Small but mighty! 10 new Raspberry Pi CM4 Boards
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- Опубліковано 6 сер 2024
- From the tiniest carrier board to the best Industrial Pis on the market, the Compute Module 4 is powering a revolution in Raspberry Pi uses!
But sometimes it's hard to get one, and we'll talk about that too! Watch to the end to see some of the other boards I'll be testing soon!
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Contents:
00:00 - Radxa Taco NAS
00:31 - Storinator Jr
01:15 - Compute Module Availability
02:42 - Uptime Lab's Tiny MinCab
04:04 - Home Assistant Amber
04:43 - Seeed Studios reTerminal
06:38 - Chipsee AIO
06:57 - Pi 4 TV Stick
07:17 - Zega Mame Gear II
07:35 - EDATEC Industrial Pi
07:44 - RevolutionPi RevPi4
07:55 - Licoln Binns CM4Box Pro
08:04 - Techbase ModBerry Platform
08:25 - Upcoming CM4 Boards - Наука та технологія
Hey Jeff! Please do a video on Home Assistant. I have been thinking about switching to Home Assistant, myself, so I am curious to find out your thoughts.
It looks like Linus from LTT might be starting to build out his new home with Home Assistant too, so there's definitely precedent!
Oh boy that's going to be nuts.
If you do this, would love to hear your pro/con analysis on ZWave vs ZigBee (license model, effectiveness, etc)
@@phpnotasp Yes, I would also like to see a video on Home Assistant, including ZWave vs ZigBee. I have been putting it off, but need to make the decision and commitment but have been leaning toward ZWave which I recall is consistent with Samsung SmartThings.
@@JeffGeerling That is a very significant endorsement.
I would love to see videos on the Home Assistant boards as that is a project I've been considering myself.
Yes of course
That will be awsome
Me as well for the same reason.
YES!!!
I'm running HASSIO on my pi4 absolutely love it!
Please do videos about Home Assistant! I'm currently using Homebridge but I'm planning to do much more soon and I'll probably need to switch to Home Assistant :)
I'm also really happy that the Pi finally seems to be taken seriously in the industry/manufacturing world, where there's been too much expansive and highly proprietary hardware in the past.
Industry, and another area I'm interested in but have seen almost zero developments is medicine/sciences. Many simple devices could be supplanted by open source software on a Pi, and bring costs down substantially.
@@JeffGeerling * angry Big Pharma noises *
Please be aware that the pharma industry has some specialized software development/testing processes that are government mandated in an attempt to keep manufacturing from going awry. I know a company or two that have products in refining, chemical, and petrochem plants that have shied away from Pharma because of these requirements.
@@JeffGeerling There may be a business opportunity there.
@@JeffGeerling I'm CTO of a medical device company, and very interested. I think one of the largest aspects of Pi as a platform that may be an issue for medical (depending on the class of device & risk profile) is the lack of a secure bootloader out of the box. There seem to be some commercial options out there, but given the growing awareness for physical device security, this seems like something that could/should be on the radar for Pi OS (if it's not already - I'm ignorant on the topic).
Yes, I would watch you implement Home Assistant for yourself. Many people that do are not very technical. Im sure you would be more helpful for when i eventually integrate it into my home :) Thanks for doing the hard work!
Thanks for keeping us updated on all these pi projects, Jeff.
Thank you for mention my MinCab :)
Great video! I hope the CM4s become more available for purchase, especially the 8GB lite version without Wi-Fi and BT.
Thank *you* for making it. Really fun projects, hope some of them can get to the stage of production / sale soon!
You're spot-on about the impossibility of sourcing components.
I work at an R&D firm that designs and sells industrial IoT sensors. Our manufacturing partners are currently short on nearly every major component. We seem to be on the more fortunate end of the stick, but we will probably be forced to make some concessions at some point in the near future.
Speaking of short, I really hope that last week's Pi4 shortening was done using a previously-broken board... It still hurts me deeply every time I think about it...
Who's to say it doesn't work better after the operation? :)
I love the variety of cm4 boards coming out, smaller ones are very handy for embedding in a project. I'm making something now and the enclosure is rapidly filling up.
I really liked this overview video of upcoming products.
You gave just enough detail, without making a long video. Good job
Would LOVE to see more videos from you on Pi-based home assistants, consumer streaming/casting entertainment devices, and tablets!
It really makes it hard to work on my own with all of these other CM4 boards out there!
Haha, you're telling me-I've had one design I started noodling on... and then Radxa just went ahead and completed it, months before I could've completed mine :P
Not mad at all, getting into hardware design is a lot harder than you'd think! There are a couple other projects I've been holding up my sleeve too, mostly because it seems like everyone's been finishing up their prototypes in the past month!
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@@JeffGeerling No wonder the Foundation can't handle the demand.
🤯 Same here. These new products within this one video just overloaded my pea brain. As Jeff just mentioned, commercial products are outpacing my projects, so I simply put them on the shelf until the perfect carrier board launches.
Glad to see CM4 boards evolving and mutating into who knows what. But, how can RPi Foundation supply such huge industrial demands, on top of it's core maker market, with ongoing chip shortages?
So many options indeed! But I haven't seen a clustered option with the features I have in mind yet, so I'll just continue designing my own.
This was a great presentation Jeff. The fact that you always include a "Contents" timeline in your notes is so very nice; If more UA-cam channels watched your videos and presentations, they'd be much better. One thing missing that I would like: in the notes, including names of everything you mentioned and real links to their websites really helps. If you want to put sponsored/affiliate links to Amazon too, that's fine. But vendor links is helpful. I'll thought of mentioning too you a while back about massive SSDs on the Pi4, but I see our friends at 45Drives managed that well.
I often do, but in this case the link to the Pi PCI database site has all the relevant links and more (and unclutters the description).
@@JeffGeerling I...completely....missed that link....??? I just went there. GREAT JOB. Thanks, again. I need more sleep. Speaking of which.... :)
@@JeffGeerling Also thanks for adding subtitles!
@@b33thr33kay I always try to get them up before the video posts... I know I use captions a lot, and I'm guessing for some people they're essential.
I’d love to see home assistant stuff, I’ve always been curious about it and I know you’d do a great job making it digestible
lots of respect for putting proper captions on this video!
I love a video on Home Assistant! I'm currently trying to figure it all out!
Jeff you knock out the best content about the CM4! Your videos are awesome to watch even if I don’t plan on working with the CM4. Maybe in the future…
finally!!!! I was waiting for a board like that
NICE
I really love your Videos about the Raspberry!
UA-cam unsubscribed me from you're channel. I just thought you should know. I've been missing you're videos ever since. I'm glad you're still around.
I would love to see videos on the Home Assistant boards
Definitly some vidoes on Home Assistant on the Pi! Your videos are great Jeff!
You've earned my sub. Keep making great videos!
You earned my like. Keep making flattering comments!
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YES! Please do some HA videos! I like your video style and seeing some about HA would be great.
Nice video, thanks :)
Absolutely go forward with some RPI and HA projects!
Every time I watch these videos I see more gadgets I just can't live without.
Huge HA fan here. Once you go down the rabbit hole well yeah!
I'd love to see your take on Home Assistant as well. I'd be happy to jump on a call with you and share my setup, I've been using HA for 3 years now I think. I started on a pi 3
I'm so excited for Pi to come full circle!
I was worried your thumbnail was talking about my endowment for a minute 🤣🤣🤣
Would love to see some home assistant content. I feel like you'll have a more technical view that no-one on UA-cam really comes.
Yes please do some videos on Home Assistant on the Pi! :)
Yes please cover Amber and HomeAssist! I've dreamed of a open-source smart house with no cloud fees!!
Home assistant is so good
Definitely I would like to see Home stuff. I would also want to see how to set up Grafana for visualization.
I'd love to see some Home Assistant content from you. I use that in my home lab and I can imagine you'd have a pretty unique twist on it.
Home Assistance Videos...A big YES
I know this is sorta odd, but I’m rather intrigued by the hardware aspect of the amber. SSD+PoE+CM4 in a case is something I’m kinda looking for atm not for home automation so much but to replace the two similarly configured 3B+ I have running Pi-hole in my home. The amber really ticks all the boxes for me, though, even if this isn’t their intended use case.
(Before anyone asks - I don’t need to replace my current pi’s per se - they are working great. But I do like to tinker…)
The Go-To place for all things Raspberry Pi CM4. Kudos to the Raspberry Pi Foundation, this space seems to be on fire! with no end in sight. Personally I'm not interested in HASS, but it does look like plenty of interest here for a few episodes of setting it up and getting a simple config working with it, which would be fun. Seems like that Seeedstudio HMI might work with it?
Home Assistant: Dutch
Philips: Dutch
The shirt you wore in your previous video: Dutch
Yes, now it's obvious you like the Netherlands :P
Home Assistant is awesome! You have to test it. I would love to see you making videos about HA
Yes, please do Home Assistant videos! I wanted to do a project with it ever since I got to know it
I am running Home Assistant on RPi 4 4GB model and it does pretty good. I am using POE so its a clean install.
That NAS board looks super interesting, depending on price.
Yes, please make videos on Home Assistant! 😊🙏🏻
sick!
Look forward to see more about Home Assistant and zigbee.
Please do a HomeAssistant video! Thank you for putting all these projects out there!
I work for a security integrator. We ran across a access control company recently that uses a raspberry pi as its main ic controller board. It was pretty cool.
Two things I hope to see:
1. A CM4 laptop preferably 12-15 inches across.
2. That the next generation of the compute module is fully backwards compatible and simply just adds one more 100 pin connector to the board. (preferably so that it makes a U shape, as to keep a small form factor and not instantly make board layout a pain due to two parallel connectors sitting besides each other.)
Also looking forward to seeing that interesting board at the beginning. And hope 45 drives actually makes their thing into a product I could have some use out of something like that.
That's what I have been wondering about. A CM4 laptop seems a very logical extension and I would buy one immediately. Would be killer competition to the big brands which are proprietary, locked-in, unupgradable and effectively unrepairable. To upgrade, just drop in a CM5, CM6, .... . Or how about an upgrade kit to rehab old laptops like vintage IBM Thinkpads which were build like tanks. I have a stack of them from the 90's, some still work, some don't.
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So many cool CM4 boards to be excited about. The shortage of CM4 is a concern but hopefully some of these will be compatible with the PINE64 SOQuartz that's aiming to be a compatible drop-in replacement for the CM4.
Videos about the Home Assistant? Yes please!
GO JEFF, GO!
Thanx Jeff. The future is looking very Pi-like .. tasty and sweet!! All the folks studying IT currently could do worse than specialize in the ARM processor, there are even ARM based server cpu's around nowadays. In the future folks (companies) may have to learn to share manufacturing details and get manufacturing capability set up in different countries, so there is less of a 'all the eggs in one basket' scenario. We all live on the same planet don't we .. well most of us.
I would love a video covering Home Assistant on the RPi ...... using z-wave. 👍
I am looking forward to your review of the CutiePi.
Home assistant video would be clutch!
Definitely do some home assistant videos!
Yes to Home Assistant. Very interested.
We'd love to watch some Home assistant on pi! Like CM4 on Yellow, stand alone PI4 etc
The mincab and stick are the ones im most interested in tbh. If you had a board that broke out just the gpio pins you could slap it on top of the pisugar2 and have a portable server quick and easy.
CM4's are like leprechauns right now.. hard to grab .. but also tempt you with the pot o' gold..
Hi Jeff. Really enjoy your videos. Can you make one on how to update the firmware on the CM4? I can't seem to find one and a clear explanation of the process would be helpful.
I'd love to see some home assistant on pi videos!
Hey Jeff!. What's up? Truly impressed with your builds.. Can you pls make a demo of Opnsense on Raspberry Pi 4, or is it doable?
I would love to see you test and review of Home Assistant on all the Pi models (or any SOC) that can support it!
hahha please, do a home assistant video man... All love from Brasil ❤
I need to learn Eagle and start doing monthly PCB spins from AllPCB again. This stuff just looks like so much fun.
Have home assistant running pi 3b, would always enjoy more information and examples.
I would really appreciate that you start Home Assistant because most channels are focussion on the software or the external equipment - with you knowledge of RPs this may bring a lot of opportunities to optimize inside the maine hardware.
For example I have not foun any answer so far whether it is faster to run Amber with eMMC on the module or with the combination of a lite module and a fast M2-SSD
It depends on their board architecture. Generally speaking, the differences in boot time and overall performance isn't huge between eMMC and NVMe (on the Pi, at least), but it is measurable, and everything is a _little_ faster on NVMe SSD. Both are better for performance and longevity than microSD, especially if you don't run one of the few recommended microSD cards (A1 or A2 from reputable vendor).
With NVMe you also have to consider the board architecture. Right now if you have a PCIe bridge / switch, so you can have multiple PCIe devices, then NVMe boot won't work on the Pi :(
I am excited about Turing Pi's new board.
Yes to home assistant videos
that would be REALLY AWESOME to learn about what type of HOME ASSISTANT stuff is being developed for the CM4 - I just picked up my first raspberry pi and it's a CM4 8GB Lite (no emmc or wifi/bt version available - it was the ONLY version available and it was only $80) plus an I/O board the size of the regular pi 4 but it have an nvme on the bottom - but only 2x usb 2.0 :( it will work just fine to learn th4e in's and out's and make a nice 500GB retro gaming box for now - ALL BECAUSE OF YOU PEAKING MY INTERESTS!!! THANKS JEFF!! :D
Please do a video on home assistant. I think it would be a great project! Have you considered doing some ML on your logged data from your air quality sensors and/or some automation for your furnace?
Considered: yes. Done anything about it? Not yet :)
I started out with Home Assistant on a Raspberry Pi 4B running Docker in stalled in an Argon One case. I maxed out around 17 or so containers before the fan started running often. It also may have been the fact that Prometheus was too much. I then switched over to a Home Assistant Blue with HA OS and Supervisor. The Blue is running Docker but I find it takes more effort to run my own containers since HA OS really tries to limit your access to the OS. I did find a way but you are then messing with an OS that isn’t set up for it. It is meant to be a turn-key solution. I have also not found a solution to docker-compose. The up side to Blue is that I am running far more containers on it and producing less heat.
yes please, Home Assistant would be awesome
I'm going to get me one of those HMI's
I am SUPER HAPPY with my HA on Raspberry Pi 4 with SSD. Although only 4GB RAM but it never goes above 35% of MEM usage. CPU when idle is below 10% - only when big things start (i.e. backup or ESPhome compilation) it goes to 100% of CPU - but not for long. And there is NodeRed always active - RPi4 is super capable for a normal house (let say I have about 200 entities).
I would love to se some home assistant, I've been thinking of getting it for my house and would love some in-depth tutorial
Got home assistant to get better integration for tradfri lightswitches with phillips hue bulbs. i instantly sold my hue bridge and havent looked back
Any idea around the timing of the public release of the Radxa Taco NAS board? I am really keen to get my hands on this board. It is the perfect fit for a project I need to build.
That tiny daughterboard is an interesting idea for a cheap cluster, maybe if you had a separate WiFi AP explicitly for this cluster it won’t clog up your regular WiFi and you’ll have enough network bandwidth/consistency to run a cluster that doesn’t have high data requirements
Yes I would to see videos on the Home Assistant
Looking forward to some Home Assistant videos
I'd love to see your take on Home Assistant with Supervision options on Pi versus in a Docker container on Synology.
Techno Tim might have input on placing it into Docker. Checkout his excellent video and channel:
ua-cam.com/video/DK_Gdtn_wvw/v-deo.html
I'm running Homeassistent now for about 2 years. First I used it on a pi, but a few months ago I migrated it to my NAS, which runs on a normal intel cpu
But I migrated it only, because the NAS is always running and using power
yes, do some videos on home assistant :D
Start using home assistant. Yes please. I would love to see you solve the issues the amber is already having with compatibility issues with the Coral.AI m.2 board. I believe you have enough time in the sun to help make a dent.
Jeff - Do a video on the Chipsee AIO, what is offered and especially if you can install it either inside or external in a mechanical keyboard (like an Amiga 500). Some thing I would really appreciate and support.
Even if you don't make videos on it, have a play with home assistant even if it's in a docker container. I think you'll like it a lot
I'd love to see a CM4 Board come out with four to six 2.5 Gigabit Ethernet ports along with an arm version of pFsense! Wow what a nice small hobbiest router that would make.
I read this morning that the Raspberry Pi Foundation just launched a new website to better help the various communities that use the Pi. I also saw that Pop OS is coming to the Pi.
Yes! Home Assistant
I would be keen for a home assistant video!
Great video as always. Anyone else experiencing ~200ms audio lag?
er, video lag - had it backwards
I use home assistant on a pi, and I really like it. I would really like to see a tutorial for using ansible with HA. That would be really helpful, because right now I also run an mqtt server, and some other stuff alongside HA. I would really like to experiment more, but now that all the lights in my house are dependent on this machine working, I’m worried about experimenting, lest I wreck my automation setup.
This might be a big project, and maybe there would be a better way of doing this… but I did a little trial with a qemu raspi VM. I wanted to be able to virtualize the pi to run Ansible plays on it and then dump everything onto an SD card. Is this a good idea? Or is there a simpler way of doing things?
Please test the routing performance of that radxa board. looks like a neat little router.
Videos on home assisstant - yes thank you :-)
Im happy that the prices for pi 4s are finally getting cheaper in germany
Yes, do some Home Assistant videos and how tos. It'll finally motivate me to try it out as as replacement for my openHAB setup.
With that reTerminal, how hard would it be to turn it into a network diagnostic tool? Does the interface allow you to use something like Python to generate data for a gui?
Yes, that's actually one of my possible use cases.