After more consideration and additional time playing in high level lobbies, I would definitely move Loki up to mid A tier and Adam/Iron Man to bottom A tier Thanks for all the kind words and feedback, Merry Christmas gamers! - discord.gg/nukeyhd
@@mosmes02 that comp is better but hulk often gets banned. Most common comp for the best team is strange, venom, warlock, mantis, and two dps depending on map
The quality of this tier list video coming from a smaller channel is insane. Easily the best tier list I’ve watched so far. Insta-subbed. Hope your channel grows, man.
Playing wolverine only for kidnapping and protecting backliners reall helped me think he's better than most people think. Tanks do not play the game when I'm up, if I have ult backliners are gonna die and the DPS that their healer showers with attention and love is getting kidnapped. Best part is that I don't have to overextend, I'm doing all these while getting healed.
I want them to give warlock a flight ability. Like bruh he’s Adam freaking warlock and his healing or hp isn’t crazy. Like maybe something like Dr strange flight cooldown.
Cloak and dagger have insane survivability. You can create the healing bubble and switch to cloak, attack and evade with cloak when the bubble disappears
I’m in diamond 1, the only thing I’ll say about this list is that raccoon should be A tier, because of how much healing he can bring, enables double res comps, damage boost is up every 60 seconds if your team is actively fighting. And also be an easy flex pick. If you get stuck having to support you can easily play him and be impactful especially if Luna and mantis are banned.
I don’t think he’s more valuable than other supports though. Should mantis and Luna be banned, Adam warlock, cloak/dagger and Loki are all better picks i think, albeit harder to play.
@@PingachuSbut if you have a bucky or punisher he clears all those characters. Team-ups are such a good mechanic. Same with the Iron Man, hulk, strange combo. Iron is either c tier or a tier. Good game
Peni isnt gonna be good against good players. As soon as someone knows what to do she gets no healing and the mines miss a lot of characters. Her biggest upside is cancelling ults but it sounds like she cant shut anyone off who is used
I love having Peni on the other team! I dink headshots all the time as Luna, Mantis and Adam. It charges ult fast ult and practically have it every fight or fight and a half.
As a Wanda main you've just gotta play different depending on who you're up against. She can play as a flanker or a front line. Just have to read the room.
26:29 i actually have seen this comp one time it was amazing it literally felt oppressive. Storm and cap gets the extra damage they need and storm provides the movement your needs strange plays defense when needed and mantis and luna heal whoever is needed and have plenty of CC as well as having both ults that just say no dying. This is what i want the game to becomes more of and less randomly thrown together teams that make no sense with 0 synergy.
1st player in the world rn if I remember correctly plays Iron Man and Magik so don’t take the opinions of other people for cash. When played right characters can become absolute monsters.
People underestimate Black Widow immensely. You just need a Mantis damage boost every 8 seconds and you can 1 tap any support or squishy dps. Not only that, you can also damage boost her with Storm while she spams chokes with her wind blades. Even if you can't 1 shot people, the AoE slow of her ult is super underrated. With some coordination, Black Widow can easily dominate.
I think that Thor and Spider-man should be B. They just don’t get that much value compared to the alternatives. Rarely see Thor being played if Strange is not banned.
I’ve been playing namor since day 1 he is insane I’ve always been surprised to see people ranking him in C tier. It’s extremely easy to the lead the lobby in damage and kills and get value
Peni and Spider-Man make people fall into the trap where they think they’re doing something because they’re clicking a lot. The value just isn’t there. In plat you can get some value but then again, on plat you can do anything.
As a gm loki one trick. Im offended. I think his an easy A. Definitely not S like luna and mantis tho. Has aoe healing and damage (remember aoe healing is what goats viable in ow.) Does solid damage gr8 burst heals with 3 clones and can counter most ults baptiste style. Very solid at countering and can kill flankers and divers. Gr8 when paired with a main healer who can cover for u when ur clones are down. One of the best off healers in my opinion.
8:02 Pretty much, but then you get my team. I see the Cap dive my backline and I figure they're fine, it's a 4v1. Then I immediately see him kill a support top right and escape no problem, I almost crashed out
Great tier list Small thing to nit-pick but I'm tired of people saying "press Q" or "Press E" or "right click and left click" when it's a cross platform game lmao. The abilities have names and it's easy to communicate in a way everyone knows what you're talking about. Sorry rant over
There's 0 chance hulk which is the 2nd highest winrate tank in top500 is on the same tier as Thor who isn't even played by one-tricks anymore. Thor is in the gutter right now. Penny is also better than Groot.
I swear Hulk in A tier is just propaganda. We’re taking the “he’s good if you know how to use him” thing too far. Even some of the best players are jumping around like hell, constantly bailing out of 1v1s. Watch Zbra if you don’t believe me, it’s literally what he has to do to get half the value of Strange. And you put him next to sit and snipe Magneto? Press shift and absorb everything Magneto?
After more consideration and additional time playing in high level lobbies, I would definitely move Loki up to mid A tier and Adam/Iron Man to bottom A tier
Thanks for all the kind words and feedback, Merry Christmas gamers! - discord.gg/nukeyhd
Aside from the insane Loki disrespect, this might be the most reasonable tier list I’ve seen so far.
It’s terrible, there’s a reason all the best teams run venom and warlock and it’s not because they’re B tier
Not sure about venom, see far more hulks and Dr stranges than venom in high tier play.
@@regd606060 hours in the game and GM, yet to see that comp.
@@mosmes02 that comp is better but hulk often gets banned. Most common comp for the best team is strange, venom, warlock, mantis, and two dps depending on map
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“All the best teams run Venom”
What is bro smoking?
Peni is a monster....against uneducated players
The quality of this tier list video coming from a smaller channel is insane. Easily the best tier list I’ve watched so far. Insta-subbed. Hope your channel grows, man.
Thanks so much!
Playing wolverine only for kidnapping and protecting backliners reall helped me think he's better than most people think. Tanks do not play the game when I'm up, if I have ult backliners are gonna die and the DPS that their healer showers with attention and love is getting kidnapped. Best part is that I don't have to overextend, I'm doing all these while getting healed.
I want them to give warlock a flight ability. Like bruh he’s Adam freaking warlock and his healing or hp isn’t crazy. Like maybe something like Dr strange flight cooldown.
His mvp is literally flying around like a badass too! This is a good fix
Cloak and dagger have insane survivability. You can create the healing bubble and switch to cloak, attack and evade with cloak when the bubble disappears
I’m in diamond 1, the only thing I’ll say about this list is that raccoon should be A tier, because of how much healing he can bring, enables double res comps, damage boost is up every 60 seconds if your team is actively fighting. And also be an easy flex pick. If you get stuck having to support you can easily play him and be impactful especially if Luna and mantis are banned.
I don’t think he’s more valuable than other supports though. Should mantis and Luna be banned, Adam warlock, cloak/dagger and Loki are all better picks i think, albeit harder to play.
@@PingachuSbut if you have a bucky or punisher he clears all those characters. Team-ups are such a good mechanic. Same with the Iron Man, hulk, strange combo. Iron is either c tier or a tier.
Good game
raccoon is just food once you get to like mid gm and psylocke is never banned and just farms you
Peni isnt gonna be good against good players. As soon as someone knows what to do she gets no healing and the mines miss a lot of characters. Her biggest upside is cancelling ults but it sounds like she cant shut anyone off who is used
I love having Peni on the other team! I dink headshots all the time as Luna, Mantis and Adam. It charges ult fast ult and practically have it every fight or fight and a half.
It’s going to be very interesting to see how they balance storm. She’s underwhelming now but with a few buffs I feel like she’ll be unstoppable.
As a Wanda main you've just gotta play different depending on who you're up against. She can play as a flanker or a front line. Just have to read the room.
guys by this natsuki means that you switch off wanda once youre not playing quickplay
What rank are you
I love seeing so many new content creators for marvel rivals, keep up the good work 👍
Penny is bad because if they ban her then she's useless? What kind of argument was that 😭
26:29 i actually have seen this comp one time it was amazing it literally felt oppressive. Storm and cap gets the extra damage they need and storm provides the movement your needs strange plays defense when needed and mantis and luna heal whoever is needed and have plenty of CC as well as having both ults that just say no dying. This is what i want the game to becomes more of and less randomly thrown together teams that make no sense with 0 synergy.
is mantis buff able to make widow's sniper a 1shot on 250hp?
1st player in the world rn if I remember correctly plays Iron Man and Magik so don’t take the opinions of other people for cash. When played right characters can become absolute monsters.
People underestimate Black Widow immensely. You just need a Mantis damage boost every 8 seconds and you can 1 tap any support or squishy dps. Not only that, you can also damage boost her with Storm while she spams chokes with her wind blades. Even if you can't 1 shot people, the AoE slow of her ult is super underrated. With some coordination, Black Widow can easily dominate.
Storm future is already somewhat confirmed with ultron having a flight ability. It’s not perma flight tho.
I think that Thor and Spider-man should be B. They just don’t get that much value compared to the alternatives. Rarely see Thor being played if Strange is not banned.
W Psylock love
Why did Cloak and dagger get moved to b tier? 11:32 Damn that’s crazy the Hela’s in pubs suck
I’ve been playing namor since day 1 he is insane I’ve always been surprised to see people ranking him in C tier. It’s extremely easy to the lead the lobby in damage and kills and get value
The Scarlet Witch disrespect is crazy
3:10 whenever she whats💀
Peni and Spider-Man make people fall into the trap where they think they’re doing something because they’re clicking a lot. The value just isn’t there. In plat you can get some value but then again, on plat you can do anything.
I'm a Peni one trick 😂 😭😭
good video man 👍
Disagree on Loki, in the hands of a good, well aware player, hes good healer. Just hard to cuz people dont know how to place clones
Rocket is my main, and not listed, but my three others are two S tier and A tier
As a gm loki one trick. Im offended. I think his an easy A. Definitely not S like luna and mantis tho.
Has aoe healing and damage (remember aoe healing is what goats viable in ow.)
Does solid damage gr8 burst heals with 3 clones and can counter most ults baptiste style. Very solid at countering and can kill flankers and divers. Gr8 when paired with a main healer who can cover for u when ur clones are down. One of the best off healers in my opinion.
8:02 Pretty much, but then you get my team. I see the Cap dive my backline and I figure they're fine, it's a 4v1. Then I immediately see him kill a support top right and escape no problem, I almost crashed out
RIP me being a Warlock main atm 😔
Great tier list
Small thing to nit-pick but I'm tired of people saying "press Q" or "Press E" or "right click and left click" when it's a cross platform game lmao. The abilities have names and it's easy to communicate in a way everyone knows what you're talking about.
Sorry rant over
Totally fair good point!
Storm should get some aoe to her primary fire
time stamps please
I knew ppl were sleepin on Logan
Grandmaster is top 500 now
There's 0 chance hulk which is the 2nd highest winrate tank in top500 is on the same tier as Thor who isn't even played by one-tricks anymore. Thor is in the gutter right now. Penny is also better than Groot.
penni better than groot? hell nah
Loki is an L because Loki dupes feed Mantis' mechanic
There's no way you have 300 hours since game release let alone over 300 hours your lvl 36 iv got 100 hours and im lvl 40 insane click bait 😂
Game has barely been out 300 hours. Why burn yourself out like that?
Nah Jeff is the best.
Here come all the Reddit experts to tell people “x” hero is only good against bad or low elo players while pros are playing said hero as we speak lmao
I swear Hulk in A tier is just propaganda. We’re taking the “he’s good if you know how to use him” thing too far. Even some of the best players are jumping around like hell, constantly bailing out of 1v1s. Watch Zbra if you don’t believe me, it’s literally what he has to do to get half the value of Strange. And you put him next to sit and snipe Magneto? Press shift and absorb everything Magneto?
Both hela and hawkeye have an unconditional seasonal damage boost, next season hela can't 2 shot and hawleye can't 1 shot
They will still be able to 2 and 1 shot without the damage boost, but the range and amount of charge it takes will be less egregious.
@DjNaste I don't believe hela will 2 shot with 20% less dmg tbh Hawkeye might tho
@turtle4935 you don't have to believe me, you can just do the math. All the numbers are available on the official website.
Not a bad tier list breakdown, but I disagree with quite a few of your choices.