Andy Thomas I just looked into it, why would they have reason to suspect a rise in atheism has caused that? It just seems like a fringe piece of literature from someone with nationalistic and anti-semitic sympathies.
@@chaseharrison5469 I've heard from a couple of places that it's a socialist ideal, something like what "godless atheists" would be about. I can't remember the quote or where I heard it. Just one of those, yeah whatever, moments that I thought about later. I have been called a communist for saying that I didn't believe as I know others have. I am not a communist.
This makes sense. Take a look at the countries where Åsatru is the strongest: Norway, Sweden, Denmark, Iceland, Finland. All of them are doing quite well for themselves comparably.
God's blessing/punishment is a really convenient scapegoat. Whenever bad things happen, it can be blamed on sinners/nonbelievers/heretics etc. Whenever good things happen, the religious can steal the credit by proxy.
Violence + Hate against Gays - please inform yourself via videos like 'GOP vs Queer' by 'Some More News' and please use the Entire Channel of Telltale Atheist, who uses his channel to document not just Weirdos like Greg Locke and Kat Kerr, but literally all of Radicalization happening right now in certain Groups. He’s such a valueable info-source, especially if you wanna always know who to vote against to not have flat-earthers or qanon or any of that in Office.
There seems to be a common misconception that you can't have a decent moral society unless it is based on christian values. Apart from the Unites States, most western countries would disagree. Greetings from New Zealand. We are doing just fine thanks.
@k1w1 Yes Ray Comfort and Ken Ham CAME from the radical parts of New Zealands and Australia's christian segments... but they went to the US as their views were too extreme for even their supporting structures AND there is way more money in religion in the US... so i would not remotely compare that just based on "Comfort dropped out of a lady's lady parts over here"... You seem e.g. to be doing SIGNIFICANTLY better with accepting sensible Corona isolation measures for good effect, while the US has this "who are they to tell us how to stay safe, that is god's job" crowd which takes great steps towards turning it into a nationwide tragedy. Sure not every antimasker in the US will be religious, but the venn diagram has a lot of overlap there. As countless video snippets can show, be it the lady driving around saying "why would i need a mask i have been bathed in the blood of christ" (ewww, yech!) or that poor old woman still working as SECURITY GUARD (WTF???) that whined about how masks meddle with gods beautiful breathing apparatus... yes that is annecdotal, but it shows two points where it was religion that drove them to mistrust basic health recommendations and it's not just two people out of millions refusing to listen to common sense and not follow any appeal to simplest human decency...
@k1w1 the US is in the neighborhood of 80%, but it's falling. The problem is that roughly 1/3 of that 80% are zealots who believe in forcing their version of their religion on everyone. If they can't convince with words, they will force it into the laws. And no, in the US conservatism and religious extremism are almost 100% hand-in-hand. Not completely, but nearly every conservative I know is also a religious extremist. Preachers are at the pulpit screaming about how god will protect the faithful from Covid and only heathens wear masks.
I'm not sure what New Zealand is like but the US is pretty mixed. It's a superpower with about 60 percent of the country who are agnostic/atheist who believe in science and about 40% who are over the top religious nuts who think science is the devil's work, the earth is flat, evolution is a lie and that their God is bigger than your God so it's okay to invade and kill as many "savages" as they want.
No. By EVERY metric, including overall quality of life, and in EVERY impartial study, the best nations are the least religious and the worst are the MOST religious. This is simple fact and is not open to denial or 'controversy' among logical, sane and educated people...anywhere.
Thats the thing. Anything and everything is open to denial. How many religious people suceptible the the arguments debunked in this video do you think gets recomended to watch this by YT? Thats why I make this comment, I get what you mean, just want push the video a bit. Might reach someone who realy could use seeing it.
@Rakscha sad that you are not an atheist anymore and you start having theist "logic". As the video shows, It,s trying to debunk the statement "a nation Who believes in god is blessed", and repeats that only one factor is not enough to determine it. Maybe you are happier because it comes with ignorance now that you,ve lost the ability to think for yourself
That why so many religions, especially here in the US bash on higher learning and even go to campuses to protest. That's why the toxic cheeto loves the uneducated.
Better education = Better Jobs = More money = Less starving (and being dependent on church donations for your food and clothing!) = more questioning of dogma = less religion :) (there: My version of that :D but essentially the same!)
No. The idea of God is a concept of reason to begin with, it alimented hundred of years of philosophy from Aristotetle to Avicenna to Kant to Descartes. And the same entity, God, is the central figure of all monotheist religions. So stop thinking that believers are stupid because they don't think critically or something like that, you are mixing salt with sugar. If you want to critice stupid dogmas you have to argue, me as a muslim im fully reassured that my religion is in agreement with reason. And i'll.give you a simple proof of God's existence, since you tried to pass religious people as poor thinkers. The proof of God runs as follow. There is no doubt that there is existence. Every existent, by virtue of itself, is either possible or necessary. If necessary, then this is the existent being sought, namely God. If possible,then it will ultimately require the necessary existence in order to exist. In either case, God *must* exist. (Avicenna, Shihadeh 2008;213)
Also the safer people feel, the less they turn to religion for comfort. Hence why US is more religious than EU. There is no/bad/inefficient social safety or medicare
Im trans, promiscuous, and an atheist. Anlaking hate na sinasalo ko. Sobra ahahaha.. Sex shame, homophobia and transphobia merged together, anddd yeahh the fact that im an atheist as well, especially dito sa pilipens, many are conservatives.
I can confirm: living in the secular hellhole of France, I'm really longing to emigrate to Uganda. These civil marriages and this prosperous and secure welfare state are really killing me :-D.
@@droupscoup Are you living in one of those christian paradises (is there a plural?) by any chance? Yes, please do redeem me of these horrible pagans :-D!
@@alexanderfo3886 😂😂okay sure... But to be totally honest, it seems like my country is lowkey also becoming more secular. Mainly the religious is the older people being of age ranging between 30 n well death 💀 but then our youth, there are many skeptics who are not afraid of asking questions. Young people who dont just accept what the authority says(which can be both good and bad). But because of that, we can see the corruption of our country which seems many of our elders dont see and also causes many of the youth to be secular. My favourite thing about being in South Africa, using data we seem to be the most secular country in africa. And happen to be the only two countries in Africa that allow gay marriages for example.
@@droupscoup I see, you're really not in the worst part of Africa, and I can only admire how South Africa has gone from a racially segregated military dictatorship in the 80s from one of the best places to be in Africa right now. That's quite an accomplishment, and I have to give you South Africans quite some kudos for that. There's still much to do for sure, but at least, you've got started. Just keep asking those questions, you will come to some conclusions at some point for sure. And hopefully, some neighbouring countries will take a leaf out of your book and start asking questions at all those holy men. Good luck to you, and here's to a secular South Africa for everybody, whatever their color or orientation!
I have faith in a person until they disappoint me terribly. I have faith in Government until it screws me over. I have faith in preachers until I see the 30 bedroom mansions some of them own. But mostly my faith is spent on what matters most, faith in myself that I can be a good person... because I can back that one up.
@@AsmodeusDHare I have faith in fuck all until I get proved otherwise. Most people are totally undeserving of faith being the vain and fickle species that we are. Have faith in yourself and you won't go far wrong...hopefully
Faith is believing something when there is no evidence for it or in spite of evidence against it. Faith is not a virtue, not something to be respected, and 9/11 showed how dangerous it is.
@@WarmWeatherGuy 9/11 I'm confused, oh I get it now, I can be a bit dense sometimes. Personally I think all organised religious groups have much to answer for. They're all corrupt and rotten to the core and have had centuries of practice brainwashing their unfortunate practitioners.
@@AsmodeusDHare I tend to think of this as "trust." I trust people and organizations when they have demonstrated they are *to be trusted.* If I trusted them without such demonstrations, then that would be having faith in them.
The funny part is that those who brought religion to us in Africa are abandoning theirs in the pursuit of science while laughing at us for holding on to myths and legends
I've seen people willing to die for their religion (in the sense of refusing to change their beliefs when threatened.) Very few willing to die for science. This is why you're not going to be able to build a civilization on science alone.
@@toromontana8290 yeah that's for certain! After all I have a lot more respect for Buddhism than the Abrahamic religions because it's killed and harmed a lot less people!
@@toromontana8290 That's a totally misguided and incorrect statement. How many scientists have tried proving their theories using themselves as guinea pigs? How many stood up to authority figures in the name of what they believe is the correct outcome or answer to something? There have been many of them. Go on, look up how many scientists risked deadly disease and behavior in order to prove a theory in the name of science. I'll wait. Dramatic statements and hurting others doesn't prove anything other than you're willing to destroy based on emotion and delusion. Standing up for your beliefs is better, however, standing up to death in the name of a belief also isn't the only way to prove loyalty to your own principles. Humans need to evolve past these sentiments already.
"My parents ruin everything! Wah!" This is a perfect example of the simplistic level of the bigoted mind which religious people have to tolerate until such people mature enough to come back to religion. Sigh. We have a lot of patience.
As always religion also tries to poorly explain fact when religious country is not prosperous. For example Poland in spite of being religious wad regularly destroyed throughout history. Explanation: "God has special plan for us to suffer for the world to be saved. And when God loves you very much then he lets you suffer like jesus". This kind of talk always pisses me off.
Łukasz Kamiński wow, Luka, it would make me pissed off, too. But that’s how religion is, no matter which you partake of, no matter how many prayers you pray to “god”. Keep your chin up!
27℅ Christian South Korea= God has blessed the nation, our god and values are true!! (Forgetting the contribution of native Confucian work ethic) 90% Christian Latin America, African countries and Phillipines = (Atleast Christians in your country can blame Communism, think about america coup countries where Communism was brutally suppressed)
@@hitesh8383 And like Islam, Catholicism, Baptists, Confucianism also promotes or contributes to conformity, hierarchy, obedience, opacity, cronyism, despotism, corruption, status quo, open debate, discussion; stifling dissent, change, innovation, progress.
The most compelling and significant statistic in all these conclusions is that religiosity and literacy are invariably inversely proportional. Which is the cause and which is the effect is not certain but the correlation is undeniable.
As someone whose country is in that most religious list (Philippines), I can testify to how of a shithole our country is despite the hardcore religiosity. As for what causes what, all I can speculate is that a lot of people here hang onto God bacuse it gives them hope. Investment scams and MLMs also run rampant here, not to mention a toxic hustle culture on our schools and curriculum, all of seems like religiosity is just another symptom of how the people here are hanging onto anything they think might help them prosper.
@@gav1233 haha, I agree. though "adopted" would be a really light term for the cultural erasure that Spanish colonization brought about in our country. I don't think there was much choice in the matter.... :D which is fucked up considering our country's way more hardcore Christian nowadays.
@@quackers969 My advise, it's okay to speak a Western language, eat Western food, and sometimes, Western media, but you shouldn't think Eurocentrically, especially when Western thinking came from peoples who had a lot of Neanderthal DNA, thus my ancestors being borderline species hybrids.
@@gav1233 listen kid, i understand your intentions, but it's too simple-minded to call my country's problem's just "Western thinking"... a lot of the people's beliefs here came from colonialist Spain, not whatever recent ideologies the West hold now. plus, saying "Western thinking bad" is just as unhelpful as saying "Asian thinking bad" or "African thinking bad", you need to judge beliefs individually under their own merits, not by the place they come from.
@@HolyKoolaid As well as internationally, you should compare and analyze the different states and regions of the US, ie, Deep South (Mississippi, Louisiana, Arkansas); New England (Vermont, NH, Mass); Appalachia (Kent, WV); Shallow South; Great Lakes; Prairie/Plains; Rockies; Pacific Northwest; California, NYC metro . . .
You know what it probably boils down to ? Secular countries are likely A) More adaptable to changing social, economic and political conditions. B) More accepting of diversity. C) Far more practical, flexible and considerate where human rights are concerned. D) Accepting of scientific input. E) More focused on facts, credible data and resulting solutions.
This topic has been on my mind for a while, that the most religious countries seem to be way worse off than the secular ones do. Such a interesting & great break down! Your videos are always so great 😁
No! Wrong! Godless countries are the ones that are in a terrible mess, like our country USA for example, USA was once a Godly nation and now is becoming a Godless country because of these left wing Democrats destroying our country by rioting, destroying businesses, controlling the media, human trafficking and not letting the media cover it, and indoctrinating our children in schools. That is why I'm glad our president Donald Trump is bringing God back into the country and exposing the left wing Democrats who want nothing but a Godless society like in Nazi Germany, Russia in Joseph Stalin era, and China in Mao Zedong's era leading to millions of deaths.
Well done. A good indication of a credible source is the transparency to cite their own sources, so it’s easy to check data, conclusions, etc. So, thanks for linking yours.
And Danish is so sweet and tasty! So your nation (Portugal, Ecuador, Tawain - or wherever you rascals reside) also tops the culinary arts! Is your nation filled with cream custard? Asking for a friend.
It's so good to grow up in the civilised world and although we still have a few religious numpties here in Ireland, they are less numerous and powerful than they used to be.
A great video. The fundamentalist Christians that raised me would hear your arguments, Thomas, and shake their heads. They’d say “they’re just more worldly, they won’t have boundless wonder for their souls. Their souls are lost” and so on and on and on. I don’t have to pay rent while living with them... but I don’t plan on staying here forever.
To a point I'll agree with you. But as a person who typically listens while cooking breakfast/dinner, doing homework, or ect I can honestly say that to a degree about ⅓ of these extra sound effects can be helpful.
@@ryavix Yeah, I did. I always understand that common mistake. Being corrected =/= being attacked. Is your reaction to being corrected or learning ALWAYS dismissive? No wonder you make mistakes then.
So im 24 and i was indoctrinated for 20years since birth raised in mexican pentecostal christian home... I was a part of the worship team for more than 8 years playing the bass guitar. When i turned 20 i started to not go as frequently which got me in trouble since i was a "worship leader"... They made me feel like it was a major responsibility to show up every sunday. I felt like i couldn't even pick a university too far from church because of the "responsibility". After meeting my wife, i was still a believer but i just never went to church. I went thought the stages of grief the next four years struggling with my faith. Now i can confidently say that God isn't real. I am an atheist now. 100% i feel like i got 20 years taken away from me. I resent it all.
You cut "Every Sperm is Sacred" right before the best line. That innocent, toothless face singing "Let the heathens spill theirs upon the dusty ground. God will make them pay for every sperm that can't be found." Makes me laugh till I cry nearly every time.
I recently opened up and left my faith due to the astute detective work of Dr. Hector Avalos and its programs like yours that help me rest assured in my fight for the truth that the facts are all out there for us. thank you!
Hey there Holy K I can only hope you take time out of your schedule and see this, but there is one question I desperately have to ask you. I got into all of this, trying to prove the bible and then frantically trying to prove it.. with a stunning lack of evidence... to my father. he is always going on about the book of Revelation and the Endtimes, and hardcore believes in the prophecies even though I have told him we cannot literally cannot prove anything in the New Testament is historical. is there anything you would reccomend I bring to his attention, to finally get him to see it's all just a giant storybook? get him to see that the book of Revalation is not to be taken and lived by as if it were true? I am trying to find the lynchpin to disprove it but no biblical scholars seem to outright deny or speak on at length, can you help me? thanks anyway so much even if you dont respond for everything that you do, thank you
@juanranger4214 because of the money grubbers who are taking advantage of christians today based on their so called "true understanding" of the book of Revelation. These people are misleading the Christians to peice together a "prophecy" that we have already passed in time, it did not come to pass... we are in a new era now but even the twin towers, the 911 attacks were not a part of this prophecy, it is a new era we are in now and its time for the good Christians, which I love, which I fight for, to realize that. Listen to the channeling of Kryon and Quo and Bashar and get back to me mane
In a secular part of Australia, I can confirm that having a good education lots of freedom and wealth is a terrible thing and I would much rather go to south Sudan with it's civil wars and poverty.
Damn, it's almost like... living in a prosperous country makes you less reliant on divinity and having better education makes you less susceptible to faith-based thinking.
New Zealander here, we have a majority athiest/agnostic population and also frequently rank in the top 5 in the world in measures of freedom, democracy, equality, quality of life, happiness, standard of living, health, average lifespans, wealth equality, and safety whilst frequently ranking amongst the lowest in the world when it comes to corruption, underage pregnancy, crime, poverty, unemployment, homelessness and gun deaths. We're also a first world developed nation with universal healthcare, an advanced welfare state, and a regional power in the South Pacific. We also have Covid under control for the most part, are currently living restriction free (apart from closed borders) and are one of the few nations on Earth that has predicted economic growth next year. It seems God has blessed us despite most of us not believing in him/her/it/them......or could it be that we elect our leaders based on their ability to do the job regardless of gender, creed, race or sexuality?
WE don't have to look at other countries, we can see the disparity here in America. The Bible Belt states lead the nation in teen pregnancies, the least educated, the most std's, the least healthy, the most welfare recipients and have the most toothless mf's, lol!! You only have to look at states like Massachusetts, New Hampshire, Maine, Colorado, Hawaii and other more secular states to see a 'world' of difference in aesthetics, happiness and prosperity.
The bible belt also makes up most of the top crime states. 8 of the top 10 most violent states, including general crime and murder, are republican owned. Most of these exist in the bible belt.
I suspect the problem might be that when tragedy is so much more prevalent all around you, it's far easier to feel divinely blessed when you manage to be one of the lucky ones.
Oh it’s so difficult living here in secular UK. All this equality and freedom of speech and knowing you are not going to be refused healthcare because of lack of money. It’s chaos
I am an atheist. I am not afraid to say it. For many years I have denied this. Over the past few months, I have come to terms with my true feelings. What you are saying is true. I live in the U.K., which is on the non religious side on the list. Make of that what you will.
OK, I just wanna say Wow on the homework done here. I have never heard of any of these metrics you speak of but now I know what they are I'm really going to use this information to the fullest. Again another worthy video with MAD skills to the data.
Great, well researched video! One possible nit and bit of errata: At 6:48 you show 30% more illiteracy of the top 20 religious countries vs the top 20 secular countries. But since 1% are illiterate in the secular countries, and 31% are illiterate in the religious countries, I believe you meant to say, not 30% more illiteracy, but 31 TIMES more illiteracy.
@@toromontana8290 Oh come now, we've never had much freedom and liberty, might I remind of how we had slaves til the 1860's and treated them like crap for a real long while? It was never the greatest but it's my home and I wouldn't live anywhere else.
Every time I loggin to youtube, theres a video that makes me go, "damn... yeah." so yeah... I guess I just need to subscribe. Thank you for helping me process my rage LOL
As an atheist, from what I have perceived, in ‘spirit’, a nation dies as it spirals under moralistic and political nihilism, often following cut ties upon its national/regional, cultural, historical, ancestral roots and identity... but in functionality, by capitalistic, materialist means, a nation can thrive, as people divert devotion away from ones ‘spirit’ or being and instead into possessions, power, hedonistic proclivities and all.
@Theo Skeptomai Thanks! If you’re interested in what I say, I believe you would enjoy exploring a lot of different ‘rightist’ philosophies and thinkers’ work. Such philosophies and work is a heavy influence of my weltanschauung, the lens in which I perceive this era of post-modernism. There’s a pretty funny video I found on this topic a while ago: ua-cam.com/video/Fav-SS0L78Q/v-deo.html
So I want to point out that this video isn’t really evidence that “being secular makes you better” (because that’s a correlation, not causation thing) but instead was being used to disprove that specific bible verse Thomas mentioned at the beginning about “blessed land”
secular nations do well, religious ones dont, what more evidence do you require? also keep in mind those secular nations, arent actually secular, what they really are are places where there is religious freedom to be or not be religious.
It shows that when people separate religion from their personal and social life and concentrate on solving personal and country problems and unite to solve them than searching answers from religion made GOD.
Title: *_"Is atheism the downfall of nations?"_* Answer: see the list of most religious countries (like Nigeria, ISIS, Haiti) and the least religious (most of European countries, including Scandinavian). See their ratings in terms of society, economics, health. Draw your own conclusions (just be honest about it).
@@MuttFitness Well, I don't seek wrath of Yahweh or Amateresu either so I don't even know. Ah, to hell with it. I'll just go submit to spaghetti monster. At least he's chill and won't smite me for whatever I do.
Statistics say... Nuh. The most secular countries are, on average, far more progressive and well-developed. The opposite is true of the most religious countries, by comparison.
This is great research, and I enjoy so many of your videos! They have helped me tremendously in reevaluating my relationship with Christianity and religion in general. That being said, I’d love to see you add more controls for your research as it stands (in this video that I’ve seen) it seems kinda spurious. For example, some of the most religious countries were formerly colonized or otherwise are exploited by countries (e.g Haiti vs. France) who no longer view themselves as religious. That of course doesn’t take away from the equally spurious statement that your research clearly disproves which is that religious countries are somehow better off as it also does not control for exploitation etc and for that I think this video was great. I think this makes for a great talking point for swatting away brain dead takes like that of the pastor, but I also think it would be even more impactful if it were taken even further. I say this because ultimately we know that all the Christian/evangelical will say is “well they weren’t practicing my Christianity, etc etc” but I assume this research is for the atheist or deconstructionist and for those types I think adding additional perspectives like developing vs developed country scores or colonialist vs post colonial country scores could help in driving the point home even more. Not to mention it broadens the commentary on the effects of utilizing religion within colonization. As always awesome video! And I can’t wait to see where else your research takes you
OK, I enjoyed your vid, and I'm going to watch more of them before I subscribe. But I will say that I'm impressed by the fact that you are using a genuinely top-notch profession microphone instead of one of those electret-in-a-plastic-box versions that are all over the 'net these days.
In Canada, any politician publicizing his religiosity is glances at askew, as though something is profoundly wrong with them, and rightly so. Recently, we had elections, and a bigoted asshole touting his religion-inspired idiocy ran for office... and was laughed out of the election when he had essentially no votes to speak of. Schools, in my time there, had _Religion_ classes, with the opt-out option being _Morale_ classes, which made me and undoubtedly others question what was wrong with the kids who had to go learn how to behave morally. The religion class was almost completely christian propaganda, with the minor exception of a once-a-year christian youth pastor being scheduled to come to the school to promote all kinds of idiotic woo, from spirit projection to meditation magic. His mistake of letting me know that there was more than one religion in the world is what clued me in that it was all nonsense, which I had figured out when younger but never really confirmed because everyone else seemed to be playing along with what I thought was some pointless game. Our charter of human rights opens up with "Canada recognizes the supremacy of God", which is rather surprising because when I emailed the relevant government office about that they told me "Yeah but it's just words nobody gives a shit" in less direct verbiage. Our churches are empty, except for the holidays, where people who mindlessly cling to tired, meaningless traditions follow an established routine with little actual care for the magical nonsense originating it all. Our hospitals are full of the sick and the poor, who have to pay nothing out of pocket, because our country doesn't beg an imaginary super-being to solve our problems for us. Canada is secular in practice if not in theory. Glance at the news coming from the USA, which has churches on every street corner, alongside (or I would not be surprised to find out _inside of)_ Starbuck coffee dispensaries. Who is better off? I guess it's the USA because GAWDUHDUH, obviously. I mean, just think: a media mogul here in Canada tried to open up a "news" station inspired in no small part by Fox "News", and Canada is _so_ backwards and uncivilized that nobody fell for the blatant propaganda and the station was shut down a few months later. Canada sure does suck.
The german "opt out" is called ethics class and it basically is 99% comparative religion anyway just going through philosophers and such means not theological texts... the only thing you can avoid is having the name of a religion on your grade card... As for the hospitals... VERY important point... the US has this twin phenomenon of the hospitals slowly being taken over by religions, especially orthodox catholicism, so if you get into there you'll be bombarded by religious messages and at the same time the politicians following the christian mandate to reduce coverage so GOD can take care of illness and poverty for the suffering... which it somehow never seems to get around to actually do. Weird.
@@Ugly_German_Truths it's not that hospitals are slowly being taken over by religion, it's that outside of the largest metropolitan areas, they were all BUILT by churches and are still run by them.
Yeah, we're still in the 'I have to pretend to be religious to get elected- stage though. I hope one day we elected a Prime Minister who is completely atheist and doesn't have to pretend he's not.
As a fellow Canadian, and non-religious, I’d have to disagree that with one point; there are still plenty of religions and religious people in Canada. “Churches are empty” is an exaggeration in my opinion. Ontario, the largest province by population, still has a publicly funded Catholic school system which is smaller (maybe one third) but runs parallel to the public system.
@@learningisfun2108 I never said nor suggested there were no idiots in Canada. I said politicians who wear religion on their sleeves were seen as freaks, and they are. Churches being empty is an exaggeration, yes. But they aren't anywhere near 100% occupancy. You might find one or two churches with a dozen people on a Sunday, usually elderly with nothing better to do. Montreal is called _La ville aux cent clochers,_ the city with a hundred bell-towers, but you don't see masses blocking the streets to attend brainwashing class. Except for the jehovahs, but they're particularly insane and pretty much obligated to go under penalty of ostracization. And yes, religious schools are a thing. But again, I never said there were no idiots in Canada. I said people didn't elect priests or pray for healing. The ones who do are seen as weirdos or criminals (when they kill their kids), and rightly so.
Shameless Papist I’ve driven by church billboards that verify my statement verbatim. Our “president” has claimed that these kind of things just go away on their own. There has been almost zero federal or conservative effort to control the virus. I can’t believe I’ve actually had to spell this out for you.
Shameless Papist None of your information is fully accurate. Why don’t you ask all the other countries that have dealt with covid and controlled it how our response went? Why is it that we’re the ones that are now banned from traveling to other countries? Cases and deaths are spiking in the US thanks to us never really shutting down completely, and red states over enthusiastic reopening schedules. 170,000 deaths is hardly far from lethal. By the way, federal flight restrictions never restricted Americans from traveling, only foreign passports from Asia. Xenophobia hard at work there, and it worked really well, considering it was too little too late, and half assed bigoted nonsense. People like you are the reason it’s so bad here in the US, and that innocents will continue to die. Someone you love will have to contract and die from this shit before you take it seriously. My guess is that you think climate change is a hoax, too. If you don’t listen to the overwhelming scientific consensus, there’s no way you’ll listen to me, so take your conspiracy trolling elsewhere.
Shameless Papist Not going to read your post. I like to get my info from qualified sources. That’s obviously not you. I’ll stick with medical professionals and scientists. I suggest you stop whatever you’re doing and do the same.
Shameless Papist You can’t even spell his name right, much less get his take on the situation correct. When has Fauci ever said that corona is basically just a cold?How is not getting your information from an idiot on the internet cowardly? Like I said, people like you are the reason the rest of the world is starting to consider us an ass backward zealotry driven shithole.
Hi from Sweden. Nice to see we top the list in many categories. As for the topic, as I see it, happy and safe people don't need to cling to religion, which is why you see this correlation. Religion is for desperate people.
I would support the observation that "Allah/Yahweh will bless/prosperous you greatly" assuming your backyard suddenly is determined to be a extremely productive oil field.
I've been really looking everywhere for videos debunking Hindusm couldn't find anywhere. Please make some content regarding that. But great videos otherwise
Debunking Hinduism? Hinduism debunks itself , no video required. The caste system itself is so obviously just the powerful trying to remain so.If you need a video specifically debunking Hinduism, then you have misunderstood literally every holy-kool aid video, and need to go back and re watch them all. 🙂
I think you're trolling, honestly, have you even tried searching "debunking Hinduism"? ua-cam.com/users/results?search_query=debunking+hindusim Yeah , I suspect you're lying now.
The data is so clear, so obvious, and can't be argued with. Why ISN'T this a bulletproof indicator to the religious people that secular nations are perfectly moral and usually far better off?
Atheism does not cause better education But better education leads to atheism You start being skeptical about how true something from the bible is when there is an overwhelming amounts of scientific evidence that proves otherwise Btw, no, i do not hate religious people, if they treat me like a human i will also treat them like a human (i am christian myself, but de facto, i just can't care less and also i have big doubts on religion)
Violence + Hate against Gays - please inform yourself via videos like 'GOP vs Queer' by 'Some More News' and please use the Entire Channel of Telltale Atheist, who uses his channel to document not just Weirdos like Greg Locke and Kat Kerr, but literally all of Radicalization happening right now in certain Groups. He’s such a valueable info-source, especially if you wanna always know who to vote against to not have flat-earthers or qanon or any of that in Office.
You forgot the most important part, what economic system these countries use. All of the rich countries has capitalism, all of the poor uses some form of socialism. Edit: Countries lose their religiosity when the living standards increases as there are less things to worry about or pray about to happen, this also happens the most in capitalist countries, because wages goes up and prices goes down and everyone is far better off.
Countries like Norway, Finland, Sweden, Denmark, Great Britain, UK, Luxembourg, France, Canada, the Netherlands, Denmark, Germany, Spain, Ireland, Belgium, Switzerland, Australia, Japan, and New Zealand have adopted and enacted socialist ideas and policies and have seen success in improving their societies by doing so.
@@956MrBrowntown But they all still have a capitalist economy with a strong welfare state. They dont have a socialist economic system in place at all. Sweden used to have one between the 70s-90s and i am from sweden mind you, i grew up in the 80s with 2 parents both well educated and after taxes they could barely afford to put food on the table. We didnt have hot water in school anywhere because that was too expensive, we had 2-3 blackouts a week when the electricity just shut off. All of this was also due to our at the time socialist economy. Since the 90s wages have trippled, taxes has been lowered and people are far better off.
@@hannajung7512 Actually that isnt true at all, all of europe work on a capitalist economic system, meanwhile many many countries in Africa have a socialist economic system, here we have an economist from Ghana talking about a bit about socialism in Africa: ua-cam.com/video/ZUBXW6SjuQA/v-deo.html One would imagine that he would be the first and foremost expert since its his home continent.
I'm interested to see a similar comparison, but one that incorporates population to identify the "most" religious and secular nations so that the 20 most populated religious nations are compared against the 20 most populated non-religious nations
This is part 1 of a three-part series. Check out part 2 here: ua-cam.com/video/JBhSjz_R10o/v-deo.html.
Really good video. I've heard a couple of times that atheism is responsible for the Kalergi Plan and am curious what you think.
Andy Thomas I just looked into it, why would they have reason to suspect a rise in atheism has caused that? It just seems like a fringe piece of literature from someone with nationalistic and anti-semitic sympathies.
@@chaseharrison5469 I've heard from a couple of places that it's a socialist ideal, something like what "godless atheists" would be about. I can't remember the quote or where I heard it. Just one of those, yeah whatever, moments that I thought about later. I have been called a communist for saying that I didn't believe as I know others have. I am not a communist.
Andy Thomas kinda reminds me of my Christian acquaintances from childhood saying Pokémon comes from the devil to corrupt the youth.
@@chaseharrison5469 I almost remember that, on Inside Edition, or something.
Maybe they chose the wrong religion and every day they are making Thor angrier and angrier
This makes sense. Take a look at the countries where Åsatru is the strongest: Norway, Sweden, Denmark, Iceland, Finland. All of them are doing quite well for themselves comparably.
@@gnaskar Odin is with them!
@@gnaskar - You convinced me. I'm a convert.
Honestly, I kind of want certain mythologies to exist, Nordic, Greek, etc.
😂😂😂
God's blessing/punishment is a really convenient scapegoat. Whenever bad things happen, it can be blamed on sinners/nonbelievers/heretics etc. Whenever good things happen, the religious can steal the credit by proxy.
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Talk about demanding rights without responsibilities - the very thing religious fundamentalists hypocritically accuse the left of.
Couldn't have put it any better!!
@Rakscha
Your friend sound like a fascist revealing himself to someone he takes for his soulmate. No offense.
Violence + Hate against Gays - please inform yourself via videos
like 'GOP vs Queer' by 'Some More News' and
please use the Entire Channel of Telltale Atheist, who uses his channel to document not just Weirdos like Greg Locke and Kat Kerr, but literally all of Radicalization happening right now in certain Groups. He’s such a valueable info-source, especially if you wanna always know who to vote against to not have flat-earthers or qanon or any of that in Office.
There seems to be a common misconception that you can't have a decent moral society unless it is based on christian values.
Apart from the Unites States, most western countries would disagree. Greetings from New Zealand. We are doing just fine thanks.
@k1w1 Yes Ray Comfort and Ken Ham CAME from the radical parts of New Zealands and Australia's christian segments... but they went to the US as their views were too extreme for even their supporting structures AND there is way more money in religion in the US... so i would not remotely compare that just based on "Comfort dropped out of a lady's lady parts over here"...
You seem e.g. to be doing SIGNIFICANTLY better with accepting sensible Corona isolation measures for good effect, while the US has this "who are they to tell us how to stay safe, that is god's job" crowd which takes great steps towards turning it into a nationwide tragedy. Sure not every antimasker in the US will be religious, but the venn diagram has a lot of overlap there. As countless video snippets can show, be it the lady driving around saying "why would i need a mask i have been bathed in the blood of christ" (ewww, yech!) or that poor old woman still working as SECURITY GUARD (WTF???) that whined about how masks meddle with gods beautiful breathing apparatus... yes that is annecdotal, but it shows two points where it was religion that drove them to mistrust basic health recommendations and it's not just two people out of millions refusing to listen to common sense and not follow any appeal to simplest human decency...
@k1w1 the US is in the neighborhood of 80%, but it's falling. The problem is that roughly 1/3 of that 80% are zealots who believe in forcing their version of their religion on everyone. If they can't convince with words, they will force it into the laws.
And no, in the US conservatism and religious extremism are almost 100% hand-in-hand. Not completely, but nearly every conservative I know is also a religious extremist. Preachers are at the pulpit screaming about how god will protect the faithful from Covid and only heathens wear masks.
I'm not sure what New Zealand is like but the US is pretty mixed. It's a superpower with about 60 percent of the country who are agnostic/atheist who believe in science and about 40% who are over the top religious nuts who think science is the devil's work, the earth is flat, evolution is a lie and that their God is bigger than your God so it's okay to invade and kill as many "savages" as they want.
cool. i plan to move to new zealand someday. from what ive researched, it seems a lot better than how i have it here in the southern US
do you have a spare room i can rent?
No. By EVERY metric, including overall quality of life, and in EVERY impartial study, the best nations are the least religious and the worst are the MOST religious. This is simple fact and is not open to denial or 'controversy' among logical, sane and educated people...anywhere.
Thats the thing. Anything and everything is open to denial.
How many religious people suceptible the the arguments debunked in this video do you think gets recomended to watch this by YT?
Thats why I make this comment, I get what you mean, just want push the video a bit. Might reach someone who realy could use seeing it.
@Rakscha sad that you are not an atheist anymore and you start having theist "logic". As the video shows, It,s trying to debunk the statement "a nation Who believes in god is blessed", and repeats that only one factor is not enough to determine it. Maybe you are happier because it comes with ignorance now that you,ve lost the ability to think for yourself
@SigmaTauri2 yeah that or they say they are a former evolutionist or darwinist
@Rakscha
Ah, yes. That good old "no true -Scotsman- christian" argument.
That depends on the religion. Christianity and Islam are not the same faith, same values or even follow the same god figure.
Better education=more reasoned thinking=less religion.
That why so many religions, especially here in the US bash on higher learning and even go to campuses to protest. That's why the toxic cheeto loves the uneducated.
Better education = Better Jobs = More money = Less starving (and being dependent on church donations for your food and clothing!) = more questioning of dogma = less religion :) (there: My version of that :D but essentially the same!)
No. The idea of God is a concept of reason to begin with, it alimented hundred of years of philosophy from Aristotetle to Avicenna to Kant to Descartes. And the same entity, God, is the central figure of all monotheist religions.
So stop thinking that believers are stupid because they don't think critically or something like that, you are mixing salt with sugar. If you want to critice stupid dogmas you have to argue, me as a muslim im fully reassured that my religion is in agreement with reason.
And i'll.give you a simple proof of God's existence, since you tried to pass religious people as poor thinkers.
The proof of God runs as follow. There is no doubt that there is existence. Every existent, by virtue of itself, is either possible or necessary. If necessary, then this is the existent being sought, namely God. If possible,then it will ultimately require the necessary existence in order to exist. In either case, God *must* exist.
(Avicenna, Shihadeh 2008;213)
Sadly, thats the way it is
Also the safer people feel, the less they turn to religion for comfort. Hence why US is more religious than EU. There is no/bad/inefficient social safety or medicare
I'm from the Philippines and it is DOOMED to poverty thanks to Jesus Fanaticism.
Oo nga trials lng daw ni god ang mga problema natin 😂
Bihira tlga ang pinoy
Yep, it's all about money..The education system is not really educating the people but the reverse. religious agendas for tithes 👌
We are in the Thrid Wolrd Country anyway... Most are easily manipulated by dogmas..
Im trans, promiscuous, and an atheist.
Anlaking hate na sinasalo ko. Sobra ahahaha.. Sex shame, homophobia and transphobia merged together, anddd yeahh the fact that im an atheist as well, especially dito sa pilipens, many are conservatives.
Short answer: no.
Long answer: nooooooooooooooo.
I can confirm: living in the secular hellhole of France, I'm really longing to emigrate to Uganda. These civil marriages and this prosperous and secure welfare state are really killing me :-D.
Yoh, 😂😂i dont mind the hellhole, can we switch
@@droupscoup Are you living in one of those christian paradises (is there a plural?) by any chance? Yes, please do redeem me of these horrible pagans :-D!
@@alexanderfo3886 😂😂okay sure... But to be totally honest, it seems like my country is lowkey also becoming more secular. Mainly the religious is the older people being of age ranging between 30 n well death 💀 but then our youth, there are many skeptics who are not afraid of asking questions.
Young people who dont just accept what the authority says(which can be both good and bad). But because of that, we can see the corruption of our country which seems many of our elders dont see and also causes many of the youth to be secular.
My favourite thing about being in South Africa, using data we seem to be the most secular country in africa. And happen to be the only two countries in Africa that allow gay marriages for example.
@@droupscoup I see, you're really not in the worst part of Africa, and I can only admire how South Africa has gone from a racially segregated military dictatorship in the 80s from one of the best places to be in Africa right now. That's quite an accomplishment, and I have to give you South Africans quite some kudos for that. There's still much to do for sure, but at least, you've got started.
Just keep asking those questions, you will come to some conclusions at some point for sure. And hopefully, some neighbouring countries will take a leaf out of your book and start asking questions at all those holy men. Good luck to you, and here's to a secular South Africa for everybody, whatever their color or orientation!
Poor you! Do you have to fear beeing burned on a stick now to appease no god?
I love the fact that Australia had 2 Atheist Prime Ministers during that time and it never suffered a reccesion.
As a data scientist, I just wanna say, I REALLY appreciate the level of detail you invested in this.
Bravo.
"faith": A piss poor substitute for thinking.
I have faith in a person until they disappoint me terribly. I have faith in Government until it screws me over. I have faith in preachers until I see the 30 bedroom mansions some of them own. But mostly my faith is spent on what matters most, faith in myself that I can be a good person... because I can back that one up.
@@AsmodeusDHare I have faith in fuck all until I get proved otherwise. Most people are totally undeserving of faith being the vain and fickle species that we are. Have faith in yourself and you won't go far wrong...hopefully
Faith is believing something when there is no evidence for it or in spite of evidence against it. Faith is not a virtue, not something to be respected, and 9/11 showed how dangerous it is.
@@WarmWeatherGuy 9/11 I'm confused, oh I get it now, I can be a bit dense sometimes. Personally I think all organised religious groups have much to answer for. They're all corrupt and rotten to the core and have had centuries of practice brainwashing their unfortunate practitioners.
@@AsmodeusDHare I tend to think of this as "trust." I trust people and organizations when they have demonstrated they are *to be trusted.* If I trusted them without such demonstrations, then that would be having faith in them.
The funny part is that those who brought religion to us in Africa are abandoning theirs in the pursuit of science while laughing at us for holding on to myths and legends
I've seen people willing to die for their religion (in the sense of refusing to change their beliefs when threatened.)
Very few willing to die for science.
This is why you're not going to be able to build a civilization on science alone.
@@toromontana8290Also when it comes to religion, many people are willing to kill for it and have without any remorse.
@@ghuttsmckenzie4269 Religions are not all created equal.
@@toromontana8290 yeah that's for certain! After all I have a lot more respect for Buddhism than the Abrahamic religions because it's killed and harmed a lot less people!
@@toromontana8290
That's a totally misguided and incorrect statement. How many scientists have tried proving their theories using themselves as guinea pigs? How many stood up to authority figures in the name of what they believe is the correct outcome or answer to something? There have been many of them. Go on, look up how many scientists risked deadly disease and behavior in order to prove a theory in the name of science. I'll wait.
Dramatic statements and hurting others doesn't prove anything other than you're willing to destroy based on emotion and delusion. Standing up for your beliefs is better, however, standing up to death in the name of a belief also isn't the only way to prove loyalty to your own principles. Humans need to evolve past these sentiments already.
In short: Religion ruins everything
I think greed ruins more
You mean churches? The Vatican? Priesthood?
"My parents ruin everything! Wah!"
This is a perfect example of the simplistic level of the bigoted mind which religious people have to tolerate until such people mature enough to come back to religion. Sigh. We have a lot of patience.
Lol! I am reading that book right now.
@@stevedoetsch Funny, I found my way out of faith because I matured.
As always religion also tries to poorly explain fact when religious country is not prosperous. For example Poland in spite of being religious wad regularly destroyed throughout history. Explanation: "God has special plan for us to suffer for the world to be saved. And when God loves you very much then he lets you suffer like jesus". This kind of talk always pisses me off.
The GAWD plan you've just described makes much more sense if we replace Jesus with Tzeentch.
Łukasz Kamiński wow, Luka, it would make me pissed off, too. But that’s how religion is, no matter which you partake of, no matter how many prayers you pray to “god”. Keep your chin up!
27℅ Christian South Korea= God has blessed the nation, our god and values are true!! (Forgetting the contribution of native Confucian work ethic)
90% Christian Latin America, African countries and Phillipines = (Atleast Christians in your country can blame Communism, think about america coup countries where Communism was brutally suppressed)
@@hitesh8383 And like Islam, Catholicism, Baptists, Confucianism also promotes or contributes to conformity, hierarchy, obedience, opacity, cronyism, despotism, corruption, status quo, open debate, discussion; stifling dissent, change, innovation, progress.
The most compelling and significant statistic in all these conclusions is that religiosity and literacy are invariably inversely proportional. Which is the cause and which is the effect is not certain but the correlation is undeniable.
As someone whose country is in that most religious list (Philippines), I can testify to how of a shithole our country is despite the hardcore religiosity.
As for what causes what, all I can speculate is that a lot of people here hang onto God bacuse it gives them hope. Investment scams and MLMs also run rampant here, not to mention a toxic hustle culture on our schools and curriculum, all of seems like religiosity is just another symptom of how the people here are hanging onto anything they think might help them prosper.
I bet your country wouldn't be like that had they not adopted Western philosophy or religion.
@@gav1233 haha, I agree. though "adopted" would be a really light term for the cultural erasure that Spanish colonization brought about in our country. I don't think there was much choice in the matter.... :D
which is fucked up considering our country's way more hardcore Christian nowadays.
@@quackers969 My advise, it's okay to speak a Western language, eat Western food, and sometimes, Western media, but you shouldn't think Eurocentrically, especially when Western thinking came from peoples who had a lot of Neanderthal DNA, thus my ancestors being borderline species hybrids.
@@gav1233 listen kid, i understand your intentions, but it's too simple-minded to call my country's problem's just "Western thinking"...
a lot of the people's beliefs here came from colonialist Spain, not whatever recent ideologies the West hold now.
plus, saying "Western thinking bad" is just as unhelpful as saying "Asian thinking bad" or "African thinking bad", you need to judge beliefs individually under their own merits, not by the place they come from.
Man, a ton of research went into this vid. No wonder it's been awhile since your last one. Great topic and well done!
Thanks glad it's apparent. I was worried people would think I've been lazy.
@@HolyKoolaid
I agree with 4uriuv Jones.
Well done.
@@HolyKoolaid As well as internationally, you should compare and analyze the different states and regions of the US, ie, Deep South (Mississippi, Louisiana, Arkansas); New England (Vermont, NH, Mass); Appalachia (Kent, WV); Shallow South; Great Lakes; Prairie/Plains; Rockies; Pacific Northwest; California, NYC metro . . .
You know what it probably boils down to ? Secular countries are likely
A) More adaptable to changing social, economic and political conditions.
B) More accepting of diversity.
C) Far more practical, flexible and considerate where human rights are concerned.
D) Accepting of scientific input.
E) More focused on facts, credible data and resulting solutions.
@@Smp_lifting That's a good point actually
This topic has been on my mind for a while, that the most religious countries seem to be way worse off than the secular ones do. Such a interesting & great break down! Your videos are always so great 😁
No! Wrong! Godless countries are the ones that are in a terrible mess, like our country USA for example, USA was once a Godly nation and now is becoming a Godless country because of these left wing Democrats destroying our country by rioting, destroying businesses, controlling the media, human trafficking and not letting the media cover it, and indoctrinating our children in schools. That is why I'm glad our president Donald Trump is bringing God back into the country and exposing the left wing Democrats who want nothing but a Godless society like in Nazi Germany, Russia in Joseph Stalin era, and China in Mao Zedong's era leading to millions of deaths.
Well done.
A good indication of a credible source is the transparency to cite their own sources, so it’s easy to check data, conclusions, etc. So, thanks for linking yours.
Let's just say that poverty, misery and religion keep each other company.
Reminds me of the catholic vows of chastity, obedience and poverty.
And those are voluntary!!!!
@@Plethorality you should visit the Vatican, they sit on billions
@@marcdecock7946 Thanks to tithes and indulgences.
Being Danish it makes me rather proud to be at or near the top in every single category :)
And Danish is so sweet and tasty! So your nation (Portugal, Ecuador, Tawain - or wherever you rascals reside) also tops the culinary arts! Is your nation filled with cream custard? Asking for a friend.
@@theoskeptomai2535 ja.. Yes it is.
Atheist country are the most successful ones
Its almost like enconomic growth, personal happiness and freedom increase as religion decreases
Empedocles I believe you’re right, Empe! It can’t just be a coincidence!
You got me when you introduced the gini index not gdp per capita as a measure of individual wealth. Well played sir you really do a lot of research
It's so good to grow up in the civilised world and although we still have a few religious numpties here in Ireland, they are less numerous and powerful than they used to be.
A great video. The fundamentalist Christians that raised me would hear your arguments, Thomas, and shake their heads. They’d say “they’re just more worldly, they won’t have boundless wonder for their souls. Their souls are lost” and so on and on and on. I don’t have to pay rent while living with them... but I don’t plan on staying here forever.
I'm thinking Thomas had a LOT of fun of playing around with sound effects while producing this video...
Honestly, it's too much
To a point I'll agree with you. But as a person who typically listens while cooking breakfast/dinner, doing homework, or ect I can honestly say that to a degree about ⅓ of these extra sound effects can be helpful.
@@ryavix
etc.*
It's short for et cetera, not ec tetera haha
@@Richard_Nickerson meh, you got the point
@@ryavix
Yeah, I did. I always understand that common mistake. Being corrected =/= being attacked.
Is your reaction to being corrected or learning ALWAYS dismissive? No wonder you make mistakes then.
I love how religious ads pop out 90% of the time on channels like yours ;D
I'M HERE AT MASJID AL AMAN. I keep getting that Muslim ad
So im 24 and i was indoctrinated for 20years since birth raised in mexican pentecostal christian home... I was a part of the worship team for more than 8 years playing the bass guitar. When i turned 20 i started to not go as frequently which got me in trouble since i was a "worship leader"... They made me feel like it was a major responsibility to show up every sunday. I felt like i couldn't even pick a university too far from church because of the "responsibility". After meeting my wife, i was still a believer but i just never went to church. I went thought the stages of grief the next four years struggling with my faith. Now i can confidently say that God isn't real. I am an atheist now. 100% i feel like i got 20 years taken away from me. I resent it all.
You cut "Every Sperm is Sacred" right before the best line. That innocent, toothless face singing "Let the heathens spill theirs upon the dusty ground. God will make them pay for every sperm that can't be found." Makes me laugh till I cry nearly every time.
I recently opened up and left my faith due to the astute detective work of Dr. Hector Avalos and its programs like yours that help me rest assured in my fight for the truth that the facts are all out there for us. thank you!
Glad I can help.
Hey there Holy K I can only hope you take time out of your schedule and see this, but there is one question I desperately have to ask you.
I got into all of this, trying to prove the bible and then frantically trying to prove it.. with a stunning lack of evidence... to my father. he is always going on about the book of Revelation and the Endtimes, and hardcore believes in the prophecies even though I have told him we cannot literally cannot prove anything in the New Testament is historical. is there anything you would reccomend I bring to his attention, to finally get him to see it's all just a giant storybook? get him to see that the book of Revalation is not to be taken and lived by as if it were true? I am trying to find the lynchpin to disprove it but no biblical scholars seem to outright deny or speak on at length, can you help me?
thanks anyway so much even if you dont respond for everything that you do, thank you
@@claytonbigsby6911 Why are you so eager to prove the word of God wrong?
@juanranger4214 because of the money grubbers who are taking advantage of christians today based on their so called "true understanding" of the book of Revelation. These people are misleading the Christians to peice together a "prophecy" that we have already passed in time, it did not come to pass... we are in a new era now but even the twin towers, the 911 attacks were not a part of this prophecy, it is a new era we are in now and its time for the good Christians, which I love, which I fight for, to realize that. Listen to the channeling of Kryon and Quo and Bashar and get back to me mane
In a secular part of Australia, I can confirm that having a good education lots of freedom and wealth is a terrible thing and I would much rather go to south Sudan with it's civil wars and poverty.
@Bronze Spectre they arnt caused by religon exactly, but they are probably religious.
@@iexist1300yes. Politics have hijacked their religions.
Damn, it's almost like... living in a prosperous country makes you less reliant on divinity and having better education makes you less susceptible to faith-based thinking.
New Zealander here, we have a majority athiest/agnostic population and also frequently rank in the top 5 in the world in measures of freedom, democracy, equality, quality of life, happiness, standard of living, health, average lifespans, wealth equality, and safety whilst frequently ranking amongst the lowest in the world when it comes to corruption, underage pregnancy, crime, poverty, unemployment, homelessness and gun deaths.
We're also a first world developed nation with universal healthcare, an advanced welfare state, and a regional power in the South Pacific.
We also have Covid under control for the most part, are currently living restriction free (apart from closed borders) and are one of the few nations on Earth that has predicted economic growth next year.
It seems God has blessed us despite most of us not believing in him/her/it/them......or could it be that we elect our leaders based on their ability to do the job regardless of gender, creed, race or sexuality?
wow I want to acknowledge and show appreciation for the work/effort this must have required. thanks.
As a black girl who grew up in the black church this clarifies a lot. I don't know a group of people more religious then black people.
WE don't have to look at other countries, we can see the disparity here in America. The Bible Belt states lead the nation in teen pregnancies, the least educated, the most std's, the least healthy, the most welfare recipients and have the most toothless mf's, lol!! You only have to look at states like Massachusetts, New Hampshire, Maine, Colorado, Hawaii and other more secular states to see a 'world' of difference in aesthetics, happiness and prosperity.
Isn't the Bible belt black dominated tho
The bible belt also makes up most of the top crime states. 8 of the top 10 most violent states, including general crime and murder, are republican owned. Most of these exist in the bible belt.
@@EternalEmperorofZakuul Yes, and they are very christian.
@@gleanerman2195 and black
Holy Koolaid, excellent video. I was in a comment argument over that very thing.👍💗✌😷🎃
I suspect the problem might be that when tragedy is so much more prevalent all around you, it's far easier to feel divinely blessed when you manage to be one of the lucky ones.
Oh it’s so difficult living here in secular UK. All this equality and freedom of speech and knowing you are not going to be refused healthcare because of lack of money. It’s chaos
Great video. It's so nice to see content that is well researched and transparent with the sources.
I am an atheist. I am not afraid to say it. For many years I have denied this. Over the past few months, I have come to terms with my true feelings. What you are saying is true. I live in the U.K., which is on the non religious side on the list. Make of that what you will.
This is a perfect video to enjoy my champagne to as an Atheist 😙🥂
Cheers, folks!
Living in a very conservative state, I can definitely see how accurate this data is!
OK, I just wanna say Wow on the homework done here. I have never heard of any of these metrics you speak of but now I know what they are I'm really going to use this information to the fullest. Again another worthy video with MAD skills to the data.
Great, well researched video!
One possible nit and bit of errata: At 6:48 you show 30% more illiteracy of the top 20 religious countries vs the top 20 secular countries. But since 1% are illiterate in the secular countries, and 31% are illiterate in the religious countries, I believe you meant to say, not 30% more illiteracy, but 31 TIMES more illiteracy.
6:44 so... people in very religious countries have a lower chance of actually reading what they think they believe.
This just became my favorite video of all time.
Wait... you're saying 'Merica ain't the greatest country?
Shhh. Shh. It's okay, burger bapy. 'Murica is great and Texas is the biggest.
After the last 3 years or so, you really have to ask that? ;)
@@toromontana8290 Oh come now, we've never had much freedom and liberty, might I remind of how we had slaves til the 1860's and treated them like crap for a real long while? It was never the greatest but it's my home and I wouldn't live anywhere else.
@@toromontana8290 exactly, there's always going to be something that infringes on the rights of others, not for evil but just for profit.
Every time I loggin to youtube, theres a video that makes me go, "damn... yeah." so yeah... I guess I just need to subscribe. Thank you for helping me process my rage LOL
"Data" is the plural form of "datum." It should read, "...data SAY..." It's akin to, "data ARE" (Correct) vs. "data IS."
Love the channel.
Thanks for all your hard work and research, it definitely pays off. You've been a huge help to me leaving all the Christian lies behind
As an atheist, from what I have perceived, in ‘spirit’, a nation dies as it spirals under moralistic and political nihilism, often following cut ties upon its national/regional, cultural, historical, ancestral roots and identity... but in functionality, by capitalistic, materialist means, a nation can thrive, as people divert devotion away from ones ‘spirit’ or being and instead into possessions, power, hedonistic proclivities and all.
The more often I read your comment the more I recognize the wisdom in it. Bravo! Please keep posting.
@Theo Skeptomai
Thanks! If you’re interested in what I say, I believe you would enjoy exploring a lot of different ‘rightist’ philosophies and thinkers’ work. Such philosophies and work is a heavy influence of my weltanschauung, the lens in which I perceive this era of post-modernism.
There’s a pretty funny video I found on this topic a while ago:
ua-cam.com/video/Fav-SS0L78Q/v-deo.html
So I want to point out that this video isn’t really evidence that “being secular makes you better” (because that’s a correlation, not causation thing) but instead was being used to disprove that specific bible verse Thomas mentioned at the beginning about “blessed land”
secular nations do well, religious ones dont, what more evidence do you require? also keep in mind those secular nations, arent actually secular, what they really are are places where there is religious freedom to be or not be religious.
You have such a lovely voice Thomas 😀😀😀 You are pleasant to listen to!
Man , a Hans Rosling style info-graphic if these data sets would be so sweet.
It shows that when people separate religion from their personal and social life and concentrate on solving personal and country problems and unite to solve them than searching answers from religion made GOD.
Huh, so Czech republic was not in the study? I was told we are one of the least religios countries.
In the several sources i have looked into Czech Republic is usually in top 5 of least religious countries in the world.
When was the last time we saw any nation living a holy, God-fearing existence? It's never happened. Ever.
Exactly!!
what about the Holy Roman Empire. Oh no wait, they were actually not that bad as to scream about hell constantly.
So grateful for your content!! (From a monastery near Seattle). 😊👍🏼💙
Awesome....
Not just the content & style, which is awesome but the msg at the end.
Really enjoyed this one, i'll be poping right over to part two.
Title: *_"Is atheism the downfall of nations?"_*
Answer: see the list of most religious countries (like Nigeria, ISIS, Haiti) and the least religious (most of European countries, including Scandinavian). See their ratings in terms of society, economics, health. Draw your own conclusions (just be honest about it).
Yeah but Scandinavians worship Thor, which makes the one true God happy.
@@MuttFitness
But what about Israel then? Is Yahweh real as well?
As for Japan, is Amateresu real?
@@ИльяИшикаев thor only. Do you seek his wrathful lightning?
@@MuttFitness
Well, I don't seek wrath of Yahweh or Amateresu either so I don't even know.
Ah, to hell with it. I'll just go submit to spaghetti monster. At least he's chill and won't smite me for whatever I do.
@@ИльяИшикаев how does he feel about people who strain their spaghetti sauce with a collander? Cause i don't do that.
Statistics say...
Nuh.
The most secular countries are, on average, far more progressive and well-developed.
The opposite is true of the most religious countries, by comparison.
Secular government doesn't mean secular culture. Secular culture doesn't mean atheist culture.
When people are miserable, they fantasise about better times. Misery generates religion,
Just look at Victorian gravestones, how many speak of lives of toil being over for the wonders of Heaven.
This is great research, and I enjoy so many of your videos! They have helped me tremendously in reevaluating my relationship with Christianity and religion in general.
That being said, I’d love to see you add more controls for your research as it stands (in this video that I’ve seen) it seems kinda spurious. For example, some of the most religious countries were formerly colonized or otherwise are exploited by countries (e.g Haiti vs. France) who no longer view themselves as religious.
That of course doesn’t take away from the equally spurious statement that your research clearly disproves which is that religious countries are somehow better off as it also does not control for exploitation etc and for that I think this video was great. I think this makes for a great talking point for swatting away brain dead takes like that of the pastor, but I also think it would be even more impactful if it were taken even further.
I say this because ultimately we know that all the Christian/evangelical will say is “well they weren’t practicing my Christianity, etc etc” but I assume this research is for the atheist or deconstructionist and for those types I think adding additional perspectives like developing vs developed country scores or colonialist vs post colonial country scores could help in driving the point home even more. Not to mention it broadens the commentary on the effects of utilizing religion within colonization.
As always awesome video! And I can’t wait to see where else your research takes you
OK, I enjoyed your vid, and I'm going to watch more of them before I subscribe.
But I will say that I'm impressed by the fact that you are using a genuinely top-notch profession microphone instead of one of those electret-in-a-plastic-box versions that are all over the 'net these days.
In Canada, any politician publicizing his religiosity is glances at askew, as though something is profoundly wrong with them, and rightly so.
Recently, we had elections, and a bigoted asshole touting his religion-inspired idiocy ran for office... and was laughed out of the election when he had essentially no votes to speak of.
Schools, in my time there, had _Religion_ classes, with the opt-out option being _Morale_ classes, which made me and undoubtedly others question what was wrong with the kids who had to go learn how to behave morally. The religion class was almost completely christian propaganda, with the minor exception of a once-a-year christian youth pastor being scheduled to come to the school to promote all kinds of idiotic woo, from spirit projection to meditation magic. His mistake of letting me know that there was more than one religion in the world is what clued me in that it was all nonsense, which I had figured out when younger but never really confirmed because everyone else seemed to be playing along with what I thought was some pointless game.
Our charter of human rights opens up with "Canada recognizes the supremacy of God", which is rather surprising because when I emailed the relevant government office about that they told me "Yeah but it's just words nobody gives a shit" in less direct verbiage.
Our churches are empty, except for the holidays, where people who mindlessly cling to tired, meaningless traditions follow an established routine with little actual care for the magical nonsense originating it all. Our hospitals are full of the sick and the poor, who have to pay nothing out of pocket, because our country doesn't beg an imaginary super-being to solve our problems for us.
Canada is secular in practice if not in theory. Glance at the news coming from the USA, which has churches on every street corner, alongside (or I would not be surprised to find out _inside of)_ Starbuck coffee dispensaries.
Who is better off?
I guess it's the USA because GAWDUHDUH, obviously. I mean, just think: a media mogul here in Canada tried to open up a "news" station inspired in no small part by Fox "News", and Canada is _so_ backwards and uncivilized that nobody fell for the blatant propaganda and the station was shut down a few months later. Canada sure does suck.
The german "opt out" is called ethics class and it basically is 99% comparative religion anyway just going through philosophers and such means not theological texts... the only thing you can avoid is having the name of a religion on your grade card...
As for the hospitals... VERY important point... the US has this twin phenomenon of the hospitals slowly being taken over by religions, especially orthodox catholicism, so if you get into there you'll be bombarded by religious messages and at the same time the politicians following the christian mandate to reduce coverage so GOD can take care of illness and poverty for the suffering... which it somehow never seems to get around to actually do. Weird.
@@Ugly_German_Truths it's not that hospitals are slowly being taken over by religion, it's that outside of the largest metropolitan areas, they were all BUILT by churches and are still run by them.
Yeah, we're still in the 'I have to pretend to be religious to get elected- stage though. I hope one day we elected a Prime Minister who is completely atheist and doesn't have to pretend he's not.
As a fellow Canadian, and non-religious, I’d have to disagree that with one point; there are still plenty of religions and religious people in Canada. “Churches are empty” is an exaggeration in my opinion. Ontario, the largest province by population, still has a publicly funded Catholic school system which is smaller (maybe one third) but runs parallel to the public system.
@@learningisfun2108 I never said nor suggested there were no idiots in Canada. I said politicians who wear religion on their sleeves were seen as freaks, and they are.
Churches being empty is an exaggeration, yes. But they aren't anywhere near 100% occupancy. You might find one or two churches with a dozen people on a Sunday, usually elderly with nothing better to do. Montreal is called _La ville aux cent clochers,_ the city with a hundred bell-towers, but you don't see masses blocking the streets to attend brainwashing class.
Except for the jehovahs, but they're particularly insane and pretty much obligated to go under penalty of ostracization.
And yes, religious schools are a thing. But again, I never said there were no idiots in Canada. I said people didn't elect priests or pray for healing. The ones who do are seen as weirdos or criminals (when they kill their kids), and rightly so.
I think what people don't understand about those verses, it's only talking about the Jewish nation. You know, the chosen.
There is, though, one thing in which more religious countries clearly overperform the less religious ones: number of religious people per capita.
Factually correct, indeed. :P
You make a great point!
Loving this. Really awesome. Btw. This new look suirs you just great.
Is that the same tank scene from the vid P. O. Zod put out just now? Inconceivable!
I would say that the most telling statistic is literacy. Education is the difference. The more you read the less likely you are to be indoctrinated.
Well, the US has been praying the Covid away, we can see how well that’s going.
Shameless Papist
I’ve driven by church billboards that verify my statement verbatim. Our “president” has claimed that these kind of things just go away on their own. There has been almost zero federal or conservative effort to control the virus. I can’t believe I’ve actually had to spell this out for you.
Shameless Papist
None of your information is fully accurate. Why don’t you ask all the other countries that have dealt with covid and controlled it how our response went? Why is it that we’re the ones that are now banned from traveling to other countries? Cases and deaths are spiking in the US thanks to us never really shutting down completely, and red states over enthusiastic reopening schedules.
170,000 deaths is hardly far from lethal.
By the way, federal flight restrictions never restricted Americans from traveling, only foreign passports from Asia. Xenophobia hard at work there, and it worked really well, considering it was too little too late, and half assed bigoted nonsense.
People like you are the reason it’s so bad here in the US, and that innocents will continue to die. Someone you love will have to contract and die from this shit before you take it seriously. My guess is that you think climate change is a hoax, too. If you don’t listen to the overwhelming scientific consensus, there’s no way you’ll listen to me, so take your conspiracy trolling elsewhere.
Shameless Papist
Not going to read your post. I like to get my info from qualified sources. That’s obviously not you. I’ll stick with medical professionals and scientists. I suggest you stop whatever you’re doing and do the same.
Shameless Papist
You can’t even spell his name right, much less get his take on the situation correct. When has Fauci ever said that corona is basically just a cold?How is not getting your information from an idiot on the internet cowardly? Like I said, people like you are the reason the rest of the world is starting to consider us an ass backward zealotry driven shithole.
Shameless Papist
Derpderpderpderpderp. You may as well stop.
Religion should have stayed in ancient times.
Some countries and people are still living in ancient times, if only in their religious-driven thinking.
Hi from Sweden. Nice to see we top the list in many categories.
As for the topic, as I see it, happy and safe people don't need to cling to religion, which is why you see this correlation. Religion is for desperate people.
Congratulations! You've got one more subscriber! Many more to follow.
No. Next Question.
I would support the observation that "Allah/Yahweh will bless/prosperous you greatly" assuming your backyard suddenly is determined to be a extremely productive oil field.
Triple post in one day?!
More like in one hour
He hasnt posted in forever, so he’s making up for it!
Yeah. I've been working on this series for over a month, so I haven't posted a video in a bit till now.
Liking the beard man. Keep that quality content coming
Well done! Thank you for your hard work digging up all that data.
note from history when Rome fell it was Christian
Woah he's in Austin? I just came back home from there this morning
Yeah, he's Eric from talk heathens roommate
How was it here?
@@HolyKoolaid other than being very hot and crazy traffic, I had a great time there
Loved the sound effects more than I should have lol
Love this video! Thank you for this work!
You do not have to follow any religion to have a functioning moral compass.
I've been really looking everywhere for videos debunking Hindusm couldn't find anywhere.
Please make some content regarding that.
But great videos otherwise
Debunking Hinduism? Hinduism debunks itself , no video required. The caste system itself is so obviously just the powerful trying to remain so.If you need a video specifically debunking Hinduism, then you have misunderstood literally every holy-kool aid video, and need to go back and re watch them all. 🙂
I think you're trolling, honestly, have you even tried searching "debunking Hinduism"? ua-cam.com/users/results?search_query=debunking+hindusim Yeah , I suspect you're lying now.
It's on my list, but I know so little about it.
Afghanistan is very faithful, greatest country to live!
Your discord server funneled me into an endless and endlessly frustrating loop. :-(
I don't think many skeptics are surprised, but it's good to see the numbers.
This is the only athiest approved koolaid on the market.
It's not koolaid if it's a good content.
@@ИльяИшикаев
So you missed the point all together. Hmmm ! You do know what site you are on ?
@@thomasridley8675
What's the point I missed and what site am I on?
@@ИльяИшикаев
Never mind ! The moment has passed.
Yeah but -- why use math and data when an anecdotal claim just feels right? (There are too many who subscribe to this)
Great comment. I'm stealing it and claiming it as my own. 😉
@@theoskeptomai2535 Thanks and feel free :) I just wish it weren't true.
Atheism and critical thinking with a heavy dose of skepticism will save us all. Believe me. I know lol.
“There’s a promise in the Bible...” To quote Mary Poppins, “A pie crust promise. Easily made. Easily broken.”
The data is so clear, so obvious, and can't be argued with. Why ISN'T this a bulletproof indicator to the religious people that secular nations are perfectly moral and usually far better off?
Simple because for religious folk personal feeling trumps everything.
Thank Lord God above I get to do atheism on easy mode living in England. The U.S sounds like the Dark Souls of non belief.
I'm fortunate enough to live somewhere were no one gives a f*ck about my religion.
@@an8strengthkobold360 same here, I'm so grateful that no one gives a toss about what I do or don't believe.
Atheism does not cause better education
But better education leads to atheism
You start being skeptical about how true something from the bible is when there is an overwhelming amounts of scientific evidence that proves otherwise
Btw, no, i do not hate religious people, if they treat me like a human i will also treat them like a human (i am christian myself, but de facto, i just can't care less and also i have big doubts on religion)
Violence + Hate against Gays - please inform yourself via videos like 'GOP vs Queer' by 'Some More News' and
please use the Entire Channel of Telltale Atheist, who uses his channel to document not just Weirdos like Greg Locke and Kat Kerr, but literally all of Radicalization happening right now in certain Groups. He’s such a valueable info-source, especially if you wanna always know who to vote against to not have flat-earthers or qanon or any of that in Office.
@@nenmaster5218 wot?
You forgot the most important part, what economic system these countries use. All of the rich countries has capitalism, all of the poor uses some form of socialism.
Edit: Countries lose their religiosity when the living standards increases as there are less things to worry about or pray about to happen, this also happens the most in capitalist countries, because wages goes up and prices goes down and everyone is far better off.
Countries like Norway, Finland, Sweden, Denmark, Great Britain, UK, Luxembourg, France, Canada, the Netherlands, Denmark, Germany, Spain, Ireland, Belgium, Switzerland, Australia, Japan, and New Zealand have adopted and enacted socialist ideas and policies and have seen success in improving their societies by doing so.
This is not true at all.
Almost all European countries are social democraties.
African countries rarely are socialist.
@@956MrBrowntown But they all still have a capitalist economy with a strong welfare state. They dont have a socialist economic system in place at all. Sweden used to have one between the 70s-90s and i am from sweden mind you, i grew up in the 80s with 2 parents both well educated and after taxes they could barely afford to put food on the table. We didnt have hot water in school anywhere because that was too expensive, we had 2-3 blackouts a week when the electricity just shut off. All of this was also due to our at the time socialist economy. Since the 90s wages have trippled, taxes has been lowered and people are far better off.
@@hannajung7512 Actually that isnt true at all, all of europe work on a capitalist economic system, meanwhile many many countries in Africa have a socialist economic system, here we have an economist from Ghana talking about a bit about socialism in Africa: ua-cam.com/video/ZUBXW6SjuQA/v-deo.html
One would imagine that he would be the first and foremost expert since its his home continent.
@luvnbeast Ohh i do understand that very well, all the capitalist countries have a mixed economy. They arent pure capitalist.
Damn! Amazing video, you've really stepped it up in the past couple years! Way to kill it :)
I'm interested to see a similar comparison, but one that incorporates population to identify the "most" religious and secular nations so that the 20 most populated religious nations are compared against the 20 most populated non-religious nations