Why You Need Level IV Body Armor For SHTF | LVL III & IV vs M193 & M855
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- Опубліковано 2 сер 2024
- Why You Need Level IV Body Armor For SHTF | LVL III & IV vs M193 & M855
We can all agree that body armor has it's place when prepping for SHTF. However, based on the data in this video, you probably need level IV at least.
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00:00 Introduction
02:49 M193 MIRA LVL IV TEST
03:55 M855 Sandbag Hit
04:54 M855 MIRA LVL IV TEST
07:09 M193 STEEL LVL III TEST
08:13 M855 STEEL LVL III TEST
10:36 LVL IV & LVL III vs 5.56 Overview
13:14 460 S&W MIRA LVL IV TEST
16:26 460 S&W STEEL LVL III TEST
18:05 Overview Of Armor Test - Розваги
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What company did you get the steel from
I would always suggest getting lvl4 plates however I think if you’re going to test a common round for SHTf you should test it using common barrel length. Lvl3 is no match for a 556 from a 20” barrel but I would consider 16” & shorter a common barrel length.
I was more interested in verifying that the LVL IV plate could handle the 5.56 out of a 20" barrel. Even if 16" is generally more common, there are quite a few 18" & 20" SPR types running around as well so at least we know what the failure point would be.
If you’re just sporting a 16”, you’re tacticool. Nothing less than the maximum burn length for your SHTF weapon.
Contact distance is always a factor too.
I've seen LEVEL III PLATES HUNG AS GONGS AND IT STOPPED ALL KINDS OF AMMO AND BARREL LENGTHS OUT AT 100, 200 AND 300 YARDS.
ANYONE WHO WANTS A FIRE FIGHT AT 50 YARDS OR LESS, IS IN AMBUSH ZONE AND THATS WHERE YOU SHOOT Fast and spray the body...armor ain't gonna help one ambushed at 10, 20, or 30 yards....
At that distance, its pray and spray behind cover! We called it bad breath range.
It's what nightmares are made off!
@@arminiuschatti2287 you only rock a 20? For me it's 30 or gtfo.
@@MagicPrepper not as many as you'd think.
I didn't believe a .223 fmj could ever make it though steel like that until my brother shot one of my steel gongs from only about 30 yards away out of a 20" barrel. It didn't go through the 1/4' steel but it almost did.
Pretty crazy just how much velocity matters.
Yeah, we shot some empty fire extinguishers people left out in the dessert. Impressive.
I learned early on from youtube xm193 is what you have to worry about. Not green tip. Green tip is also often less accurate in 100y tests, maybe the bullet carries a little better at range since it is a touch heavier. I havent been interested enough in it to research.
Run a poly plate behind the steel for extra protection. Only adds a extra pound. and acts like a trama plate.
@@flycrew didn't the military go green tips because the M4 has the short 14.5" barrel and it sacrifices alot of velocity so the m855 helps at the reduced velocities vs the FMJ xm193
Thank you for testing an AR-15 using a full 20" barrel. I hate seeing armor plate reviewers using less optimal barrel lengths to test 5.56 with. If you're not going for max velocity with the 5.56 your test results are automatically skewed.
This video was awesome please do more in this format, especially now that you have that range ✌️
Oh man I love having a range.
I have III+ steel. My issue with composite and ceramic is that while it's great at stopping bullets, it isn't super resilient. If you stack a couple of 5.56 into the same hole, it is going to go through. A few years ago, Demo Ranch took over 90rds to get a penetration on III+ AR500 steel with M855.
Consider in SHTF, we don't have resupply from top tier logistics and the support of the whole Defense Industrial Base. We have what we have, unlike SEALs or even infantry guys who will get a new plate if they catch one.
Spall is an issue but can be mitigated by a quality carrier and spall sleeves, some of which also have integral trauma pads for the shock from the impact.
Not that Level IV plates aren't boss, BUT you're paying a lot of money for something that can take fewer rounds when you're not going to be able to get more.
Also, something like 80% of wounds sustained in a gun fight are to extremities.
All good points!
Well said
Your well versed....likeni said earlier in another post.
Contact distance of less than 30 yards by a force is what nightmares are made of.
No armor is gonna save anyone at that close range with multiple automatic fire. Your limbs are toast, just like you stated!
I agree. Good points on the steel. Still I like my lvl4. I always joke, if you're worried about getting hit that many times maybe you should f--king move and step out of sight of the belt fed. But I do think about resupply as well.
Steel plates are good for storage. But ceramic is best for everyday use.
I've seen level 3+ AR550 Steel plates, stop M193 and M855.
Yup they can do it.
Those were weird results steel core should penetrate more(kind of why it sucks) . My ar500 targets stop 762x54 193 and 855 just fine. Maybe that armor wasnt actually rated for that, or too thin
@@rwally192 m193 55gr has a higher velocity that m855 62gr. Thats why the green tip stopped and the ball ammo sailed right through.
@@MrMunky1985 green tip was designed to penetrate 1/4" of steel. And the velocity difference is only what 100/200fps.that's 3-6%
@@rwally192 M855 was NOT designed to go through 1/4" of steel. Go watch some videos about the round.
Very well done Magic! Great examples showing the differences between the 3&4. I will never put them on again. good luck
7, or 8, years ago, I watched a video from Iraqivet8888. He tested all of SPARTAN Armors armor plates. Towards the end of the video, he had the steel 10X12 SPARTAN LEVEL III plate still standing strong, so he broke out the M1 GARAND WITH 3006 AP ROUNDS AND SHOT THE plate at 40ft or 45ft whichever is NIJ TESTING DISTANCE.
He shot all the rounds dead center and it was the LAST AP ROUND THAT PUNCHED THROUGH.
They tested some exotic rounds against that Plate too. All were stopped but the 8th round of 3006.
That was the first set of plates I purchased as well as my son.
Then, many years later Mrgunsngear tested BOTACH (BATTLE STEEL ARMOR PLATES) LEVEL III @3.5# EACH. Bought a set of them next and finally BATTLE STEEL LEVEL III+ (BOTACH) @ 1# more.
So.i have 3 sets of good decent plates plus side plates and 2 condor EXO plate carriers which hold FBI 2.0, full soft armor and all the KDH ARMOR Accessories that the military has on hand for their levels of warfare, plus the old combat gear (ALICE) we used before armor was out their (unless SF experimental armor in the 70's)
IF you need to go real fast, no armor...
If youexpect, contact then vehicle armor is necessary as well as armor. Just remember, pounds equal pain!
I'm now on the lightest stuff out there with enough back up with soft armor that will absorb truma, also the special kentic shock pads in back of the armor, will stop the shock. All necessary items in a kit.
Armor has come a long way, as well as many price points.
Hesco, Spartan, and others are all good. All you have to do is look at IRAQVET8888, OR MRGUNSNGEAR.
If they are NIJ tested all the more better.
Spartan Armors level III WERE NIJ TESTED AS WELL AS LEVEL III+ STEEL PLATES WITH SPALL BLOCK.
I trust them to stop 99% of all threats, but way to heavy now for this 69 year old @9# each.
To each their own.
I covered all my bases .
Thanks for sharing your experience. It's always good to get more ideas out there for people to look into.
I also have level 3 Spartan armor and am completely satisfied with them after watching iraqivet8888's video.
@@ChineseChicken1 Yep, those plates will never be sold, that beat out many a plate back then. I watched all the people that posted shooting the Spartan Level III plate with spall block, before I bought. I believe he had them treated to above 500 steel. I could be wrong.
Thanks for supporting what I stated on Spartan Amors Level III plate.
Thanks for staying down to earth and not fear mongering/massive speculation. Useful info and demonstration!
Great demonstration , thanks for sharing , God bless !
Trauma pads are a must with any armour
Good tip
Actually exactly this topic is what i was wondering. You make excellent points in this video.
Level 3 plates are not much good. Now I got the 3+ that’s good for anything I might encounter. That’s the minimum I’d suggest, it’s good for 30-06. Also the anti-spall coating is well worth the upcharge! The coating will hold the bullet and any shrapnel in one spot, encapsulated! I watched some vids in action! Side plates are a good option too, if you can handle a little more weight. As far as the plate carrier, I can’t speak highly enough of my Agilite! It’s got quick adjustments and you can pull the two releases on one side and shed it quickly if needed! Agilite is made by IDF, Israeli Defense Force and used by Musaad!
Good point on the III+ All I had was level III's to compare the IV's to. And Aglite looks to be good stuff. I haven't ever had any.
@@MagicPrepper very comfortable and excellent weight distribution too. Has thick padding on support straps, doesn’t cause any fatigue wearing it all day!
I mean, level 3 stops all of the most likely encounters. How is that not much good? Mathematically I think its right at 99% good.
@@constantk8780 how is that so? 556 or 308 not common? So many platforms for range and cqb use those calibers. If any rounds are true AP, that level 3 is toast!
I got lvl 3+ and lvl 4
level 4 plate and the most beast mode medford pocket knife, RESPECT!
i gotta go through more or you vids cuz i didnt even know you had that.
great advice on buying level 3 steel and working up to level 4 when the budget allows. thats what i did
ive even got iiia soft.
i like a level 4 front and iiia soft rear or maybe no rear depending on what youre gonna do.
the level 3 steel with a iiia soft in the rear is another combo i run or could pass to someone
i recommend steel and soft because of the low maintenance of steel and rotating out your soft armor over time and wear. fun target to shoot, sell or gift later
AR500 steel 3+ is worth having due to its longevity in SHTF. Best thing would be have a level 4 primary with a small stack of steel plates for backup
Not a bad approach!
So the first time you get smoked in the plates you die from infection from the spall in your face?
This is what I believe as well. The steel has longevity benefits but it has limitations to what it protects against, never mind the “congratulations, you didn’t get shot but you die when spall cuts your carotid instead”. Seeing some spall tests online have been really eye opening to me.
But, some armor is better than none. And if your ceramics are toast having something is a good backup. My steel plates are in a Kevlar sleeve to try and mitigate the spall scare damage (beyond whatever coating the plates got at the factory). I’m saving for level 4 ceramics.
Kudos to you for showing the sand bag footage. Honesty in media is a rare thing indeed.
Haha well it happened so I figured I had to fess up.
This feels like an infomercial for Mira armor but if it was on TV at 3 am I'd watch it.
To be fair, they made it possible for me to be comfortable wasting high end armor haha
Good video! TY!
Not going to lie. I've invested in the plate carrier etc. but haven't got my armor yet. I will be getting level 4 when I get some though. Thanks for your work MP, fellow MidWesterner.
No worries. You have to take your time and work your way up! Good call on getting the carrier first as worst comes to worst, you at least have a fancy chest rig.
@@MagicPrepper That's my thoughts on it. The guy from Military Arms Channel doesn't even believe in armor so I figure I'm at least on par with him... I agree with taking steps though. Right now I'm trying to find chimney sections for the wood stove I already bought. At least I have the stove...
@@MagicPrepper Nice revolver btw.
How’d it go? Just remember to not overload yourself with weight. Lvl 4’s suck to wear for any extended time.
Magic Prepper-
Thank you, for another insightful and informative video!!
Much respect to you.
Anytime Emanuel!
Great channel!
Another great video, thanks for the time you put into bringing great content to your viewers.
Hey no problem as I had a great time making this one.
@@MagicPrepper looked like it
Thank you
Thanks, Magic.
Very cool video!
Excellent info especially the m193 crazy. This is why I want level 4 armored plates
Great review! Finally a channel with logic based common sense subject matters. That Matter! Think about that... I don't care what a frozen pistol or rifle will do or won't do, shame on those channels you know who you are. Keep up the great work Magic 👍
Great video !
Lol your most Paul Harrell video yet. You even have a similar vocal cadence in the beginning. Good stuff.
I can't only hope to hold a torch to that flame.
Great video, Great information, thank you for your work. MIRA ceramic for 250 definitely worth it
It seems to be a pretty dang good price point considering.
my AR500 plates are rated Level 3 at 100 yards. 55 grain slows down faster than 62 grain. your tests were about 10 yards. At 100 yards plus 55 grain barely takes the paint off while 62 grain green tip leaves a small divot. Your tests approximate more closely point blank range, like room/building clearing. Everything is faster at point blank.
Thanks
ballistic coefficients always blow my mind. GREAT VIDEO MAGIC - I could watch you shoot stuff all day while I'm supposed to be working lol.
Haha well who wants to work really? And yes, BC's can break your mind.
This was eye opening for me. I work as a security officer in Tucson Arizona and all I have is level 3 steel plates. I need to save up money and get level 4
Excellent video.....I keep telling people M193 from a 20 inch Barrell is the best ammo to stockpile for shtf.....the velocity "almost" guarantees it will yaw and fragment and also give you the ability to defeat body armor as you proved in this video.....I was thinking about level 3+ BUT I think the wise investment is level 4.....Now I will admit I didn't like how those 2 rounds caused that much damage to the ceramic plate and makes me wonder how "multi hit capable" level 4 ceramic may be......
Well my hope is to stop any round from penetrating first. Then worry about multiple hits after. Which that first hit hopefully gives me a wake up call to get to cover haha.
It's funny I seen this video because my first plates are Downrange Industries AR600 level III+ and Mira Safety level IV I honestly think you need both. AR600 would stop whatever but there is a very slight noticeable difference between the weight but either way I like them both. I also have 6×8 plates in Steel and Ceramic they both feel great. FYI they make spawling gaurds for 10×12 and 6×8 plates etc. I took it a step further and got UARM soft body armor neck, shoulder, stomach, inner + outer thigh, war belt and shoulder strap soft armor just incase spawling was a issue. I think all 3 companies are great 👍
Ceramic it lighter but it isn’t good for multiple impacts in same area.
I use III+ with coating
Ceramic is nice if you have several plates to change out just in case
The added weight for Steele plates doesn’t bother me with a high quality carrier it is super comfortable
Good luck 👍
My Level IV took 5, .308 hits before it was little more than ceramic splinters (imagine glass shards) jangling around inside the carrier (empty mag pouches). My AR500 Lvl III+ stopped 16 rnds of .308 before the anti-spall coating separated. No spalling at all until the coating broke down (I had the plate set up in a box). I actually do think the III+ is rated up to 30.06 and 5.56AP (I know it will stop the 5.56AP). I use a Remington 700 BBL and an Interarms Mauser Mark X Classic in 30.06 (the Mauser does not have a Bull Barrel) for hunting in the US, I probably should pick up another III+ plate and make sure it holds up against 150gr spire points...I'm confident it will do fine and last longer than ceramic. Note I think Black Tip 30.06AP would probably defeat the III+ however. At this point, I'm still choosing the Lvl III+ coated steel over the Lvl 4 ceramic -- 30.06AP would penetrate it and probably the Lvl IV after a few shots as well, but I think .50BMG or 12.7 x 108 Russian is probably more common in combat then the 30.06AP, and if I get hit by one of those bad boys it's over regardless of any armor I'm wearing (sands a M1A1)
Great video
IV in the highest end makes sense, but a budget 1155 RMA doesn't really considering the weight disadvantage, thickness and odds you encounter a threat that can defeat Special Threat "3+".
Very cool 😎.....well I guess they lie when they say that the steel plate will stop 5.56×45 and 7.62×39!!! But clearly you punched right threw it with the green tip!
I got LA Police gear LVL4 plates for $105 each. Not as nice as these and they weigh 6.2lbs each, but I have been watching and researching them for over a year and they still hold up well in tests done by buyers and owners.
They’re pretty expensive but if you have the money look into safelifedefenses FRAS plates. They’re really awesome. I also came across this company called Hoplite which makes femoral plates for your legs as well. Those are pretty good too
I need 4s and don’t have them yet (have budget metal ones in a spall catching pouch to mitigate that risk). I recognize they’re no good against ARs at 20” barrel but it was what I could afford at the time. Saving for 4s currently.
I am in a state dominated by hunters, so I would be worried about more than 5.56 and 7.62x39. Pretty sure I’ll be looking at 12 gauge slugs and .30-06 and various other large hunting rifles.
Got steel plate level 3+ for me and level 3 for my wife 🤷♂️
Has your wife tried it? According to my wife, plates are extremely uncomfortable for her to wear due to the nature of being a woman. She has soft inserts for her carrier as plates just don't work if you can't wear them.
@@MagicPrepper yup she has had it on but I don't think she would wear it even if shtf she's a wimp lol she can just stay behind cover and keep mags loaded for me and switch rifles when one gets to hot lol. All jokes aside I really don't think she would last long in a battle type situation. She couldn't even handle wearing my military kevlar vest.
@@texascelt8363 those things are definitely heavy and uncomfortable. I get it!
I had to go level 3++ multicurve, best bang for the buck 💯
Flexing with that Medford… sweet knife and awesome content, brother
Haha well it's my EDC now so it just happened to be there ;)
@@MagicPrepper right on. I’ve always wanted a Medford. I’ve got about 20 knives in my rotation; mostly spyderco, benchmade, microtech… my most carried knife is the MT UTX-70!! It is so small, and weighs next to nothing, that I almost always throw it in a pocket even if I’m carrying another knife. I have it in M390, and use it for all the tasks that make me cringe as a knife owner… it’s even my choice when wearing a suit!! Great little blade.
One day, I will own a Medford!!
Nice plate and the 20 inch barrel is no joke i would like to get a 18 in myself ..
Lvl III+ steel are likely superior to lvl VI ceramic in terms of total value. They store longer, can take more hits, and are cheaper. However, I’m looking at moving away from plates all together in favor of a thick shield to save on weight and have more freedom of movement. Quality steel targets are impervious even to 50bmg. The preferred tactic for gun fights, something I did in Iraq, is to hide most of your body behind something, not to count on your body armor to stop incoming fire. If I can hide everything but my legs behind a portable barrier I’m gonna choose that over plates
Goodluck hauling that around everywhere you go at all times...
Btw Magic Prepper…
I appreciate your time in this video, it was very intuitive.
👊🏼🇺🇸
No worries I wanted to try this stuff out. One of the main reasons I got the 20"
@@MagicPrepper much love and respect for you my friend.
Keep doing your work !!!
@@theforgottenone5172 Trying my best!
@@MagicPrepper you are doing well my brother. American spirit lives in us whom refuse to let her die.
You are one who is believed in.
Not to be mistaken for the One Creator!!!
there is a keyboard commando weeping tonight at the destruction of those armor plates. and just to help them out. Well ya know MP if you use this brand of ammo it uses Geospatial Navigation to align concentrically with the armor to provide better foot pounds of energy in a smaller area. good video thanks MP
Ar500lll+ steel can take multiple hits compared to ceramic. The plates that I'm talking about have been tested with 308 556 3006 and several other's and passed
Yes the III+ seems pretty good. Still heavier but there are some decent options that are lighter weight thanks to innovative cuts.
this was an awesome, fun video! I bought affordable Level 3 plates a while back and often wonder if I should have saved my money for Level 4 plates. So many factors come into play, though, as others have mentioned. I run mine with some Kevlar in front and a trauma pad behind, not sure that helps much, but it eases my mind a little bit haha!
I have a 300rum loaded with black tip .30cal. Always wanted to hit a lv4 plate with it.
I'll just wear a couple of sandbags. 😁
I have two sets of HESCO L210, I’m satisfied with what they can stop for the weight and price. That all said, I wear soft armor level 3A at work all day while serving felony warrants. Therefore, L210’s are way more than what 3A offers….
Thanks for the input! I don't have any experience with the HESCO stuff but I have only heard good things.
@@MagicPrepper thanks for commenting back!
@@MagicPrepper also, I don’t know if UA-cam will allow it but check out this training video I made, let me know what you think. ua-cam.com/video/xNJfiadyKak/v-deo.html
Great video. Hope I never run into someone shooting at me at 10 yards and a 20" barrel. If that ever happens I made some serious wrong steps somewhere along the way, or it's an ambush or betrayal.
Things happen I guess?
@@MagicPrepper Hopefully those sort of things don't happen to either of us or any of your subscribers.
@@gnarly3000 💯 I agree
That 460 Smith and Wesson might have been stopped but it would definitely stop your heart from blunt force trauma
Haha for real!
Level 3 plus is sweet spot for me
Caliber body armor has great deals on 3+ take the un coated and wrap with kevlar cloth to stop spalling very inexpensive way to go
3A plates get clapped by everything besides standard handgun ammo.
My 5.7x28 ammo goes through it like cardboard & I've even seen some light for caliber 9mm punch through them.
Steel armor still has a place, despite a lot of people not even considering it.
Especially if you put a good build up coat to catch spall.
They cost a lot less & they don't expire like other armor materials.
They're also significantly thinner.
If you buy a new composite set of plates for like $750, they will need to be replaced in ~5 years.
Steel plates will still be good to go in 25 years, plus they're much better for multi-hit & when they do stop a round, you don't get as hurt from the impact.
Regular 3a yes 3a plus no.
All good points thanks for pointing that out.
I think I watched grand thumb with guard dog body armors I think but it’s a lvl4 ceramic plate that took 5 AP 30-06 rounds without a single penetration
Hey Magic that was very entertaining! Is that the new range on your property you guys were putting together?
I’m had all steel plates but have switched to ceramic just need side plates to be completely covered
This was a good vid
M193 is my go-to... The way it's prone to such great fragmentation when it hits a soft target... Whereas the green tip sometimes just cut right through a soft target
That 20" barrel turned it into a rail gun haha
@@MagicPrepper oh ya .... I've noticed that the IMI 55 grain is hot. I went through half inch steel at 100 yards out of a 16 in gun it was structural steel that we use at work not ar500 but still to think 55 grain will go through half inch steel it's an eye opener 😳
@@danielmacdonald8358 holy cow!
@@MagicPrepper I know I thought the same thing lol ... I'm not very technical savvy but if I can post a picture to this comment section when I get home from work I'll take a picture of the steel
B interesting to see this test with 45-70
I wouldn't be mad haha
Wish could afford , obviously important but with all other preps , food, etc... plus bills its on the list but aint cheap for Level IV
It's good that you are prioritizing properly. Keep it up!
@@MagicPrepper thanks brother
Have you tested the FRAS? That would be a great video, too.
Wow, that 460 s&w round. Holy cow. I bet if that did hit you in the chest with that plate on, it would feel like being hit in the chest with a sledge hammer. That is wild round. It did stop it though.
Haha that was just for fun and man was it nuts! I have a feeling if you were on the other side of that plate, you would be feeling that for years after. If not just perish.
@@MagicPrepper Yup when that plate flew off the table I was like holy shit. He's dead Jim. Lot of energy in that round. I need to go down a 460 s&w rabbit hole and do some research. Love your videos thanks for everything. You would be a fun range buddy for sure.
So that's 3 and 4. Put some rounds on 3A and 3+. There is a difference
He knows that
@@terrareconmy point was for people to *see* that difference, oh master of pithy comments on year old videos.
Great video. Nice to see a real world test. Those nicer ceramics are light and strong, but they have a expiration date. So after a big financial investment in a few years they loose effectiveness somehow.
Yes they generally have a 5 year shelf life. That part is definitely a downside.
Also not very reusable after they take a hit.
@@MagicPrepper gonna need a supply chain. Part of the reason why I bought 3 different sets and 2 sets of soft armor and 2 EXO PLATE CARRIERS closest to KDH military plate carrier I could find....
Almost all of KDH'S ARMOR ACXESSORIES FIT ONTO THE EXO PLATE CARRIER. Only item not fitting is the throat armor. Fyi
Sounds like a test is in order. I understand materials degrade over time, but who among us hasn’t eaten ancient Chef Boyardee and lived to tell the tale? Sometimes expiration dates are just please buy again dates.
It would be interesting to see what a 170 grain bullet from a .30-.30 would do against body armor. It is a common round for hunting and people still have them.
I wouldn’t test rounds right next to each on armor
You should try hunting cartridges a lot of times those loads have super high velocity see what they do to armor
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M193 does pretty good for a round that doesn’t penetrate
A level 3+ steel plate will stop 30.06, and with anti spalling coating your good to go. The problem with soft armor is the back face deformaion is what realy takes you down and can't take multiple hits like a steel level 3+ can, plus the cusion behind the steel plates helps for any deformation. You just showed that the 460 360 grain did more backface damage than the steel did, and that will take you out crushing and breaking ribs, sternum damage and organ failure. Not even a close or fair test at all. More like an ad for MIRA and soft body armor. Try this again at further distance and the results will be much different.
I mean it was fair. Same distance, same rifle, same ammo. One failed, one didn't. And to be fair, the one that failed was not rated to stop the round that penetrated it so it actually over performed. You change any factors you want to get the results you want of course but this is just the test I decided to try out.
@@MagicPrepper The deformation on soft armor that bulges that far back into the chest cavity is a fail in my book anytime. Same as going through...you're dead or way out of the fight.
@@RL-RL Makes sense. I think the deformation from the 5.56 was reasonable on the MIRA plate. But the 460 was definitely a KO.
@@MagicPrepper The steel plate was also from a no name company. AR500 and RTS plates would have eld up to the 5.56 easily. Kinda like comparing a KIA to a Corvette as far as steel goes. Level III but not III+?
You forgot most manufacturers sell 3+ steel which usually stops m193 from a 20”.
I didn't forget, just didn't have III+ at my disposal.
@@MagicPrepper level 4 might still be a better choice anyway if you live in an area with a lot of hunters, who have magnum caliber hunting rifles such as 300 win mag, 338 , etc. these can sometimes pierce 3+ steel.
thank you!
20inch barrels turning training ammo into premium ammo lol
Haha all day long
@@MagicPrepper Hesco L210 plates from T-Rex Arms stop intermediate cartridges, not 308 and 30-06, but are also very affordable. Something to look into for a video perhaps?
Ooooh science!!
Reminder that a plate will stop a bullet, but not stop the transfer of energy
Good point!
m855 rarely passes thru level 3 steel. its almost always stopped. but m193 always will pass thru. the m93 is a faster round. and the steel cor of 855 welds itself to the steel of the plate.
M855 IS armor piercing whereas M193 is not, however M855 was designed before modern ar500 and ceramic plates were the standard, and so M855 is actually designed to defeat more soft armor like the older flak styles, not modern steel and ceramics.
Your first plate... Is it rated for multiple strikes? And what's the "shelf life"
I'd really like some 11x14 steel that stops 556. Any recommendations. Don't think they make ceramic that size.
If I am shooting 450Bushmaster in my home and you have Level 4 I am not going to pop through it but it will still most likely turn you off forever. But anyone that wants to hurt you they are not aiming at center mass they are aiming below near the Groin and when you drop then they delete you. Get get what you can afford because if people want to harm you then your body armor doesn't matter they will find a way. Also once its broke or shot up it can be useless. for followup shots
In the event of being overrun by blue hats, guys around here are stocking up 22 nosler, 22-250, and 243. You should test those rounds
Right now I'm rocking level 3 steel.
Heavier, yes, but is does hold up to multiple hits and costs less.
I'm on a budget, so I can only do so much 😔
What's your twist ratio on your 20inch 5.56?
You don't need any body armor, but it sure is nice to have. Stay light and stay lethal. Body armor is only really practical for a private citizen if they in a vehicle, defending or assaulting a fixed position. Look at chest rigs and battle belts, for lighter, more everyday use. Even an old, Vietnam era Alice belt can rock in the modern world.
What about RMA Defense SRT plates? I bought Guard Dog Level IV but then I learned about RMA Defense's SRT (Special Rifle Threat) plates which are positively buoyant, only weighs 5 lbs. for the *SET* and they stop rifle rounds 😱
I need to see this out of barrel lengths 16" and below
Is the hearing protection you are using axil? Because it's what I use,looks similar .
Yup. I honestly don't like muffs so they work for me.
I get some of the point of this video. But I feel like its definitely missing some aspects. That could lead to some misconceptions including false confidence in their armor packages. 20" M193 versus some of a shorter length barrels with it. But SHTF... I guess itll be iykyk and that will weed out some of the weaker elements.
I have m855a1 for my shtf stash goes 3270 from my 20 inch
Great video ✌️
Stay frosty freedom fighters.
Maybe I missed it but would like to know the make/brand of the steel plates.
Down Range Industries. They make good stuff honestly. To be fair, the lvl III's are not suppose to be able to defeat M193 so I have nothing bad to say against their product.