Nintendo Switch: Hard Power Switch Mod
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- Опубліковано 30 вер 2024
- The Nintendo Switch goes flat when it's completely powered off. Nintendo recommending to periodically recharge the battery if the Switch Console it put in storage or the battery can die. Reports of Switch Consoles frying when alternate chargers are plugged in. Then my charger blows up and smoke comes out.
It's time to fix Nintendo's mistakes. I'm installing a hard power switch in my Nintendo Switch. So I can switch the battery off and power off the Switch properly whenever I choose to. That's the power of a hard switch.
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Technical information on the quality of the power circuits in the Switch.
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The Wii U gamepad does this too. Every time I want to use it, I have to charge the battery first. It takes hours to charge too.
I don't have a Wii U so I didn't realise that Nintendo haven't learned to fix this very annoying problem. Thank you for that information.
I know right, and it's wasting charge cycles as well. Should I just remove the battery when I am not using it? How long do I need to keep charging it when it's removed (where I need to plug it back in to charge it again).
The Wii U has its antennas (uses the same protocol as WiFi), always active in order to turn on automatically when the Wii U console is powered, I dislike this design though causing it to be power hungry.
If only the switch had the power saving abilities of the 3ds. I fished my 3ds out of a drawer it'd been in for months and it still had like 75% of it's power. Mind blowing.
The 3DS is an awesome console, I'm very pleased Nintendo added great power management as well.
My 3ds goes from fully charged to zero in one day of standby.
@@NewDimensionsvideo is it an original 3ds or a later iteration/2ds?
My 2ds looses it's battery in a day but my original 3ds lasts months and months in standby.
@@strayiggytv it’s a ‘new’ 3ds xl
Are we talking about powered off or in standby as in close the screen while it’s turned on
A Switch within a Switch
i love how you mounted a switch to your switch, to switch your switch off
Thanks!
I'm not an expert, but I recently heard that to make batteries charge faster they split and tape them together. Each cell needs its own charging circuit, so if tying those two together combined cells then you could end up with a fire eventually. Maybe not soon. Please please investigate this.
Thank you, safety is very important. I did check the continuity and both red wires are connected together for redundancy at each end, see 3:15.
I also saw MKBHD's video recently on fast charging and two batteries side by side is indeed what some devices have these days.
The Switch is however a single cell and can be be disconnected by switching off the two red wires together.
Your message is still important. Anyone doing this sort of work needs to learn about battery safety first, before attempting anything like this.
@@JanusCycle oh thank goodness. I'm so glad to hear that! Thank you for doing your due diligence, I apologize for doubting.
@@SoftQuartz There's no need to apologize. Because double checking things that can be dangerous is the right way of working with this stuff :)
Neat mod and great video as always! I wish more electronics came with a hard-off switch to preserve battery life. I don’t have a Nintendo Switch but I would be very curious to see what the the quiescent current draw is. Standby draw should, in theory, be in the nanoamps if a soft-off solution is implemented. I would guess the Switch is drawing at least a couple of milliamps to deplete the battery so fast in an “off” state. Also love the wordiness about putting a switch inside the Switch at the beginning. Gave me a chuckle!
I could have measured the current draw while I had it open and off. But I just wanted to get this done. Going flat in a couple of days when off, then needing hours to trickle up and full charge again was getting ridiculous. I've since thought it could be something like always charging the controller batteries. Whatever it is, I'm in charge now :)
@@JanusCycle it's strange because my switch definitely lasts a lot longer than that when off. it's the exploitable one as well, I've got an sd card I keep in the case with android on it! diy android tablet haha
Good observation! I keep mine charged often, it's strange that Nintendo overlooked something so common sense as power management, but they added Bluetooth headset support so late i'm not surprised anymore lol
I was considering, is that switch rated for the peak power consumption of the switch? If Nintendo decided to use two wires instead of one, i'm almost sure it was to be able to use two not so thick wires instead of a thick one
I've been hearing that not all Switches have this power drain issue. But some sure do.
I'm more than happy to have a switch on mine. It's my tinkering console with exploitable bootrom :)
I personally would've preferred that they have charge limiting options for people who keep it in the dock all of the time. I feel like that would be much easier on the battery and would improve it's life. Heck, it may even be safer.
@@JanusCycleMy Switch I got day 1 definitely has battery issues. It’s had the battery % sync issues and the battery lasts maybe a few hours in standby. If it’s shut down it’ll be completely depleted in a week
1:06 That's ultrasound welding, not glue. Glue could be dissolved, this must be persuaded through :>
Wow this was a really interesting video
For a month or two I was only occasionally using my Switch, and it was usually only a few days between uses and every time the battery was completely dead.
Unlike my DSi(I don’t think I have it anymore though D:) and my 3DS, their batteries were almost always at the same amount of battery I left them at, and I usually use my 3DS very rarely and I barely have to charge it
I was having the exact same experience. I kept just wanting to sit down and have a game after a long week and instead had to put my Switch on charge for an hour or two. DS and 3DS are awesome.
A switch in a switch to switch the battery on? Amazing.
I have the oled switch and I do the same as you play it every once and a while. Mine also battery dead in a day or two when completely off
This is a shambles that you must do this to your latest Nintendo product. Meanwhile, my PS Vita happily enters sleep state (not even powered off) for months. Powered down, the charge seems to last at least a year? PS Vita was well ahead of it's time. It's still a joy to use today with many indie games available on it.
My Vita also sleeps without battery drain. Not all Switches have this problem, I was unlucky to get one that does.
0:44 Why did you remove the grills from the top of the Switch? and specifically its strange there is one left in place.
I just checked and there are grills at the top of my Switch. I would have to rewatch the video to see what happened there. I'm sorry I don't remember.
@@JanusCycle 0:44 you can see it's missing a bunch of them just has 1 left.
Yo dawg we heard you like switches, so we put a switch in your switch
I have a nintendo switch lite and i also like to play on it from time to time, it's more casual play like you do, but this switch also goes flat after a couple of days which is quite annoying and is putting unnecessary cycles onto the battery. Now that i saw your video, i am thinking of doing the same to my switch, just solder in a switch to really turn off the nintendo switch so that the battery doesn't go flat after 2 days! I also own a PS Vita, this has the same, casual usecase scenario, i love the Vita, but i don't play on it that often, but this device, not even turned off, keeps months of battery, which doesn't drain the battery! Granted i hacked in a 3000mAh samsung smartphone battery inside my Vita, and oh boy this thing has HOURS of screen on time, way longer than the factory estimation. I don't understand why the nintendo switch drains the battery this fast while doing absolutely nothing!
My Vita battery also lasts months. I would have hoped Nintendo had fixed this well before the Lite was released. But this is what we have to do to make them usable.
Hello ! Please can you tell me, does this mean the switch can run with the battery switched off but still inside ? Would be great news, since many ask about the switch running without / with a dead battery. So this would be the solution.
I did try this. I disconnected the battery while plugged into charge, the screen stayed on for a second. But then the Switch turned off. It seems to know there is no battery.
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I promise I will get a proper spudger and use it whenever I'm able. Sometimes though, there's nothing like a steel blade.
Not the same but my brother left his switch for ages turned off wouldn't even charge when he went to use it, it completely shut itself off had to do the reset thing and it repaired itself seems wild that something like that could happen as well..
If the battery is kept uncharged for too long it can also crystallize. So it is recommended to charge every 6 months.
Yo dawg I heard you like switches
Yep, I dig switches :)
I wish I could turn off my switch at a distance like WiiU, PS4 and Xbox one. The on off switch is an improvement.
!!!ATTENTION!!! Your tiny power switch might get hot and might the plastic melt due to resistance.
So far it seems ok.
@@JanusCycle It could be fine if the Amps/hour of the battery is low. Or you might play it for a long time straight and see the effect. Because as far as I know the tiny switch uses a very thin metal sheet for contact. Last time I did to one of my device runs at 5 volt it got melted.
Wait...Am I crazy? My Switch lasts for weeks/months when I fully power it down? Standby, yeah, definitely drains in a few days. This was something I noticed right away with my launch Switch so I make sure to fully power it down when I'm done my session. I can go back like a week later and only have 1 or 2% drain that way. Exactly the same with my OLED model. Seeing this video and reading the comments is blowing my mind and making me feel crazy!
There is much variation with individual Switch units. Some do last weeks on standby, some only hours!
@@JanusCycle This was an eye opener, I never knew that!
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In a putty form? I like the sound of that, thank you!
@@JanusCycle yup, for me it was easy to find both home water leak stuff and automotive leak repair. Both are likely the same, quick set and high working temperature
This dead common mode choke could be bypassed with two jumpers, this would just pass some RF noise into your electrical grid. It might be dead because of other components failing tho
switches, or at least i hope maybe only early ones, are real junk in terms of reliability. there's sellers on ebay and stuff selling like 5 early serial number switches for like $100 with the same issue, a burnt out chip, which is just expensive enough to make them not worth repairing unless you have tons of them.
Can there be problems with always leaving the switch on its dock?
If the battery is always kept at 100% charge that can shorten battery life. Some modern phones will keep the battery at 80% when plugged in overnight and only go up to 100% just before morning.
@@JanusCycle Hm, okay. I haven't ever used my switch long enough in handheld mode at one time for it to matter, but that's still unfortunate. I do like having it charged for whenever I might want to grab it though.
Huh. My Sony PS VITA is running good straight since 2013. Shows you how much good engineering Sony does, like I, as a noob, could open and fix my Vita.
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honestly i should do the same thing to mine, but i’m definitely bot confident enough in my soldering abilities to do this!
This was an amazingly worthwhile mod. Keep practising and you will get there.
great content sir
thank you, I'm glad you are enjoying the channel.
kept waiting for the mistakes that were made, but it turned out perfect
Thank you :)
One thing to note is the switch contacts are thin, the default system has thick two wires to supply large current, this switch will limit that as inside contact will be very thin and offer resistance hence will drain battery if in use , should have checked for contact resistance before soldering, i known this cuz i done similar mistake with phone , it was not able to boot cuz of very thin wires they i doubled the wire contacts to make it work and another phone just used thick wire, why i did cuz charging port got damaged and replacement parts are shit here often from chep low quality instead of std connectors.
sexually transmitted disease connectors?
this is such a useful mod, but i just don't think i could bring myself to cut into my animal crossing switch
I heard you lie the Nintendo switch. So here's a switch for your switch
This is awesome, I might have to do this on my laptop! In the EU there's a law that says electronics need to run at less than half a watt when powered off. It's usually a BIOS option on laptops, and it's the difference between mine lasting a couple days and a full month. I still wish it would be more
Be careful! but there are definitely some devices that need this sort of mod.
But does it fit in the dock?
yep, sure does.
Very useful modification! Also it ended up looking stealthy, good work. Probably need to do it to my switch too
I feel like I had to 'fix' my Switch so it works properly. Thanks for the compliment.
You should show OCing the switch, if you're comfortable
That's a good suggestion. I would like to try that.
I noticed standby is good, but if you're in a game, dead the same or next day.
Interesting, your Switch should be going into standby when the screen is off even when a game is running.
@@JanusCycle it does. I just mean if a game is running and you press power for standby versus having no app/game active and pressing power for standby (and that's with a new battery about 3 months ago)
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Too bad the FW can’t do this. The Steam Deck I have, offers a very low power state. Sure it’s not fully off. But it’s so low, it requires the power adapter to trigger a power on.
I never knew you can mod the Switch.
I remember that people usually mod their 3DS with homebrew and stuff but I haven't seen homebrew on a Switch, very interesting...
Very old Switches like this one can be modded without a mod chip. Newer ones need a mod chip installed and Nintendo makes sure they remain impossible to find.
@@JanusCycle Even so, there's a point where they'll become available once the Switch goes off the market and Nintendo cares less.
In my personal use case that's what's important to me: backing up my games to a Steam Deck or other hardware so I don't lose them!
Very cool video. Such a neat concept!
really clean work! you can barely even tell that you cut into the case and it looks great! also, is this at all mod possible on an oled model? i dont really see why it wouldnt but still would like to ask
The OLED model has less space, but I think it could still be done near that gap.
Will it still charge if you forgot to turn on the battery switch?
Nope, the battery is not connected at all when off.
this should be in every battery-powered device
There's a full power off if you hold the power button
Yes, that's what I use, but it still goes flat in a couple of days. Thank you for making sure I know that though.
@@JanusCycle yeah that definitely sounds faulty. The only time your battery should drain that fast is being on Cold .
@@radeononi758 If my Switch was faulty then it no longer is :) and I'm still not happy with the way Nintendo engineered the power circuits in the Switch.
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Would it be possible to use those touch switches?
Take my like I can't relate but still! Good content.
Hey thank you.
@@JanusCycle You're welcome I hope it works out for you with your switch!
Also do you have any issues docking it now?
The dock is still ok, the new switch is small enough to not get in the way.
@@JanusCycle Good!
Your switch looks tiny
could be the angle
@@JanusCycle you have big hands
very nice!
thanks
Wait but can you still
Dock the switch?
Yes, the new power switch has a low enough profile.
Then it’s great
9:07 Is that Micro SD card OK?
Switch the switch to a switch that will switch it off 😂😂😂😂