I recently sold all my DSLR gear after getting disillusioned with photography. Then bought a used G2 (£75 incl kit lens) which was my first mirror less experience and enjoy going out and taking pics again.
I sold my G2 recently. I never saw its 12mp as a limitation. My Canon G9, iPhone, Nikon D700: all 12mp. Big enough to,print, but still small file size. Good video.
I have a G2 and I love it. I bought it about a year ago. I think I spent around $80USD with the olympus 40-150mm lens. I sold the lens for $60, so, I technically got the camera for $20USD. I haven't used it as much due to my other cameras, but I want to use it more
I enjoy shooting with my Olympus E-300 more than my 5DMk.III or my Panasonic GX85, and it still produces beautiful photos. Just find what you like/have fun shooting with
love this type of content! Also love how you lead up to that last bit sounding like you were going to recommend a higher resolution camera, only to wham that video link in xD
I've had my G5 since it was new and it's a keeper. Lovely cuddly metal body, the G6 though was tacky plastic and replaced asap with the G7. The G5 was not my first MFT, that was the E-PL1. The G5 takes perfectly good photos although they can look a bit fuzzy on the low-res monitor and LVF. This can make MF a bit hit or miss, it does not have focus-peaking. G1, G10, G2, G3, there was no G4, G5, ...
I have used a variety of digital cameras throughout this century, and have been pleased with most. I had been using a DSLR since 2012, but found it awkward, particularly on the street or at conferences, church gatherings etc. I also had a couple of Nikon 1 cameras, and found that not only did they work quite adequately under ordinary night time lighting in shopping centres and recreational spots, but I could fit the camera and lenses equivalent to 28-80 and 80-300 in my two jacket pockets. And 10 MP was certainly more than adequate as long as I didn't want to do an extreme crop. After all, we did OK with 3 or 5 MP for years. I have recently moved to MFT and though the GX8 isn't really pocketable, it can certainly hang around my neck with the long telephoto in a shirt pocket. It's hard to see too many downsides if you are not a National Geographic photographic explorer or a photojournalist specialising in rock concerts.
I was looking for buying a lumix 14 42 and ended finding a G2 + 14 42 cheaper than the lens alone. At first I was like “ok, a free camera sounds pretty good” and when I got my hand on it I was really surprised with the image quality, specially in good lighting. Really fun to use this camera
I'm rocking the Lumix GH4 that I got for $300. Most lenses I have cost as much or more than the body. I desperately want the GH7 though for stabilization, focus, and sensor quality but in the mean time I'm learning to get the most out of what I have.
Oh George!!!! You made me go look and it’s so cheap… I’m still an early M43 user and just getting to grips with a GX1 I picked up recently. But I do wish it had an articulating screen - not for vlogging, for low/high shooting
My go to pocket camera is the Lumix GX85 which is only 16mp. But 12mp is still plenty even in 2024. My day job is shooting real estate drone photography and I've chosen to use the DJI mini 3 because it's tiny, quite and doesn't draw too much attention. It's only 12mp and clients have never had an issue. They're printing huge signs with these shots. The drone actually has a 48mp pixel-shift mode and the one time I used it my clients said, "hey, these files are way too big." Lesson learned.
I'm reversing in gear dramatically... I found me doing x4 times more photos, and having more fun, and interesting results, with a simple lumix TZ or FX on the pocket instead of the mirrorless... also in some ambients with dust, to much humidity, too much sun, easy falling... because you don't need to think to much on having care of the gear, and for me thats a lot of stress down. Also you don't have to care too much on the technical perfection and focus, because it doesn't achieve that anyways xDD
This video sums up my feelings on the Olympus EM5 Mark II (That I got for $150 due to a small issue with the EVF), as that camera fills the same niche for me. I have a few modern Mirrorless cameras (The Nikon Z5 and Z50 along with the Panasonic G9) but the Olympus E-M5 is my go to small and fun camera when I just want to go out and shoot and get some nice clean photos without a lot of thought and not pixel peeping for perfection.
Kinda happy I caught this early enough to grab the discount on presets 😅 been trying before but missed out. Still holding onto my original EM-1 from 2012. Was my first "proper" camera I bought as an adult.
The G1 K (kit) came with the highly rated 14-45 mm . . . btw I think the G3 is also a valid option . 16Mp and does not have the surface coating that eventually gets sticky on the G1
G2 was my first Digital ILC, I got it for a sale price on Tesco website. Felt so so good in the hand. The materials it is made from and the useful dials. I used it with vintage manual lenses too. I still use a G5 when travelling for the lightness and ease of use. The G2 has better dials buttons, material and ergonomics though. Great camera.
I also got mine new from Tesco, in store when they were on clearance many years ago. I remember that I paid £199 for it (including the kit zoom lens). Must get it out and start to use it again, for a bit of fun
Thanks for this. I have the Panasonic G5 16 megapixel version and it cost me the equivalent of eighty British pounds and it came with the collapsible 14-42 megapixel x lens. Is there more fine detail in the Sony 12 megapixel photos than with the Panasonic G2 or is there not much difference ?
Panasonic is awesome! They have definitely earned my respect. Panasonic listens to what people tell them and implements it. Their cameras aren't ridiculously priced, and Panasonic adds new features to their cameras instead of compromising. While Sony cameras are compelling, Panasonic is my first choice, only then followed by Sony. Yes, there are other popular digital camera manufacturers out there, but they aren't doing anything exciting like Panasonic! The only Canon camera I've looked at is the XF605 camcorder, but my Panasonic X1500 camcorder has all the main features for two and a half times cheaper!
I am currently shooting on an old Pentax K DSLR from before 2010. I love the camera but it real heavy, doesnt have optical stabilization and so on, struggles in low light with a sensitivit of max 1600. Being DSLR you rarerly have the comfort of getting a well exposed photo on the move from the first time. And the resolution is not that big, given the numbers today. I think it is either 12MP or 16MP.
Actually the video from the G2 look better to me on my iPad. Your standard video looks way too flat, and weird color. I’d take that G2 clip anytime it has a good expressive look
@@GeorgeHolden It doesn’t matter, all that matters is the final product. If you want the best look in your studio (like both of the shots were) do it with lights, no amount of DR will fix lack of good lighting, in fact, your modern studio shot proves in can result in worse results if not dealt with it properly. I’m sorry I don’t want to be mean, just look again at your modern studio headshot, where are the shadows, where is the definition, where is the emphasis on what our eyes should be drawn ? It’s all a flat mess.
Wait wait wait. What was that small full frame? RX1R? Because I am still dealing with just the tiniest bit of doubt floating through my head. I've got a Fuji X-T5, and that's APS-C and 40mp. I've got the Ricoh GRIIIx for my pocket snapper. Clearly a swell rig. BUT, My two debates: should I go FF like ..I dunno, a Nikon Zf? I'm a hobby boy. I >do< shoot some low light/indoor event stuff, but few and far between (and I have the add-on flash for my X-T5). With the 40mp, I'm using the extra for cropping. (Boy, do I crop.) On the "pocket snapper," the only thing at ALL (besides not weather proof) that I don't like about the GRIIIx is no zoom. And that's what always gets me sniffing around your and Emily's posts. I think, "If only, I could have one of those baby m43 zooms, THEN, life would be magical." I clearly have two great, maybe even sought-after cameras. Should I shut up? Or is there any world where I should think about swapping those two?
RX1 was the original. RX1R was the 2nd generation. Don’t know the improvements. RX1Rii has the pop up EVF. I have the XT4 and love it. The IBIS, 24MP (maybe 26?) and larger battery. Own the iiix. Love the size. It typically underexposes and I figh with the exposure controls to correct this. Marvelous B&W settings. Very contrasty and deep blacks. Still trying to get use to no EVF. Mask On Nurse Marty (Ret)
You can get a Lumix g6 for under $100. It has the same sensor as a GH2 but with a better processor. The video features of the G6 aren't as good as a GH2. On the other hand it is lighter and handles better. I love mine even though it is 11 years old!
I've had a G1 and a G5. To be be honest, my Lumix GF5 compact has it all over both of them. No viewfinder, but the image quality is much better, video too.
I've been looking for a G1 for a while now, just for old times sake. Seems had to find a working example at a reasonable price. At least here in the US.
@@jonlouis2582 prices have gone crazy lately.and that goes for everything 2nd hand related to photography! Probably because buying new gear has become impossible for many.
@@GeorgeHolden no, Sony is just the apple of cameras, offering dated junk over and over. But unlike Apple fans we Sony cultists know Sony's flaws... or so I believe.
Guys I just checked. There are plenty of G2s available on Ebay in the 100-150 dollar price range. So no one can comment that there are none in the price he mentioned. But still get yours quick as the stock may end in a few hours😂
It doesn’t prove anything, I have 2 m43 cameras, image quality nothing compared to canon sensors, even when using the same lens But I like them for video
Is it me or do videos like these from influencers cause the price of these old cameras to skyrocket? Before it was just Kendal Jenner that had this effect.
@@GeorgeHolden Gx85 since its lighter than the olympus but the olympus is better in weather sealing. Both are the same size but due to the weight and startup time i prefer the gx 85 😁
@@PekaVuite was in NYC three weeks ago for my annual week of street photography. I saw a Craigslist GX85 listing for a GX85 with battery and charger for $300. I already own one. The price was so compelling I now own two. GAS attack. Mask On Nurse Marty (Ret)
Owned the G3 for a while (with the 14-42mm) and while I liked the IQ I got out of an inexpensive camera, I really hated it's cheap plastiky built and the protruding viewfinder which made it bulky to carry around! Really wished it didn't have any at all.
@@GeorgeHolden tell you the truth I really liked the Samsung nx300 (+ 30mm f2 pancake prime) I replaced it with! IQ is on another level and that lens is just amazing! My only issue now (getting greedy) is that it's *almost* pocketable; I mean it fits in my jacket but I now wish I had something that would fit in my jeans pocket. After all in Greece we only get to wear jackets 4-5 months a year so you need something else to carry it around for the rest of the time! But it's probably just GAS....
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I recently sold all my DSLR gear after getting disillusioned with photography. Then bought a used G2 (£75 incl kit lens) which was my first mirror less experience and enjoy going out and taking pics again.
damn hoep ur having fun bro
I sold my G2 recently. I never saw its 12mp as a limitation. My Canon G9, iPhone, Nikon D700: all 12mp. Big enough to,print, but still small file size. Good video.
I have a G2 and I love it. I bought it about a year ago. I think I spent around $80USD with the olympus 40-150mm lens. I sold the lens for $60, so, I technically got the camera for $20USD. I haven't used it as much due to my other cameras, but I want to use it more
I enjoy shooting with my Olympus E-300 more than my 5DMk.III or my Panasonic GX85, and it still produces beautiful photos. Just find what you like/have fun shooting with
love this type of content! Also love how you lead up to that last bit sounding like you were going to recommend a higher resolution camera, only to wham that video link in xD
I've had my G5 since it was new and it's a keeper. Lovely cuddly metal body, the G6 though was tacky plastic and replaced asap with the G7. The G5 was not my first MFT, that was the E-PL1. The G5 takes perfectly good photos although they can look a bit fuzzy on the low-res monitor and LVF. This can make MF a bit hit or miss, it does not have focus-peaking.
G1, G10, G2, G3, there was no G4, G5, ...
I have used a variety of digital cameras throughout this century, and have been pleased with most. I had been using a DSLR since 2012, but found it awkward, particularly on the street or at conferences, church gatherings etc.
I also had a couple of Nikon 1 cameras, and found that not only did they work quite adequately under ordinary night time lighting in shopping centres and recreational spots, but I could fit the camera and lenses equivalent to 28-80 and 80-300 in my two jacket pockets. And 10 MP was certainly more than adequate as long as I didn't want to do an extreme crop. After all, we did OK with 3 or 5 MP for years.
I have recently moved to MFT and though the GX8 isn't really pocketable, it can certainly hang around my neck with the long telephoto in a shirt pocket.
It's hard to see too many downsides if you are not a National Geographic photographic explorer or a photojournalist specialising in rock concerts.
I was looking for buying a lumix 14 42 and ended finding a G2 + 14 42 cheaper than the lens alone. At first I was like “ok, a free camera sounds pretty good” and when I got my hand on it I was really surprised with the image quality, specially in good lighting. Really fun to use this camera
It gets almost perfect with good glass like the pana 20mm
I'm rocking the Lumix GH4 that I got for $300. Most lenses I have cost as much or more than the body. I desperately want the GH7 though for stabilization, focus, and sensor quality but in the mean time I'm learning to get the most out of what I have.
Very fair, I'd say either the GH7 or G9II are both insane
Totally agree (I also got a used Lumix G5 with kit lens for CAD$70 last year.) Fun to use!
GF1, GF2 and G2 were the most fun cameras to use for me and I don't know why.
Oh George!!!! You made me go look and it’s so cheap… I’m still an early M43 user and just getting to grips with a GX1 I picked up recently. But I do wish it had an articulating screen - not for vlogging, for low/high shooting
I also revived my parents' GX1, learning into photography with this $200 compact camera and the lens kit
Why not have both! 😅
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My go to pocket camera is the Lumix GX85 which is only 16mp. But 12mp is still plenty even in 2024. My day job is shooting real estate drone photography and I've chosen to use the DJI mini 3 because it's tiny, quite and doesn't draw too much attention. It's only 12mp and clients have never had an issue. They're printing huge signs with these shots. The drone actually has a 48mp pixel-shift mode and the one time I used it my clients said, "hey, these files are way too big." Lesson learned.
I'm reversing in gear dramatically... I found me doing x4 times more photos, and having more fun, and interesting results, with a simple lumix TZ or FX on the pocket instead of the mirrorless... also in some ambients with dust, to much humidity, too much sun, easy falling... because you don't need to think to much on having care of the gear, and for me thats a lot of stress down. Also you don't have to care too much on the technical perfection and focus, because it doesn't achieve that anyways xDD
I really appreciate your takes on older gear.
This video sums up my feelings on the Olympus EM5 Mark II (That I got for $150 due to a small issue with the EVF), as that camera fills the same niche for me. I have a few modern Mirrorless cameras (The Nikon Z5 and Z50 along with the Panasonic G9) but the Olympus E-M5 is my go to small and fun camera when I just want to go out and shoot and get some nice clean photos without a lot of thought and not pixel peeping for perfection.
Kinda happy I caught this early enough to grab the discount on presets 😅 been trying before but missed out. Still holding onto my original EM-1 from 2012. Was my first "proper" camera I bought as an adult.
Thank you so much for your purchase! Glad you caught them this time! And that's awesome, I think that was the first MFT camera I ever used years ago
The G1 K (kit) came with the highly rated 14-45 mm .
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btw I think the G3 is also a valid option .
16Mp and does not have the surface coating that eventually gets sticky on the G1
G2 was my first Digital ILC, I got it for a sale price on Tesco website. Felt so so good in the hand. The materials it is made from and the useful dials. I used it with vintage manual lenses too. I still use a G5 when travelling for the lightness and ease of use. The G2 has better dials buttons, material and ergonomics though. Great camera.
I also got mine new from Tesco, in store when they were on clearance many years ago. I remember that I paid £199 for it (including the kit zoom lens). Must get it out and start to use it again, for a bit of fun
I have been dabbling with these older cameras for some time now, my GF2 and G2 are often in my camera bag and as you say, are a joy to use.
That's great to hear!
The main camera I use is the G2 with the 14-45mm lens, absolutely love shooting with it.
Nice film! Good photos! When you have some vision, you'll grab camera and do what you want!
@0:37 "Eee! 'E's just photoed us!"
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Twice! @6:07
My first digital camera was the Olympus E-500. Lovely camera.
Thanks for this. I have the Panasonic G5 16 megapixel version and it cost me the equivalent of eighty British pounds and it came with the collapsible 14-42 megapixel x lens. Is there more fine detail in the Sony 12 megapixel photos than with the Panasonic G2 or is there not much difference ?
I’m still having so much more fun on my CampSnap camera than any of my Sony or Panasonic mirrorless.
That's awesome! I had one for a while but didn't enjoy it as much as I'd hoped
Panasonic is awesome! They have definitely earned my respect. Panasonic listens to what people tell them and implements it. Their cameras aren't ridiculously priced, and Panasonic adds new features to their cameras instead of compromising. While Sony cameras are compelling, Panasonic is my first choice, only then followed by Sony. Yes, there are other popular digital camera manufacturers out there, but they aren't doing anything exciting like Panasonic! The only Canon camera I've looked at is the XF605 camcorder, but my Panasonic X1500 camcorder has all the main features for two and a half times cheaper!
Lumix ahead of the curve 👀🔥🔥
I am currently shooting on an old Pentax K DSLR from before 2010. I love the camera but it real heavy, doesnt have optical stabilization and so on, struggles in low light with a sensitivit of max 1600. Being DSLR you rarerly have the comfort of getting a well exposed photo on the move from the first time. And the resolution is not that big, given the numbers today. I think it is either 12MP or 16MP.
12MP is still plenty for social media!
Actually the video from the G2 look better to me on my iPad. Your standard video looks way too flat, and weird color. I’d take that G2 clip anytime it has a good expressive look
My standard video can be graded to look like that but since detail and dynamic range is nice to have, the G2 can't be changed 😅
@@GeorgeHolden It doesn’t matter, all that matters is the final product. If you want the best look in your studio (like both of the shots were) do it with lights, no amount of DR will fix lack of good lighting, in fact, your modern studio shot proves in can result in worse results if not dealt with it properly. I’m sorry I don’t want to be mean, just look again at your modern studio headshot, where are the shadows, where is the definition, where is the emphasis on what our eyes should be drawn ? It’s all a flat mess.
@@d3xmeister Thanks Mr. Deakins, if you have some shots of yours in a studio I'd love to take a look!
Wait wait wait. What was that small full frame? RX1R?
Because I am still dealing with just the tiniest bit of doubt floating through my head. I've got a Fuji X-T5, and that's APS-C and 40mp. I've got the Ricoh GRIIIx for my pocket snapper. Clearly a swell rig.
BUT, My two debates: should I go FF like ..I dunno, a Nikon Zf? I'm a hobby boy. I >do< shoot some low light/indoor event stuff, but few and far between (and I have the add-on flash for my X-T5). With the 40mp, I'm using the extra for cropping. (Boy, do I crop.) On the "pocket snapper," the only thing at ALL (besides not weather proof) that I don't like about the GRIIIx is no zoom.
And that's what always gets me sniffing around your and Emily's posts. I think, "If only, I could have one of those baby m43 zooms, THEN, life would be magical."
I clearly have two great, maybe even sought-after cameras. Should I shut up? Or is there any world where I should think about swapping those two?
RX1 was the original. RX1R was the 2nd generation. Don’t know the improvements. RX1Rii has the pop up EVF.
I have the XT4 and love it. The IBIS, 24MP (maybe 26?) and larger battery. Own the iiix. Love the size. It typically underexposes and I figh with the exposure controls to correct this. Marvelous B&W settings. Very contrasty and deep blacks. Still trying to get use to no EVF.
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I’ve recently purchased a G1 and a G3. Both were very inexpensive.
You can get a Lumix g6 for under $100. It has the same sensor as a GH2 but with a better processor. The video features of the G6 aren't as good as a GH2. On the other hand it is lighter and handles better. I love mine even though it is 11 years old!
I've had a G1 and a G5. To be be honest, my Lumix GF5 compact has it all over both of them. No viewfinder, but the image quality is much better, video too.
What about Olympus EPL3?
I've been looking for a G1 for a while now, just for old times sake. Seems had to find a working example at a reasonable price. At least here in the US.
Yep that was my experience too, the G2 though seems to be readily available
@@jonlouis2582 prices have gone crazy lately.and that goes for everything 2nd hand related to photography! Probably because buying new gear has become impossible for many.
crazy how a 2010 Panasonic camera is still using better screens than sony alpha mid-high end cameras now.
It is quite silly
@@GeorgeHolden no, Sony is just the apple of cameras, offering dated junk over and over. But unlike Apple fans we Sony cultists know Sony's flaws... or so I believe.
I have the G3 and even if the sensor its a 16 megapixel it feels like a downgrade from this one!
Image comparison at 5:10 is remarkable.
Who’s that handsome devil in the photos 👀😂🙌🏻
I have a Lumix G2, let's see what I can do with it.
Guys I just checked. There are plenty of G2s available on Ebay in the 100-150 dollar price range. So no one can comment that there are none in the price he mentioned. But still get yours quick as the stock may end in a few hours😂
Around 200 aud on ebay with no lens
I just ordered a LUMIX Gx7
Well at themoment is going for at least $150+ on eBay and $267 on Etsy, not sure where and when you bought it
Purchased from MPB, there's many going for £59 here or $77 in USD
@@GeorgeHolden Thnx a lot just saw the red $59 sans the lens
But again who wants walk around with a tomato red camera lol
@@GeorgeHoldenonly 1 now
that deep depth of field makes it the same image as a phone... so why bother?
This or a smartphone ?
this
Regarding the video comparison -- the video from the G2 was far better....
Plz tell me you're trolling 😂 contrast and noisy = good?
It doesn’t prove anything, I have 2 m43 cameras, image quality nothing compared to canon sensors, even when using the same lens
But I like them for video
Why spend more money? Becuase cameras today are superior in ALL ways.
Is it me or do videos like these from influencers cause the price of these old cameras to skyrocket? Before it was just Kendal Jenner that had this effect.
No wonder the G7 is still relevant today, all thanks to it's predecessors
G7 is a legit camera even 10 years later
Stop it. Stop it. I already want a GM1, a GM5, a GX8, an E-M10 and a Pen F. I don't need a G2 on the list.
You Dont need all that oldschool garbage with ancient tech. There You go😊
The G's and GF's are the cheapest you can buy
They are and they're worth much more than they sell for imo
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Congrats 🥳
@@GeorgeHolden thanks :D also love your videos I currently own Olympus Omd Em5 and Lumix Gx85 i like the portability and usability of the MFT system
Very nice! Which do you prefer between the EM5 and the GX85?
@@GeorgeHolden Gx85 since its lighter than the olympus but the olympus is better in weather sealing. Both are the same size but due to the weight and startup time i prefer the gx 85 😁
@@PekaVuite was in NYC three weeks ago for my annual week of street photography. I saw a Craigslist GX85 listing for a GX85 with battery and charger for $300. I already own one. The price was so compelling I now own two. GAS attack.
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Owned the G3 for a while (with the 14-42mm) and while I liked the IQ I got out of an inexpensive camera, I really hated it's cheap plastiky built and the protruding viewfinder which made it bulky to carry around! Really wished it didn't have any at all.
I guess then a GX or GF would suit you more!
I love the GF-1 so much, I bought two!@@GeorgeHolden
@@GeorgeHolden tell you the truth I really liked the Samsung nx300 (+ 30mm f2 pancake prime) I replaced it with! IQ is on another level and that lens is just amazing!
My only issue now (getting greedy) is that it's *almost* pocketable; I mean it fits in my jacket but I now wish I had something that would fit in my jeans pocket. After all in Greece we only get to wear jackets 4-5 months a year so you need something else to carry it around for the rest of the time!
But it's probably just GAS....