Indoor Boom Microphones: Oktava MK-012, RODE NT5, Audio Technica AT4053b

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  • @JillLynnBeautyTherapy
    @JillLynnBeautyTherapy 4 роки тому +37

    This was EXCELLENT...and thank you for having a female voice to compare! I don't see any other channels offering that comparison, and find it incredibly helpful.

  • @curtisjudd
    @curtisjudd  4 роки тому +141

    **NOTE** The audio for the polar pattern samples has been removed because the developer of the free app I used to play back white noise from my phone made a copyright claim. On all of my newer videos, I play back white noise of my own making so that this doesn't happen again. Apologies for that and lesson learned.

    • @remektekmedia6641
      @remektekmedia6641 4 роки тому +58

      I expect the locksmith will lodge a copyright claim against the key jangling.

    • @curtisjudd
      @curtisjudd  4 роки тому +24

      Haha! They can go pound sand. ;-)

    • @vincentoliver
      @vincentoliver 4 роки тому +9

      I guess he must have claimed to be the composer too, maybe tell him that his noise was a bit too flat for Bb major.

    • @curtisjudd
      @curtisjudd  4 роки тому +25

      @@vincentoliver Ugh, I'm pretty sure they'd say it was just the app that was the issue. "Sorry for promoting your free app," is my thinking.

    • @lumpyfishgravy
      @lumpyfishgravy 4 роки тому +10

      Hilarious! The definition of white noise is randomness (mathematically proved with auto-correlation). I guess there's no point asking for money back LOL.

  • @Desmond8709
    @Desmond8709 3 роки тому +2

    Thank you 3 years later this video was right on time for me

  • @LeyzarGamingViews
    @LeyzarGamingViews Рік тому +1

    I was looking to upgrade for my AT2035 to one of these.
    I'm a UA-camr and I also do streaming. I want the mic off cam which is why don't want a dynamic mic.
    The room is not treated, echoey and there are PLENTY of keyboard and mouse clicks as you would expect.
    Give these variables, could you recommend something?
    I'm leaning towards the nt5.

    • @curtisjudd
      @curtisjudd  Рік тому

      Sure, NT5 is worth considering for your situation. Snazzy Labs uses that mic.

    • @LeyzarGamingViews
      @LeyzarGamingViews Рік тому

      @@curtisjudd Thank You

  • @carlosq00
    @carlosq00 7 років тому +5

    I enjoy the full sound that the AT4053b offers and I was able to hear a bump in the treble response on the Oktava but to my ears the sound of the Oktava lost quite a bit of detail when compared to the AT4053b. Thanks Curtis always helpful!

    • @curtisjudd
      @curtisjudd  7 років тому

      Thanks Carlos! Appreciate the perspective on the AT vs Oktava!

  • @flyingsquirrel3271
    @flyingsquirrel3271 7 років тому +10

    Thank you very much for this comparison. It's very cool that you normalized the loudness accordingly to EBU-R128!
    For me the Oktava sounded best on the male voice but the NT5 on the female. The Oktava also sounds great on the female voice while the NT5 doesn't sound so well on the male. The AT sounds pretty good with both voices, but if I had to pick one of the three, it would definitely be the Oktava!

    • @curtisjudd
      @curtisjudd  7 років тому

      +Flying Squirrel thanks for the feedback!

  • @Miniac
    @Miniac 7 років тому +6

    Just listened to the mics, here's my run down of them. Listening on a laptop with Audio Technica MKH-50X headpohes:
    Female: No difference between the Audio Technica and NT5. The Oktava has more "presence", sounded more powerful.
    Male: Audio Technica has more low end, compared to the NT5 which seems to have everything at equal levels. Oktava again has a little more power.
    Honestly they sound very similar, I think I'd pick the NT5 out of the 3 because of price but also because of how the Oktava doesn't do well when on a boom (according to other sources).
    EDIT: Oh, you addressed the handling noise issue of the Oktava. Cool!

    • @curtisjudd
      @curtisjudd  7 років тому

      Yes, I heard that a lot too, but I suspect some of those people were trying to boom with a mic clip rather than a shock mount. It is still somewhat sensitive as I still see some very low frequency waveforms when the mic moves, but it still seems usable.

    • @The-Logician
      @The-Logician 4 роки тому

      @@curtisjudd I suspect that keeping a 120 or 160 hz cutoff on the recorder would eliminate that entirely. I'm not that good of a boom operator yet (still learning), and need to rely on the cutoff on my Mixpre-3 II to eliminate the boom handling noise, even with a shock mount and higher end microphones. (My boom pole is not the best to begin with...) I just ordered an Oktava MK-012 with 3 capsule kit for improving my indoor dialog game... will back out the noisy Samson CO2's that I currently have been using for indoor dialog.

    • @curtisjudd
      @curtisjudd  4 роки тому +1

      @@The-Logician 👍 120 or 160Hz can be a bit high for men's voices, removing a bit of the low end. I've come to believe that a good shock mount is an invaluable investment.

    • @pibepuga
      @pibepuga 3 роки тому +1

      ​@@The-Logician little advise: never use a cutoff above 120 hz! (even 120 for a male voice can be too much probably) later on dialogue editor and re-recording mixer in post will hate you! It's more likely that you use a shock mount or expect the handling noises to be removed later in post (it's actually easy) than rolling off that much of the low end in the dialogues.

  • @tech.inspector
    @tech.inspector 3 роки тому +1

    Well this is just great, well done! Directly decided to buy the Oktava + Rode SM4-R Shockmount!
    BTW: Copyright claim on white noise? Really? UA-cam....what have you become...

    • @curtisjudd
      @curtisjudd  3 роки тому

      Thanks and happy recording!

  • @Layarion
    @Layarion 4 роки тому +8

    3:43 i have no idea what's going on, but after 1 second the white-noise stopped playing. completely, for all but the Oktava.

    • @curtisjudd
      @curtisjudd  4 роки тому +27

      Copyright claim from the maker of the app I used so the audio white noise was removed. I had no idea an app developer could copyright white noise generated by their app.

    • @costinvaly1
      @costinvaly1 4 роки тому +1

      @@curtisjudd LOOOOOL, that's so idiotic from them. You can copyright note patterns that make up a melody as an intellectual property, but a general randomized frequency that's relatively equal all across the high end area of the spectrum? It's like someone would use " black " in an app then copyright it as their unique color, LOL.

    • @curtisjudd
      @curtisjudd  4 роки тому

      @vancian1970 Hahaha! Best roast of the day!

  • @davidpossien3061
    @davidpossien3061 3 роки тому +2

    The AT405B handled sibilance much better than the others. However, I like the idea of getting a matched pair of Oktavas to also record instruments. Great review! Thanks!

  • @BlackWindPro
    @BlackWindPro 7 років тому +1

    I have the Oktava mic with both the hyper and cardiod capsules and have been using it for 5 years now and for the price you can't beat it. I usually let my sound guy run the sound with their equipment now of days, but when I'm run and gunning this is my first that I go too.

    • @MarkGFL
      @MarkGFL 7 років тому

      Did you find much difference in the sound between the cardioid and hyper capsules? I have the Oktava with the hyper and I find it has too much bass response.

    • @BlackWindPro
      @BlackWindPro 7 років тому

      I'm usually always on the hyper unless I'm doing a two shot indoors. I haven't noticed a big difference except the exclusion of sound that I don't want, but I would think you'd probably hear a little more bass since the direction is not spread out as much and extends farther. My only negative with the mic is when I use my rode blimp for it, the short round one, it barely fits on my shock mount but not a game changer and if I have somebody booming and moving around, I usually revert to AT875R. Most of the time however I leave it to my sound guy and his equipment.

    • @curtisjudd
      @curtisjudd  7 років тому

      Good info, thanks Joseph!

  • @34Kuro
    @34Kuro 3 роки тому +1

    I found it pretty easy to spot the difference between these mics when listening to the male voice. On the female voice, I could not really pick a "best" one. I really like the Oktava but I heard on another video of yours (or was it this one) that it's not going so well with handling noise.

    • @curtisjudd
      @curtisjudd  3 роки тому +3

      Agreed - the Oktava is not the best on a hand-held boom pole unless you use a good shock mount and operate with care.

    • @34Kuro
      @34Kuro 3 роки тому

      @@curtisjudd Thank you Curtis. Your videos are always useful to me

  • @TheNorliss
    @TheNorliss 7 років тому +5

    Hey Curtis - great video as always. Were I not on as tight a budget, doubtless I'd have bought the AT4053b but ended up buying the Oktava MK-012-02 set (including the cardioid, hyper-cardioid & omni capsules) last year. Given the price, it's pleasing to see how well it stacks up against the competition!

    • @curtisjudd
      @curtisjudd  7 років тому +2

      Yes, I was surprised!

    • @rafirafal
      @rafirafal 2 роки тому +1

      Czy uzyles kiedys tlumik -10db do glosu czytanego ksiazke?, czy byl kiedys potrzebny wykorzystany tlumik 10db ?

  • @DroiMedia
    @DroiMedia 7 років тому +7

    Great comparison, Curtis! (side note: would love to see something like this with maybe something like sound effects / foley in mind)

  • @PoppyDog
    @PoppyDog Рік тому

    Thanks!

  • @scottslotterbeck3796
    @scottslotterbeck3796 7 років тому +3

    I absolutely LOVE my AT 4053b. It's wonderful. I do production sound for independent films.

    • @curtisjudd
      @curtisjudd  7 років тому +5

      Me too! I now have a Schoeps CMC641 but I refuse to get rid of my AT4053b. Such a great mic for the money.

  • @charlesisrecording
    @charlesisrecording 7 років тому +1

    I have an Oktava with a Hyper capsule, it performs great! Also it comes with a -10db capsule and you can get the omni and cardioid capsules and you can get a hi pass filter capsule as well

    • @curtisjudd
      @curtisjudd  7 років тому +2

      Thanks Carlos, yes, I think the hi-pass is a good idea since I notice that the capsule tends to produce some very low frequency waves. Seems like it is very sensitive to movement. bus sounds quite good!

    • @charlesisrecording
      @charlesisrecording 7 років тому

      Curtis Judd I really like how it sounds and you are right about that extra warmth on the signal, the next mic I intend to get for indoor dialogue will be the Schoeps... once I have enough $ for it

  • @IgnatSolovey
    @IgnatSolovey 3 роки тому +1

    There is a guy in Moscow who re-developed the intestines of Oktava. Came in very handy because with that re-designed circuitry (complete with a new PCB) it became less self-noisy and there is quite noticeable gain increase, which is good. I use it with FetHead Phantom. Still not quite a match for Sennheiser ME64 in terms of sensitivity itself, and I find it more suitable for higher voices because of that signature “warmth” and “bassy-ness”, but as an indoor option it is better than any shotgun.

    • @curtisjudd
      @curtisjudd  3 роки тому

      👍

    • @TomWhoASMR
      @TomWhoASMR 3 роки тому +1

      Do all the Oktava mics you can buy today have this new re-designed circuitry? I'm considering buying a matched pair of Oktava mics in black but have heard they have a higher self-noise than other similar mics. How would one know? I'm going to be buying it from Thomann in Germany because I can't find it here in Canada.

  • @vyoufinder
    @vyoufinder 3 роки тому

    IS the whie noise test what was removed due to the app's copyright claim? ..'cuz I'm hearing like 1/10th of a second of white noise at the beginning, then the Oktava has white noise during the entirety, and about 1/10th of a second of white noise toward the end.
    I'm considering a pair of either the MK-012-20's vs. some Neumann KM184's vs. Micparts SDC-84. I like that the Oktava's and Micparts have the option of hypercardioid capsules available for them, and really the only thing drawing me toward the Neumann's is the fact that they're Neumann's - industry accepted widely and name recognition, and I probably go for either the Oktava's or Micparts.

    • @curtisjudd
      @curtisjudd  3 роки тому

      Yes, the options I had after the copyright claim was to just cut the audio they were claiming, take the video down altogether, or go through the long process of appealing. I figured it was probably best to go with option 1 and get back to work on more important things. 😕 Strangely, they didn't claim all of the white noise.
      Beware that a lot of people have complained of reliability issues with the Oktavas. Other than that, I had a good experience with my mk-012 while I had it. Haven't used the Neumann or Micparts so not sure on those.

  • @ZachScruggs
    @ZachScruggs 7 років тому

    Thank you, Curtis! I've been watching your other indoor dialogue mic videos, and didn't see anything about the Oktava.
    Awesome vid!

  • @HISPEEDLEVEL
    @HISPEEDLEVEL 2 роки тому

    Oktava MK-012 sounds amazing. Male voice sounds really clear and open

  • @XRaym
    @XRaym 5 років тому +3

    Oktava also have two different bidirectionnal capsule for Mid side. Would be nice if you could review it (or make a video about mid side) !

    • @curtisjudd
      @curtisjudd  5 років тому +2

      Thanks. Will add it to the list.

  • @anilyazar_
    @anilyazar_ 4 роки тому

    I have a guitar channel. Can i use one of these to capture my voice and the amp behind me?

    • @curtisjudd
      @curtisjudd  4 роки тому +1

      Sure, though I'd probably recommend the Oktava or RODE as they have slightly wider polar patterns which will work better to get both your voice and the amp.

  • @MichaelMa
    @MichaelMa 7 років тому +7

    Any reason you didn't use the hypercardioid capsule on the Oktava?

    • @curtisjudd
      @curtisjudd  7 років тому +3

      Yes, it was an intentional tradeoff and I might add the hyper capsule later. I already have a hyper mic (the AT) and I wanted a more open sound for when recording in rooms that don't need the more extreme hyper pattern - rooms that don't have a lot of slap/reverb.

    • @MichaelMa
      @MichaelMa 7 років тому

      Ah, I see. I think the hypercardioid capsule is the one that stands out on the Oktava. The omni seemed to pick up certain frequencies in the far distance, and the cardioid sounded very neutral. The hypercardioid seemed to be great at picking up a very full range of vocal frequencies at around 18 inches.
      It might be worth a look if you ever get the chance.

    • @ZentralstudioWien
      @ZentralstudioWien 6 років тому

      I recommend the Michael Joly modifing for both mics Rode and Oktava, the Oktava is much better with this upgrade Greetings from Vienna

    • @piotr803
      @piotr803 6 років тому

      Hypercardoid comes with a low-cut filter....so that might take care of the booming sounds.

    • @jackmontreal1
      @jackmontreal1 6 років тому +1

      I think Michael Joly do do mod any more.

  • @davidp158
    @davidp158 7 років тому +8

    I have a matched pair of Oktava MK-012. They sound great for the price, but the handling and wind noise is extremely difficult to manage when holding a boom pole. I now use an Audix SCX-1 HC (hyper cardioid), and like it much more. Slightly better frequency response and lower self-noise.

    • @MattFromSMM
      @MattFromSMM 7 років тому +1

      Dave Patterson that's been my go to mic as well. Haven't found anything better for the price. I think it's a bit warmer than the at4053b which I like

    • @curtisjudd
      @curtisjudd  7 років тому

      Good input, thanks! Looking at the waveforms recorded by the Oktava, I do see some very low frequency waves which I didn't see on the AT recorded at the same time. Seems a high pass filter is definitely in order for the Oktava. For me it'll only be used when boomed on a stand. No hand booming.

    • @MarkGFL
      @MarkGFL 7 років тому

      I have the high pass module for the Oktava and it does help a little with the bass issue I mentioned in another comment. Only a little though. And be aware that it does also add a little more self noise.

    • @davidp158
      @davidp158 7 років тому

      I just mentioned it so that anyone who does hand held boom mic work will be aware of it with the Oktava mics. A high pass filter will help to a point, but they also benefit from a proper shock mount system. They are extremely sensitive to wind, so a wind muff/dead cat is a must-have item.

    • @Bothmanns_pickups
      @Bothmanns_pickups 7 років тому

      Curtis Judd People who has tried the oktava with a rycote baby Ball gag says it takes away the Wind noise. I've just ordered the rycote super softie 5cm to my oktava to see if it is as good as the BBG.

  • @alaneddy4575
    @alaneddy4575 4 роки тому

    Hi Curtis. I got a good deal on a matched pair of Oktavas. Thank you for your advice! My kit is basically complete now. Cheers!

    • @curtisjudd
      @curtisjudd  4 роки тому

      Hi Alan, excellent! Happy recording!

  • @alvamusic8103
    @alvamusic8103 5 років тому +1

    Thanks Curtis! Have you ever tried the Neumann KM185 ? there are no rewievs on youtube, I hope to see the yours , because it is a very interesting microphone for how it is positioned between the prosumer and hi-end microphones. Thanks again!

    • @curtisjudd
      @curtisjudd  5 років тому +1

      Hi ALVA music, unfortunately, not yet! But it is a legendary mic and is on my list of mics to try. Thanks!

  • @dpollock333
    @dpollock333 7 років тому +1

    It seems to me that many of these types of mics tend to be a bit shrill (bright). It helps to record with the wind filter on rather than off. Of course you can always bump up the bass a bit in post by using eq, as well.

  • @tedleroy2778
    @tedleroy2778 4 роки тому

    Thanks for the video @Curtis Judd. The audio goes silent for me at about 3:45 when you're doing the white noise test. It comes back at about 4:26.

    • @curtisjudd
      @curtisjudd  4 роки тому

      Hi Ted, yes, I used a free app to play the white noise. The company who makes the app claimed that they own the copyright so the white noise was removed. 😞 Since this review back in 2017, I generated my own white noise and use that in my tests instead.

  • @RKRK-ci2vv
    @RKRK-ci2vv 7 років тому

    Again a great video .
    Nice review Curtis

  • @GeekGarageDK
    @GeekGarageDK 4 роки тому +1

    was the audio missing for the white noise test for the AT and Røde mics or are they just better at rejecting?

    • @curtisjudd
      @curtisjudd  4 роки тому +2

      Interesting - it would appear that UA-cam cut the audio out of that part of the video after it's been online for several years. It was there originally. 😕 Thanks for letting me know.

  • @TheresaS179
    @TheresaS179 7 років тому +3

    Two other quick footnotes to my previous comment:
    I do not find your voice to be unusually sibilant at all. You have a very nice resonant voice with a good mix. Perhaps not an AM radio announcer's booming voice, but very pleasant and natural sounding to my ears (having watched most of your videos now).
    Second, just as a general rule, do not be too quick to misjudge a microphone for having too much top end. Those highs are the easiest thing in the world to knock down with an equalizer if they don't suit a particular recording purpose, but you'll never create accurate, tight, high definition harmonics with an equalizer, if you start with something muddy.

    • @curtisjudd
      @curtisjudd  7 років тому

      Another good point, thank you!

    • @insanejughead
      @insanejughead 7 років тому +1

      I don't find his voice to be too sibilant, either; however, his notes about the performance of each mic are just thrown out there as a description of the microphone's barebones sound profile. If he didn't comment on the tonality of each mic in this way, he would practically be saying that each mic can sound the exact same through equalization. Just my two cents about all of this.

  • @JoaoSilva22222
    @JoaoSilva22222 7 років тому

    Loved the blue side light!!!

  • @michaelveronneau698
    @michaelveronneau698 7 років тому +1

    Wondering what the name of the white noise app is that you used...? (shows in silhouette around 3:33, with an 'equalizer' type display) I have been going through various apps on my iPhone and haven't been able to identify yet...
    Found one (Sleep Mask) that provides different types of white noise (White, Pink, Brown, Brown [soft] and White [wave]) which might be useful at times. White noise - different frequencies at equal intensity; Pink - a variation that places emphasis on base/lower frequencies; and Brown - even more emphasis on base. Anyway, might be useful sometimes when playing with multiple microphones on my Zoom F6, adjusting levels before the interviewees arrive (before the final sound check[s])...
    Thanks again for all the wonderful reviews/comparisons...much appreciated.

    • @curtisjudd
      @curtisjudd  7 років тому +1

      Hi Michael, the app is called White Noise. It is riddled with ads unless you pay but seems to do fine playing back white, pink, and brown noise.

    • @curtisjudd
      @curtisjudd  7 років тому

      I shouldn't say "riddled with ads" as the app developer needs to eat just like me. :) It is a fine app.

  • @fer_fdi
    @fer_fdi 7 років тому +1

    wonderful video as you always do Judd! Just a couple of notes: (for dialogue mostly) rejection is desirable but it is as important how the off-axis sounds, especially the low freqs, which are the most difficult to reproduce off-axis with a pleasant sound. Also, reproducing white noise from a tiny speaker will not work well for mid, mid-low and low freqs for obv. reasons (of course moving an 8'' speaker as you do with your phone wouldn't be practical or healthy : ) but the recorded response will be sort of erratic for the mid and low end response of the mics...

    • @curtisjudd
      @curtisjudd  7 років тому

      Very good point and I appreciate the input - thank you!

  • @skakdosmer
    @skakdosmer 5 років тому

    For the Røde NT5 there is also an additional capsule available: The omnidirectional Røde NT45.

    • @curtisjudd
      @curtisjudd  5 років тому

      Cool. Perhaps a good option for recording music or ambience.

    • @curtisjudd
      @curtisjudd  5 років тому

      Cool. Perhaps a good option for recording music or ambience.

    • @skakdosmer
      @skakdosmer 5 років тому

      Yes. Omnidirectional microphones often sound better than cardioids on an acoustic guitar, I think.

  • @MrAliceguardaigatti
    @MrAliceguardaigatti 7 років тому +1

    Hi Curtis,
    I have a question: I'm starting make movies, I have a canon Eos 600D, and I want to buy microphones (with a low budget), to start with professional audio.
    I found some informations on internet, and finally I would buy a zoom h4n (or h5 but I don't know if I absolutely need it), with a shotgun that could be a sennheiser ME-66 (with k6), an Audio-Technica AT897, or a AZDEN SGM-2X. For the price the best is the Audio- Technica, but I'm not a pro, so I need help. I want a good audio to make any sort of audio for a film... which one is the best for start with a low budget?
    Thank you very much (and sorry for my english).

    • @curtisjudd
      @curtisjudd  7 років тому +1

      Hi MrAliceguardaigatti, Any of the microphones you listed can make great recordings. More important will be learning how to place them to get the best sound. E.g., mounting the microphone on top of the camera is usually results in rather poor sound while booming the mic above the person speaking sounds many times better.
      As for recorders, I would suggest the H5 over the H4n. The H4n was good for its time several years ago, but its preamps don't have quite as much gain and tend to produce a bit more noise than the H5.
      Good luck!

  • @buggzo
    @buggzo 4 роки тому +1

    I wish the Audio Technica brand of production mics got more mentions with the likes of dedicated production microphone companies like Sanken, Senny, etc.
    The AT mic's are not in the same class of quality as the low budget music-oriented mics. The AT stuff is built to handle the rigors of production.
    Would love to see a 4053b vs cs-m1 vs dpa vs schoeps.

    • @curtisjudd
      @curtisjudd  4 роки тому

      Good news, we compared the AT to a Sennheiser and Schoeps here: ua-cam.com/video/RYWD5wI6B9k/v-deo.html

  • @jaredjaynes
    @jaredjaynes 7 років тому +2

    Thanks for the comparison, I did a similar test a year ago with the same mics ended up keeping the isk cm-20 (35$)for dialog, it is surprisingly transparent and gives me lots of options in post-production. it is very prone to sibilance so if I am working with a production company that I know does not have the capability to master sound very well I usually use a different mic, which would be the audio technica.

    • @curtisjudd
      @curtisjudd  7 років тому

      Thanks for that Jared. I hadn't heard of the ISK and only $35. Wow!

  • @photonick42
    @photonick42 3 роки тому +1

    First of all, thanks for the comparison. It was very helpful. I have a question relating to much distance and gain. I'm using the Oktava MK-012 and find I need to have it located less than a foot away from my mouth to get a decent signal strength (-18 to -12 dB). I noticed in your video it's more like 1.5 feet away or more, which makes sense to keep it out of the shot. My audio interface is a MOTU-M4 and the gain knob is around the 90%mark.

    • @curtisjudd
      @curtisjudd  3 роки тому +1

      Hmm, yes, you might need to push the gain even more on the M4.

  • @Texturas75
    @Texturas75 Рік тому

    Thanks for this info and analysis!
    6:11 What shockmount did you use to test the handling noise? It seems very sophisticated.

    • @curtisjudd
      @curtisjudd  Рік тому +1

      The Rycote cyclone shockmount.

    • @Texturas75
      @Texturas75 Рік тому

      @@curtisjudd thank you!!

  • @lionheartroar3104
    @lionheartroar3104 10 місяців тому

    The Oktava sounds beautiful

  • @EntropicStarEdits
    @EntropicStarEdits 7 років тому +2

    I could be hearing things but does the Oktava have a better bass pickup?

    • @curtisjudd
      @curtisjudd  7 років тому

      Definitely more bass on the Oktava. You're hearing right!

    • @skakdosmer
      @skakdosmer 5 років тому

      More bass, absolutely. Better bass? Well, that depends on what you want.

  • @BarefootMediaTV
    @BarefootMediaTV 7 років тому +2

    might have m sold on that oktava!

    • @curtisjudd
      @curtisjudd  7 років тому

      It is surprisingly good.

  • @nikinik7503
    @nikinik7503 4 роки тому

    Hello Curtis! Here is my observation. The Audio-Technica sounded very good, but too dark to me. Rode was sounding open, nice and for me the best of 3 examples. Octava compared to other 2 well.... my word for it is strange sounding, again compared to other 2 . For me, Octava is out of my radar. I hope to be close to your thoughts.

    • @curtisjudd
      @curtisjudd  4 роки тому +1

      Thanks Carburetor. These three microphones are all quite good so to a large extent it comes down to personal preference and the voice they record. Best wishes!

  • @dorythomas1816
    @dorythomas1816 3 роки тому

    Hello Curtis
    awesome review as usual
    can you please take a look at the SE 8 small diaphragm mic if its possible
    the specs are so interesting
    thank you

    • @curtisjudd
      @curtisjudd  3 роки тому

      Thanks Dory. I'll have a look.

  • @KarolWalkowski
    @KarolWalkowski 7 років тому +1

    For me Oktava sounded really good if not the best of all three. I am biased however as I own a matched stereo pair ;) The only issue I have with one mic is that something rattles inside which makes booming impossible. I have read that I am not the only one who has this problem though. I tried to open it, but apparently instead of a solid, Russian hardened steel the screw is made of some soft metal and I have flattened a head of the screw immediately... Anyway, I record ORTF stereo soundscapes with it, so it doesn't bother me that much.

    • @curtisjudd
      @curtisjudd  7 років тому

      Thanks Karol, good to hear your experience with the Oktava as well.

    • @valdemarrempen7095
      @valdemarrempen7095 5 років тому +1

      Hi Karol, here there is a trick: You have to turn the screw clockwise until the the screw head will sink deep enough to slide the body tube off. Actually, Sennheiser MKH 416 and some other mics has the same disassembling method.

  • @aaronfriedman8201
    @aaronfriedman8201 6 років тому

    The preamp and interface used also affect the sound. I use the Babyface Pro Pre/ DAC. I connect the MIC using the best high-end Digital Mogami Mic cables. I also use a lot of power conditioning and IFI USB devices to isolate computer ground noise from the interface. I have other tweaks to eliminate vibration interference using Sorbothane feet weighting precisely using maximum allowed weight calculations to achieve maximum vibration isolation (here if the weight is too much or too little, the result could turn out worse). That is why when I listen to mic tests around youtube they all sound different. Simply there are many other factors that affect sound quality.

    • @curtisjudd
      @curtisjudd  6 років тому

      Thanks Aaron, I agree that the preamp/DAC makes a difference as do other factors. But I still find that the mic imparts the biggest overall effect on sound quality, once you get into preamps in the mid to upper level.

  • @abdulrhmanqotb9408
    @abdulrhmanqotb9408 5 днів тому

    Hello Curtis, Please WOULD YOU RECOMMEND MKE600 VS OCTAVA?

  • @valeriolaneveguitar
    @valeriolaneveguitar 3 роки тому +1

    Thank you for your video. I would use the pair of them to record my classical guitar, mainly at my home. Would you go for the oktava mk or for the rode? Thank you

    • @curtisjudd
      @curtisjudd  3 роки тому +1

      Probably for the RODE. I've heard a good number of reports of reliability issues with the Oktavas.

    • @TomWhoASMR
      @TomWhoASMR 3 роки тому

      @@curtisjudd Hi Curtis, can you say what kind of reliability issues you heard about the Oktava mics? I'm considering getting a matched pair. I'm also concerned that the self noise appears to be a tad higher than a few others because I will be recording fairly quiet sounds a lot of the time. Thanks for this helpful video!

    • @curtisjudd
      @curtisjudd  3 роки тому

      @@TomWhoASMR I gave mine away a few months ago but it was still working great. I haven't had any issues myself, but have heard quite a few people indicate that they have had issues with theirs. I suspect that part of this is that there are a good number of fakes out there. Be sure to buy a genuine Oktava from a reputable retailers like Thomann.

  • @framesandframes561
    @framesandframes561 3 роки тому

    I’m shooting a documentary style piece inside of an artist’s studio. I want to supplement wireless lav audio with a second mic but don’t have budget for a boom operator and the subject will be moving. Could I mount a pencil style mic like these on my C200 mic mount or should I stick with my NTG3 for that?

    • @curtisjudd
      @curtisjudd  3 роки тому +1

      I’d just stick with the NTG3

  • @haraldthi
    @haraldthi 7 років тому +1

    Thanks for the comparison. I thought the Audio Technica was a bit "closed" on female voice but great in male. The Rode was overly bright and sibilant and the Octava had a mid tone I didn't like all that much.
    Overall I liked the Audio Technica best but then there is price.
    Rode announced they were working on an updated NT5 early this year, and if they curb the brightness like they've done on the updated NT1, I believe I may be waiting for that.

    • @skakdosmer
      @skakdosmer 7 років тому

      Harald Thingelstad Exciting news! Although I prefer the old NT1a over the new NT1.

    • @haraldthi
      @haraldthi 7 років тому

      Lau Bjerno Sure, the new NT1 is very, shall we say, modern and straight on? I haven't tried it but I'm sure it has its purposes. Audio book reading, for example.
      Røde has more going on, for example an updated Videomic Pro + and a soundfield microphone, plus further forays into valves and transformers for musical use.
      This longish marketing video becomes rather interesting over time: vimeo.com/199946849

    • @curtisjudd
      @curtisjudd  7 років тому +1

      I'll be interested to learn more about the update NT5.

    • @haraldthi
      @haraldthi 7 років тому

      Yeah. Me too. Festivity and much excitement early in the year, then nothing happens in five months. Not a word, nowhere. Just the usual the usual updates. What are they doing?

  • @spritual_enlightenment
    @spritual_enlightenment 7 років тому +1

    Hi Curtis, when you talk about the programs you offer, there're no program names and other information about them on the black screen as well as description section of the video. In my book, they're called mistakes.

    • @curtisjudd
      @curtisjudd  7 років тому +1

      Thanks for the feedback. I learned the hard way here that UA-cam doesn't allow the end-screen graphics for more than the last 20 seconds of the video. So I'll need to go back and film a video piece to insert. Thanks for the heads-up.

  • @L4LTVuk
    @L4LTVuk 7 років тому +1

    My preference is for the Rode - I like the brighter sibilance as a matter of choice. I find the "warmth" of the Octava a bit buzzy for my liking. I have a matching pair of NT5s and also 2 NT55s. It would have been good to hear NT55s as well as I find them superb indoors for interviews.

    • @curtisjudd
      @curtisjudd  7 років тому

      Thanks for the comments re: the RODE. I was under the impression the NT55s had the same capsule as the NT5s with a preamp that has a high pass filter? Or is it actually a different capsule and different sound?

    • @L4LTVuk
      @L4LTVuk 7 років тому

      I have different capsules on the NT55 - custom made ones.

    • @haraldthi
      @haraldthi 7 років тому

      From what I know, the NT55 has the same capsule but more options, as you say. But these mikes have been sold so much there's an aftermarket for capsules, by other brands. So I guess that's the case.
      (The M5, on the other end, is a budget option with electret condenser and no interchangable capsules. An instrument mike with slight self noise, so nothing for video.)

    • @curtisjudd
      @curtisjudd  7 років тому

      I see. I have the Michael Joley "Roadster" capsule which sounds quite nice though it does add a bit more self-noise. Decent trade-off.

    • @L4LTVuk
      @L4LTVuk 7 років тому

      Yep snap - I bought the Roadster on your recommendation - they fit on the 55's as well. There are a couple of services in the States I send off for because they do not have them in the UK i.e. leads etc

  • @przybylskipawel
    @przybylskipawel 4 роки тому

    Hi Curtis! I have a question about your opinion on the idea that recently came to my mind. It relates to using ambisonic Rode NT-SF1 mic as an indoor boom mic for shots of a group of people. Say we don't want to use multiple lavs and we want to use this just like we would use multiple boom mics which (I assume) is noc common for the reason of bleed, interference and so on. Since you can create all sound formats from mono to 7.1.4 out of A-format recording and shape polar paterns of virtual mics even to shotgun pattern using beamforming, do you think it would be possible to create in post some kind of virtual mono shotgun mic that would track the the talent that is currently speaking is if you have a boompole operator? (While for monitoring or camera feed you could have simple stereo matrix).

    • @curtisjudd
      @curtisjudd  4 роки тому

      Hi Paweł, it is a clever idea. I have never tried it but if you already have the mic, an experiment is certainly in order!

  • @skakdosmer
    @skakdosmer 7 років тому +2

    Thanks for the test. For the female voice the differences sounded small, but I liked the Røde best - it seemed a little cleaner. For your voice I agree that the Oktava was easily the best, and I liked the Røde least. I think the Audio Technica is only a little "hyper". This time I did notice that the dead angle isn't directly behind the microphone but a little off to the side. So I found the back rejection a tiny bit less pronounced than the others and the side rejection a tiny bit more pronounced, but the difference is still surprisingly small. By the way, I'd like to know: Are the capsules of the Røde and the Oktava interchangeable? (I.e. can you use one mic's capsule on the other mic?)

    • @curtisjudd
      @curtisjudd  7 років тому +2

      Thanks Lau. The capsules are not interchangeable between the RODE and Oktava. They are different diameters. If they were the same, I'd be hesitant to try exchanging them as different mics work with different voltages at the capsule and the risk of damaging the capsule is real.

    • @skakdosmer
      @skakdosmer 7 років тому +1

      Thanks, Curtis. I thought that would most likely be the answer. But I always look for ways to get more for less.

  • @steadikek
    @steadikek 7 років тому

    Something important to consider for the Oktava MK-012:
    There are the old "original" russian Oktava mics and the "Made-in-China" new ones.
    Both of them are genuine. Oktava moved the production from Russia to China in the early 2000s and the new Oktava MK-012 from China tends to have tinny highs.
    I'm not sure what else changed, but I like the russian-made ones quite a bit more.

    • @curtisjudd
      @curtisjudd  7 років тому +1

      Good history to know, thanks! I assume the one I have here would be one of the Chinese manufactured copies. If this one sounds this good, I'd be very interested in hearing a Russian manufactured copy.

    • @curtisjudd
      @curtisjudd  7 років тому

      FYI, The version tested here is presumably the Chinese version.

    • @valdemarrempen7095
      @valdemarrempen7095 5 років тому

      Black versions are made only in Russia. There were some China-made MK-012 mics, but only in silver house.

    • @alexanderlinkevich
      @alexanderlinkevich 11 місяців тому

      Sorry for late answer
      Oktava never moved factory to China. Its fakes Oktava’s clones.

  • @alutzlft
    @alutzlft 3 роки тому

    Hi Curtis, have you ever tried the AKG p170? its a pencil mic and cost around 80-100 USD, people use it for drums and guitars but sounds really nice in voice too. I got a ntg-2 and for some uses the akg just destroys the ntg-2, the off-axis pickup its great for interviews with the subject moving alot (cardiod).

    • @curtisjudd
      @curtisjudd  3 роки тому +1

      Hi alutzift, I haven't. I'd like to try it.

  • @roadrunna.
    @roadrunna. 9 місяців тому

    Found it, once again thank you very much Curtis :)

  • @NyoMurdi
    @NyoMurdi 6 років тому +2

    Very good review! I’m currently in the process of getting an indoor microphone; have you ever used the RØDE M5? It’s mainly advertised as ideal for recording music but I imagine it would be similar to something like the NT5 in terms of recording Dialogue?

    • @curtisjudd
      @curtisjudd  6 років тому

      Hi Jack, thanks! I haven’t personally had a chance to use the M5 yet. There are a few UA-cam videos with dialogue samples out there and it sounded pretty decent to my ears. It could definitely work. Good luck!

  • @richiejohnson4077
    @richiejohnson4077 7 років тому

    Do you think the nt55 is better for indoor dialogue than the nt5? Not worrying about the price differences or anything like that, just as a microphone?

  • @wilmerjah
    @wilmerjah 5 років тому

    hello that good video, I want to know what support you used with the microphone oktava 012, when you move with the boom stick it improves a lot what model and brand is it? Thank you

    • @curtisjudd
      @curtisjudd  5 років тому +1

      Thanks. That was the shock mount which comes with the Rycote Cyclone which is quite expensive but is great wind protection: bhpho.to/2zjpXRT
      Rycote makes a much less expensive shock mount without the wind cover which is also very good: bhpho.to/2gtuRDT

  • @D_L_J_83
    @D_L_J_83 5 років тому +1

    Hi Curtis! How does the Sampson microphone compare to the Oktava MK012?

    • @curtisjudd
      @curtisjudd  5 років тому +1

      Hi Diego, the Samson C01 doesn't sound nearly as nice as the Oktava MK012 in my tests. The Samson is good *for its price* but not amazing. The Oktava is amazing for its price, if you get a good copy and use a really good shock mount.

  • @commercialand
    @commercialand 5 років тому +1

    So I think I might by this with the different capsules, and would this work well for movie dialogue from a distance? It seems youtuber's use this up close so it sounds good, but would the boxy sound appear more if further away?

    • @curtisjudd
      @curtisjudd  5 років тому +1

      No, this is true of almost all microphones. If you need a lot of "reach" you could look at long shotgun mics, but they must be aimed precisely and they're a bit unwieldy, sort of a specialty tool. This is why camera mounted microphones never sounds as good as microphones boomed up close. They are fine mics, just too far away from the sound source. This is one of the basic rules for getting good sound - get the microphone close.

    • @curtisjudd
      @curtisjudd  5 років тому +1

      One other thought, if the talent will be moving and far from the camera, wireless lavalaier mics are generally the best option in terms of getting good sound quality.

    • @commercialand
      @commercialand 5 років тому

      @@curtisjudd yes I understand, I just bought the Oktava mk 012 and I think the furthest we would be away would be 4ft tops, so should be ok? I think we are talking proximity effect so ya makes sense.

    • @curtisjudd
      @curtisjudd  5 років тому

      Good, should work decently. Best wishes and happy recording!

    • @commercialand
      @commercialand 5 років тому +2

      Thanks man! I really appreciate all you do for us! you really seem to fit very well for educating and helping others, you are perfect for UA-cam!

  • @123andjump
    @123andjump 5 років тому +1

    Oktava MK-012 (hyper-cardioid capsule “Movie Set” 219 EUR): Price is 189 Euro now in march 2019.

    • @curtisjudd
      @curtisjudd  5 років тому +1

      Thanks.

    • @alainhalimi3821
      @alainhalimi3821 4 роки тому

      @@curtisjudd hi I would love to know your thoughts on the hypercardioid version of the oktava for outdoors on a budget: i have the preamp and consider to buy the hypercardioid capsule. how would this compare against real shotgun mics? thanks

    • @curtisjudd
      @curtisjudd  4 роки тому

      @@alainhalimi3821 just a guess since I do not have the hyper-cardioid capsule, but I would expect most quality shotgun microphones to have a narrower polar pattern, but that varies quiet a bit from shotgun mic to shotgun mic. I've used a hyper outdoors before. In my case, it picked up a bit more ambient sound/noise than a focused shotgun mic.

  • @DJayFreeDoo
    @DJayFreeDoo 5 років тому

    The AT4035b sounded a bit softer, perhaps a little bit more dynamic? But its really hard to tell the Rode and Oktavia apart. I own a pair of the NT5s myself and i'm quite happy with them. Works great for binaural recordings and i use them for sound design stuff.

    • @curtisjudd
      @curtisjudd  5 років тому

      👍 thanks for your insights!

  • @GraeneyMac
    @GraeneyMac 5 років тому

    Top class. Thank you, Curtis.

    • @curtisjudd
      @curtisjudd  5 років тому

      Thanks for the feedback.

  • @akashdhar5871
    @akashdhar5871 6 років тому +1

    can you suggest good pencil microphone for piano recording?

    • @curtisjudd
      @curtisjudd  6 років тому

      Yes, the Oktava MK-012 is good and can be purchased in a stereo pair which is often what is used to record piano: geni.us/EbFkL

  • @4ki543
    @4ki543 4 роки тому +2

    Great vid! I´m a bit confused and don´t know what mic to choose: Samson CO2, Oktava MK-012, Rode NT5 (I´m gonna use it on a boom pole)
    What do you recommend me??

    • @curtisjudd
      @curtisjudd  4 роки тому +2

      I'd choose the NT5

    • @4ki543
      @4ki543 4 роки тому +1

      @@curtisjudd Perfect! Just bought it :)

    • @airtime23
      @airtime23 4 роки тому

      @@4ki543 Are you happy with it? :)

    • @4ki543
      @4ki543 4 роки тому +2

      @@airtime23 Yep, it is superb. Although it produces a bit of noise, the general feeling is pretty good, though

    • @airtime23
      @airtime23 4 роки тому

      @@4ki543 Thank you. :)

  • @ZachScruggs
    @ZachScruggs 7 років тому

    Hi Curtis,
    What is the orange net-looking thing on the end of one of your XLR connectors?

    • @curtisjudd
      @curtisjudd  7 років тому

      Hi Zachary, that is nylon netting that I keep on the metal XLR connector so that when it is not connected to a microphone, the netting provides a little bit of padding in case the connector bangs agains the graphite boom pole which is somewhat delicate.

  • @DevynFromCFXTV
    @DevynFromCFXTV 6 років тому

    Do you think the NT5 is good for capturing a marching band? I want a good frequency response for the low end to combined with the thinner sounding H4n or AT875r.

    • @curtisjudd
      @curtisjudd  6 років тому

      I'm not sure. It is tricky to record a marching band (I've actually done it a few times) and get the entire band which means I had to boom the mic up over the band while in a semi-circle, and still did not get a lot of bass like you might when micing each section of the band. The NT5 would have the advantage of having a wider pickup pattern than the AT875r so that would help some.

    • @DevynFromCFXTV
      @DevynFromCFXTV 6 років тому

      Awesome, thanks. So I'm assuming you are implying multiple microphones would help? I was thinking a pair would be great like the Rode M5s or NT5s in an XY Stereo set-up.

    • @curtisjudd
      @curtisjudd  6 років тому +1

      Yes, a stereo pair would definitely help. Note that it is hard to get a lot of bass unless you're micing each section of the band or place the overhead stereo pair just right. Mic placement is a big deal in getting a balanced recording. Good luck!

  • @patrickshanahanmusic8167
    @patrickshanahanmusic8167 2 роки тому

    Hey Curtis, knowing what you do now, would you still purchase the 4053B? I already have a pair of NT5's so am deliberating going straght for a Senn 8050. Appreciate your thoughts!@ Thanks

    • @curtisjudd
      @curtisjudd  2 роки тому

      If the choice is between the 4053b and the MKH8050, I’d choose the 8050. But if budget is tighter, the 4053b is a solid choice.

  • @johnjackson8902
    @johnjackson8902 6 років тому

    Oktava was the best sounding to my ears. The handling noise issue isn't surprising since Oktavas are known to have issues with things like body resonance.

    • @curtisjudd
      @curtisjudd  6 років тому +1

      Thanks John, yes, I generally prefer the sound of the Oktava as well, at least when statically boomed for an interview.

    • @johnjackson8902
      @johnjackson8902 6 років тому

      Curtis Judd It's actually pretty interesting that you used the regular cardioid capsule on the Oktava. Still sounded like it had good rejection.

  • @RandomRichard2022
    @RandomRichard2022 3 роки тому

    Hi, i'm very interested in the Oktava. But what worries me is the sensitivity rating of

    • @curtisjudd
      @curtisjudd  3 роки тому +2

      I didn't notice any issues in terms of gain on the ZOOM F series. What worries me more is that a lot of people complain of reliability issues with the Oktava. I haven't had issues with my copy, but something to keep in mind.

    • @RandomRichard2022
      @RandomRichard2022 3 роки тому

      @@curtisjudd Thanks for your reply. Have an awesome day!

  • @m_video_7248
    @m_video_7248 4 роки тому

    Hello, i have to make a video of some yoga lessons but the teacher don't want a wireless mic. How must I record this lesson ? which mikes ?
    thanks

    • @curtisjudd
      @curtisjudd  4 роки тому +1

      I would use a shotgun microphone if the room is not too reverberant. Something like the RODE NTG5: ua-cam.com/video/bv1xUShuUY0/v-deo.html

  • @kor9582
    @kor9582 6 років тому +1

    Hello Curtis, and thanks for your videos, always helpfull to watch.
    I'd like to know how does this oktava mk-012 perform with echo/reverb against the samson c02 in case of sit-down interviews indoors.
    The mic would be set at about 60-80 cm of the source, maybe a bit less.
    Thanks again!

    • @curtisjudd
      @curtisjudd  6 років тому

      Hi kor9582, about the same, not a huge difference to my ear. I prefer the overall sound of the Oktava.

    • @kor9582
      @kor9582 6 років тому

      @@curtisjudd Thank you!

    • @RyanGproductions1
      @RyanGproductions1 6 років тому +1

      @@curtisjudd I noticed in a couple other videos that you say you liked the the 4053b, but you liked the NT5 better for overall value. Is that still the case? Have you tried the Oktava with the other capsules yet? I will ONLY be using the this mic for INDOOR dialogue. Thoughts? I don't WANT to spend $600 for a mic, but if it's that much better I will. I will be using the Zoom F4 as the recorder / preamps into a Sony A9

    • @curtisjudd
      @curtisjudd  6 років тому +1

      ​@@RyanGproductions1 If I were to buy today, knowing what I know now, I'd go with the Oktava. It comes in a kit with a hyper capsule along with a cardioid capsule: amzn.to/2D9EUuc

    • @doubledark2
      @doubledark2 4 роки тому

      @@curtisjudd same use (ONLY INDOOR dialogue), would you sell an Audio Technica AT875R to buy the Octavia kit?

  • @alaneddy4575
    @alaneddy4575 4 роки тому

    I think a simpler version of my question is would the Oktava film edition hyper cardioid mic that you bought be good for acoustic guitar as well as voice and can I add a second one later without a serious problem? Sorry for the previous waffle.

    • @curtisjudd
      @curtisjudd  4 роки тому

      Hi Alan, It would work nicely for guitar. I'm not sure how much variation there is from copy to copy but if it is critical that they match, you may want to wait until you can afford a stereo pair. Or would you just use them for interviews and on different instruments? If the latter, you should be find buying them separately. Best wishes!

  • @luisvieira2842
    @luisvieira2842 4 роки тому +1

    Thank you Curtis for the video!
    I would love to know your advice on this: Would a pair of oktavas mk-012 be good to record a grand piano? And, for a small group of classical musicians, such as violin and horn? Would you recommend using all oktavas to record all the instruments, or changing with other mics, or mixing? Thanks a lot!

    • @curtisjudd
      @curtisjudd  4 роки тому +2

      Thanks Luis! Yes, a stereo matched pair would be a good choice for recording instruments and small ensembles. I would generally advise to go with a matched pair if possible to avoid any stereo imbalance issues. Best of luck!

    • @HomesickMac
      @HomesickMac 4 роки тому

      @@curtisjudd My matched pair of Oktava MK012 is on the way thanks to , amongst other sources, this video Curtis... and it's intended to be used both for recording the acoustic guitars and other string instruments, but also during my streamed teaching lessons where one of the mics would be for my voice. The idea is to set the mics in the right angle for the matched pair, only vertically in this case. One pointed to my mouth and the other to the guitar. I'm hoping to be able to have the mics above me and in front so that they aren't in the way for the three camera setup + ATEM Mini Pro with Picture in Picture settings.... Thank you for the great video!

    • @curtisjudd
      @curtisjudd  4 роки тому +2

      @@HomesickMac Sounds like a solid setup - Best wishes and happy recording!

  • @w2aiq
    @w2aiq 7 років тому +1

    It would truly be interesting and relevant to me to hear these three "dialog" small diaphragm mics compared to an industry standard VO mic like those large diaphragm mics coveted for audiobook production like the CAD e100s or the tlm-103 or u87 and even the rode nt1a....... there are folks who find it impossible for the mics you present to have any possibility of competing with the types of mics I mentioned, although as far as I am concerned the jury is still out until I "Hear" the proof!

    • @MattFromSMM
      @MattFromSMM 7 років тому

      w2aiq it's two different uses. The large diaphragm is definitely better for voiceover stuff but the downside is you need to be close to the mic. Mics like these work better for video cause you can boom them out of the shot. Not sure if their are hypercardiod large diaphragm mics. I'm gonna have to dig into that

    • @w2aiq
      @w2aiq 7 років тому

      well maybe on a typical basis, but the MHK 416 is the only small capsule mic I know of that is widely desired and used in the audiobook and voice over industry and that has a small capsule like the other three judd displayed, so I was wondering how they would match up against a large D Mic, because even though I have never seen a comparison, the MHK 416 apparently must compare quite well

    • @MattFromSMM
      @MattFromSMM 7 років тому

      w2aiq ahh I gotcha

    • @curtisjudd
      @curtisjudd  7 років тому

      I was curious about the same thing and so I did this some time back: ua-cam.com/video/p1WOtGJk4YE/v-deo.html Comparted a RODE NT1A and the Audio Technica Hyper.

  • @ClintEastonz
    @ClintEastonz Рік тому

    Hmm, was looking at the Rode, but the Oktava MK-012 really surprised me with warmth of the voice.

    • @curtisjudd
      @curtisjudd  Рік тому

      👍 not as good at handling noise, but good on a static boom.

  • @nordfresse
    @nordfresse 6 років тому

    Since the BMPCC4k has a miniXLR input, I thought it would be great to make use of that and go for something better but still compact like the Rode ntg1 or the Azden sgm 250 (cx). It was actually new to me, that shotgun mics are not ideal for indoor use. But you mention that the Oktava, which I do like a lot, should be away from the talent no more than 24 inches. So that would hardly work as an on camera mic right? What is the ideal on-camera mic for indoor use (3-5 feet away from source) with xlr connection in your opinion? Maybe that could me a video of its own, since the Blackmagic is very popular. Thanks..

    • @curtisjudd
      @curtisjudd  6 років тому

      Hi nordfresse, Shotgun microphones can be used indoors but will, in rare circumstances, experiences some phase issues (sounds like the source sound is warbling) if the sound source is slightly off axis of the mic and the room has a lot of reverb. So if you need a very narrow polar pattern mic, a shotgun is the choice, just be sure to keep the mic on axis and manage any reverb in the room.
      Also, I'd beware of using either of the two mics you listed with the BMPCC4K. I suspect the preamps don't provide a ton of gain and both of those mics NEED a lot of clean gain.
      Best wishes!

    • @nordfresse
      @nordfresse 6 років тому

      @@curtisjudd I dont have the camera yet, but I would think that the preamps are pretty good since they put the mini xlr in there. Would be no point in doing so otherwise right?

    • @curtisjudd
      @curtisjudd  6 років тому

      @@nordfresse I'm not quite so optimistic. My main camera is an Ursa Mini Pro and its preamps do not provide enough gain for mics like these two - in terms of getting clean audio without a lot of self-noise in the audio signal chain.

  • @Walterconv
    @Walterconv 3 роки тому

    Hello Curtis. Great test, like always. I need to film a short in a kitchen with bad acoustic. Do you think the Oktava can help me to avoid the reverberation in the dialog recordings?

    • @curtisjudd
      @curtisjudd  3 роки тому +1

      If the kitchen is really reverberant, I'd probably opt for a lavalier or headset mic.

    • @Walterconv
      @Walterconv 3 роки тому

      @@curtisjudd Thanks.

  • @munjelo1
    @munjelo1 3 роки тому

    hi, have oktava and in my setup for overhead mic with zoom h2npro, when is rec level on 95 I can't rich -12 and -6dcb, it go max. on -16. whats wrong em I doing?

    • @curtisjudd
      @curtisjudd  3 роки тому +1

      The microphone needs 48V phantom power. I do not believe the H2n supplies 48V phantom power. So that is probably the issue.

    • @munjelo1
      @munjelo1 3 роки тому

      @@curtisjudd Yes he deliver 24 ad 48v phantom power! I will try go closer to the subject... thx!✌🏻

  • @lornebooker9001
    @lornebooker9001 7 років тому

    Have you had a chance to try the Aputure Deity super cardioid condenser microphone yet? Again, so many mics, so little time? I imagine that the cost of these mics adds up.

    • @curtisjudd
      @curtisjudd  7 років тому

      Good news, I've actually reviewed it: ua-cam.com/video/kom1nMM0DrQ/v-deo.html and compared it to 4 other shotgun microphones: ua-cam.com/video/veD8BVXV3Ls/v-deo.html

  • @BenSemisch
    @BenSemisch 4 роки тому

    Thanks for this. Was looking for a budget Cardoid, think the NT5 might fit the bill.

  • @AlexPetrov108
    @AlexPetrov108 3 роки тому

    Hey Curtis, can you please help me? I have an Oktava MK-012 mic connected to a Behringer UMC202HD audio interface. When I shoot, let's say, a 45 min interview recording sound separately through the interface in Reaper, I then try to sync it in Resolve and for some reason, when I sync the beginning of the interview I see about 10 frames difference in the synchronization at the end. It means that the audio recorded through an audio interface is slightly faster than the video and its internal audio but after 45 min this speed difference results in quite noticeable bad lipsync. I had a Steinberg interface before and never had such issues doing the same thing with the same cameras and software. Have you ever had such issues in your practice? What could be the reason and where can I find a solution? I get it both on Mac and Windows machines. I wrote to the Behringer support but I don't hope for much from them...

    • @curtisjudd
      @curtisjudd  3 роки тому

      Hi Alex, yes, some lower end audio interfaces have rather poor quality clocks and will drift over time like you've experienced, unfortunately. If there is any way to feed the audio from the interface to the camera, that will help ensure it stays in sync through the entire piece. Or upgrade to a more capable audio interface, of course.

    • @AlexPetrov108
      @AlexPetrov108 3 роки тому

      @@curtisjudd thank you

    • @AlexPetrov108
      @AlexPetrov108 3 роки тому

      @@curtisjudd Just a follow-up: I've conducted a few tests and found the ratio - I can use the playback rate of 0.99984 to compensate for the incorrect pace and timings of the interface. Now they all seem to sync nicely =)

    • @LearnLightAndSoundSessions
      @LearnLightAndSoundSessions 3 роки тому +1

      @@AlexPetrov108 You've cracked the code! Nice work!

  • @Matthew_Raymond
    @Matthew_Raymond 4 роки тому

    What shock mount was used for the Oktava in this video to decrease handling noise?

    • @curtisjudd
      @curtisjudd  4 роки тому

      I used the Rycote Lyre shockmounts. In this case, I used the one which comes with the Rycote Cyclone wind shield. But they also sell just the shockmounts: bhpho.to/39UPl1C
      Full disclosure - that is an affiliate link for B&H Photo. As an affiliate, I earn from qualifying purchases.

  • @armsby
    @armsby 4 роки тому

    Nice comparison. The girl has a difficult frequency range. Which mic are you using on your narrative? It's picking up extrem 'S' noise at various points. It would take a lot of manual editing to balance or a perfect deesser. Maybe there's a mic more suited to your voice. BTW, the sound cuts out from 3:44 and appears again at the end of the white noise test.

    • @curtisjudd
      @curtisjudd  4 роки тому

      Thanks Armsby, yes, I used a free app on my phone to produce the white noise and the company which produced the app claimed copyright so I had to remove that. Sorry about that inconvenience. I used the Oktava for the narrative portion of the video and I agree, not a great fit. I didn't process it too much here because I wanted viewers to be able to hear the mic without too much processing. Best wishes.

  • @HazzaBaniMalek
    @HazzaBaniMalek 7 років тому

    What kind of scenarios where you would choose a hyper cardioid over a shotgun mic? I'm a bit confused distinguishing between them since both of them focus on sounds in front of the mic and rejects the surroundings. And what makes those "indoors" mics?

    • @curtisjudd
      @curtisjudd  7 років тому

      The interference tube design of shotgun mics make them potentially problematic indoors. When sound reflects off of walls and bounced in the side of the interference tube, you can experience phase interference and a sort of harsh warbling sound. Also, if the sound source is off-axis of the front of the mic, shotguns can experience this same effect quite several. Non-shotgun small diaphragm condensers like we cover here tend to do a little better with reverb and off-axis scenarios with fewer phase issues.

  • @alaneddy4575
    @alaneddy4575 4 роки тому

    Hi Curtis. I think I need one more mic to begin my UA-cam journey. I'm quite taken by the Oktava. I am curious to know if you think the cardioid or hyper cardioid would be best for indoor mic stand deployment (so no handling noise to worry about) I need an inexpensive all rounder that will be good for spoken voice, musical vocals and acoustic guitar. I only have enough to get one mic and don't want to pay for extra capsules I probably won't use. So is it hyper or regular cardioid? Also how bad would it be to just add another one as a stereo pair down the road. Would it make that much difference compared to a balanced pair? Love your work sir, and I've made several critical kit decisions based on your input so thank you again.

    • @curtisjudd
      @curtisjudd  4 роки тому

      For an all-rounder, I'd go with the cardioid. I'm not sure how much variation there is from copy to copy but you are likely to find differences on a mic at this price point (that's a guess).

  • @charliebrownau
    @charliebrownau 7 років тому

    Gday for an ultra budget solution , would an Audio-Technica ATR-6550 or Audio-Technica ATR55 be okay connected to a boom pole ?

    • @curtisjudd
      @curtisjudd  7 років тому

      Yes, fine if you're putting it on a stand boom. If you're hand-operating the boom, you will need a shock mount.

  • @gibsonedu
    @gibsonedu 7 років тому

    I'm considering getting a boom mic for the videos I make in my office for my UA-cam channel as well as any other interview videos that come up (most likely all indoors). I was pretty much set on the NTG2. Why would someone want to get the NTG5 w/ it's cardiod pickup over an NTG2 with it's more directional supercardiod? What contexts is the NTG5 preferrable over the NTG2?

    • @curtisjudd
      @curtisjudd  7 років тому +2

      Hi Thom, the NTG2 shotgun microphone, and indeed all shotgun microphones, use an interference tube design to help manage off-axis noise. This is the long tube with slits in it. This works very well outdoors when the sound coming from the sides is different than the sound one is trying to record (voice of the talent vs traffic, etc.) This becomes problematic indoors in rooms where the talent's voice reflects off of the walls because then, the talents voice comes in the front of the mic and a few milliseconds later comes in the side via the interference tube slits. This has the effect of the mic trying to reduce the reflected voice sound and you can end up with a rather odd warbly sound. Not good.
      The RODE, Oktava, and AT we look at here do NOT have an interference tube design and so they don't run into the same issues. It is true that the NT5 has a cardioid pickup patten which is not quite as directional so it will pick up a bit more room sound but it has the advantage of avoiding the phase/warble issue.
      In the end, it is a tradeoff. The Oktava and AT both come with hyper-cardioid polar pattern options which are more directional than the NT5 but at a slightly higher price than the NT5. I hope that makes sense!

    • @gibsonedu
      @gibsonedu 7 років тому

      It does. Thanks so much. I do appreciate the attitude you take in all of your videos; a lot of audio engineers get a kick out of being condescending and dismissive over gear they'd "never use" when in reality it's quality gear that'll serve 98% of folks perfectly.

    • @haraldthi
      @haraldthi 7 років тому

      From what I know, even a cardioid mic relies in interference patterns. It's why you can block the back end of a cardioid mic and it turns into an omni, there's no out-of-phase soundwaves from the back to cancel out the sound. But it's much less pronounced, and thus has fewer side effects. So it's more or less of a problem, only omnis don't rely on phase at all. (I'm nitpicking again.)

    • @curtisjudd
      @curtisjudd  7 років тому

      Interesting, thanks Harald.

    • @David-ud9ju
      @David-ud9ju 6 років тому

      @@curtisjudd The NTG2 is advertised on their website as having a super cardioid pickup pattern not a lobar one, so actually sits between the NT5 and the Oktava and AT. It seems that, with the Rode mics, they actually have lobar for higher frequencies moving to hypercardioid as the frequencies drop.

  • @ULTRA7862
    @ULTRA7862 10 місяців тому

    From this real-world test, I can hear little to very little difference between any of these. I'm not sure if that is a good thing or a bad thing. In your other videos, I can hear a significant difference in your tests between different mics. Probably the most obvious thing to me was that I could discern different speech variations when you were reading the same written passage three separate times. Maybe it would be better to simultaneously record all three mics to remove this variable? I picked up an NT5 last night for a bargain price and looking forward to seeing how it performs. I was set to buy the AT4053B but if they are going to be this close in terms of recording performance to my ear I couldn't justify the price difference.

    • @curtisjudd
      @curtisjudd  10 місяців тому

      Congrats on the new mic, I hope it works really well for you!

  • @amdk7778
    @amdk7778 3 роки тому

    I have oktava mk 012 connected to Focusrite Scarlett Solo. Gain knob set at around 3 o’clock (approx 6 o’clock is max) with distance between subject and mic approximately 30cm to get decent recording volume level. Is this normal?

    • @curtisjudd
      @curtisjudd  3 роки тому

      Seems about right.

    • @amdk7778
      @amdk7778 3 роки тому

      @@curtisjudd Thank you

  • @khan140847
    @khan140847 4 роки тому

    Thanks uve abundance of knowledge. Can i take ur advise. Im setting up new channel for filming. All recording would be done inside. Can u recommend best solution for me i.e lav or condensor mic or zoom h1n anything within budget of $150. I need clear audio that will have impact on my audience. Many thanks

    • @curtisjudd
      @curtisjudd  4 роки тому

      Maybe a used RODE VideoMic Pro or perhaps a DEITY V.Lav? Here's a review of the V.Lav: ua-cam.com/video/-_nPN_9n3Kg/v-deo.html

    • @khan140847
      @khan140847 4 роки тому

      Many thanks Curtis

  • @TinyCamperTammy
    @TinyCamperTammy 2 роки тому

    Thanks for another amazing video!
    I am thinking of taking the Rode NT5 for zoom calls instead of a dynamic microphone. I don"t have an audio treated room and I also sit in front of a big monitor. Do you think there is a chance the NT5 might still sound good enough without picking up too much room noise ? I don't want the mic to be in the frame. For that reason I am considering the NT5 instead. I just purchased the Rode Video Mic GO II and that does pick up too much room noise unfortunately (but it was mainly bought for outdoor use anyways).

    • @curtisjudd
      @curtisjudd  2 роки тому +2

      I expect that the NT5 does NOT have more "reach" or directionality than the VideoMic GO II. What I do for Zoom calls is place the microphone just at the bottom of the video frame so it isn't too imposing but it is close enough to sound good.

    • @canadianlife3406
      @canadianlife3406 2 роки тому

      this is exactly what I'm trying to do. wish there is an option under $300 with decently low self noise and decent room reverb/sound rejection

  • @imark7777777
    @imark7777777 2 роки тому

    Is it me or does The white noise test have no white noise, I had a very short blip at beginning?

    • @curtisjudd
      @curtisjudd  2 роки тому +1

      I posted a comment noting that the maker of the app I used claimed copyright so I had to remove the white noise.

  • @limebulls
    @limebulls Рік тому

    How is the Sennheiser MKH 416T compared to these? Can't decide (Shooting at home UA-cam videos in a small room and want best quality)

  • @karan111987
    @karan111987 4 роки тому

    Mentioned these varients of audio technica microphones (at2021, at4021, at4041) can be used as indoor dialogue. Thanks

    • @curtisjudd
      @curtisjudd  4 роки тому +1

      👍

    • @karan111987
      @karan111987 4 роки тому

      @@curtisjudd ..Thanks for prompt response. Eager to watch a new comparison video of these 3 mics( audio technica at2021, at4021, at4041) including samson c02, rode nt5 & rode m5. Lets see whats ur take on above mentioned mics for indoor dialogue. Especially budget mics like audio technica at2021 vs samson c02, as these 2 falls in similar price range.

  • @SaturdaySoundGuy
    @SaturdaySoundGuy 7 років тому

    I just got a hypercardiod mic called the little gem by ISK. I think it sounds pretty good for $60 bucks. I'm about to record a film in a garage unit turned film set. I also have a Rode NTG-3 which is a much nicer mic. Would you use one of your cheaper hypercardiod mics or a much nicer shotgun?