Keir Starmer the Barrister Gives Free Assistance to McLibel Defendants (1997)
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- Опубліковано 30 чер 2024
- Leader of the Labour Party Sir Keir Starmer may now be vying for the office of Prime Minister, but before entering politics he had a long and distinguished career in law. In this 1997 news report following the judgement in the infamous 'McLibel' case, Keir Starmer explains how he assisted the defendants in their fight against McDonalds.
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Can you imagine Sunak, Truss or Johnson working for free to help two people fight a multinational corp?
Corbyn in Starmers clothing
@@FlightCommanderT Remember when he kicked corbyn out and tried to eliminate him by running a labour MP? Also Kier starmer wants isreal to continue it's genocide, corbyn doesn't. Starmer doesn't want to decriminalise cannabis, Corbyn does. Starmer doesn't want to nationalise energy or transport, Corbyn did. Starmer wants to stay in NATO and keep trident, corbyn doesn't.
Any more or is that enough examples?
If that bothers you, then it makes my day.❤
Oh do get over yourself you don’t know they have done charitable wise. Park your ego!
Yes - especially Bunter who got £27k worth of organic food sent to him at No 10 by Lady McAlpine of JCB - but as with many Western Liberals - Starmer is a liberal only at home it seems - not when it comes to the actions of his settler in-laws in Palestine. Reminds me of Charles Dickens who opposed Abolition of Slavery and wrote of exterminating the Indian Race after the 1857 Revolt.
The journalist should get a medal for coming up with 'the Big Mac vs. the small fries' - genius pun.
That was genius
Not as good as Three-0 Walcott
Can’t believe BoJo appears as well at 3:27
LOL.
No one else commenting surprise that the exact things they called out MacDonalds on have turned out to be true?
What do you mean "turned out" to be true, it had always been true and everyone knows it, that why they spent so much money fighting it.
MacDonalds
It’s not exactly surprising.
English libel law was a complete joke back then. The statements being true wasn't actually a defence to libel! They did change that in 2013 - a change that came about in part because of this very case, so good on them - but UK libel law is still very exploitable.
It isn't true that truth wasn't a defence prior to 2013. It was a common law defence and was widely used.
The 2013 act just made it a statutory defence.
This this the first time Kier is defending the public against a clown.
He destroyed Johnson and Truss single-handedly 3 years ago.
Best line I’ve read all day lol
And not the LAST!
Lol and you always become the thing you hate the most they say 🤡 🤡
@@soleknight3212They destroyed themselves.
It's quite refreshing to have a prime minister who did meaningful things in the previous work, rather than a failed journalist who repeatedly got fired for lying.
I’m amazed how shocked some people were when Boris was effective fired as an MP for lying.
And people say he's the same as Sunak? He's obviously not. I'm happy and proud to know our new PM once defended the McLibel Defendants pro-bono. It says a lot about where his priorities sit.
You're very gullible. It's not as if, right in front of you, you haven't just seen the pr benefit that he gained from it, something that in itself would be worth tens of thousands...
@@danw5760Then I guess you believe there is no such thing as a selfless deed.. so no one can do it. Very unlikely that he got much from this at the time
@@cbcbmad Public defenders get bugger all al the Tories reuduced that to as low as £12,000 per annum and they've still got to somehow pay for staff with that. He was on bugger all then and would be on even less now.
@@danw5760 Yeah clearly he was only thinking of the PR benefit for a an election 27 years in the future before he was even involved in politics
@@danw5760 So if he's bad he's bad and if he's good it's merely for PR and therefore he's bad? No winning with you lot is there
Stuff like this is fascinating. We'll already have several future Prime Ministers out there, unknown, and we've no idea yet who they are.
Hopefully not at Eaton!
I'm one of em! And right now I am sitting in my underwear eating a microwave burger watching UA-cam
And genocide enablers…
They’ll be writing something online now as a child that will scupper their campaign in 30 years time.
@@jaygatsby3039😂😂😂😂 where’s you silly 🇵🇸
The internet was a lovely place in 1997
Yeah it was, full of uncensored and ungated cp and gore images and random screamer gif popping up on random links, and the forums are nothing but undergraduates engaging in petty flame wars using the most foul and nasty language replete with ethnic and homophobic slurs.
@@zxbc1 i guess we were visiting different places :D
Nah, seriously, zx is right. 97 was woefully bad! I remember bestgore being in the top 5 of most visited sites.
It barely existed, but yes
LIFE WAS A LOVELY PLACE IN 1997!!! THE NET HAS RUINED LIFE FOLKES.
At 4:46 you can see Jeremy Corbyn’s name on the screen, where he put forward an early day motion against McDonald’s
A truly magnificent spot! Well done pointing that out!
what a fucking spot
If there was any justice in the world then he'd have won the General Election instead of Boris Johnson...
Amazing! 👌🏾
Yet another time Jeremy Corbyn was in the right
Our 58th Prime Minister
Do you think he will be a good prime minister
@@chrisdawson6156 a good chance as long as he dont get tripped up and thrown like blair was with afgan war and iraq going with bush and brown with 2008 financial crisis where morons blamed him when it started in usa and he helped save the world banking system with his and darlings plan and model for solveing the problem
@@chrisdawson6156only time will tell 😊
@@chrisdawson6156 The answer to that is no. All politicians are the same; only in it for the money.
@@garethflattery3010 true I don't like my local MP
wow, i have never eaten a McDonalds since that case, it pissed me off so much at the time - i had no idea the PM was the Barrister, crazy.
Me neither!
Good for you it’s been a disgrace of a company from its origins.
Little did Keir know that 27 years later he would go on to become prime minister!
Imagine if that lawyer was Prime Minister...
With only 33% of the vote from a turnout below 60%
I guess he'll be nationalising the water companies any time now.
@@sunseeker9581 I guess there's a non-zero chance of that happening....
@@sunseeker9581Isn’t Thames Water notoriously bad?
@@markgt894 cry harder
That's a proper 90's suit.
I wonder how many people watched this random lawyer for 30 ish seconds on the evening news with no idea they were looking at a future prime minister.
Keir rocking the most 90s tie I have ever seen
I wonder what ever happened to that barrister?
Dunno, heard he was campaigning for something
Ehh I doubt he’d go anywhere major, perhaps he could win as an MP or something but no further
Didn't he get knighted for covering up something, for the Royals and the establishment?
@@robambrose4199your thinking of JRM
You're an imaginative one aren't you 🥴
the stain-glass window tie is certainly a choice 😳
Tbh, it was the 90s and I was probably wearing a similar tie in the sixth form too!
@@Daniel-or3vf tbh in the 90s my bowtie/ tie and braces of choice were thomas the tank engine 🤷🏻♂️
The 90s man… 😅
Hahaha, imagine if he wears that tie (or something similar) in a PM Questions
That's prime 90s for you. :D
The screen tear on that computer monitor at the end. Dang!....... we've come a long way.
15hz monitor probably 😅
It's the camera's fault, not the monitor's.
@@eIucidate I don't think that's the case with CRT monitors
We really have!
That was just the sheer lack of performance on the old, unaccelerated SVGA video cards of the day.
Smooth scrolling was not yet something you could expect to get on an average office PC.
It's been denied by Helen fielding but Starmer WAS the inspiration for Mark Darcy in Bridget Jones.
His father was a tool maker.
🤣🤣
@@nw5alive-rn5sk it's true
@@nw5alive-rn5sk it's true
So was yours 😂
@@kimgrant3879 Cab driver*
Shame that "Internet" thing never caught on.
Regarding the last nineties brown-suit: I refere you all to former Have I Got News For You host, Angus Deayton 😂
If you look closely you can also see Jeremy Corbyn's name on the computer screen
The Judge loved his Happy Meals 😂
A time capsule of British fair play.
Nice to see a prime minster that has actually had a career and real world experience.
It shows the Brains of him getting involved in something so stupid.
We want old Stamer back
But he is the old starmer now, this is the young starmer
If you want to hurt Mcdonalds stop eating there
That's what they were doing: trying to encourage other people to stop eating there.
However, McDs thought they could use the legal system to prevent people from criticising them.
Yes, if you’re against one of the largest corporations on Earth, just keep quiet and avoid shopping there. Don’t you dare publicly question them.
If I were to stop eating there, I'd first🎉 have to start, and I don't think I hate my stomach that much!!!
I wonder what happened to whoever did the Ronald McDonald face animation at 3:22. Like… are they okay? Mentally I mean.
The size of the suits 😮
He was in the Talking Heads at the time
People also used to be thinner
Mark Darcy from Bridget Jones.
what an incredible mixed metaphor: 'in the view of some legal observers the company has used a sledgehammer to crack a nut in this case, and it's badly rebounded - leaving McDonald's with egg on its face'
A malaphor!
Ever eaten McDonald’s two days in a row? Too much beige. Makes me feel ill. Since learning to cook from scratch, it becomes increasingly evident that these fast food chains wreck our health. Most people know this too- but we choose to be ignorant of it. ❤
Christ! 90s tailoring was bloody awful!
To be fair this was before the invention of the computer and taste.
A particularly cheap suit. Still he did alright though.
Yeah and you looked just the same…don’t lie 😂
Just fashion innit? There are some suits going about that are far too tight these days. And men walking around in suits with no socks on 😂
I was someone who grew up with those hideous big suits and loud ties from the 80s and 90s. I look at the young'ns going around today with their untucked shirts, colour clash and hairy faces and they all just look like such scruffy fcukers, like junkie chic or something!
Mind you we used to think just as little of the 1970s fashions that came before us too. I guess every generation is cursed to view the way they dressed as sharp and sophisticated, and every other generation dressed like dogs after a run in a muddy field! 'Tis the way of things.
His father ran a toolmaking factory...
😂Keir's face was just the emoji🗿
If this isn't the most 90's thing...
He looks soooo young😂
Why is his youth amusing ?
He's 61 now, making him about 34 then. He does look young for his age.
@@SonOfFurzehatt His hair maybe greying now but he's still got full, thick hair which is even more impressive!! 😄
@@SonOfFurzehatt To be fair, he wasn't doing bad at 34 and already a barrister.
Thought it was Morrissey for a minute 😂
Their leaflet had not one single lie btw. All was factual, and still the couple we're treated like criminals.
What is he doing nowadays?
McDonald’s lost in the end. Shithouse
MacDonalds? I wouldn't touch 'em with a bargepole! #hame on big business and their bullyboy tactics!
#hame? What's that, ham and eggs?
#learnhowtohashtag
#hameburger
Oversized suits were the fashion back then. Not a criticism, just a fact ✅
I’ve got the book “McLibel Burger Culture on Trial” - great and entertaining read! Friends and I actually reprinted the activist’s brochure and handed out at McDonalds here in Australia.
So they still pay low wages and serve unhealthy food but guess that's liable?
2 campaigners were handing out leaflets about the dangers mc donalds including: Bad health, destroying amazon for farms, targeting children with adverts. McDonalds sued them claiming it was lies. It was the longest court case in UK history. 11 years.
There is a documentary called Mc Libel
His voice was normal
His voice has changed a great deal. Strange.
He doesn't sound as bunged-up back then. Now he sounds like a massive coke-head.
Not really strange. He's in his 60s now. Vocal pitch rises with age and bass tones weaken.
He got older.
"Every girl's crazy 'bout a sharp dressed man"!
Trilateral commission
Haldane society
Wow. Simply wow. Netscape Navigator and the finest brown suit Next Menswear had to offer circa 96. Class. Loving the DPM tie too. That's three things isn't it. Jesus.
He looks like Conan O’Brien
THE most 1997 of ties...
Very proud. Well done Sir Keir.
He evil
Ok bot.
I read the/a book about this maybe 20 years ago, when there was an anti-mcdonalds day annually. Didn't realise that it was SKS.
He sounds totally different now
adult puberty perhaps?
@@Nauri_Junda2 yeah probably
@@Nauri_Junda2 sounds like still hasn't reach puberty xD
Why does he look like giga chad
How long has he been working on that walk?
He looked a bit like Gordon Brittas (Chris Barrie) back then, didn’t he?
LOL!
That was then
Bet he never dreamed one day he would be chatting to the US president at this point in his life this was peak Leftie Starmer
He was a barrister but couldn't afford a suit that fit?
Wow. He sounded like a dalek then too
You obviously have dulcettonezzz. But please respect those who don't.
Lol everyone had that tie in the 90s!
look the prime minster 😂😂😂
Even in 1997 most people were humans and not demons. A lot has changed in 25+ years.
touch grass
@@Pipsticks you want me to touch grass? Like the decorative weed? Or cannabis? Is this an instruction or some sort of metaphor?
@@lostpianist It's a metaphor for getting offline and entering the real world. Go talk with real people, enjoy a meal, touch real 'grass' -- rather than spending life living through old and new media as a false reflection of reality.
@@looking_arround oh ok :))) that's very good and kind advice, and today I plan to go for a run outside near a lake and trees and such :)))
If only that Keir was the one entering Downing Street
I do wonder what happened in the intervening 28 years.
Use your head. That Keir is the one entering downing Street but politics is a brutal business. His authentic self would drive paranoid boomers to the polls to vote against him. If he comes across as fake and wooden, it's because he knows the press are waiting to jump on anything he says.
He did with only 33% of the vote on a low turnout
Yeah but people have more integrity and passion when they’re younger. Plus he’s probably been corrupted like most by power and influence.
Not an overwhelming victory but it's how our system works and still would have a majority.
Plus the fact that labour were tipped to win for so long means that low turnout means that people may not have been enthusiastic but neither were they against a labour government in which to vote against@@markgt894
Reporter: Lindsay Taylor, who was a relief C4 News presenter at about the same time as this.
It is unhealthy. They were right on that
Nice one Maccies. Been loving you for 50 years now ❤️
What happened to his speaking voice since then?
Yeah I like his ethos yet I just wish his delivery nowadays wasn't so stale
@@HonkousBonkousneed little more than ethos wtf is wrong with you people being so contempt about the bare minimum
Yeah, it's almost as if he has to tread on tiptoes around a hostile media these days. I can't understand why the barrister who took on the newspapers in the phone hacking scandal (resulting in the closure of The News of The World) wouldn't be widely celebrated as a man of integrity and principle by our press. It almost feels like they'd take a pop at him for something really normal next, like desiring an evening a week with his family.... oh.
@@MrOttman001 oh I just meant his voice sounds more nasal now.
@@Henners1991 Haha, ok. Sorry!
Starmer looking like Mr Brittas here 🤣
"didn't ought"
It made me giggle. 😁
Back when he didn't talk through his nose.
2:29 Michael Mansfield ?
Yup, that's him.
What’s with that walk though
Talk about an easter egg.
Good old Helen and Dave.
Wonder where they are now
He got a free plain Big Mac?
This comment section is worrying 🤣
What happened to his voice?
Weight gain im guessing
Age and further moderation of accent to lessen the working class twang to it
Too many trips to Columbia 😂
He sounds quite similar. Nothing more than how anyone's voice would change a bit as one ages.
He's 27 years older? 😅
I suppose the next question then, kier, is when we'll see that legislation stripping corporations of the right to sue for libel?
I always think... when looking at and judging leaders, and deciding which one to vote for... look at what they were doing in their early career.
Lol, keir starmer appears in this video for less than 1 minute.
It's called "context". The story isn't about Sir Keir, per se, but his involvement in the legal action at the time, "lol", I guess.
He's PM - so that makes it a story of considerable interest.
That jacket is WAY too big for him
But does he still believe today what he said there and then?
Unlikely, the truth is, it's people who pay for the agendas who are really in charge, government is just a show
Do do doo do
Your lovin it
That suit
This guy is crazy. The UK gov then forced to change the law to prevent big company sue individual for their speaker in order to comply with this case.
Terrible suit
That lawyer seems like a decent man. He should run for Prime Minister,I think he will do well.
He doesn't blink, like Hannibal Lecter.
So what did this achieve?
3:56
Who's here from 1998? I'VE SAID TOO MUCH!!!
god look at those suits...
Everything on their leaflet is true.
I mean it’s nice to imagine Keir as someone kind of man against the corporate world but just wait to see his plans with the NHS.
It’s ironic to me that even then you could be sent to court for distributing leaflets; like in medieval times. 😮
“Untrue”…. Now we all know about palm oil. So this did not age well.