Top 5 Most Underrated Guns

[@magnusolsen691]

If you pick .45-70 for your lever action, you don't even have to hit them. They'll hear it go off and run away thinking you're firing artillery at them.

[@deadlybladesmith3093]

😂

[@ca9968]

Same with .45 ACP in a confined space, I had a situation in South Africa where 5 guys broke into my house, I caught them in the living room and let off one shot, I hit one of the bastards and the 4 others, although armed with a mix of handguns and an AK ran for their lives!
My ears were ringing for a good day or so after

[@michealdean3750]

Well isn't it actually a small cannon?
One of my favorite shooting video's is an older fellow on his porch ringing targets set on a hill 800, 1000, even 1200 yards away.
It's like seeing lightning flash off in the distance then counting the seconds until you hear the thunder so you know how far away the storm is.

[@rexlee3710]

If the bullet don’t get you, the sudden rush of sh#t causes pain and near instant death.

[@tufelhunden5795]

It's always fun to pull the 45-70 out at the range. Pine or two rounds and people are looking around to see what's making all the noise. 😆

[@snail415]

I have always felt the most underrated rifle of all time was my Red Ryder with a compass in the stock.

[@uan588]

I dropped 4 ton Buffalo wiff red Ryder.

[@hammerslammer3006]

500 rounds on board. Its not about energy its about how many rounds down range. 🤠

[@saltysailor6689]

Careful, you'll put your eye out !

[@somewherefarfaraway9018]

I agree for being a springer its got decent fps and the sight system is simple easy to fix. These days red riders have a crappy plastic lever tho :'( coleman co2 lever action repeaters are better sadly and by better theyre better by miles and have a piece that comes out on the top that allows you to load pellets in- in single shot and the high quality and adjustable sights and enough power to compete with a lever action .22 lr i thiiiink.. if not then i was thinking .22 short

[@somewherefarfaraway9018]

@@beansbeans5651 you might. But chances are you gotta attach a rail yourself and i wouldnt waste the time or money unless theres a co2 variant because you just wont get the velocity for anything other then iron sights on a rail or a reflex or holographic if you want a rail rider bad enough haha im lame

[@alanwheeler5722]

Lever action “they don’t look very intimidating to a Judge or Jury”… 😂😂😂. Love it

[@cbeaudry4646]

Lol, it took me a sec when he said that, then I was like "Wait..."

[@cdgonepotatoes4219]

That's a fair argument, always consider appearences when you're thinking about self defense because while a firearm hobbyist may see a gun as it is, you need to always assume you'll have to appease peanut brains that piss themselves at the sight of an AR if you ever go to court because you defended yourself. Even in Texas, no, especially in Texas yeehaw self defense will put a smile on everyone.

[@DXM556]

I like how he appreciates that fact that "it looks pretty cool". Some people just don't understand that it is ok to do, or buy, or make, ect something just because it looks cool or is cool. Great video by the way. :)

[@dynamotightstar3472]

I'm totally with ya there. I buy bikes based on looks coz they're cool. (motorbikes) they sometimes ride like shit but they still look cool! 😃

[@randysmith9636]

Bottom line,
Life's too short to carry ugly guns.

[@randommodnar7141]

@@dynamotightstar3472 i agree, let's not act like aesthetics isn't
like 30-45% of the reason we choose a certain gun over another lol

[@dynamotightstar3472]

@@randommodnar7141 hell yeah, I bought my Remington 700 purely on how it looks.

[@randommodnar7141]

@@dynamotightstar3472 a man of great taste haha. The mossberg 500 vs remington 870 is a great example, honestly aside from the safety position you have two excellent shotguns; I just always preferred the look of the remington. Hell half the ak guys only choose it cuz it looks more distinctive than the ar

[@phantomspaceman]

Why do lever actions persist? .45-70 govt., it's the only government you can trust.

[@nicholashoward3967]

Would like this twice if I could.

[@CHMernerner]

agreed

[@FrankinJax]

I absolutely trust my government! I trust them to overtax me. I trust them to make laws I don't agree with. I trust them to order me around. And I trust them to lie like a rug.

[@CHMernerner]

@@FrankinJax and they declare war and kill innocents all the time! amazing 😇😇😇😇😇

[@sirjorahmormont3448]

I'm guessing nostalgia, and it conquered the wild western frontier of this continent. Additionally they still are quite effective.
My father bought me one so I could deer hunt at eight years old and was not capable of properly shouldering the Winchester Model 70 30.06 I inherited from my grandpa

[@victornichols2020]

Lever can be reloaded between shots. With a little cover between volleys that's an infinite magazine!

[@stever8776]

Also Pump Shotguns

[@growlikethewind5788]

That's a really good point 👍

[@theiranxican7412]

Exactly. Emergency reloads in the chamber is the equivalent of a everlasting gobstopper lol. It serves its purpose quite well with levers, bolts, and pumps. It almost makes me wanna sell my Kel tec RDB for a lever action but I think that might be pretty damn foolish. Still gotta practice the reload proficiently like any other firearms training!

[@blakedavis2447]

Top off loading

[@Baurakale777]

That is a thing that I love about my shotgun. You don't need to drop a mag to reload. If you do a tactical reload with a pistol, and you don't remember how many rounds are in each of the magazines, you can end up hearing click instead of bang.

[@Hercules1-v9m]

Due to the ammo shortage I have started carrying a revolver. I have gotten pretty good with it and despite the lower capacity and slower rate of fire I don't feel under guned. Lower capacity just means I use a much larger caliber.

[@matthewbissonnette2658]

Accurate shot placement beats spray and pray any day..

[@ringofasho7721]

My open carry is a 41 mag Blackhawk, and to be honest I like it more than my concealed colt. With that 6.5 inch barrel it's really easy to hit paper plates at 100 yards, and it's a certified 300lb hog killer

[@romeolima5339]

@@ringofasho7721
The revolver is truly a semi-auto pistol. A " sem-auto" is really a one chamber single shot. Consider a first round dud or an empty chamber. Yep, one chamber single shot fail. Slap Jack and rack.
BUUUUT with a five chamber revolver, no problem semi-automatically pull the trigger again, rolling in and sending a fresh one.
That is why I carry a revolver.
I shot a lot of IDPA matches and have personally witnessed many first round fails. Empty chambers and dud rounds. Revolvers are the only intuitive semi-autos in the world. If the firearm fails to fire,? You just pull the trigger again to fix it.
NO ORHER FIREARM CAN DO THAT●

[@romeolima5339]

@twin
You might read it again.
I am not making claims nor was I debating. I was and am absolutely educating.
So read it again with a clear mind. Eliminating any preconceived notions that you have heard your whole life. You will learn something. Referring to the first line kind of tells all.
Read the whole thing.

[@SKBottom]

@@romeolima5339 capacity is a concern, that's why I carry two 38 snubbies. Carrying two is also known as the Chicago reload.

[@magicg8112]

We have several lever actions and a LOT of revolvers. These are what I grew up with. Yes. I am a older person, but after using the “cowboy” guns for over 50 years, they are still my comfort zone.

[@em-rx1wy]

I didn’t grow up with them, but I’m growing old with them. Love my cowboy guns 🤠

[@joeljoel5061]

I feel the same way. I own a few pump action rifles and a lovely 30-30 lever as well as a couple bolt guns and a beauty single action snib nos revolver. All !y guns are wood and have leather Cary bags, straps, bandoleers and holsters respectively. It just feel right to me. I grew up with the tool kit I own. Much of it is inherited.

[@jsmiley12]

“It’s almost like it’s up to the shooter...” 😂🤦🏼‍♂️😬

[@rickc2102]

Yeah, I didn't like double-action as much at first, but it's called practice. It's amazing how independent that trigger finger can get.

[@jasonstl636]

@Chris GeorgeOpened up the safe to dry fire for the first time in a couple months since I'm not doing the $1 a shot thing. Found that the old S&W Model 10 is a lot better than the new 2020 Python and the CZ Shadow 2 is uniquely predictable. You can't compare a SIG P220 to a 1911.

[@FfrankieG176]

His wife’s Smirked made it funnier 😂😂

[@siamsasean]

"Couldn't quite possibly be that the internet's wrong." Of course not, that never happens.

[@redace4821]

The fact that he said it with a straight face is even funnier

[@mrguiltyfool]

Guns are like pokemons gonna buy it all

[@lilrod2943]

New video: Top 5 Most Underrated Comments

[@nealh6212]

I'm done for a while. unless..... My store gets a Mare's leg Rossi.henry. chiappa I don't care. and a 6inch Python.

[@JacksonWalter735]

@@nealh6212 I always wanted a Chiappa. You can't find them at any ranges around me and I don't feel comfortable enough dropping so much money for a revolver I might not like.

[@nealh6212]

@@JacksonWalter735 Yea they're kinda a big investment. I don't buy too many big expensive things and i just came into some money so.
First guns i fired were revolvers and bolt actions. They just look so weird but cool I had to get one. Less recoil and moon clip ready. My HKS 10 fits them also. If you ever get the chance to shoot one try em out.

[@idontanimategoreanymore1138]

My favourite gun is m79, it’s an explosive type gun (this is supposed to be a pokemon related joke)

[@melloncollieowl]

In a survival situation:
The revolver and lever action share ammo.
Have the lowest rate of failure.

[@JustAGuy93-G]

.38 and .357 are pretty common too. So ammo availability is a big plus.

[@douglasmcneil8413]

@@JustAGuy93-G And, if you're into reloading, You can get even more bang fore your buck.

[@46miles]

Thanx! I learned some more!

[@user-nb8yt2il2r]

why would you want them to share ammo? id rather have weapons that shoot a variety of ammo, that way if i cant find any .357, maybe i can find some 9mm or .45

[@melloncollieowl]

@@user-nb8yt2il2r Ammo is heavy. You'd rather only carry one type of ammo in bulk opposed to small amounts of 3-4 different types.

[@zackarywilliamson6861]

This guy's videos are so informative and helpful to a complete beginner gun owner like me!Thank you.

[@Absolute_Goblin]

"it's a happy sounding gun!" Dude your wife adds a certain charm to the show. Great job

[@blaineedwards8078]

Plus she's cute and I bet a great cook. I'm so ugly I couldn't get laid in a women's prison.

[@63DW89A]

@@blaineedwards8078 CAREFUL! I resemble that remark. I could take $10000 into a Nevada Brothel and still not get a "girlfriend"!

[@blaineedwards8078]

@@63DW89A 😄🤩🤘🤑😆

[@brownwrench]

Revolver does not leave brass behind, if you get where I'm going.

[@BB-1990]

Always wear gloves when you load your pistols. You don't want to get lead poisoning from handling the rounds, ya that's the reason.

[@achieflint1899]

Still traceable though...

[@Tatusiek_1]

@@BB-1990 Lol your fingerprints wont stay on the bullet after it has been fired at a super sonic speed then ends up shredding itself into a target

[@BB-1990]

@@Tatusiek_1 LOL IDIOT!
Your fingerprints will stay on the casings, that pistols eject!
DERP!

[@BB-1990]

@@achieflint1899 Not traceable if the gun had been sold or stolen.

[@waynerigsby6905]

Thank you for promoting the lever-action rifles! They are legendary and my personal favorites!!

[@wesscoates5676]

My old man said a few years ago "if you're in a gun fight, and you see someone pull a revolver, get outta there. Either they're really stupid for using something that has a slower reload time on average, or they know how to use it."

[@009013M3]

If someone draws a surplus Taurus .38SP, you're probably fine engaging as normal.
If they draw a nice Smith performance center or a worn-out Dan Wesson, you should probably run.
If they draw a 6-1/2" single-action, you should very quickly and politely apologize, and *then* run.

[@preacherF-15]

Or all they had was a revolver, or they watched a miculek video and developed an overblown sense of self worth, or they don't know how a semi auto works or...

[@robinroper3062]

I have a model 19 S&W 357, I use speed loaders for fast load.

[@preacherF-15]

@@robinroper3062 you think you can get off rounds anywhere near as fast as a guy carrying a super high capacity 9mm with 3 extra mags, or even a 7 Rd 1911 .45 with 3 extra mags? I've run alongside some great shooters, including Jerry. No way can they keep up, and he'll be the first to admit it. He told my department "people love to brag on my behalf for how fast and accurate I can shoot a revolver in competition. But when you really break it down, I'm working and practicing a lot harder to be almost as good."
His opinion is that a civilian who doesn't shoot a lot may be at an advantage to carry a small to medium frame revolver as a ccw weapon. But a professional shooter, especially in LE, is really putting himself at a disadvantage.
It's really not even a serious argument anymore. Back when semi-autos and ammo were more prone to failure, there was perhaps some justification for it. These days? Not a chance. Get a semi-auto and spend a box a month on the range, a little draw and dry fire practice at home.
I own my own range, I've been a gun collector and armorer for 40+ years, and I reload. I couldn't tell you the last time I had a failure to fire (outside of rimfire) and I shoot everything from my own reloads to bag-o-bullets from the gun show, to competition rounds like federal match king, and tactical loads.
Guns have improved dramatically. At first I attributed it to the fact that as my income grew, I bought better firearms. But for the last 20 years I've bought everything that caught my eye, 1911 clones, various Spanish guns, weird pawn shop guns I stumbled across, and just guns that I knew would be crap but I wanted one to play with...Taurus Judge comes to mind. Many others, lol.
Occasionally I'll find a gun that just won't run. First thing I do is run it through my six ammo types, just looking to see if it's ammo finicky.
Next I tear it down and look for an obvious issue, a QC issue, a spot that needs milling or polishing, etc. If I find something I go exchange the gun if I can. If that can't be done or if it doesn't help, I tear the gun completely down
I clean, grind, polish, replace parts, improve the basic design if I see an issue that may be worth pursuing. If I find a solution, I take pictures and send an anonymous letter to the manufacturer. If 6 months goes by and they haven't fixed it, I'll post an anonymous fix online. I used to post a UA-cam video, but YT has gotten so stupid about firearms posting I rarely bother with them anymore.

[@billbill9392]

Only one gun I regret buying (kind of) is a German made Mp40 pistol it was an impulse buy it works well if you have heavy grain sub sonic 9mms but finding those today (well really any 9mm) for a decent price is as hard as finding hens teeth. nevertheless with the right ammo it is a fun range toy wouldn't exactly count on it for any defense situation

[@stevekynard6658]

Being an old school kind of guy, I love my revolvers and lever action. The big 45 slugs will get the job done.

[@BB-1990]

Same, i want the .327 revolver and lever gun combo.

[@markterrell3594]

@@BB-1990 The .327 Federal Magnum is an underrated round! Almost bought one last Summer!

[@brianmacdonald3292]

@@BB-1990 I'm in for 327 also. I want a twin for my ruger LCP in 357.

[@peeepeeepoopooo7541]

Can’t be an outlaw without a revolver

[@wolfman8749]

Revolvers. Bc autos jam at the wrong time

[@evin98]

@@wolfman8749 Hallelujah brother.

[@yulusleonard985]

@Chris George Im sure they also eat good quality ammo. Since auto also affected by ammo quality. Revolver can eat low quality stuff down to black powder, some time you wont be able to buy good quality ammo.

[@yulusleonard985]

@Chris George Its count as good quality if its not Russian.

[@Dang_Near_Fed_Up]

@Chris George Ok American outlaw. lol

[@jonsays3762]

One of the few things my brother has ever expressed interest in "wanting" was a double barreled 20-ga, and I happened across a Stoeger in a pawn shop. They're good all arounder's for everything, with a slug or some squirrel shot. He's got a wife and a small child in the house who appreciate learning on it.

[@acid6urns]

the maverick 88 is a perfect all rounder gun and it’s cheap as hell

[@royschultz1377]

I have revolvers and semi autos. For the most part I've carried a revolver for the last 40+ years. Full size 4" stainless steel Ruger Police Service 6. Conceals quite easily. Also fantastic for point shooting

[@timrussell6740]

Honest Outlaw, "revolvers are very slow to reload." Jerry Miculek, "what the heck you talking about?"

[@davidcampbell4465]

Ever heard of speed loaders for revolvers? Practice, practice, practice... beats loading 1 bullet at a time.

[@waterheaterservices]

Miculek America Great Again

[@sherlockbatmanholmes892]

I read that in his voice

[@bobbybonham5079]

After I fire my first six. I have all day to reload

[@LuvBorderCollies]

Slow???? I beg to differ! When I was younger and shooting PPC with revolvers I could dump empties, reload a Smith K or L frame with Safariland Comp(duty style) speed-loaders and be back firing accurately, faster than any auto-loader shooter. It takes practice x 100k min, lots of dry firing practice on top of that plus early 20's lightening reflexes. Doing anything fast AND good takes work, lots of work and money which means you make choices....beer, hobbies, gambling etc etc or having the discipline to really hone your shooting skills.

[@wervenom3513]

Never seen that triple barrel before. That thing is sweet

[@davidjensen2411]

You can't believe how light they are, until you're holding one!

[@mrpibb7781]

Ian McCollum runs one dressed as Jesus and calls it the Holy Trinity. Good video on Forgotten Weapons or InRange I forget. Hes not sacrilegious or anything people just call him Gun Jesus

[@brittakriep2938]

In Germany this is simply a Flintendrilling. Usually a Drilling has two shotgun barrels and a rifle barrel, but also two riflebarrels and one shotgun barrel is not unusual.

[@mikedavies5682]

@@brittakriep2938 Rifle Shotgun used to be fairly common..

[@brittakriep2938]

@@mikedavies5682 : Translated into german : Büchsflinte, this means a hunting gun with one rifle barrel and one shotgun barrel.

[@zelpyzelp]

I feel a lot of the people that dismiss 22lr as being far too weak for defense tend to forget that it's, y'know, still a bullet with enough energy to easily pierce the human body lol

[@dynamotightstar3472]

You know it! Like all these people are superman or something. It takes a 45mag to stop me! 🤣🤣 I'm strictly a .308 burglar! 🤣 I'd stop burgling for a.22 airgun if I'm honest.

[@beldenkevin]

@@dynamotightstar3472 "oh, it is only a 22, I can take it" said no one ever.

[@fixerupperer]

@@beldenkevin said lots of people who didnt have a .22 gun pointed at them at the time.

[@certifiedcat9010]

Oh no, I forgot about more bullets. You can't just shoot more 22s at me what the fuck.

[@Alex88302]

I love caliber snobs lol. I got a lot of shit when I got my Makarov carry pistol because the 9x18 mak is similar to .380. Always get the same "that caliber couldn't stop anything!" I always ask if they wanna volunteer to get in front of it and get the same response. A bullet is a bullet regardless of size. Unless you get down to .25 auto or something, almost any caliber can be effective.

[@fanbatcher]

I have a Chiappa Triple Threat in pistol grip configuration. I installed an Streamlight light under the barrels and keep it loaded with #4 Buckshot with three modified chokes installed. Very effective out to 25 yards...

[@AngelicusEXperiment]

I've never been of the mindset that all handguns should be revolvers, but I do believe all handgun collections should have at least one revolver.

[@jebediahkrimsoncraftleding3012]

They're just fun

[@christophersullivan3480]

110% agree I am 38 years old around the age of 25 my interest in guns went from hey that guns cool let me see it or hold it to ok I need to protect not just myself but my wife and kids and when I went to buy my first gun my pop who was president of a Teamsters local like Hoffa lol carried a gun 9 times out of 10 was his 9mm beretta every single day up until the day he died said to me and I’m paraphrasing “Now remember you always want to have a back up plan and I asked what do you mean and he said well remember any gun that takes a clip full of bullets has a lot of moving parts that all need to work at the same time to get one of those bullets to come out and stop it’s threat so what’s your plan b when maybe one of those many moving parts dosnt do it’s job and that bullet not only doesn’t come out but it Gets stuck and makes the rest of the bullets in that clip useless and that threat is now coming right at you what do you do then and I answered I don’t know pop what do ya do and he said you pull out your revolver and bury it in the threats chest 😂 so when I left the gun show that weekend I had a 9mm glock and a 357 2.5in revolver haha ya know PLAN B 😂

[@AngelicusEXperiment]

@@christophersullivan3480 Well, I can certainly agree with the philosophy of carrying an off-hand weapon. For me, personally, said weapon is usually a knife that I can access quickly. In fact, in most proximity encounters, I'd probably use my knife as the primary weapon. My gun serves one of two functions: Either to defend myself from an active shooter, or to defend myself from hostile wildlife. Before the days of Biden, I was quite content to let a revolver serve both purposes, but with things as they are now, I'm officially dividing tasks, and choosing my gun based on the environment I'm going to. Still, my 3 inch SP-101 is a great dual-purpose weapon, and when our nation is a little more peaceful again, I'll be putting it on double duty again.

[@panzerlambert1194]

Real handgun collections have far more than one revolver in them

[@johnm948]

Only one?

[@trentsoutdoors321]

Honest outlaw makes a really good point about how revolvers are really underated

[@808BigShorty]

The first 15 years of my career in Corrections, my side arm was a S&W 626 with a 4” barrel, and it’s a very accurate gun. I personally owned and enjoyed shooting my Ruger GP100 in .357 Mag. With a 6” barrel. It was the smoothest production handgun I ever shot. With speed loaders reloads we’re just about as fast as semiauto pistols. I also still own a Mini 30 by Ruger. Love that action with that 7.62x39 round. I’m a new fan, and been enjoying your content. Keep em coming!

[@LairdErnst]

There’s also new models of lever action, like the Henry Long Ranger, that use a magazine to hold a variety of calibers: 5.56/223, 7.62/308, and 6.5mm creedmoor just to name a few. Four to five round capacity magazine depending on the ammo. A shorter lever motion for a faster rate of fire. Could do with an honorable mention.

[@brianfalls5894]

Hey there Honest Outlaw. I really like what you had to say about lever action rifles. As for me I currently own a Henry .357 mag lever action rifle and to be honest I love that rifle. I've sold off some of my other firearms in the past to get some extra funds to pay off some bills but my Henry and my 1911 are 2 firearms I don't ever plan to part with. I don't understand people not liking a lever action. They are reliable and accurate too. Not to mention they are a blast to shoot. Keep up the good work and the reviews.

[@evin98]

I think he said that just to spice up the video. Everyone lovers lever actions.

[@ohtehlolz]

As a former CSI, I've seen a lot of men killed from one or two shots of 22 LR. Before I had that job I only carried a 10mm or 357. Now I roll with a 9mm or .380. Shot placement. I would be able to defend my home with my 10-22 without question.

[@scooterdogg7580]

yup multiple impacts in a confined area will put a big hole in ya

[@LuvBorderCollies]

If bad guys used ammo other than FMJ our homicide numbers would be double or triple higher. One case we had a lady was shot in the head just above the ear with a 9mm from approx two feet. Bullet stopped inside her skull above the opposite ear. She could've died and was on life's razor edge but she recovered. On the flip side you can die from a .22LR to the stomach or leg. Bullets don't always have predictable or consistent results.

[@mr.k.i.s.s7496]

I think more people have been killed by a .22 Rim Fire than any other caliber in center fire. From .22 short (originally made for pocket guns and target shooting) to the .22 Magnum.

[@matthewbeaver5026]

@@mr.k.i.s.s7496 I've heard this b4 and would argue. The reason has more to do with people under estimating it's lethality & accidents. Than it does with it being a wise choice..

[@Richter-89]

Look up the American 180.

[@robjurbala84]

Love your reviews. Any one of these guns, I wouldn't want to be on the receiving end. Anybody else? Shot placement is key in all scenarios! You can be finished with a small rock.

[@magmadude35]

My dad has a .44 marlin that i absolutely love, it's crazy accurate, he's dropped bears with it from 100 yards, I've seen his custom rounds make a larger hole in 1/4 inch steel than the round itself. That lever action in the right hands is bloody scary

[@bobscar327]

Bravo-
revolvers, lever guns, & 20 ga...works for me, too.

[@georgeadcock2347]

Love my lever action rifle. Who didn't like "The Rifleman?"

[@alansheedy3956]

My favorite.

[@IronCypher]

Best old cowboy show ever 🙂

[@hillsman9199]

I was practically raised by that show. It really made me appreciate lever actions.

[@Gregsgreatfood]

I have 3, and love bringing them to the range.

[@MrGrxxx123]

Lucas is the man!!

[@punglao8261]

"...they have cream filled ones if you're hungry.." lmao

[@grandpa9607]

I have a Revalation 20 Guage pump. I have had it since I was 18. I am 60 now. And it still shoots great. Like you I love lever action guns also. You are a very intelligent young man, I learn from you all the time. Great video.

[@honkerman74]

3:00 Revolvers can be reloaded more quickly (and easily) with a speed loader. For those who are serious about carrying a revolver, a speedloader is an excellent way to reload almost as quickly as reloading a semi-auto. The downside is that they are a bit bulky.

[@ericharman2159]

Why revolver, only need one shot

[@honkerman74]

@@ericharman2159 That's an ignorant comment. It leads me to guess you have little knowledge of the subject.

[@stefan6189]

@@honkerman74 in a perfect world we would only need need one bullet but. Not in the real world if your shot placement ain't good you could dump a whole mag on someone before they drop I watched a video of a dude taking 40 something shots and was still standing and fighting with the cop it was a headshot that ended that fight .

[@honkerman74]

@@stefan6189 I agree, which is why I called ignorance on the comment that suggested such an idea.

[@stefan6189]

@@honkerman74 sorry bud I meant to tag the other dude in there ,
But most definitely that way of thinking won't get u too far in this crazy ass world .

[@swhedge71]

Outstanding review! Love my lever action rifles and my revolvers! It's like first learning to drive a car/truck, start with standard and move up to automatic. Once you learn you never forget. Thank you Honest Outlaw for all you do!

[@seansteele1269]

You forget one of the best things about most revolvers, their effectiveness as a melee weapon. Pistol Whipping an adversary is a great way to adjust their attitude without adding extra holes in them.

[@rustybird8803]

You evèrhèard of à LOCHABER ÀXE? ĢO ÞO ÀCE HARĎWÀRE .... ÀßK FOŔ A bùßh axe

[@preparedmindstrongspirit5724]

The reason that fell out of favor was crushing the trigger guard in on the trigger.

[@LordRuckus]

Heavy is good. Heavy is reliable. If it doesn't work you can always hit them with it.

[@KBWrecker]

Any steel frame gun can also be used that way in a pinch

[@MW-bi1pi]

Believe me, the hardest you can hit someone in the skull will never collapse a trigger guard on a steel revolver. Maybe an aluminum frame airweight or something...

[@DanoSeer]

There will always be a use for a good revolver. Ease of use, simplicity, reliability. My next .357 will be the Ruger GP-100.

[@ColonelMarcellus]

I have had three Ruger GP-100 revolvers, one of which is my wife's. I regrettably sold the third. Rugged and reliable, taking the same speedloader as the more popular S&W 686, and specifically designed for the unlimited use of .357 rounds, and I LOVE the wood-in-rubber stocks that used to come with them. (I don't like finger-grip stocks because they never fit.) My wife and I both keep Ruger GP-100 revolvers in the house. I carried one for several years as a reserve police officer. I can recommend the GP-100 without reservation (unless you get those damned finger-grip stocks; then it's up to you whether you like 'em or not).

[@ericharman2159]

My go to

[@TexasPatriotOffRoadAndOutdoors]

You can place a stick of dynamite in a GP100, or any River revolver for that matter, and it will keep on shootin’.

[@dbpx4]

I carried a S&W 66 .357 for years as LEO. How to develop great double action trigger control: load snap caps or use dry fire, place a quarter on barrel just at the front site and practice squeeze the trigger, without displacing the quarter.

[@kashishimotohoward]

I'm only 50, and you made me feel old as hell with that revolver statement! That's all I shot when I was introduced to firearms. LOL 😆, where I'm from, people didn't trust semiautomatic pistols in the mid 80's, so I never saw one until I joined the Army.

[@RJBond121]

It's preference for most people. The 9mm semi auto is old enough that cowboys could have had them in their holsters.

[@michaelcrawford3663]

No worries he doesn't speak for all the young people. I'm 25 and I prefer my revolvers over most of my semi autos. .44 mag for the win.

[@markterrell3594]

I hear you! I do own a semiautomatic but I will never part with my .357 Magnum or even my .44 Magnum!

[@pliskenx51mm83]

@@michaelcrawford3663 I love my Smith and Wesson 17-3 .22lr and Heritage Rough Ride Single Action .22lr. I'm also 25. I want to get a .357 revolver of some kind next and Single Action in .45 LC as well.

[@michaelcrawford3663]

@@pliskenx51mm83 heritage is a fun gun. If I might make a suggestion. Ruger gp100 is a fantastic and classic 357.

[@hookeaires6637]

Love the lever action. My family has a Henry .22, Henry .327 Federal Magnum and two JM Marlins, one a 336 30-30 and an 1895 GG 45-70.

[@thomasgarrison3949]

I had a 9 shot, .22LR revolver back in the 70's & 80's. As you said: shot placement is important, back in the depression, when money was tight, my dad used to kill full grown hogs with .22 Shorts, on Grandpa's farm. I like that you mentioned two of my favorite guns, the Colt 1911A1 & the Winchester lever action 30-30.

[@VH_Rules]

All 5 are a winner in my book 👍 Great firearms that will stand the test of time

[@bagelmanman2937]

I got my grandpas 45. Revolver when he passed so I have a lot of love for that gun

[@chuckm4540]

You've got a wicked sense of humor. "It's almost like it's up to the shooter." "Or maybe you're just a big A-Team fan." "Everybody's got that weird uncle or that crazy guy at the bar that tells you he shot an elk in the eye with a .22 pistol." Your videos are some of my favorites because of solid advise mixed with good jokes.

[@mechredd]

My father deer hunted with a fully rifled 12ga single shot for well over a decade. A few years ago he started complaining about recoil so I convinced him to buy a 20ga semiauto. He found a used 11-87 for cheap. I cleaned it up for him, installed a new thumb hole stock, and also a rifled barrel with scope.
He's hunted the last 3 years with it, shot it a bunch and has taken 2 deer. He really like it. I've shot it a few times and the recoil is very soft. 20ga doesn't kick much to begin with and the Remington gas system is one of the softer cycling actions available.

[@JacksonWalter735]

It's always a great day whenever you mention or shoot a revolver. I know most channels tend to focus on semiautomatic pistols (they're so much more popular with different brands), but it's a refreshing change of pace whenever I see you talk/shoot a revolver.

[@willy-yum5820]

Yea imma buy a revolver before I’d buy a semi-auto handgun

[@trigger3654]

I totally agree with you on all these. I have 2 ruger gp100, 4" and 6" and if I run out of ammo I can beat them with them lol keep up the awesome videos!!

[@David_T]

I have the 4". As he mentioned, I like practicing with 38 ammo since it has less recoil. Even though the GP100 is a beast of a revolver, I can start to feel it after half a box of 357 ammo.

[@jackdempsy7696]

Lol right I'd rather be shot by my 44 mag than someone beat me with this 4 pound anvil

[@jasonh8043]

LMAO !!!! I've also got the 4" (GP100 !!!) :-) and it's so true ! Big honkin' piece of stainless steel.

[@David_T]

On the other extreme, I had a friend with the Ruger LCR in 357. I pulled the trigger once. I gave it back to him before I went and iced my hand.

[@AMX86]

Those big revolvers also double as boat anchors😁

[@aniquinstark4347]

Revolvers are very underrated in my opinion. Sure, they're slow to load and hold few rounds but you sure as hell don't wanna get hit with a .357 magnum or a .44 magnum.

[@AB-xf7li]

Even a 38 special has more power than any seminauto round

[@sgt.sharky9832]

They aren't even that slow if you buy speed loaders.

[@clintfalk]

@@sgt.sharky9832 If you hit your target in less than six rounds like you are supposed to, then you don't even need to reload. Let's face it, civilian defense scenarios rarely call for military type weapons.

[@sgt.sharky9832]

@@clintfalk and this isn't about what you think someone else needs. This is about people like you limiting what they think they need. Tell me, have you ever fired at a target that takes cover or a moving target with a pistol? You are exactly a person that should never even comment on guns at all.

[@AZbyNite]

“They probably have cream filled ones” that killed me🤣🤣🤣

[@blantant]

Totally agree about the beginner friendliness and intuitiveness of the lever action's manual of arms. Especially for the older generation that grew up watching the classics, like Terminator 2.

[@stevelux9854]

Heh, Terminator 2 vs. "older generation", and here I am thinking westerns from the 1960's.

[@jerryguizar7073]

@@stevelux9854 I was going to mention 'Have Gun, Will Travel' and 'Bonanza' as classics. Guess I'm getting old.

[@mr.k.i.s.s7496]

Terminator 2 is a classic? I was thinking more like anything John Wayne.

[@chucklakin49]

Remember: The lever action is the original assault rifle.

[@Baurakale777]

Brown Bess was the original assault rifle. It could fire at 3x the rate of the guns owned by civilian colonists. The revolution started when governor Gage attempted to confiscate military grade rifles from the colonists.

[@Richter-89]

The first guns period were "assault rifles."

[@scottphillips2870]

Remember the spear was the original assault rifle.

[@michealdean3750]

@Wikidog Until someone invented the sling.
Then tribal elders began to enact rules as to who could pick up a rock, let alone using one for defensive purposes.

[@ricks2651]

It was a musket.

[@rickyrobertson8064]

Competency AND honesty works every time. Great videos!

[@toddlenard7602]

I think if most normal people were shot with a 22 they would probably stop what they were doing and say damn I've been shot 😁

[@Bob_Adkins]

They would say "I've been sh-ah-ah-ah-ah-ah-ah-t!"

[@Thepaintballinfool]

Honest outlaw video that start with a lever gun! Yup this is gonna be sweet!

[@JDTN1985]

When I hear about people ragging on lever guns, I like to point to what Karl from InRangeTv did with one at the last Desert Brutality match. IMO that man proved that a lever gun truly was the first assault rifle and is still more then viable as a defensive rifle today.

[@sipofsunscorchedsarsaparil6052]

@E Getting shot is the risk of being in a gunfight. You won't do better just because you carry something the collective hive mind burped out as better. Turns out training and practice can probably beat equipment. I wouldn't really feel outgunned if I was carrying a lever-action in .45-70 or .30-06 but that's just me.
I don't think anybody is calling them (lever-actions) superior, but they are still viable in the opinions of many people and I think they are right. At the end of the day if nothing else, it sure beats nothin'.

[@hammerslammer3006]

@@sipofsunscorchedsarsaparil6052 all true. If you watch CAS match ,a person that knows how to use them they are viable...

[@cyborgslayer2552]

Lol checks and horses are still used to this day which means they are viable.

[@davidschneider9145]

@Sip of Sunscorched Sarsaparilla
You could still use a lever-action and it is not bad. But if your fighting multiple people with semi-autos at once, you will probably die. It takes a giant amount of work to get a lever-action running just as quickly as someone without any training on a semi-auto.

[@sipofsunscorchedsarsaparil6052]

@@davidschneider9145 That seems reasonable. I do not doubt the power of the lever-actions because to put it simply it's what I like.

[@chaddickerson1887]

"It's a happy sounding gun!"
Precious. That's why it's my favorite, ma'am. Deadly, accurate, and doesn't deafen or intimidate me.

[@claysills4598]

my go-to home defense gun is my ancient Marlin .30-30. One-shot stop. Only throws brass when I tell it to. Fits my hands and shoulder perfectly.

[@weissrw1]

"It's a happy sounding gun." Now that's 2nd Amendment!!!!!

[@WalterBlomquist]

I had to rewind to make sure I heard that correctly, because at my age, who isn’t an “A-Team fan?” 😂 By far the best reviewer. With knowledge and humor, can’t beat the Honest Outlaw!

[@northernzeus768]

I have a 1920.., Winchester 32 cal lever action with octagon barrel. It was my grandpas hunting rifle. Smooth as silk and easily my favorite gun.

[@stanlysteemer4872]

When I was a young man I had many revolvers. Easy to shoot easy to clean.

[@Dang_Near_Fed_Up]

Revolvers also have another inherent advantage over many semi-autos, you can press the barrel against a target and fire. Semi-autos, depending on design, will be out of battery and will not fire if the muzzle is pressed against a target. In brawling / hand to hand struggles this can be a severe disadvantage.

[@kl0wnkiller912]

Had a Mini-14... jammed a lot, especially once it got dirty.
I am on my second S&W 686 and love it. Tack driver.
I have a 10-22 with all the add-ons but my favorite .22 rifle is my grandfathers Winchester Model 63 Carbine. Best semi-auto 22 I have ever owned.

[@TheDankCat127]

A .22 rifle is a must if you live in a rural area. They’re great varmint rifles and won’t wake your neighbors if you need to do some midnight pest control. I don’t even need ear protection with mine.

[@girdielbohmer2148]

Cheers from Brasil! This Rossi 38spl is one of my favorite guns to shoot, it´s smooth, precise and reliable. And of course has a lot of style! Pretty sweet lady! The only downside for this lindona is the slow reload speed. Hunters here use them chambered in 357 Magnum, or 454 Casull for Hog hunting. Many prefer them instead of semiautos. Really a terribly underrated gun!

[@ADRay1999]

My favorite lever action rifle is the Winchester Model 94 in 30-30
I actually took my personal 94 hunting this year

[@PetuniaIii-pd1ww]

I just got mine back from the shop...I'm already happier...and 30-30 will knock down anything it hits...

[@RUSTYCHEVYTRUCK]

I have a 94 in 30-30, it’s great even tho mine has bent iron sights

[@mikedavies5682]

@@PetuniaIii-pd1ww Its a big slug. Silvertip ammo rocks in those

[@outlawpat8038]

Marlin 336 hear

[@bonniebethel1234]

Love my Winchester 30-30. Had it for many years, my first rifle.

[@johnbicknell8512]

I still love them. I policed in the 60's and carried S&W model 19 .357 . I also have a Dirty Harry with a 4 inch barrel. Mostly shoot .44 specials in it .

[@weezeezy3293]

I like how when he uses the lever action the recoil just forgets to exist

[@sharkfinnigan]

It’s a pistol round. It isn’t going to kick much

[@nathanstotts1585]

Mini-14 is most definitely not a underdog. They have been tough to get for years. The cost is outrageous compared to any other rifle.

[@keithoades5516]

Mate, you spoke about wheel guns being slow to reload! I've been using a moon clipped Ruger GP-100 for a few years now and the guys reckon I'm just as fast on a reload as the auto's. But you do have the good taste to be using a Ruger!

[@Falconryder]

Except with the autos you're reloading 15 round magazines, not 6 round moon clips. Plus with I can swap out magazines without even taking my pistol off target, round in the chamber the whole time. We're not going to pretend that revolvers are just as fast as semi-autos, are we?

[@keithoades5516]

@@Falconryder The mag/ cylinder capacity aside, I''m talking last shot to first shot times. In practiced hands the reload can be fast, just look at Jerry Miculek! Not saying I'm that fast, but I'm not that slow either!

[@Falconryder]

@@keithoades5516 However fast Jerry is reloading his revolver (yes I've seen it,) he would be even faster reloading a Glock, if he put the same practice time in. He's also not a good example for what most people look like reloading. I'm glad though that you have your reload time down. That's a good thing, and takes a fair amount of practice with a revolver.

[@chrisurschel6832]

Years ago I carried a 3.5" birdshead single action Shopkeeper in 45LC. It was when I SASS shooting. I have a nice leather holster and it rides nice and tight. Also year's before that I managed a auto parts store and couldn't wear a gun visible so I have a little 22LR auto that slipped in my pocket. It's a Star, Lancer. Fire's every time and hits what you shoot at. Have never seen another one in the almost 40years I've had it.

[@danemassie3750]

I put a Tac Con trigger on my M&P AR15 and it was a major game changer, it took a while to find the sweet spot with the trigger but once you’ve got it it’s on!

[@dezrttortis3697]

Revolvers, Lever Actions and Pump Shotguns, can be stored ready to go. It was easier to train the wife and kids. Semi Auto and Mag fed takes longer to train. Love the Vids.

[@Richter-89]

I suppose if you aren't a great trainer, sure. What actually stops you from keeping semi-autos ready to go? I can assure you, they don't sprout arms and legs and begin to operate themselves no matter what the commies tell you.

[@bbqguy777]

I still use my Great Grandmothers Marlin .22 lever action from 1935. It’s a great rifle.

[@stacybaldwin3346]

You get 4 out of 5 stars. 20 gauge is a damn fine shotgun glad you mentioned it. Lever action is a damn good rifle, fast and accurate. Anyone who doesn't like the lever action probably shouldn't reproduce. 1911 my favorite automatic. Where you lost a star is discounting the guy who talks about dropping an elk with a .22. Yes a .22 will most definitely kill an elk if you shoot it between the blinkers, or in one, or ear hole it. . Long rifle is perhaps the best round ever made. ,22 magnum is just flat nasty, and very under appreciated.

[@jamessettle9222]

I've got two Rossi M92s; one is a 24" rifle in .45 Colt to match my Peacemaker, and the other is a 20" carbine in .44 Win Mag/.44 Special. They're 'race-tuned,' for smoothness, reliability, and speed. Plus, they're more fun than I've had in years.

[@r.parker8299]

You've been getting my votes every day for the "Gundies". Some tough competition in both. Good luck 🍀🤞👍.

[@HonestOutlawReviews]

thanks man!

[@rotaman8555]

Lever guns are awesome, and in the hands of a proficient user they are fast and accurate. And in terms of raw power, a Marlin, Henry or Winchester loaded with a hot .45-70 round is hard to beat.

[@williamquire2115]

My dad bought me a .20 guage when I was a kid for putting in the lawn in our new house I worked all summer for that single shot shot gun I loved it and I still love a .20 guage today at almost 60 years later it always done the jop man I miss my dad

[@ColMason]

the Ruger mini-14 is also a good option over the AR15 for southpaws, as the AR tends to eject brass right down your shirt, leaving burns on your neck that i call "brass hickeys". The AR/M series weapons have a cumbersome plastic deflector available for lefties that uses a spring loaded bearing that seats in the round hole midway down the "carry handle" on the older models. The Ruger ejects brass straight up and to the rear and is not likely to toss red hot brass down your shirt. Firearms manufacturers have made many accomodations for left-handed shooters, but the AR, is just not for those with this sinister bias. Thanks, great channel

[@idlethreat7193]

"Or maybe you're just a big A-Team fan". I wonder if anyone born after the late 80s even knows what you meant by that! Made me laugh =)

[@lemhanback9595]

Probably not I chuckled at that one as well.

[@EfftupSmith]

made me chuckle too. Back in the 80's as a British kid I assumed they were AK47s as they had a curved magazine. We rarely even got Soldier of Fortune over here.

[@Darkwolfsbane]

Born in '97. The A team's the show with the black guy with a mowhawk and a shit ton of gold jewlery, yeah?

[@EfftupSmith]

@@Darkwolfsbane That's the one. Mr T with the jewellery is also in Rocky 3, Face is also in Battlestar Galactica, and Hannibal is in Blue Max.

[@dynamotightstar3472]

@@EfftupSmith George Peppard is so old he was in breakfast at Tiffanys too! Great actor.

[@tlock4616]

Took my 20 gauge pheasant hunting. My buddy told me I wasn't going to knock a pheasant down with it. I limited that day AND I knocked one down that he wasn't able to hit with his 12.

[@chevyon37s]

Your buddy sounds like an idiot that doesn’t understand shotguns. A #6 pellet going 1300fps is still a number #6 pellet going 1300fps doesn’t matter if it’s coming out of a 12ga, or a 20.

[@nativestone1577]

. Are you Harry and Floyd from dumb and dumber?

[@scooterdogg7580]

lol got lots with a 410 as a kid , ducks and rabbits too

[@tlock4616]

@@nativestone1577 what's your point, or do you have one?

[@tlock4616]

@@chevyon37s he was going off of experience.

[@johns9478]

Another major advantage to lever actions, revolvers, and pretty much anything that isn't semi-auto is that they can function reliably with black powder or with less stout smokeless powder loads than we might use under more ideal circumstances, which is really nice in times where both ammunition and reliading compinents are scarce.
As for the Chiappa Triple Threat, I've wanted one for a while but it's just hard to justify the $1,000 price tag when you can get a good pump action or double barrel for less than half the price.

[@imperfectlump6070]

I bought a Mossberg Maverick for a third of that.

[@wallyrossow3141]

An old State Trooper taught me how to dry fire with maximum control. We didn’t have snap caps back then so he used spent casings. Balance a penny or a dime on the end of your barrel and dry fire all you want but don’t drop the coin😎

[@bryanb.386]

20 gauge gets the job done fine, and my bum shoulder is happier.

[@kylejohnson1308]

Amen buddy. I love my 20 gauge. 👍

[@ninevoltromeo]

My favorite shotgun in my Citadel Pax 20GA. It's actually kind of fun to shoot, and I can put 40 or 50 rounds through it before I start to feel it.

[@BB-1990]

Yep, after 3 spinal and surgery on my right shoulder, i will be stepping down to 20ga.
12ga will have to be a semi-auto with a Limbsaver on it.

[@tallak9829]

My grandfather told me two things when I was 18. Get a revolver over an auto action handgun because one day your not going to be able to rack the slide. Get a 20 gauge shotgun because one day a 12 gauge shotgun will be too much gun for you. Seeing my grandfather unable to use his firearms that he cherished really opened my eyes.

[@nobodyimportant5417]

Love my 20 gauge. Mines a bolt-action, with an integrated adjustable choke. It was my father's when he was a kid, and it's tons of fun. Even a lot of gun folks don't expect a bolt action shotgun.

[@javagoblin1585]

"revolvers are semi affordable."
Man, I wish this was still the case around me. Last time I was in a LGS a GP100 had a pricetag of 799.99
Its a rough one out here, bois.

[@nikik5567]

Revolvers were always expensive in my state. Even the cheaper ones were like mid to high Glock prices

[@Raymo2u]

The S&W 460VXR Performance Center I'd like isnt affordable IMO either...

[@hawk66100]

People don’t realize shits real on the streets

[@jasonhatez3287]

So expensive good revolvers. I was told by my training officer in 1993. Ur back up will be a revolver. Only revolver ur aloud to carry. SW or Colt. Everything else want to be them. Still have my det. Special.

[@FoulPet]

He regularly reviews $1000+ guns so at some point he lost touch with reality. That or he buys used Taurus guns at the pawnshop. Doesn't review revolvers often either so could be he had no idea what a 686 goes for.

[@BuddWolf]

I just purchased a Chiappa triple threat 12 gauge and I love❤️ it.
Thanks for the video post and best of 🍀luck to you and your family 👍🏼

[@davegeorge9538]

I enjoy the fact that you're using work gloves( bright too), and not wearing a plate carrier, all high speed / low drag. Like those guys with tats fully sleeved, asking about my guns at the public range.most of my holsters have the eagle , globe, and anchor on them. When they notice often they'll say, that's cool, I was going to join, but.....
Great content, subbed!

[@madladdigbick1324]

The GIGN still use the .357, I remember one quote saying something like, “If you can’t do the job in 6 rounds or less, you’re doing it wrong”

[@cgirl111]

My 3" barrel GP100 will never leave my collection and my EDC is an SP101.

[@alinpass2246]

If I ever have a home intruder or go hunting; lever action is prolly the last id grab, but I love them for being so much fun to shoot

[@pfrancis7483]

Amen, about the 20 guage! Even 12 guage has been expensive, unless bird shot. So I bought a relatively inexpensive 5+1 20 guage Stevens for $259, plus $15 for shipping, on layaway, then invested in about 1,000 3" and 2 and 3/4" #4 shot for about $400 in the last three weeks. Go 20 guage if you absolutely can't find any other ammo and outright short of any defensive weapons. They work!

[@joshortiz1576]

I like revolvers just as much as semi-auto.

[@rickc2102]

I like their trigger and look, but everything else falls to semis

[@PetuniaIii-pd1ww]

In our house the missus has two revolvers, I have one and two automatics...we keep the revolvers loaded all the time, but not the automatics...hmm

[@stephen_crumley]

@Chris George you realize there’s several different frame sizes of revolvers don’t you? Large frame Smith And Wesson’s are enormous, same with rugers

[@walterdanielswalter.r.dani7628]

@Chris George Hi. Try an N-frame S&W. A large frame revolver with whatever size grip you'd like to add. My S&W target model M-25 in .45 Colt has huge factory grips. too large for me for when I opt for the .45 over the .44 mag salmon fishing in brown bear country, so I just swap out the grips. One screw! Take care.

[@jasonczfan8658]

Lever actions are some of the funnest to shoot and I love the old look of them. People that hate them probably haven’t shot many of them

[@mattfleming86]

I love mine. 30-30 with some zippy 125gr hollow point handloads. Mild recoil, GREAT terminal effects, and paired with aperture sights. Is it an LPVO AR? No.. but i'd have no trouble using it for just about anything either. Light and thin to. Comfortable gun to carry.

[@randysmith9636]

I'm a old fart so I started with revolvers. Your only other option was a 1911 (my absolute favorite) but in the late 60s, 70s accuracy wasn't the best unless you spent a few dollars.
Then Kimber, God bless them, did exactly what the industry said couldn't be done.
My revolver selection ranges from a S&W 360 PD .357 (smallest) to a S&W .500
Every pistol I own is a 1911 except for a 945
My favorite is between my Valor (incredible out of the box) or my Nighthawk.
Yeah I know, but that Valor, especially for the dollars, just feels right, sweet trigger and is extremely accurate.
Thanks for another great video brother.
Stay strong

[@clayvining7661]

I have a 1894 model Winchester 30-30 an I love it is a little rough around the edges but is still one of my favorite guns

[@zarektheinsane6656]

Lever actions are really versatile firearms and if all else fails the thing works well as a club for when you run out.