Murder victim’s father speaks out after Nottingham appeal rejection

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  • The families of the victims of the Nottingham attacks on Tuesday hit out at the “utterly flawed and under-resourced” criminal justice system after judges rejected an appeal over the triple killer’s sentence.
    The Court of Appeal concluded that there was “no error” when Valdo Calocane, 32, was given an indefinite hospital order instead of a prison sentence because he was in the “grips of a severe psychotic episode” during his killing spree on June 13 last year. Calocane’s sentence for manslaughter by reason of diminished responsibility has been upheld by the judges.
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  • @gordonmckenzie926
    @gordonmckenzie926 21 день тому +103

    Once again, the justice system is on the rights of the criminal, rather than the victims. Truly sickening.

    • @jungleboy1
      @jungleboy1 20 днів тому +1

      it always is. Its getting worse now.

  • @abbieroseholden4174
    @abbieroseholden4174 21 день тому +67

    I am on the parents side on this and the rest of the victims families he is a stone cold murderer and should be in prison until the day he dies simple as

    • @Yes_587
      @Yes_587 21 день тому +5

      A psychiatric hospital is very much like a prison, in fact it is much worse. He is not having a good time in there.

    • @patrickkirwan3353
      @patrickkirwan3353 21 день тому +1

      ​@@Yes_587Happy days.

    • @abbieroseholden4174
      @abbieroseholden4174 20 днів тому

      @@Yes_587 but he should be locked up until the day he dies. He killed 3 people without a shred of remorse he's just evil

  • @Jojohumf
    @Jojohumf 21 день тому +48

    So he murdered somebody but won’t face the charge, regardless of mental state he should have been charged with murder.

    • @AdamtheEnglishViking
      @AdamtheEnglishViking 21 день тому +2

      If only it worked that way. Heartbreaking actually.

    • @se20se20
      @se20se20 21 день тому +3

      Whats the point of prison in the first place? You want to punish someone for something they wouldn't of done had the been in their right mind. That just doesn't follow!

  • @aeriumfour6096
    @aeriumfour6096 21 день тому +23

    Mercy to the guilty is cruelty to the innocent

    • @susanplatt5331
      @susanplatt5331 21 день тому

      Do you know what it's like in a mental hospital? Do you know what it's like in a mental prison?

    • @azillliasmith2734
      @azillliasmith2734 21 день тому +3

      @@susanplatt5331are you in one ? .....

    • @aoc092
      @aoc092 21 день тому

      @@susanplatt5331 Isn't there a difference between both? A mental hospital would allow more privileges, e.g. family support & visitations, living conditions, etc.

  • @thetrophysystem3697
    @thetrophysystem3697 21 день тому +18

    Country an absolute pathetic embarrasment once again.

  • @dianeirvine7624
    @dianeirvine7624 21 день тому +18

    Where’s the deterrent? , no wonder knife crime is out of control

    • @agnescraig2912
      @agnescraig2912 21 день тому +2

      Yes because the Establishment and civil servants have robustly refrained from naming nationalities based on crimes as a Right to Information.

    • @azillliasmith2734
      @azillliasmith2734 21 день тому +1

      @@agnescraig2912you can not even find out the birth rates of "different" groups there are no official statistics..... not that we need them it's obvious to see....

  • @darrenbrassington7364
    @darrenbrassington7364 21 день тому +22

    The justice system is broken

  • @TheWESTSIDE1967
    @TheWESTSIDE1967 21 день тому +26

    The only Law in UK is take into your own hands unfortunately

    • @techtinkerin
      @techtinkerin 21 день тому

      Yep and by doing that you'll likely end up in jail yourself

    • @Ontgo-dt9fc
      @Ontgo-dt9fc 21 день тому +7

      I second this. I don't trust the police to do the right thing

    • @peterthornton8520
      @peterthornton8520 21 день тому +1

      A TRUE WORD SPOKEN WITH FEELING.

    • @TheWESTSIDE1967
      @TheWESTSIDE1967 21 день тому

      @@techtinkerin be worth it

  • @michaelcoles7588
    @michaelcoles7588 21 день тому +22

    My deepest condolences on the loss of your daughter if people had done there jobs the young people and older gentleman would still be here, losing a child is deeply devastating and the poor parents lives will never be the same

  • @darkblondewatch8652
    @darkblondewatch8652 21 день тому +19

    They should have known howl bad his mental health was before they releaed him from the mental hospital.

    • @agnescraig2912
      @agnescraig2912 21 день тому

      But it is exaggerated by the highly learned Psychiatrist and endorsed by the police social workers and all his defence team.

  • @mivanp2185
    @mivanp2185 21 день тому +29

    Disgusting what this country is doing to the families of ancestors that have funded and served this country for centuries. I for one disgusted by what is going on.

  • @clairemartin922
    @clairemartin922 21 день тому +31

    This country has been destroyed by years of funding cuts to services. Services are poorly run and this is the outcome. Welome to broken britain😢 my heart bleeds for her parents 💔

    • @archiem1115
      @archiem1115 21 день тому +6

      Nothing to do with budget cuts. Purely down to the overprioritisation of mental health rehabilitation with no consideration of public safety.

    • @steptay
      @steptay 21 день тому +2

      This country has been destroyed by years of liberalism of the justice system infested with diversity & inclusion coming before the ability to actually do your job properly.

    • @susanplatt5331
      @susanplatt5331 21 день тому +1

      ​@archiem1115 had the service's not been cut, they would have prioritised taking proper care of this man and he wouldn't have been out of hospital, unmedicated. Those victims would still be alive if tories hadn't cut service's. Mental illness should be prioritised, so people don't get hurt. Your stance is very ignorant and unhelpful.

    • @archiem1115
      @archiem1115 21 день тому +3

      @susanplatt5331 Laughable. Absolutely laughable. What would more funding have provided? This gentleman had NHS medication that was paid and provided for him, he refused to follow his schedules. What are you considering "proper care?" 24 hour supervision and forced medication? If so, they probably should've just arrested him on the warrant he had outstanding the day he committed his atrocity.
      Your stance is laughable. Blame budget cuts for the result of lack of conviction and an overemphasis on rehabilitation of PROVEN VIOLENT INDIVIDUALS.

    • @redhotzuluwarrior
      @redhotzuluwarrior 21 день тому

      If you don’t live in London or the big cities you don’t see it so much but there are masses of genuinely crazy people wandering the streets and transport systems, completely unsupervised… I add most of them are not indigenous.

  • @gurudebariq
    @gurudebariq 21 день тому +10

    I wish no parents ever have to go through the pain these families have suffered. Parents invest every second of their life to bring their children up and the loss of children like this, I have no words to describe their pain. Wish peace and strength for the suffering families.

  • @willhall4037
    @willhall4037 21 день тому +28

    So, he should not have been out and free? As proven by his actions. How many more are out and free? Are there any that arrived since around 2015, by boat or free aircraft seat?

    • @raypurchase801
      @raypurchase801 21 день тому +12

      Shouldn't have been allowed into the UK at all.

    • @TMckenzie007
      @TMckenzie007 21 день тому +1

      And if he was white English what would u have said? Its a pointless statement the main fact of the case this guys had mental issues and shouldn't have been around the public full stop

    • @willhall4037
      @willhall4037 21 день тому +4

      @@TMckenzie007 difficult to ignore the colour of the sky when you see it every day

    • @susanplatt5331
      @susanplatt5331 21 день тому

      ​@@willhall4037colour has nothing to do with mental illness.

    • @willhall4037
      @willhall4037 21 день тому +2

      @@susanplatt5331 How many more are ...etc. I want to know, which is why I asked,
      Also, who do we hold responsible if not the government for letting this travesty occur?

  • @pywacketttrixabell6534
    @pywacketttrixabell6534 21 день тому +10

    It is disgusting he should go to prison for life

  • @ragingpagan8847
    @ragingpagan8847 21 день тому +37

    Was a hate crime

  • @Sidb26
    @Sidb26 21 день тому +13

    This is only going to get worse with a labour government

    • @techtinkerin
      @techtinkerin 21 день тому +1

      Bollshut

    • @susanplatt5331
      @susanplatt5331 21 день тому

      Nice boring deflection. Tories made the cuts that created this situation.

    • @Sidb26
      @Sidb26 21 день тому +2

      @susanplatt5331 yes and like I said labour will make it worse

    • @peterthornton8520
      @peterthornton8520 21 день тому

      Their slogan is Welcome to Britain. The country of: Free Money, Free Housing, Free Knives, Blind Law enforcement, Bent and Anti White Racist Officials. These are just a few of the benefits available

    • @terryjacob8169
      @terryjacob8169 21 день тому

      Yvette Cooper as Home Secretary in a Labour government will be an utter disaster for any semblence of a justice system in Britain.

  • @raypurchase801
    @raypurchase801 21 день тому +16

    Usual sus...
    You know the rest.

  • @lenniespider
    @lenniespider 21 день тому +9

    My heart goes out to you

  • @Rugbyman269
    @Rugbyman269 21 день тому +6

    Governments for decades have let this country down by allowing these people in . Britain is is not the the place for everyone that would like a better life just because they can come here , they need to take responsibility and make their own countries better .

    • @AdamtheEnglishViking
      @AdamtheEnglishViking 21 день тому +3

      Stop talking sense, friend. Or the thought police will nab you for being right.

    • @susanplatt5331
      @susanplatt5331 21 день тому

      His mental illness has nothing to do with the colour of his skin or where he's from. Mentally ill white British people can be dangerous if not treated properly and medicated. Bigotry isn't helpful.

    • @peterthornton8520
      @peterthornton8520 21 день тому

      They have already ruined their Own Countrys

  • @Victoria-hz3gx
    @Victoria-hz3gx 21 день тому +6

    ALWAYS THE SAME!
    ❤Our deepest condolences ❤💐🕊️🦋✊😪🏴󠁧󠁢󠁳󠁣󠁴󠁿

  • @techtinkerin
    @techtinkerin 21 день тому +6

    Cant comment because orwell tube will say im being a naughty boy

    • @evelynvanzale4757
      @evelynvanzale4757 21 день тому +2

      It seems you are, indeed, a naughty boy if you actually believe Labour will get us out of this quagmire!

    • @azillliasmith2734
      @azillliasmith2734 21 день тому +1

      @@evelynvanzale4757 exactly especially with a weak leader like Starmer who can't tell the difference between a man or a woman 😬....

    • @peterthornton8520
      @peterthornton8520 21 день тому

      FREE SPEECH??????

  • @samgraham9354
    @samgraham9354 21 день тому +4

    These poor people; feel so sorry for them. Bless them.

  • @MIGHTYRIVERS19
    @MIGHTYRIVERS19 21 день тому +4

    TERRIBLE

  • @austin_316
    @austin_316 21 день тому +9

    B1ack Privilage

    • @Cosmic-Wanderer
      @Cosmic-Wanderer 21 день тому +1

      Non-English privilege welcomes all new dingy floaters and raft riders to britain

    • @AdamtheEnglishViking
      @AdamtheEnglishViking 21 день тому +5

      With great bwack power comes no responsibility. Welcome to Ungreat Britain.

    • @azillliasmith2734
      @azillliasmith2734 21 день тому +3

      Dr who 😬 pander pander pander .......

  • @clarepartrick1066
    @clarepartrick1066 21 день тому +3

    My heart goes out to the victims families the heartache they must be going through, I do hope they get the justice that is deserved.😅

  • @donwilsmore3945
    @donwilsmore3945 21 день тому +1

    I’m surprised that we don’t have more vigilantes,because we are not getting justice for the victims….!!

  • @ravd1427
    @ravd1427 21 день тому +1

    State of "law and justice" in this country is a joke.

  • @ianglover3642
    @ianglover3642 21 день тому +2

    Can't understand why firearms Police weren't deployed!

  • @levi5073
    @levi5073 20 днів тому +1

    Is Sadiq Khan in charge of Nottingham too?

  • @REX4340
    @REX4340 21 день тому +1

    I imagine his life in a secure hospital will be quite cushy😮

  • @pasta8470
    @pasta8470 21 день тому

    Blatantly premeditated yet responsibility is deemed "diminished"... make it make sense

  • @morriganwitch
    @morriganwitch 21 день тому +1

    My deepest condolences

  • @rdunn1971
    @rdunn1971 21 день тому

    Very disapointing. I feel much less safe

  • @terryjacob8169
    @terryjacob8169 21 день тому

    Britain urgently needs a fresh Albert Pierrepoint, and politicians/judges with the backbone to regularly employ him.

  • @Mkbshg8
    @Mkbshg8 21 день тому

    Well spoken and condolences to you and family. No excuse for this.

  • @MarjorieStoker-oj8fh
    @MarjorieStoker-oj8fh 20 днів тому

    Totally understand these poor people how they will suffer for their losses of loved ones

  • @davidhenryandthemysterons3220
    @davidhenryandthemysterons3220 21 день тому

    Full benefits in hospital, eight hundred quid a month. Do seven years then convince the medical board that they have done a good job making him better, and out on the streets free to go. WTF

  • @yoshiSBX
    @yoshiSBX 21 день тому

    💔

  • @dorreenjones1348
    @dorreenjones1348 21 день тому

    What about the NHS mental health team? They have a legal duty to support anyone with mental health conditions. With the right support in the community & this was preventable. This evil monster was taking other illegal drugs, which made his mh worse. So not only the police, NHS and other professionals. The LA adult social care team have let you down. Please use all parties and go to fitness to practice.

  • @tanktutorials
    @tanktutorials 21 день тому +2

    Manchurian candidate

  • @jacquelineithell307
    @jacquelineithell307 21 день тому +8

    I feel for the Parents , but his mental health , makes him a very dangerous Person , so a secure Hospital is were the British Law deem is the safest place , you can not have someone like this roaming around a Prison, be it criminals in there , that also must be Protected, and the working staff, it’s heartbreaking l understand but , the secure Hospital is the only way

    • @sas2300
      @sas2300 21 день тому +6

      I think the issue in modern times is that too often we treat the perpetrators of the crimes as the victims who need to be cared for rather than treating them as the criminals who should face punishment. How is this person receiving help and care in a secure hospital a punishment for murdering that young woman?

    • @susanplatt5331
      @susanplatt5331 21 день тому +1

      At last, someone with basic common sense.

    • @susanplatt5331
      @susanplatt5331 21 день тому

      ​@@sas2300this person is being held for his crimes in a hospital, trained to cope and deal with his illness. He is being punished. It really isn't that difficult to understand. If he was left in a regular prison, unmedicated, as he was on the outside when he hurt those people, what do you suppose the outcome would be?!

    • @aoc092
      @aoc092 21 день тому +2

      The problem is hospitalisation is not a punishment for the murder of the victims, though I do understand your opinion.
      My question is, what happens if) when he is better, say in a few years time and a psychiatrist will seem that he is no longer a threat to society? Will he then just be released to go about his own life, or would he then serve a prison sentence that is commensurate to the crime?
      The families of the victims are serving a lifelong sentence of their own, but people often ignore that. UK laws are too tilted towards the rights of perpetrators and often just tramples over the pain and rights of victims and their families. There must be a way to adequately consider both.

    • @jacquelineithell307
      @jacquelineithell307 21 день тому

      Because he is too dangerous to be in prison circulation with his mental state , but by your reply , it’s ok if put in prison, as if he then kills more people , hey their only convicts ,so they are way down the line , to lots of people it’s not perfect , but are law is to protect people, and that’s exactly what it is doing, as l said absolutely devastating for the victims families but that’s are , law may the not be , to the likening of people but it the Law

  • @Ineedyoulou
    @Ineedyoulou 21 день тому

    Is it because I'm black................

  • @josephfelts6560
    @josephfelts6560 21 день тому

    Some say the criminal justice system is on the side of the criminal with Valdo Calocane. Someone said regardless of mental state, he should have been convicted of murder. And yet, the committance to murder is to have the intent, and the conduct, and Calocane was found to have lacked the intent. Could not be proven for murder.
    The law makes mitigation for one found not to be in the sanity of their own mind at the time of the offence. They could not form the intent due to their mind being impaired. Is that right? You're not in a sane frame of mind, your mind is controlling you, not the other way around. If you're not in control of your actions, is it right to hold you accountable for them?
    I feel for the families of the deceased. It's shattering to lose a loved one, particularly to crime. We seem to have accepted the law until it happens to us, or to someone connected, and then we voice opinions. It is not always straightforward in a killing that it is murder.
    Here, with Calocane, the injustice is not with the criminal justice system. On several, several occasions, he came to the attention of mental health facilities, psychiatric professionals, and at one point was deemed of a low risk, thus managed in the community. He had displayed instances of mental disturbance at home and around him outside.
    He had been arrested on occasion and found to be mentally unstable, psychologically troubled, prescribed with medication he eventually stopped taking, and was due to be arrested for failing to turn up to court for a charge of assault, at the time he committed the killings.
    There is blame to be laid, because in his mental state, Calocane was not considered a risk, and treated openly in the public, allowing him to just break out and kill. At some point early on in 2019, he was said to have stated he was hearing voices, felt he was being followed by intelligent agencies, even going down to the MI5 HQ, to confront them.
    We tend to view others as 'not normal', 'not right', because they're not like us. We want to discard them immediately, like litter, and literally like litter, such people are discarded inappropriately, and left for someone else to deal with, and so on, and so on, until no one deals with the litter properly, if at all.
    If it were my relative or friend, I would want justice. As I said, I feel for the families, the look on Dr Kumar says a whole lot. But the law is the law. The CoA had found likewise.A killing has occurred, the culprit found and convicted. The facts lead to an outcome that may suit some, and not others, but it has followed the law. Like we're suppose to.

  • @A-small-amount-of-peas
    @A-small-amount-of-peas 21 день тому +2

    These comments are truly sickening. A bunch of amateur qualified psychologists apparently who love victim sympathising so much that they forget they aren't qualified to assess what happened and would rather revel in the attention they get from virtue signalling

    • @aoc092
      @aoc092 21 день тому

      Is Victim sympathizing such a bad thing? What if one of the three dead victims had been your child or parent or even close friend, would you be so flippant about people sympathising with the victims families? It is possible to understand the plight of the mentally ill killer, yet still feel sympathy and compassion for all the families, whose pain and loss is permanent. The law can feel like a bludgeoning to victims and their families, especially in a case like this, so many will sympatise with their situation.
      Don't forget that the professional psychologists can and do get it wrong sometimes so..

  • @user-kq9vv5tj1u
    @user-kq9vv5tj1u 21 день тому +3

    Wait mental health?? He ain't a white man😂😂

  • @bazmilo-furball1
    @bazmilo-furball1 21 день тому +10

    He’s black why would he face the consequences of his actions?!!

    • @susanplatt5331
      @susanplatt5331 21 день тому

      It has nothing to do with colour. He's being detained in the correct facility.

    • @Evertonfan1995-le9tr
      @Evertonfan1995-le9tr 21 день тому

      @@susanplatt5331 13% doing 99% of crimes got everything to do with colour

  • @user-km6jk6xh3v
    @user-km6jk6xh3v 21 день тому

    Im not going to post im so sorry for the loss of your daughter in the first post.
    R.I.P. your now an angel looking over and protecting your parents ❤️❤️