My Political Conversion Experience | Glenn Loury & Russ Roberts

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  • Опубліковано 16 лис 2024

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  • @larrykiehl2457
    @larrykiehl2457 5 місяців тому +6

    Transparency, intelligence, wisdom, and courage: what a beautiful and rare combination of attributes to witness in a person. Thank you.

  • @wdalston
    @wdalston 5 місяців тому +11

    "It's just not enough to be right about liberals being wrong." Damn, that's fantastic and thought-provoking.

  • @geoplaten337
    @geoplaten337 5 місяців тому +4

    Fantastic clip. Prof. Loury should be proud.

  • @jonathangilmore3193
    @jonathangilmore3193 5 місяців тому +2

    The kind of self-critical authenticity that Mr. Loiry exemplifies is courageous. It takes a person who knows him or herself. To know yourself, you often need to have a lot of pain, grief and struggle. Most of us play the blame game; others are criticized. Personal change, drifting away from ideology and into self-awareness and consciousness is, or can be, earth-shattering.
    The gain is often in general understanding that was not there before, greater kindness to others and a fuller heart! Harder, much harder, to be tribal and ideological!

    • @harrymills2770
      @harrymills2770 5 місяців тому

      I'm a liberty-and-limited-government ideologue. I find that those two principles lay out a very simple map for navigating politics. A very simple litmus test for government policy. That's why I'm neither left nor right. Heck, I don't even think "left" and "right" carry any real meaning in modern parlance.
      There are regressives on both right and left. There are also true liberals on the so-called right, and outright reactionaries on the so-called left. It's tricky, trying to parse the regressive left for what it is, because the so-called progressives use language so cleverly. What they call compassion, I see as a re-branded form of feudal serfdom..

  • @johntimby7447
    @johntimby7447 5 місяців тому

    Your autobiography is an important piece of work. You are a great American. God bless you man.

  • @englishrendezvous8074
    @englishrendezvous8074 5 місяців тому +3

    There was an enemy within Loury and within the Southside of Chicago, the Bronx, Compton, and "Philly" etc. I'm Black and am from a city in Georgia. I've never known anyone to go to jail, sell drugs, or commit a gross act of violence. Most elders married and certainly cared for their children when marriages dissolved or never happened, on the rare occasion. The Black people who populated my environment refer to the same news of inner city violence and poverty with incredulity as the rest of the world. Listening to this language of "we" and "us" is such an alienating experience. My broader community was not rich or even a rock solid upper middle-class, but middle class with flimsy assets but high aspirations. All the same, there is this bind that some young Black people in the South encountered years ago in which they wanted the "cool" of Loury's communities, their ugly manhood, and they started to mimic what they saw in art though we didn't have the economic drought that created the real character in these places.

    • @mariefrench44
      @mariefrench44 5 місяців тому +1

      Wow, thanks for sharing that! Awesome!

  • @Say_When
    @Say_When 5 місяців тому

    .... 2:21 this may be one of the best questions I've heard asked in an interview just from a structural and curiosity perspective...
    Extraordinarily well thought out... And very well articulated... The fact that the interviewer has done his research in a very detailed and exhaustive way. I feel you get extra leeway extra flexibility when it comes to the pointedness or the toughness or the hard-nosed cattle prodding aspect of a question... You get to go deeper much much deeper if you ask a question like that.. You're letting the person you're interviewing no, without a shadow of a doubt that the interviewer has taken their work seriously.. but their questions will be intriguing and thought-provoking and revealing...
    Bravo, great! Great question....

  • @robertmitchell8868
    @robertmitchell8868 5 місяців тому +5

    Glenn is right, we still want solutions. We know the Left's answers don't work, but we cannot stop trying.

    • @mariefrench44
      @mariefrench44 5 місяців тому

      Yep, the left's solutions really don't work. Now let ALL people be able to speak freely, openly and honestly about what they see as problems, so that solutions can be found. For the most part, it's a case of "God helps those who help themselves"... or "Give a man a fish and he eats for a day; teach a man to fish and he eats for a lifetime".

  • @clapclap5452
    @clapclap5452 5 місяців тому +2

    I think we all should struggle to live moral lives but we should also give way for great ideas, art, intelectual work by flawed individuals,they’re work should be judged on their merit only.

  • @reginahay5231
    @reginahay5231 5 місяців тому

    I just this minute came from a Dave Rubin-Sargon of Akkad podcast. There is a difference between Classical Liberalism and what is called “liberalism” today. One is friendly, benevolent, and strives for a better world. The other is power hungry, grasping, and cruel.

    • @laertesindeed
      @laertesindeed 4 місяці тому

      Classical liberalism is just part of modern conservatism, now..... to be honest.

  • @Rixdog01
    @Rixdog01 5 місяців тому +4

    Good grief, Russ. Shorten it up!

  • @mariefrench44
    @mariefrench44 5 місяців тому

    I really admire Glenn's courage to speak the truth about himself and to look at the issues from both sides. I especially like his statement: "It's just not enough to be right about liberals being wrong." He asks why do conservatives not want to help??... I hope he is willing to also hear some answers. I hope I don't get crucified by the public for this but here goes... If NON-blacks quote any information about black performance, crime rates, marriage tendencies, drug use, the fact that they are demanding the lion's share of representation tho they represent only 13% of the population, etc then that non-black person is accused of being a racist and a bigot. The attitude of many blacks today (at least those whom I have personally encountered LATELY) is like that angry and defiant statue of MLK that we see in DC. Black attitude is often not friendly or approachable... it's a warning to "stay away". MLK was a gentle, peace-loving man who knew how to reach out and bring people together. He was not defiant and trying to grab the lion's share of all things in reparation for something that happened 150 years ago. If blacks demand reparations then they should demand them from blacks in Africa, because it was their own countrymen who sold them into slavery in the first place. Read Thomas Sowell... I like what Thomas Sowell, and others like him, have said about ending black victimhood too. It's hard to find solutions when you are not allowed to talk about the problems without being called a racist and a bigot.

    • @AldiAldiFPen
      @AldiAldiFPen 5 місяців тому

      Unfortunately, what you stated is misleading at best, so you are about to get crucified.
      Firstly, show me an example of Black people requesting the "LIONSHARE" of representation? For example, is Black people wanting Historically Black Colleges to receive the 13 billion dollars stolen from them by state legislatures requesting a lionshare. That is a drop in the bucket compared to what other colleges receive. I am curious to hear your LIONSHARE examples.
      If you want to quote statistics we can do this all day. I talked with the director of our local hospital. He said all the drug overdoses they treated for the past year were for White females. He went on to say White females by far represent the most drug abusers not only in our county but the region. Do to the nature of my job I can see the number of White females arrested for drugs in our area. Our county had ZERO White females arrested for drugs. Since you are Miss Statistician please explain how White females are the biggest drug users in this county, but represent 0% of the drug arrest? 🤔
      Contrary to your assertion Black people are friendly. However, any self respecting Black person has zero tolerance for racist drivel. As well they should. If you have any problems with the country take it up with southern conservative white bigots. They are the ones who have been running this country post Reconstruction. Part of your problem is you read people like Thomas Sowell. He is nothing but a conservative robot programmed to tell White people how great they are. I do not know a single Black person who does not think Thomas Sowell is an absolute disgrace. You should read the works of a respectable Black person like James Baldwin. He explains when and why Black folks may have what you call an "attitude", “We can disagree and still love each other unless your disagreement is rooted in my oppression and denial of my humanity and right to exist.”
      -James Baldwin
      Your stance of Blacks receiving reparations is laughable. Firstly, I do not have to go past 1940 to justify reparations for Black people. Do you believe the Black World War II veterans who were nefariously denied the GI Bill deserve reparations? Need I remind you how the Federal Highway Act of 1956 was purposely used to destroy Black communities with highways. I have not even touched redlining and there are numerous other examples I can provide of this nation's depravity. You might want to learn about Afonso of the Congo and Olaudah Equiano before you go spewing uneducated nonsense about Africans participation in the slave trade. The institution of race based enslavement is scarlet letter branded on your European and American forefathers.
      You are bothered by what you called the "defiant stance" of the MLK statue. 😲 You have got to be kidding me. Then please explain to me how Blacks should feel about the endless statues, flags, street names, and memorials to confederates who murdered, raped, and tortured our ancestors? You clearly have not studied Martin Luther King Jr. beyond the I Have a Dream speech. What you really mean is as another renowned Black leader said you want Black people to SUFFER in silence, peacefully, and quietly. An Asian friend of mine correctly said America does not understand peace. They only thing America understands is the sword. No oppressed group of color has ever gotten their freedom "peacefully".
      You also do not believe Martin Luther King Jr. was for reparations.🤦‍♂ Well, you could not be more wrong. You might want to listen to MLK's, "We are Coming to Get Our Check" speech. Below is an excerpt:
      "At the very same time that America refused to give the Negro any land, through an act of Congress, our government was giving away millions of acres of land in the west and the Midwest. Which meant that it was willing to undergird its white peasants from Europe with an economic floor. But not only did they give the land, they built land grant colleges, with government money to teach them how to farm. Not only that, they provided county agents to further their expertise in farming. Not only that, they provided low interest rates in order that they could mechanize their farms. Not only that, today many of these people are receiving millions of dollars in federal subsidies not to farm, and they are the very people telling the Black man that he ought to lift himself by his own bootstraps. This is what we are faced with. And this is the reality. Now, when we come to Washington in this campaign, we are coming to get our check."
      - Martin Luther King Jr.

    • @laertesindeed
      @laertesindeed 4 місяці тому

      Conservatives "do" help already.... no idea what Glenn is talking about there.

  • @rickstevens1384
    @rickstevens1384 5 місяців тому

    The modern interviewer....don't ask a direct, simple question to the guest.

  • @Aule22
    @Aule22 5 місяців тому +2

    I want to suggest the problem is not so much not living up to one's chosen and or proclaimed morals. The real problem seems to me in the self delusion that one can actually be a moral leader. That is where it all goes wrong.
    It is not an original idea to say, go and try to live a moral life, and not be concerned so much about leading others. But now we get back to the why conservatives are not really moral agents, part?
    Conservatives are not really moral because no matter what they say is their moral center? Before long they are running around telling other people how to live. Trying to be moral leaders, and such nonsense.
    As if they have any idea what a solid morality actually is? Insert any critique of moral foundation theory here. Haidt's excuse making about how conservatives have an alternative moral core is hogwash! Controlling other people isn't morality. It's controlling people!
    My short version is that the further away you get from respecting human self hood, agency, and right self determination (without harming others), the further away from any kind of actually valid, moral core value. But conservatives get all lost in controlling other people. Not themselves.

    • @swcordovaf
      @swcordovaf 5 місяців тому

      Says progressives who beat the drum of climate change who over consume and over pollute and live in such a way that the me could never tell what the concern is that has them all wrapped up in a lather. I don’t think conservatives have any corner on hypocrisy. I think it is in human nature to cry a cause and in the same breath be the biggest undermine of that cause.

    • @dunbarcustomsound
      @dunbarcustomsound 5 місяців тому

      This. Right. Here.
      As a good pastor told me, “Manage yourself. Don’t worry about managing or leading others. Manage yourself.”

    • @swcordovaf
      @swcordovaf 5 місяців тому

      All political movements are mired in hypocrisy of those who put forth the tennants. Climate change, BLM, wokeness, etc. the conservatives have no monopoly on hypocrisy.