How Riot Phreak Ruined His Reputation
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- Опубліковано 29 кві 2024
- Riot Phreak (David Turley) was with League of Legends from the very beginning - and was once one of the most beloved members of the League of Legends community. His iconic casting and champion spotlights are part of League of Legends history as we know it. But after retiring from casting and moving on to become a game developer, Riot Phreak's reputation with the community has tanked to say the least. THIS is how Riot Phreak Ruined His Reputation With the League of Legends community.
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being a very condescending jerk really makes it easy to hate him
The truth just comes out that way love Phreak
and a terrible dev
@@yatoyoboku Except its not always the truth and he often ignores context to make disingenuous statements
@@yatoyoboku yeah nah i get that to a point but hes just an out of touch egoist
He's been like that since the Warcraft 3 days.
Prob wouldn't get half the hate if he wasn't a smug douche about balance even when he is clearly wrong. He gets too caught up on spreadsheet stats over how things actually feel in the actual game. That and abusing internal stats to personally climb is kinda a bad look.
Which is incredible given the riot team used to say "we don't use win rate to balance' then Phreak comes in. Man, I can't imagine why Azir has a low winrate....
He’s fully aware that a specific champs and roles are broken and he takes full advantage of it because he’s in the balance team.
He was spamming maokai support a few months back when the role is extremely broken and maokai is one of the most broken champs in the game
yes he would absolutely get as much hate if he just ignored everything
@@toragic3432 so like literally every other person
that would mean he would've always have to play the most dogshit champ in existence
@@toragic3432 that's what I meant by abusing internal stats to personally climb. That and it took how many nerfs did it take to actually nerf mao in a meaningful way? 3, 4 nerfs. Surely if your abusing it over many games and know how to balance things you should be able to nerf that champ correctly in 1 patch. That doesn't happen and then to act smug over it and act like players don't understand the game on top of it is what I think soured a lot of people on phreak.
The problem is the way Phreak communicates with the community. He can never be wrong and his way is always the "right" way. The inverse, TFTs balance head is mostly loved as he actively communicates with the community and usually apologizes and takes the full blame when something goes completely wrong.
Funny that you say that. In the Previwe for 14.11 He said he sad he was 6 Months wrong about ksante
@@Kugelschreibaer8 He made me eat my words. He's grown as a designer and a public figurehead and that makes me pretty happy
lol probably because fuck league players. Never really met a nice person playing the game since 2012
league is a hard game. Balancing it is a very daunting task. You will make mistakes. But if you put yourself up on a pedestal and say im right, everyone who says otherwise is stupid, is a sure-fire way to be hated by everyone. Not all the hate is deserved, but he did a good job at siphoning it onto himself.
It's not hard. When it comes to unwanted champs ( mostly jg champs) riots go above and beyond to make sure those champs stay in a weak or barely playable state. By that I mean "they fulfill their jg role by ganking ans taking objectives but is hardto be relevant for the team even when ahead, and if you fall behind, then its game over"
Riot has done this ocer the years but when Phreak took over, they went waaaaay overboard. Also they tend to not nerfs champions they like like the Yasuo. For example, when immortal shieldbow was nerfed/changed, Riot went and buffed the yasuos in compensation 😂. Do you see that with other champs? No. Other champs get nerfed and their item as well.
@@Yokai_Yuri ok genius, if it is so easy then submit your patch 14.10 preview. Not only do you need to give the changes you want, you need to accuratly predict how much each change will impact the champs they touch.
Yh u can type karthus ult
Its only hard if you are incompetent. But there are also actual competent people in the world who would, i dont know, realize how utterly broken support was on day 1 and not even let it be on the live servers? But phreak isnt one of them, it took him 4 months to even touch the role.
@@ssbbSephi thats cause he needed play it to boost his rank before he would nerf it
"phreak needs to gp q himself"
holy shit xDD
It'll deal ton's of damage
Another good one I've heard is "Ornn E into traffic" 💀
Phreak been bald since 2009
" phreak should 0/1 irl" and "phreak should talon E off of Riot HQ"
You forgot to mention his LOVELY interactions with the community when he is verifiably lying. Like the Karthus situation recently and the old rumble debate with Dom a few years back.
i mean, he let his ego and authority go to his head. azzapp one of the best vel koz players ever made an entire list of things that were wrong with the champ, not just balance wise, but actual bugs and faulty interactions with abilities. and phreak pretty much calledhim an idiot and said he didnt know what he was talking about because he isnt on the balance team
And then after like two weeks they buffed/fixed velkoz e
@@Ykswadyeah, Azzap didnt deserved to be called an idiot in the first place but lets lick Phreaks butt.
and rn phreak telling yasuo/yone players they just dont know how to build their champ on 14.10 and that they're not weak without lethal tempo, meanwhile dzukill : yeah thats kinda shit
@@voidroad I hate Phreak as much as we all do, but on this one he's right, yone and yasou aren't weak without lethal, they're just normal. Their mains are just so braindead and used to be absolutely busted that they feel like they're weak.
It's easy to point at problems. A child can do that. Fixing them is the hard part. Fixing them without affecting anything else is impossible. Fixing them without 50% of the whiny children getting mad is impossible. As evidenced in these comments, you can fix something and people get mad at you that they're not as OP as they were before.
HE HAS NO MANAAAAAAAAAA
Hes got big riot salary doing what he loves the most
@@d0sxxgaming94 it doesn't look like he is doing what he loves most if you look at his changes on game lol
Hahahaha 😂
@@d0sxxgaming94true, I'm sure he enjoys his work judging from how he aged into 30 years in just a decade 😂
@@ColdAssailant29 not much of a difference in ageing or losing years of life by playing league of legends sitting for hours everyday, flaming their own teammates , fucking their mental health. At least he will be able to support his family unlike all those people who wasted their life on this game just to avoid life in general
Hes super self indulgent, even when met him at LCS around season 2 at there first studio he blew me off for an autograph. Kiwikid was watching and instantly came over and signed my shirt. SHOUT OUT TO KIWI
So what you’re saying is Phreak got everything he deserved? Mostly.
@@Lawlers it’s a result of circumstance, but he’s always had an ego and that hasn’t helped
@@what241354646 yeah to be too good to sign a fans shirt, ya know one of the many people who pay your salary, on SEASON 2 is wiiiilld. How big a head he must’ve had.
@what241354646 I'm gonna assume "blew off" is something you have evidence was out of ego or spite? I hate when people go out of their way to mention that people didn't live up to their expectations in such a vague way. It's borderline joining a witch hunt once there's a bandwagon.
@@sky_pirate I didn’t really go out of my way, it’s relevant. I’ve had a dislike for him since s2 which has compounded with his attitude while being on the balance team, the comment section is for use and it’s user moderated if my story was so baseless and vague ( which referenced exactly when it happened and where) I can retell the story to you if that’s going to give you some closure. I even still have the signed tee shirt; which has krepo, Vasili, kiwi kid, voyboy, amazing, xpecial signatures. I even saw prolly having a dart with some coaches which was cool in a humanising way. Maybe you should just carry less hate and realise that some people leave the house instead of circle jerk reddit :)
There are multiple things that happen with Riotlers in the Balancing team that is to obvious. Once a Riot games dev got destroyed by a Pyke mid (pyke mid was very bad at the time but this dude was a one trick) and next patch Pyke gets hard nerfed to nearly not playable anymore. Then Riot Auberaum gets pinged by players for inting as Karthus and pings get "disabled". Phreak hits master with Maokai who was/is beyond broken for months with a 61% win rate on 110 games. Janna and Sona are also one of the highest win rate champs in game and are one of his most played + best win rate....and let's not forget where he wanted to NERF Vel koz because his "statistics" he has showed he is to strong.
Wishing someone the death or other wise is not right but him ignoring every critic and being arrogant didnt help at all.
Not only those champions, but also the support item itself and all its upgraded versions were beyond broken, the extremely efficient and cheap other items like frozen heart for what was is, 2100? that let every support 1v1 the adc with ease while also making them unkllable. The nerfs to jungle so that poor phreak coudnt easily die to ganks anymore. i thought support was inflated and broken before season 14 came out and he buffed it, kept abusing it for months, let players suffer in that state for the entire season when it should have been
it should have been a hotfix on day 1. No, it shouldnt even have make it to the live servers.
The caitlyn mana regen buff was the funniest
@@ssbbSephi Yeah. There is way to much "coincident" in terms of buffs/nerfs when it affects Riotlers....Its just super annoying that somehow in every video this never is mentioned and it is always "poor phreak gets hate for nothing" blah blah...
tbf the pyke mid changes also came when pyke was played top and mid in pro play. wunder was very well known to play pyke top
@@antonioreconquistador that was a personal thing
Being a designer in ANY design field is hard. But the biggest no no is an ego and unwillingness to accept mistakes. This is one of the first things any designer learns in school… or learns the hard way in the real world. Phreak is ignoring the lesson.
Sad thing is he dosent know that because he went from being a caster, someone with very little actual knowledge on the game behind the scenes, straight to designer/balance team.
This was always going to be a disaster because he simply lacks MEANINGFUL experience, but has the ego of a 30 year designer.
Pretty much all billionaire companies today haven't learned this lesson. They learned the opposite: Get rich off of the hard work of good developers, then turn on radio silence and think of all of your players as drooling mouthbreathers and that you're never wrong.
Fortnite does this, League of Legends does this, Gacha devs do this, too.
His "i dont get to decide what gets buffed or not" phrase back in patch 13.10 doesnt apply anymore. Since hes the head of balance team, he has already stated in some patch breakdown that every change goes through him, and he effectively chooses what to PASS and what to NOT pass, so in a way he DOES decide what changes the game gets (or at least MOST of them).
Big UP on this comment
10:08 miss information: he straight up got spam pinged by a karthus for inting and literally 2 days later removes spam pinging
that was Riot Auberaum, not phreak
@@CollectorVXwell you can't make it too obvious no?
He also hit Master with maokai...one of the jnglers that was the strongest for months and never got nerfed somehow....
first of all, that wasn't phreak. Second of all, god forbid a game dev actually plays their game, sees something bad and then reacts to it. You do realize it would WORSE if the change happened without any Rioter having personally experienced it, right? It is a good thing that Rioters play the game they work on.
@@leahx4552 I thought he played him support...
6:39 Why do all lying public figures act the same way when called out.
"Nuh uh"
they think they're smarter than everyone else
I really love the parallel between Phreak saying "you can type is not that hard" and the old Phreak in a spotlight, talking about "We added pings for a dynamic gameplay". This man only cares about what he thinks, and even saying OUT LOUD "This change is a PERSONAL touch of mine" on Seraphines R nerfs, i know the champ is broken but what kind of BALANCE LEADER CHOOSES SOMETHING BASED ON PERSONAL OPNION!!! ITS A COMPETITIVE GAME!!
real :3
im still waiting for hecarim buffs
he says a personal touch meaning he was in charge not having a personal reason
@@ElderwoodHecarim-kw2wt You had your few months of OP-ness.
As a Seraphine player, I absolutely hated the changes, besides the small QoL on her Q missile speed. - Not support, but midlane, where she was initially designed to be.
Phreak absolutely shat all over my favorite champ to play, by nerfing the R damage, the passive damage, and made Q harder to last-hit minions with. The balance team didn't even factor in the damage nerfs in ARAM mode either, so Seraphine is absolute dogwater to play there, at least in her intended way. - Not to mention the removal of Night Harvester, which was a great item on her. - Changes like these takes a way the dynamic way of playing champions in different roles. So what if she was good in botlane with another support, there are other ways to balance that lane (like making ADC's actually useful again), without taking away a champ's ability to be a flexible pick in multiple roles. Plus, at the time of her drastic nerfs, she was the best counterpick into Jinx, who was incredibly oppressive with her passive stacking. A good Seraphine could easily shut her down.
That's not what personal touch means
"You either die a hero, or live long enough to see yourself become the villain."
Hey alexa
Play unravel
More like "When you don't speak about things you don't know you can appear as an hero but when you show your incompetence and arrogance non stop you suddenly are the villain"
Was never hero just toxic jerk
that ''dearest karthus'' was his end lmao
Is this the same dude who said Vel'koz wasnt in a bad spot, when he had the biggest low in history?
Then looked at his stats and immediately back steped
"Oh...oh! Maybe he is bad, ok he definately needs buffs"
-phreak
@@shaddoww1136 No you have it mixed up. Phreak did say Vel'koz isn't bad, but the person you're thinking of is Riot August. Someone is his chat said Vel'koz is bad and should be buffed, he said "no he's not", then checked and was like, "oh shit i was wrong we NEED to buff this champion immediately". His was respectable because he actually checked and immediatley admitted his mistake and apologized without making any excuses. Whereas Phreak basically said rhe entire Vel'koz community doesnt understand their champ and never went back on that...
@@dresean3725 oh OK thank you for the clarification
It's not even about the lows, it's about not making any quality of life changes and not fixing bugs
@@shaddoww1136phreak defenders remember something that never even happened lmao
Phreak is the head of balance, he is responsible even if he had no direct involvement in the particular change. If his teams fails, then its his fault for letting them ruin the game or not firing them just because they are his friends.
Thats what i am saying sending death threats stretch too far but his job is to balance and if it is not accept your mistake and dont be an asshole
Nope, nope, nope. That guy totally deserves every bit of hate he receives. I fully supported Phreak back when he was a caster, but now his ego is unbearable. It's not a question he knows the game, but that doesn't mean he knows how to make it balanced or fun. And it's blatantly obvious he is making some changes to support HIS champions. Plus, his inability to not only accept the fact he screwed up but blame the community for being idiots by not seeing his supposed data is just icing on this ugly cake.
get this comment higher
12:12 - "You can never please everyone", but you can indeed upset everyone
"You are wrong and if you disagree you are clearly wrong and stupid"
-Phreak probably.
It's his condescending attitude and his clear lack of high elo game knowledge that makes him unfit to be in his position
And you’re d1/master?
@@GG-hi5if higher
@@angelfury8182 opgg cheers
80 iq hardcap. The majority of game devs have never and will never be in the .1% of their game. Being uneducated and publicly speaking should be a crime.
So you need to be the best tennis player to make rules for tennis or the MVP in NBA to make rules for NBA?
Remember 1 thing,mao supp jg sat at 56%wr for 2months unnerfed,and when they did he still was at 54 so yea,where s the 50-50 rule when we are talking about his champ pool
"People didn't like the new Phreak." He's always been like this. He just has the power to do something with it now. Or did people forget the really bad takes he'd have on stream?
His diamond climb with jungle and support was after getting to diamond with twitch adc.
twitch been op 3 seasons tho anyways. i say this as a twitch player lol hes still half a step above every other adc even afterthe nerfs hes getting
Phreak is usually being the freak of balance changes
The sad thing is, Phreak can use his voice to actually bring legitimate changes. But what happened is that he got drunk in it and just started to make these mistakes in the patch changes. Another thing is how he replied to the concerns, where he is not really thinking of the point raised by the player base. It's sad to see the voice of League, to actually be this person now...
Your dumb,you know why, because phreak is 1 person, these patches are worked on by at least 20 people. He just coordiantes it to get it done , thats what being head of anything is, knowing everyone and knowing who can get the fucking job done. His not making up all the changes! Lmao his got a list of changes already that needs to happen and as the head , you dont use your hands you use your head! Like in find the fucking people that will get the job done and make sure it is done by the time the big boss neeeds it done. Phreak the man to get it done thats why hes where his at.
I quit then come back to play league. I’ve been doing the same thing for 13 years now. One thing I learned is that league will always be toxic and you will never please this community. But I will say if the toxicity starts with the developers, that’s a clear red flag. I just want ADC to be more of a game changer especially on the early-mid game phase.
That’s why I stopped playing aswell, adc hasn’t been good since s3
the definition of ADC is to be a late game carry.
you farm up in early and become stronger then everyone late - thats the tradeoff.
Making them strong in early mid AND late - sure lets make botlane a solo lane and give them even more power ... jesus
Bot lane is a large decider of a match rn.
Maokai used to be very op for many patchs and he didn't get nerfed, janna has beeen op for ages still not nerfed.Any other champion in a similar state would get insta hotfixed but this guy shamelessly doesn't want to nerf champions he play
maokai i get how he can easily be nerfed to a okay state but how the fuck do you even nerf janna
@@someguyontheinternet1093 longer cds lol - its not that hard
@@better_mindset17 and the fuck does that do exactly? she already has pretty decently high CD for what are pitiably tiny stat boost spells and she's still gonna be a roaming bastard with the ability to out rotate everyone.
okay you nerf her cd. guess what, thats not what makes her strong anyways
so again, atleast try a little. how the fuck do you nerf her
let me also mention that Phreak was abusing Support to climb to grandmaster when he was hardstuck dia for all his life. Support, which was a broken role with broken items and broken champs, got hard buffed with season 14 and he kept abusing champs like seraphine, maokai, janna must have known how broken they were and refused to nerf them for at least 3 months into the season with janna finaly receiving her first nerf after 4 months, close to the end of the split. Players had to suffer for over 4 MONTHS with this. thats INSANE
Keep in mind that they nerfed 47% winrate nidalee 4 patches earlier than his 57% winrate otp support maokai, I have genuinely no clue as to how this guy still gets to work in this industry
We could say he is using his role to his own benefit. He doesn't think MACRO (to us, players), but MICRO (to him and himself only).
It is hard to believe, but putting all things togather, it does make sense.
If support is so broken then I should be able to climb from bronze to diamond, but I can’t and I main support and I play most of the support champions, I build different types AP mixed with healing, I main sera sona and Morgana aka 3 broken ass champions and yet you wanna say he’s exploiting shit when even support players in lower ranks can do the same shit and not move a single inch in competitive.
@@GothyG sera and Morgana are absolutely carburo dogshit champs, and Sona is only useful if you play with a human, so definitely not in bronze
@@GothyG Keep in mind that Phreak has a Riot account, so he was probably always on smurfQ playing with people that have at 3 neurons active and good hands, the other normal players are playing on pisslow mmr with stupid ppl, feeders, toxics etc
Mortdog is to TFT what Phreak was to LoL. Sad to see Phreak tank like this, given the passion that he showed in the early years.
I was an old follower of his channel, and watch him grow more ego throughout the years, and become obsess and cocky with his numbers, does not take feedbacks but only arguments with his percentage and spreadsheets
riot balance team is like ''neverending story''.
Despite phreak's dumb decisions, its nothing new to balance things in wrong way- nerf kassadin dmg with -5 move speed or like ''hey, karma deals too much dmg, time to buff her shield and make her more support than ap''... or even make rell jungle and remove after because riot didnt like that..
maybe hes hated for a reason, but i rather think its riot itself, and phreak is a part of it... the guy in wrong place.. i believe.. right?
Still don't know why they removed Rell jgl. I absolutely loved it. Yet, after a while, it was a rare pick - at least, in Emerald elo. Can't say for other elos.
@@nero.blackstar i rarely play rell, im not even jungler, but still jungle rell is more interesting pick than every yi, ww or forrest gump aka udyr imo.
And riot did that because why not, they can.
@@saimur2126 Most of these changes were to serve the proplay scene most than the average soloq/normal game, still dumb af but what can you do/say.
@@saimur2126 Yeah, exactly. Jungle Rell is interesting and unique. It helps make the jungle a bit more open with variety. Yet, the fact that they butchered Rell jungle for no reason upsets me.
@@nero.blackstar it shoudnt have existed in the first place
You didn't mention the buffs to his champions and nerfs to the counters to his champions
Oh no, i know the ping shit grew on Riot Auberaums pile and he shall be shunned forever. Implements ping mute, doesn't use it himself when he gets pinged and instead removes the ability to ping, 10/10 game design I didnt want to communicate in a moba anyways. But how Phreak got stomped by some random karthus then immediately nerfed karthus is still funny. Him flaming T1 is just sad tho.
Ah, the chat and ping "abuse" is one of the things I will never understand from a company viewpoint. If I was RIOT-er, I would make a short video presentation of how EASY it is to combat chat toxicity and ping abuse with simple built in button and it would be unskippable video you will have to watch when you open client. But no, I will get permabanned for calling a run it down mid support "autistic", while he will go 0/7 in first few minutes and won't get any punishment.
@@vanjamenadzer But they don't want to combat toxicity. They want to show you how many people got banned for toxicity and how that makes League "moroe approachable to it's players". Realistically there should be no bans for typing shit in chat, why? Because you can just write /muteall. But nobody's gonna do that because they'd rather cry and moan about it instead of ACTUALLY creating the safe space they want, aka muting toxic people.
The nail in the coffin for me was when they took out the ability to ping teammates. Haven’t played the game since.
The fact that Riot actually thought it was a good idea to promote this guy to the head of the balance team is absolutely mind boggling.
Dearest Karthus,
I hope this finds you well. We seem to have found ourselves in a dire situation at the bottom lane. Please consider casting your ultimate ability to assist us as i do believe Lee sin has come to dive our tower.
Sincerely, Your bottom lane
The main moment I lost my respect for him was when he openly admitted that both the balance team and the pro players said that the change he wanted to make was bad he still went through with the change. Basically saying no, you pro players and my balance team don't know anything. This will solve the problem, which was around the Maokai being OP for a couple of patches while him having a 61% winrate and finally reached masters which when you look at his stats he would never gotten without him abusing the champ he kept OP for so many patches.
There's a principle in business that says people don't know what they want until they're told - because even if you get positive feedback, words are just that. We would not have the Nintendo Switch, the most respected gaming console in generations, if Nintendo listened to player feedback. Motion controls, touch screens, low processing power, tablet controller, these features all received scathing reviews in past hardware. Yet Nintendo persisted.
@@sky_pirate wrong comparison. Nintendo is one of the oldest giants of the gaming industry. their vision is not to be ignored easily. They also had fck ups and learned from them.
in this case, Phreak came to the balance team from a player and caster background. his expertise is rightfully questioned, and he refuses to acknowledge his mistakes even when he's CLEARLY wrong about something. even after stats (his favorite metric to measure his performance) show he's wrong, he still puts his foot down and double down on his mistakes.
people don't hate him because he's bad at his job. we hate him because he looks down on everyone and claims that he knows better ALWAYS, just because he's the balance lead. people tend to hate egotistical jerks, that's all.
@@mformotivation9152 I was pointing out that you wrongfully described the moment you lost respect for him. People often ignore good sense for a reason. You learned his reason, thus losing respect for him. Not for ignoring good sense.
he really should have stayed a caster, he truly excelled at it. Seems to be a better fit for him as a person as well, especially compared to his current role
Think we should make an annual effort to send him new creative ''league compliments'' like ''Ornn E into incoming traffic'', make it an official day.
Phreak attacking player base sure didnt help his case
Edit:
Phreak is at Balance team's lead and he is the person where most changes gets APROVED by him in the end
He might not be involved in most decisions but he sure "stamps" them out
Bro, there is no way to defend Phreak after the Velkoz incident.
Also, the "you can type karthus ult" is the most outrageous Dev argument ever since "do you guys not have phones" back in Blizzcon 2018.
Honestly when Maokai was sitting at 56% win rate and his entire play log was just him spamming him Jng, that was more than enough to point the finger at it for playing favorites
professional videos, you deserve more attention, keep it up !
this time i have actually researched and wish to ask of you to make a documentry vid on ThePeacePigeon, Trinimortal and UberDanger (please!)
Also the one on gripex was sooo good but sad at the same time
man I still remember his personal vendetta against tyler1
"Freak wasnt directly behind the ping changes so the hate didnt make sense" *shows clip of him defending ping changes and telling people to type karthus ult*
Let’s not talk about the time he hit gm abusing maokai while refusing to nerf it for months
Abusing champions you know is too powerful while in the position to balance said champions is extremely scummy. Even if he was not personally involved in their balance, he should know that it looks terrible.
Even if hes not directly involved hes still the head now.
The decisions go through him and he ultimately has the final say. So its very, very likely hes been involved in those scummy changes. Even if it was just approving them, despite knowing they are to strong.
So he should intentionally play weaker champs purely because he's in the lead of balance? Lmao
Phreak had the legendary statement: "Pings are not relevant if you want your karthus to ult you can type karthus r pls"
edit i just saw it made it into the video xD
He was a hard stuck adc main. Stuck in Diamond 4 and 5 when that was still a thing. He switched to support and then ignored the adc role. Adc players asked for 25% crit chance back. But of course that’s ignored.
Nerfing Jungle even further making it so junglers won’t even bother farming their jungle camps anymore. Why bother when laner exp is just better.
yeah i dont know how phreak defends "using jungle to climb" as well. hes been negative wr on nearly every single jungler (if he even plays jungle) and hasnt really mained jungle in almost 4 years.
Well now he brought back 25% crit chance, but also removed something...
Phreak was starting to ruin his reputation way before retiring from casting BTW
I wonder what the next Shaco nerf is going to be.
Phreak's my hero. I've never seen so many pissed off league players.
when i saw phreak in someones stream playing league the first thing i thought of was he must know some easter eggs for all the champions
just play what he plays then you know the meta, also funny everytime he gets stomped by a certain champion it immedietly gets nerfed. He abusing his power for his own solo queue
After not playing for months, and uninstalling today, I’m sad to see how things have been turning out.
Does Phreak have a Dugtrio and other pokemon card on display in his home in some of those clips?
no thats just phreaks head
“You can type karthas ult in chat”
That’s crazy bro if only there was a way to automate that process in a game where seconds matter. Crazyyyyyyyy bro
I think you meant to say "synonymous" at 8:05, not "synomynous" xD
I had to listen to it again to make sure I heard correctly haha
Btw, I found your channel like 2 days ago and have already watched most of your content, so great job and keep it up!
i just quit the game at this point this is the second month of me without playing
the game never felt the same after 12.10 and my main champ just got fucked because of those changes
i tried playing a week ago but had problems with vanguard then I just uninstalled this shit of a game
Phreak is a good example for the Peter-principle at work.
I loved phreak. Wonder where he went. His champion breakdowns were cool
I thought it was the T1 incident
I wouldn't say Phreak was fan Favorite there are numerous Riot Employees who were far more favorite than Phreak . Like Nikasaur , Quickshot , Sjokz , Joe Miller even Montecristo
He was recognizable and very publicly active... Maybe he was Tencent's favorite but that's about it.
You know what i recognized? The old Phreak laughed alot more and alot brighter than the new one. The old Phreak had fun playing and balancing league while the new one only trys to do it best and totally forgot why he wanted to be in the balancing team in the first place; So everyone can have fun with the game. At least thats how i view it ^^
By biggest complain about Freak has only and always been how he's insuferable as a caster yet constantly got to cast every single big game
Honestly, sounds like he should take some leadership courses. I love phreaks outstanding game casting its nostalgic and a ton of fun to listen to. All this said, I like how he is taking ownership of all the things our community doesn't like, but the dude needs to be able to effectively and more efficiently communicate the reasons of the changes without being a complete "jerk". I love Phreak and want to see his success, but if he really wants to lead this developer team to succeed, he needs to listen to some of the community feedback. As a leader you are the one to take the brunt of the damage, but if you create something people love, you are seen as a hero that anyone will follow into battle. Good luck my man. I hope you succeed.
About fucking time they made a change to pings. Used piss me off so much, when person in the game would just ping one of my teammate non-stop for like the hold game.
Having dev'd for a much smaller game, I have first hand experience of players writing essays, drawing schizo associations / correlations/ conspiracy theories and overanlysing everything as if they are philosophers. There are literally billions of interactions that devs won't be able to account for until the game goes live - no matter what PBE results show. That's the sad reality and what explains most of the players' complaints. You will simply never be able to make everyone happy - let alone literal addicts of all ages and backgrounds who have made League their life. Engaging with the community as a dev is a lose-lose situation because EVERYTHING will be used against you - unless you are 100% calculated and super mysterious and distant. The more you let players know you, the worse for you.
I’m a dev as well and I see your point. He really is a prick though. Also, how can they simply not get the game to balance after 14 years?
@@Delouser69 yea tbh I never was a fan of phreak either but wanted to keep my comment about the dev aspect. as for balancing the game, I think it is a bit of a meme because their priority has always been selling skins and stuff, which they achieve by intentionally nerfing and buffing things
@@Delouser69 they could if they never added new stuff... And even things being a bit unbalanced and fresh is better than sorted out and stale.
btw, the problem is him doing balance changes on his or "specific players" sentiments. Not him using hard statistics.
like his sentiment, player sentiment is easily dependant on losing games to x "and feeling it's strange".
the typing of karthus r is the thing that really hit me the wrong way, i play league without chat on whenever i am really tryharding because pings are good enough to get your point across, but now that i cant ping anyones r's or death timers my ability to play around my team is much harder
Never forget this man built thornmail and morello on Singed
* odd changes all around
* awful takes on said changes
* egocentric comments towards the backlash
* continues dickish attitude
* doesn't take any contsbility on his attitude.
"Why are you all so toxic? Not engaging on socials anymore"
Hypocrite.
realest comment ive ever seen
The only thing that pissed me off from phreak was that he used gold+ pick ban rates to explain buffs or nerfs meant for pro play. So basically he equated gold players to literal top of challenger players and acted like this statistical analysis was sound.
This video could have been so much better if you had just asked Rhaastie, a lot of missing info
Becoming a game designer is already rough when it seems like your experience is limited, but then being the face of it. Is crazy rough, but then holding your finger up saying "Uhm actually you're wrong" is the true recipe for disaster.
The game is historically toxic and everyone historically flames the balance changes, but giving the players a face that's telling them their wrong is just, man... He should've followed Jeff Kaplan's Lead...
He could dish the heat but couldnt take it
how xchinnin vanished NEXT.
Omg my favorite French Asian youtuber. All I know the guy got tired of making English videos and went to French UA-cam.
Recently rewatched some of his old vids and man while the jokes definitely aged i still love it.
I haven't played league since before Phreak went to the balance team, but the player toxicity is one of the primary reasons I left.
It really is a community of people who put their pants on one head at a time.
One thing you forget is how he was the HEAD of balance. The way pipeline works in this is that - ultimately - at the end of the day, all the changes have to go through and be approved by him. At least that's how it is in standard studios.
Pair that with condescending and holier-than-thou attitude, abusing the meta to give the illusion of him being knowledgeable at the game, and refusing to admit mistakes for months on end and you have the literal reason why he was targeted.
I don't follow that closely, but I have always enjoyed Phreak as a caster. I suspect a small, insular part of the community dislikes him, and this is blown out of proportion.
He had it all and then decided to become the head of the balancing team… in one of the most toxic games with one of the most toxic communities there is. Balancing this game has been a nightmare since its release and no sane person with a healthy public reputation should ever want this job and jeopardize it all.
"You can type by the way..." is Phreak in a nutshell, no?
People who send threats of any kind to any person are really human trash and should be disallowed from entering the Internet at all in my opinion. Because clearly each and everyone of them dont have the maturity to participate in the Internet.
Death threats and harm wishing are absolutely not acceptable. And regarding Phreak, i would really wish for him to stay as a commentator and the champ spotlight guy. He was really good at those jobs.
This video is mostly defending phreak, but he defends every decision, even if he doesn't directly make them. Most of the changes to league in the last 6-7 years have been bad, the riot team doesn't know what they are doing and phreak is a part of that.
I remember i used to play in games with him in my lobby back in Season 1 and 2. He was always a jerk. No one would ever notice from his casting and videos tho of course. At the same time, all of these people complaining about balance changes are being stupid. Obviously, all the patch changes are not reliant on one person making the final call.
i think he is a showcase for what happens if people do their job well and then get promoted away from what they can do well into a position they are obviously not cut out for suffering in the process.
Early on when Phreak joined the balance team I cheered for him, he seemed like a good guy who landed his dream job so why would I be upset about that? Then as changes were coming in and people started to blame him specifically I made sure to never fall in that camp, it simply didn't make any logical sense to blame him and screamed of emotionally changed ranting more so then actual valid criticism, so I stayed positive and kept sight of reality, even if Phreak was involved with some changes he wasn't the guy making the main decisions, and even when he did come to being in charge I tried to stay positive about that too, not every change was bad and with each blunder some good happened as well, same as always and nothing new was happening, yet, but just as it had always been and as mentioned not every change was good, and then Phreak started to become more aggressive about it all, suddenly it wasn't a balancing act and he was a god, nothing he touched could be wrong and you were a moron for even thinking of questioning it, and if you ever did then you were basically just as bad as the fuckwads throwing death threats at him, now we're firmly in a meta where ADCs rule the rift, so much so the last pro tournament often used strats that would put anyone else behind just to get the ADCs as many advantages as possible, while ADCs even continued to be present in every single role except for jungle as actual meta picks, and somehow we're NOT supposed to draw conclusions that Phreak is now directing his team to balance for ADCs (the most popular role with the champs that have the most skins and make Riot the most money, I don't think it's cause he used to main ADCs, it's cause it's where the money is, but it's still obvious) and we're all assholes who resort to death threats for voicing these rather fucking obvious concerns.......
I really tried to stay on Phreak's side, but he made it impossible to do so, even if I agreed with him on some stuff early on I'd still see him bitch about people disagreeing with him and it just annoyed me to see such pettiness and I grew to just generally dislike him for his new personality, and yeah anyone else wouldn't have received as much direct vitriol cause as you mentioned he's a known entity when normally the person who fills that role is not, but the SAME concerns would have been levied by the SAME people at the SAME times, cause these are actual valid concerns most of the playerbase have pertaining to balance and not only is everyone being ignored, it's continuing in the same fucking direction as the man in charge yells behind at everyone he's running over that it's our faults for being annoyed that we just got ran over from out of nowhere and we're stupid for not agreeing with him about EVERYTHING he forces on us.
I stopped playing LoL regularly for many reasons, but the current balance of the game is certainly one of them. I'm not like the other addicts who'll bitch but play anyway, I have better shit to do and I'm doing them now, and I don't think I'm alone in that. Catering to ADCs might help monetarily in the short term, keeping the largest role-specific portion of their playerbase as happy as you can possibly keep those particularly toxic players is a "solid" move to keep them playing, but as you ignore everyone else or even punish them your playerbase as a whole will continue to shrink and soon enough ADC mains are gonna have much longer queue times then everyone else. Sure less people to complain as ADCs continue to get all the highest quality and most unique skins, but even they will start to leave if they have so few other people to play with. I know a company like RIot is just writing everyone off atm for that immediate cash flow and just plans to "redirect" later to keep the less important wallets around, but not everyone who plays or wants to play your games is addicted, blind, or ambivalent enough to stick it out.
love the video! hope you do one on SolWolf (Break The Meta) vids
The maokai thing was really weird, he abused it so hard and the nerfs were so minor they almost didnt matter, the champ got nerfed 3 or 4 times in a row xD
Phreak in my eyes in neither.
Phreak was an oppourtunity to be a unique spokesperson to us, the community.
But wasted it with going coorperate, not really giving us the feedback we wished we should've gotten nor taking the feedback with him inside..
after all, he was already their face, now he was an actual developer and then head of balance.
He COULD quite literally be the voice, the spokesperson and a much clearer picture to how things is, how it was, and how it could become with a person that already was so interconnected with all sides, as a gamer, a caster and now a head of the balance teams.
This could've been "THE Position" to make Riot and League of Legends something unique in a new way, a radical change that could've propelled how the gaming world operate..
but instead.. he did the same old same old as before, but with more insights and.. never really let anything out nor let anything in.
He never took it upon himself of being the thing that could unite the company and gamers, instead he went team company and basically said "fuck you and your concerns, fuck the future, fuck being unique, I have joined them and will help them continue doing things as it has been"
Power shows you trueself
through ALL the people associated with league, I would have never in a billion years imagined that phreak of all people was their mascot. Lux is then it's T1.
I think the real turning point when people started to hate Phreak was during MSI when rumble jungle was broken. He went on stream saying it was bad as a jungler even tho it was basically the best jungler in the game at the time. Then justified his argument with MSI data saying it wasnt even 50% win rate while removing the wins the pick had with the best team at MSI saying they were just gonna win anyway regardless of rumble. Of course community lost their shit on this especially cuz everyone wanted the champ nerfed. And he was adamant he was right but next patch they nerfed rumble jungle and Phreak never admitted he was wrong.
Ill never forget modding my LoL screen for a Phrek dancing to Britney.
1:32 holy the memories lmao.. my full atk spd build for yasuo xD
I think you could branch out onto other topics/games or whatever if you run out with League. Your videos are really well put together as is your narration.
Let's not forget the 3 months during which Maokai was overbusted and, would you look at that, Phreak was OTP'ing him. Maokai finally got nerfed after Phreak got grandmaster, what a coincidence.