Very informative video. I can see this working in a few of the rivers I fish. It might be a bit easier than nymphing upriver in some stretches as well.
I was born and still are in the wrong country. My friends could not understand me,when I said this when we were young. This feeling is only got stronger as I got older. I use to dream that the little forest at the edge of my home village was like Canada or Alaska.That the small and only (called) mountain there was much bigger. Unending great.With RIVERS. Where I lived in my own build house. With rifles en fishinggear and canoes beneathe at the river where my house was on the mountainhill!!. You have those everywhere over there.And SO Much more. I am glad that these kind of vids are made by enthousiasts like you sir. It calms me,and for a brief small period,I'm not here in (cursing)Europe. But in a country where I should be. I know from my flyfish vacations how it really is,so I said nothing to much I think. What can you really do,for whole days and year around long,without getting bored?? Flyfishing and walking in the trouts and or salmons habitat.
what country you from? Im in Poland, and there's plenty of fly fishing possibilities, either on the south or on the north. also in neighboring countries like Slovakia and Czech
I live an hours drive from this stream, and not a day goes by that I don’t wish I lived somewhere with good fishing, lol. Like the Green River in Utah... ten to twenty thousand browns per mile. This river you’re happy with one small brown a day...
How much would it cost to buy to your tranquility and calmness? I mean when I go fishing I'm very relaxed but just by your tone of voice you're on a whole different level of tranquility. As if you've never been in a rush before. So well collected and organized.
I was fishing the south fork of the Rio Grande and the trout were rising in the riffles. I had read that if you swung your fly they would take and it worked. A fish on every cast. They wouldn't touch a dead drifted fly.
Hi. I am still a beginner but I always thought it was important to fish up stream. For reasons such as stealth and the ability to set the fish better. I'm curious as to why you fish down? Is it because of the technique you use? Specifically talking about small creek trout.
Fishing downstream is a classic wet fly method used for many species. Look up Yorkshire wet flies or North Country wet flies to see both the flies and the technique. Also check out books by Sylvester Nemes and Dave Hughes if you wish to learn more about the method.
hooked4lifeca that’s a common misconception over your side of the pond. North country wet, spiders and Clyde style flies were generally fished upstream here in Scotland and the north of England. All the old writers say it. Tod stoddart, TE Pritt and WC Stewart all recommended the upstream wet. Swinging was just for sea trout and salmon. Lovely vid though😊
when you get a bite, instead of hook setting with your rod do a strip set which is basically hook setting with your line, sort of like your stripping it back to you.
I don't use wet flies though but I fish the same way in small creeks and I swim my streamers alot and when the fly starts to rise up in the water column is when I would get most of my bites
Little stream? Humm. I caught trout in a stream in which you could not possibly cast, in any fashion: And in two wide steps you were across on the other side! So how did I fish it? I threw, by hand, the fly into the stream and left it drift. I caught two 1.75 pound trout in 5 minutes. The stream was south of Sabrina lake California, north of Bishop.
Is the act of swinging flies the same concept as swinging streamers? I have a hard time understanding if I am doing something right or wrong when swinging wet flies and soft hackles. Any tip you can give me that might help? It was difficult to convey what I wanted to ask hopefully you understand what I am asking. Thank you for the videos keep making them!
Simplest approach is to think about what we're imitating. Wet flies imitate insects so they must be moved slow as insects don't go ripping through the water. Streamers and bucktails imitate baitfish that do swim well, so we present them faster.
hooked4lifeca VERY NICE!! I have a 6’ 4wt custom built by Phil Smith about 5 years ago that I love. It’s my go to rod for hitting the tiny Native Brook trout streams.
@@jackkrag Thanks, I appreciate that. It was my first attempt at decent outdoor audio and it turned out pretty good. Coming from a still photography background, I didn't find the visual part of video a big hill to climb, but the audio aspect remains a constant challenge. Full respect to the audio techs out there.
Awesome video, information & scenery, disagree that swing'n flies for steeles & salmon,some of my biggest trout & bass came on a swung fly, swinging woolly buggers or other streamers produces some of my biggest fish,tight lines & bent rods
You obviously haven't seen some of my other videos. :) To date some of my fish caught on a swung fly, and by no means an exhaustive list: steelhead, chinook, pink, sockeye, rainbow, brown, brookie, Atlantic, smallie, largie, pike, carp, sheephead, black buffalo sucker, channel cat, mooneye, striper, hickory shad, etc.
Could you show how you tie it, please? Your small creek video you tied that knot a few times by looping the line on your finger but did not show how to tie the knot. I understand that was not the focus of that video... btw .. you were fishing a Beautiful bamboo rod in that video, just felt it needed mentioning. Cheers
@@stephennolin8129 I haven't bothered doing knot videos as there are so many already out there. Here's a good sample: ua-cam.com/video/Ya7ScS6EfOY/v-deo.html
Ted Knott built the rod and he would tweak existing tapers. I'm not sure, but it was based either on a Payne or a Leonard. Unfortunately Ted is no longer with us otherwise I would ask him.
It's a fly of my own design, sort of a cross between a downwing caddis dry and a soft hackle wet. It imitates female Hydropsychidae as they dive down in riffle water to lay their eggs. They swim down and back up using their wings as if they're flying through the water. Neat to watch as they're all a flutter as they come up through the water column. The fly has to be built to move, plus the pulsing, to imitate the flutter. One of these days I'll have to do a video on tying it as it's a great pattern when the females are active egg laying.
Forgot to include that the common names for Hydropsychidae are Cinnamon Sedge, Spotted Sedge or Tan Caddis. Here's some links about them: www.troutnut.com/common-name/339/Spotted-Sedges bugguide.net/node/view/13136
Not the best picture, but it provides the general idea: www.hooked4life.ca/h4l/files/caddis.jpg It's usually done with a dubbed tan body, but I always tie a few up in caddis green as well.
Not necessarily. This is a very traditional way to fish a wet fly and it is effective. The diving caddis requires movement and doesn't work if dead drifted. It imitates the Hydropsychidae whose females dive down to the bottom to lay eggs. They're very active swimmers and that is what this technique imitates.
It does not matter from where I blow it!Flyfishing down stream.... !! COME ON MAN THAT IS JUST TOO DAMM EASY!!UP UP UP UPSTREAM.... show me UPSTREAM and then catch a fisch like that!! Then you are the mann!!
At least I wasn't using worms. I thought we left this sort of thing behind with Skues and Halford. Since this isn't the Test, I'll fish it anyway I choose, up, down or sideways.
There's a time and place for everything. Swinging a fly or stripping a streamer 45 degrees downstream is a good way to catch the biggest fish in the river. Fishing dry flies upstream isn't the only way to fly fish dude especially since he said there was no hatch going off.
Justin Church JESUS MAN!! We are not talking about streamer fishing! I am talking about the the only way of classic flyfishing and that is UPSTREAM with a nimpf or a dryfly. If you are any good you wil catch fisch.
@philip gerritsen I don't care how you fish buddy. Just saying that fishing upstream with a "nimpf" (nymph) or dry fly is not the only traditional way to fly fish. People have been swinging wet flies for hundreds of years. Look it up. I agree with you that i usually fish upstream, but don't knock it 'till you try it man :) Also i added streamers in there because they're fished in a similar fashion. But we don't have to get into that. @hooked4lifeca Sweet video man, keep it up!
That cast at 13:51 was beautiful... I had to rewatch it a couple times to lock it in my memory
I learn a lot just by watching you fish. Please keep uploading!
I love such small streams. They offer kind of intimate fishing, usually light or no pressure and loneliness on the water.
Thank you Peter, good stuff,, that knot you tie is intriguing, also nice gear.
You're welcome. I'm using a uni-knot.
I just learned so much by watching you. These videos are great especially with the bug info! Thank you very much
Very informative video. I can see this working in a few of the rivers I fish. It might be a bit easier than nymphing upriver in some stretches as well.
I was born and still are in the wrong country. My friends could not understand me,when I said this when we were young. This feeling is only got stronger as I got older. I use to dream that the little forest at the edge of my home village was like Canada or Alaska.That the small and only (called) mountain there was much bigger. Unending great.With RIVERS. Where I lived in my own build house. With rifles en fishinggear and canoes beneathe at the river where my house was on the mountainhill!!.
You have those everywhere over there.And SO Much more.
I am glad that these kind of vids are made by enthousiasts like you sir. It calms me,and for a brief small period,I'm not here in (cursing)Europe. But in a country where I should be. I know from my flyfish vacations how it really is,so I said nothing to much I think.
What can you really do,for whole days and year around long,without getting bored?? Flyfishing and walking in the trouts and or salmons habitat.
what country you from? Im in Poland, and there's plenty of fly fishing possibilities, either on the south or on the north. also in neighboring countries like Slovakia and Czech
I live an hours drive from this stream, and not a day goes by that I don’t wish I lived somewhere with good fishing, lol. Like the Green River in Utah... ten to twenty thousand browns per mile. This river you’re happy with one small brown a day...
A beautiful video of my favorite river. Tough fishing, but she sure is pretty. Never done well swing a wet downstream, personally.
How much would it cost to buy to your tranquility and calmness? I mean when I go fishing I'm very relaxed but just by your tone of voice you're on a whole different level of tranquility. As if you've never been in a rush before. So well collected and organized.
Roni Manasi It's called 'retirement' :)
hooked4lifeca I'll be looking forward to it then. Where is this creek?
Roni Manasi Southern Ontario. It's a well known Great Lakes steelhead nursery.
hooked4lifeca shhhhhhhhhh lol
A great look at real-life fly fishing...Wading downstream swinging a fly across while "pulsing" can really work ...Lots of good info...
I was fishing the south fork of the Rio Grande and the trout were rising in the riffles. I had read that if you swung your fly they would take and it worked. A fish on every cast. They wouldn't touch a dead drifted fly.
Hi. I am still a beginner but I always thought it was important to fish up stream. For reasons such as stealth and the ability to set the fish better. I'm curious as to why you fish down? Is it because of the technique you use? Specifically talking about small creek trout.
Fishing downstream is a classic wet fly method used for many species. Look up Yorkshire wet flies or North Country wet flies to see both the flies and the technique. Also check out books by Sylvester Nemes and Dave Hughes if you wish to learn more about the method.
hooked4lifeca that’s a common misconception over your side of the pond. North country wet, spiders and Clyde style flies were generally fished upstream here in Scotland and the north of England. All the old writers say it. Tod stoddart, TE Pritt and WC Stewart all recommended the upstream wet. Swinging was just for sea trout and salmon. Lovely vid though😊
Lovely stream. Could do without the background music, the sound of the water is music to my ears.
Yep, just like I was taught. Nicely done.
when you get a bite, instead of hook setting with your rod do a strip set which is basically hook setting with your line, sort of like your stripping it back to you.
Usually in a wet fly swing, we just let the fish hook themselves. A hook set is often counter productive.
@@hooked4lifeca oh ok
Great video, thank you Peter
I fish the same way and do quite well
I don't use wet flies though but I fish the same way in small creeks and I swim my streamers alot and when the fly starts to rise up in the water column is when I would get most of my bites
Little stream? Humm. I caught trout in a stream in which you could not possibly cast, in any fashion: And in two wide steps you were across on the other side! So how did I fish it? I threw, by hand, the fly into the stream and left it drift. I caught two 1.75 pound trout in 5 minutes. The stream was south of Sabrina lake California, north of Bishop.
What Bamboo Rod are You using? Nothing like catching Trout on a Bamboo Rod!
It's a Ted Knott 7' 4/5 rod based on a Payne taper.
Is the act of swinging flies the same concept as swinging streamers? I have a hard time understanding if I am doing something right or wrong when swinging wet flies and soft hackles. Any tip you can give me that might help? It was difficult to convey what I wanted to ask hopefully you understand what I am asking. Thank you for the videos keep making them!
Simplest approach is to think about what we're imitating. Wet flies imitate insects so they must be moved slow as insects don't go ripping through the water. Streamers and bucktails imitate baitfish that do swim well, so we present them faster.
Hi Peter, nice creek, and a nice video, thát knot at for instance 12.45, I have never seen thát before, what is it called....?
It has two names, Grinner or UNI Knot
Love that bamboo fly rod
You need your 1 wt. Rolling out there 👍😁
The one that got away was always much bigger. Funny how that is.
It's always that way - it's a rule.
what kind of rod is that it looks awesome i might have to get something similar to that
It's a 7' 4/5 wt. bamboo built by Ted Knott.
Love the rod! Can you tell me more about it and the reel?
The rod is a 7' 4/5 wt. built for me by Ted Knott, 20 years ago. The reel is a J. Austin Forbes Thistle.
hooked4lifeca VERY NICE!! I have a 6’ 4wt custom built by Phil Smith about 5 years ago that I love. It’s my go to rod for hitting the tiny Native Brook trout streams.
What was the knot you used on the wet fly please?
It goes by either UNI Knot or Grinner Knot - same thing. I have a video on how to tie it.
thanks! p.s. audio levels perfect.
Thanks, I used a Zoom H1 with a lav and synched it to the two GoPros. The audio from GoPros are unusable, except for synching in post.
truely. one of the best . i am a guide and kind of a fly vid nerd. k
@@jackkrag Thanks, I appreciate that. It was my first attempt at decent outdoor audio and it turned out pretty good. Coming from a still photography background, I didn't find the visual part of video a big hill to climb, but the audio aspect remains a constant challenge. Full respect to the audio techs out there.
Very cool, thanks for sharing.
What is going on with this line management? Everything else is well done...
Great video! Can't say the same about the music.
curious, is this up close to forks of credit area?
No it isn't the Credit.
Awesome video, information & scenery, disagree that swing'n flies for steeles & salmon,some of my biggest trout & bass came on a swung fly, swinging woolly buggers or other streamers produces some of my biggest fish,tight lines & bent rods
You obviously haven't seen some of my other videos. :) To date some of my fish caught on a swung fly, and by no means an exhaustive list: steelhead, chinook, pink, sockeye, rainbow, brown, brookie, Atlantic, smallie, largie, pike, carp, sheephead, black buffalo sucker, channel cat, mooneye, striper, hickory shad, etc.
@@hooked4lifeca just discovered your channel & love the old school tying portion & agree with you 🤟
Are you located in British Columbia Canada?
jaxon mackie No, I'm in southern Ontario
You aren't just dropping all those monofilament tags into the water are you......
What knot are you using to tie on the fly?
It's a Uni-Knot, otherwise known as a Duncan Knot. It's a slip, loop knot.
What knot are you tying your flies on with?
I typically use a Uni-Knot
Could you show how you tie it, please? Your small creek video you tied that knot a few times by looping the line on your finger but did not show how to tie the knot. I understand that was not the focus of that video... btw .. you were fishing a Beautiful bamboo rod in that video, just felt it needed mentioning. Cheers
@@stephennolin8129 I haven't bothered doing knot videos as there are so many already out there. Here's a good sample: ua-cam.com/video/Ya7ScS6EfOY/v-deo.html
this isnt a small stream. LOL
I was thinking the same thing.......I don't call that a small creek!
very enjoyable
What kind of rod is that 😍
It's a 7' 4/5 wt. bamboo rod built by Ted Knott.
What taper was that split cane rod modeled after?
Ted Knott built the rod and he would tweak existing tapers. I'm not sure, but it was based either on a Payne or a Leonard. Unfortunately Ted is no longer with us otherwise I would ask him.
Whats the length and line weight, cause it looks like it does a marvelous job at wet flies.
It's a 7' 4/5 wt. with an older Airflo 5 wt. Ridge Presentation line on it. The reel is a J. Austin Forbes Thistle.
While I was watching you fish I was thinking this rod was maybe based on a Payne. It looks like it has that smooth and pleasant way about it.
What did you catch??
Both rainbow and brown trout are in that creek.
why the hell don't you use your spool? Nice video though.
Here in Amsterdam the flyfishers call this kind of fishing "walking the dog". You miss tons of fish like that!.
Sir. How were you tying on that fly???
I use Uni-knot
is it soft hackle ?
It's a fly of my own design, sort of a cross between a downwing caddis dry and a soft hackle wet. It imitates female Hydropsychidae as they dive down in riffle water to lay their eggs. They swim down and back up using their wings as if they're flying through the water. Neat to watch as they're all a flutter as they come up through the water column. The fly has to be built to move, plus the pulsing, to imitate the flutter.
One of these days I'll have to do a video on tying it as it's a great pattern when the females are active egg laying.
Forgot to include that the common names for Hydropsychidae are Cinnamon Sedge, Spotted Sedge or Tan Caddis. Here's some links about them:
www.troutnut.com/common-name/339/Spotted-Sedges
bugguide.net/node/view/13136
interesting fly, i'd appreciate if you show it in bigger picture
Not the best picture, but it provides the general idea: www.hooked4life.ca/h4l/files/caddis.jpg
It's usually done with a dubbed tan body, but I always tie a few up in caddis green as well.
The more beaten up the wing becomes, the better it fishes as then it flutters more easily.
That doesnt look like a "little creek" to me, or I am going to have to change my definition of little.
Its a good sized creek in some places. Other places its tiny.
Get better results casting up stream. It's a more natural drift.
Not necessarily. This is a very traditional way to fish a wet fly and it is effective. The diving caddis requires movement and doesn't work if dead drifted. It imitates the Hydropsychidae whose females dive down to the bottom to lay eggs. They're very active swimmers and that is what this technique imitates.
ГДЕ РЫБА?СТОЛЬКО ПРИСПОСОБЛЕНИЙ И НИ ОДНОЙ РЫБЫ.ВОТ ПОСМОТРИ :ua-cam.com/video/bY0_AGEp0jo/v-deo.html
It's not always about the numbers and the size of the fish.
This isn’t swinging.
You talk a lot better then you catch.. :-))
This is too easy man!! Try casting upstream... as proper flyfishing should be done!
It does not matter from where I blow it!Flyfishing down stream.... !! COME ON MAN THAT IS JUST TOO DAMM EASY!!UP UP UP UPSTREAM.... show me UPSTREAM and then catch a fisch like that!! Then you are the mann!!
At least I wasn't using worms.
I thought we left this sort of thing behind with Skues and Halford. Since this isn't the Test, I'll fish it anyway I choose, up, down or sideways.
There's a time and place for everything. Swinging a fly or stripping a streamer 45 degrees downstream is a good way to catch the biggest fish in the river. Fishing dry flies upstream isn't the only way to fly fish dude especially since he said there was no hatch going off.
Justin Church JESUS MAN!! We are not talking about streamer fishing! I am talking about the the only way of classic flyfishing and that is UPSTREAM with a nimpf or a dryfly. If you are any good you wil catch fisch.
@philip gerritsen I don't care how you fish buddy. Just saying that fishing upstream with a "nimpf" (nymph) or dry fly is not the only traditional way to fly fish. People have been swinging wet flies for hundreds of years. Look it up. I agree with you that i usually fish upstream, but don't knock it 'till you try it man :) Also i added streamers in there because they're fished in a similar fashion. But we don't have to get into that. @hooked4lifeca Sweet video man, keep it up!