I have dark Vox on JP and some notes I have from using him: 1.) He is high investment, you need to grind levels for his party-wide arts gen, and his 5* support is locked behind LB 7 which is a pain to get. 2.) His status up is really high, but since it's only on his Super Art it is much harder so spam than OG Vox, he can't pseudo-heal as well as OG Vox does 3.) His lore is sick AF, he made a pact with Auge and that's why he lost his Magia Drive (I might be wrong about this, I only used google translate) 4.) He is still self-sufficient, his arts and skill have good arts gen for himself I'm a little disappointed by his kit overall but he's really solid in a demon team. Him and dark rivi work together quite well
Hazuki is a must have, she just gives so much to team cause on TA she gives 30% DMG res as well as 130% Arts damage buff. Also her Super arts melts literally everything and anything, and since she isnt a crit dependant unit, she can melt those stages that lets say WGfen cant. Her arts is also a teamwide ramping damage stack, and her skill makes bosses take 20% more damage. She is a definite must have in my opinion. Her a wgfen are the two goats of SAWK
Shalltear isn't a must have, but im getting her, also Hazuki is extremely good, you just need someone to helps her arts gen, like Emperor would work the best.
This is dope and needed. Several thoughts ran through my brain though. Emperor is still going to be relevant. And I can only imagine the broken characters that are going to come after the fate series it’s going to be crazy
Holy shit this makes it so much easier then stressing out of not having enough for all of them, I can now just sit bad and save for Liza and Kirisame when they come out I have enough 5 stars that can still do amazing damage.
Ugh, Hazuki Slander. Senki allows accounts to basically ignore quest mechanics because of her insane damage potential + DMG RES. The difference between not having Senki & having Senki for most endgame quests is significant due to this.
Ugh, Dark Vox slander. Dark vox allows accounts to vox all over content because of how opee he is because of his insane crit and heals. Vox truly voxed the meta
Looking at this nearing the end of the Overlord cross over, I'm honestly stoked for Vox. Demon units being one of my favorites, he's a must have. Just imagine Ainz, Narberal, Dark Vox and then like... Thetis or whoever else. Demon comps are going to be loads of fun.
If anyone is using a burning character I highly recommend the volkans relic it's a garentee burn on enemy it's js it's burns all ur units but depending on the unit or the equipment u can get rid of that easily
also, units like draken and (less so) forte that enable nukes are strong to must have tier because those kinds of units are irreplaceable and even in sustains, they can be used to push the boundaries of what bosses you can beat with your damage dealers. these kinds of units will enable a kind of sustain team that is halfway to a nuke.
Unfortunately Hazuki was undervalued on this list, if you limit your account to only Fen, Liza, Hazuki, and Awoken units you can clear basically everything available at the moment.
@@jayredsoso the 4th Ninja Saga Girl. All in all, she gives up to 150% physical damage permanently, her true third eye only requires everyone to be on 90%+ HP, her True Arts increases all allies Arts Damage by 130% and Damage Resistance by 30%, during Third Eye she has a 100% Damage Buff and 5 Arts per Second, her True Third Eye additionally grants her 100% Accuracy and Attack and her Super Arts increases all allies Accuracy by 50% and reduces enemies Light Resistance by 100%. That's a fuck ton of shit on a single unit Also her True Weapon gives her 100 Arts on Third Eye entering cuz why not
OP i used Pheonixion, the 4* unit, and was able to achieve 22k heal for a moment. You can easily sustain 6k~8k heals if you bring Emperor in 3rd slot and use someone like Yoh, mitsuya or melty for arts gen and Atk buffs.
Keep in mind guys he doesn’t play jp and I’m not hating on that but he’s really going just based around the stats it’s different once you have and use the units themselves
Kokuri stack -20% mag res and 100% crit res debuff on NA -30% fire res debuff on TA (stacking with # of fire unit in the team) -200% team buff crit dmg -Passively give 20% mag res to the team when above 50% HP. How is she "just a DPS unit" considering she is all about buff and her SA's coef is bad for a SA unit?? Meanwhile Narberal don't offer as much (aside coef on SA) to the team and is strong tier. I wish also to advocate for Albedo, but just a bit: considering that a lot of boss of high end quest are now taunt killer, Albedo is a interesting choice in this meta. The problem with non-taunt tank is that they take a slot we need for another more crucial unit, like a DPS, a support or an even more niche unit but that is relevant for on specific boss. Albedo not only got a better passive dmg res than Sanstone, but can actually act like a good DPS. On top of that she have this "Oh sh**!" passive that give her 300 art and will heal the whole team for 50% HP, which will be usually enough for a last boss burst. All in all, her good point in my eyes are more about the anti taunt tank meta, rather than innate strong point, but she is still relevant non the less and can be downgrade later. Also: I suppose you recorded this before Miyu and Shirou went out, but your placement? Aside her DPS, I'm doubtful about Miyu's utility and Shirou is a strong non-taunt tank (mostly physical) and physical debuffer, which make me question the positioning of Albedo. Also, Shirou is the very first collab unit with a Magia-like mode (Shalltear can't recast her SA for a different effect, so I feel like she is different.)
My plan from now is going for Kirisame and then Go for Shalltear since I rolled for WGF as a new player. Hopefully I can also get Haruto for another arts generation.
I was going to save for the fate collab but after seeing the rest of the units idk anymore lol. Thxs for the vid OP hopefully your enjoying your trip and I wish everyone the best of luck!!
I'm going for Ainz or Narberal. Gonna save my other Crystals either for other yet to be revealed Fate characters or the ones in the Must Have Tier list. But dang, Star God Liza really sounds crazy. I have played Liza (normal version) for a few months and she had been integral for me clearing difficult content. Star God Liza is normal Liza, but on super steroids. 60 Equip CDR, a broken Insta Equip Reset mechanic and overall tons of utility. And Fen? I know many are hyped about him and ngl, he lives up to the hype. However in my current unit pool, I don't think he will have the highest priority for me.
correct me if im wrong, but u need normal crit to have super crit. If thats the case then there is a good chance that super crit scales with crit damage
I don't think its fair to have a general tier list that covers everything in gs because a good portion of quests now force you to focus more on your damage, so using wholly support units would not push you toward your goal. even having a damage dealer isn't enough for some quests, forcing you into using equips that lower damage resistance or increase the damage dealt to enemies. a really important example to consider is that one quest in story where you fight emperor, a quest that I who has been playing for more than 3 years can not 3 star by myself even if I do 1 star at a time.
I already play on JP, I have SD Berwick and fr they did him dirty with that kit. He does loads of DMG for sure but the fact that he needs too much before he start doing DMG... It's okay on a sustain battle, however, on a quick one he is pretty unusable, i mean u can use him but clearly not at his fullest
I'm newbie to Grand Summoners I managed to pull Valerie and her True Weapon and also pulled Awoken Liza should I decide on Liza or wait for a better unit such as Awoken Celeste
Liza is a must have, but she is not as important in the early game. If I were you, I'll take Liza You can aim for War God Fen and Kirisame afterwards (In my opinion, War God Fen and Kirisame will guarantee you end game)
@@shirogamiakatsuki2423 maybe after a good couple of months they'll be at "endgame" lol if they don't have good equips how are they gonna super awaken wg Fen and kirisame? Yes they're still good at just awoken but not good enough to straight up carry through "endgame" without good equips.
@@terminate_all But the thing is, you can always get the good equips by going using your Rainbow Gems. You can't say the same about the units themselves, once they're gone from the banner, you'll only be able to get them in Alchemy Summons (good luck with that) and Forever Summons (good luck with that) There are good amount of good equips in the side stories that people can farm in. Are those the most broken equips ever? No. But you can go pretty far in the game with those equips. And best of all, they don't need crystals. At the end of the day, will they be able to solo everything? No. Can they solo Summoner's Road? No But can they do around 80% of the content with an unawakened WGF and Kiri? Yes That's quite end game IMO
For anyone that has SG Liza or just knows if this works, does the auto system have the ability to, let's say use ex gate on herself and then ether recast the ex gate to someone else like for nuking for instance?
ppl were sad how he was as a unit cause they jusyt wanted nukers sadbeans i love character that take strategy to plkay and not just nuke. Also not all character even if super awoken should be 100k multiplier since not all are dmg dealer but buffer and supports and defenders.
So uh here we go, this is what I think: Overrated: Kiri (not as much of a must have apparently from what iv been hearing recently), albedo (she's terrible, her sa is impossible to keep up and her dmg is nothing. Emiya is infinitely better), dvox (who tf even uses mono demon because it's good? No one. They use it because they like those units. Dude has stat up on sa and the dmg boosting super crit on the low mod ta). Underrated: illya. (As good as ains, if not better, higher dmg and higher art gen by herself, but ains has certain stuff in the kit that makes him her equal.), Senki! Horribly underrated. Rin and Luvia: top dmg buffer. Kokuri, very underrated.
I feel like this tier lists is rushed, due to some of the placements of some of the units, like seneki is to low imo she should be in strong. And the ninja tank is to high he should be in low strong.
Not months, it's too late to save pity now since it's most likely gonna happen like a week or 2 after Fairy tail collab ends. You can summon and pray on summons if you just got 500 crystals right now.
@@Bexploserpro Fr? Considering how JP still went through the ninja saga first where kirisame (and senki?) comes out and then star god liza and then overlord finally, I wouldve assumed it would still be at least 2 months til global gets overlord
@@troyjordan3219 they won't wait until Star god liza comes before releasing Overlord, they did it on JP because they had to plan how would the first Sawk collab be. So be ready to get Overlord at any time.
valentines miranda poisoning people cause shes a bad cook in lore is such a cool idea
Really needed this video. Initially wanted to pull for Albedo instead of Ainz because I thought she was broken
I have dark Vox on JP and some notes I have from using him:
1.) He is high investment, you need to grind levels for his party-wide arts gen, and his 5* support is locked behind LB 7 which is a pain to get.
2.) His status up is really high, but since it's only on his Super Art it is much harder so spam than OG Vox, he can't pseudo-heal as well as OG Vox does
3.) His lore is sick AF, he made a pact with Auge and that's why he lost his Magia Drive (I might be wrong about this, I only used google translate)
4.) He is still self-sufficient, his arts and skill have good arts gen for himself
I'm a little disappointed by his kit overall but he's really solid in a demon team. Him and dark rivi work together quite well
May i know how is he still alive ,loving vox and his lore
Hazuki is a must have, she just gives so much to team cause on TA she gives 30% DMG res as well as 130% Arts damage buff. Also her Super arts melts literally everything and anything, and since she isnt a crit dependant unit, she can melt those stages that lets say WGfen cant. Her arts is also a teamwide ramping damage stack, and her skill makes bosses take 20% more damage. She is a definite must have in my opinion. Her a wgfen are the two goats of SAWK
i think hazuki and shalltear are a must have because if u combine them they can destroy whatever u put in front of them
Shalltear isn't a must have, but im getting her, also Hazuki is extremely good, you just need someone to helps her arts gen, like Emperor would work the best.
@@Bexploserpro emperor or MizukiXII
@@itzmeJek145 use all 3 instead if you can, but Emperor works way more then M12 mizuki with Senki. (Hazuki)
I get all of them if i can sounds like a sick team the whole overlord gang
Everyone should do garunteeds, but saving for sgliza is now what is upon us
This is dope and needed. Several thoughts ran through my brain though. Emperor is still going to be relevant. And I can only imagine the broken characters that are going to come after the fate series it’s going to be crazy
I just want demon king vox, hes been one of the only characters i have actually wanted to get since i started playing this game again
I hope you keep updating the list as we get newer characters. But keep up the good work OP! Now I know who to save for
Holy shit this makes it so much easier then stressing out of not having enough for all of them, I can now just sit bad and save for Liza and Kirisame when they come out I have enough 5 stars that can still do amazing damage.
@@EvilSuperSayianNick Kiri is cool but you can hold out for another Sawk you like more.
Hazuki is a must for me,valentine miranda with her is hella funny
Ugh, Hazuki Slander. Senki allows accounts to basically ignore quest mechanics because of her insane damage potential + DMG RES. The difference between not having Senki & having Senki for most endgame quests is significant due to this.
Ugh, Dark Vox slander. Dark vox allows accounts to vox all over content because of how opee he is because of his insane crit and heals. Vox truly voxed the meta
@@worstatgs281 True vox is so vox he voxed so much content fr
@worstatgs281 that's a vox for sure vox does vox thing vox of that he is him.
@@skacerev You ruined it.
@@sleeperboi8701hehehe
Looking at this nearing the end of the Overlord cross over, I'm honestly stoked for Vox. Demon units being one of my favorites, he's a must have. Just imagine Ainz, Narberal, Dark Vox and then like... Thetis or whoever else. Demon comps are going to be loads of fun.
If anyone is using a burning character I highly recommend the volkans relic it's a garentee burn on enemy it's js it's burns all ur units but depending on the unit or the equipment u can get rid of that easily
Hazuki (senki) deserved to be at least in strong if not more and Jay deserves to be in good, maybe between strong and good.
also, units like draken and (less so) forte that enable nukes are strong to must have tier because those kinds of units are irreplaceable and even in sustains, they can be used to push the boundaries of what bosses you can beat with your damage dealers. these kinds of units will enable a kind of sustain team that is halfway to a nuke.
I just realized I might be able to miss Hazuki... Hope my Luck kicks in with Fen, been a little bit in a Unit Drought, so maybe that helps lol
Unfortunately Hazuki was undervalued on this list, if you limit your account to only Fen, Liza, Hazuki, and Awoken units you can clear basically everything available at the moment.
Who's hazuki
@@jayredsoso the 4th Ninja Saga Girl. All in all, she gives up to 150% physical damage permanently, her true third eye only requires everyone to be on 90%+ HP, her True Arts increases all allies Arts Damage by 130% and Damage Resistance by 30%, during Third Eye she has a 100% Damage Buff and 5 Arts per Second, her True Third Eye additionally grants her 100% Accuracy and Attack and her Super Arts increases all allies Accuracy by 50% and reduces enemies Light Resistance by 100%. That's a fuck ton of shit on a single unit
Also her True Weapon gives her 100 Arts on Third Eye entering cuz why not
Already got fen hundo percent, hopefully I get sgliza ainz and possibly jay
SD berwick is just like me Fr 😢 that's why I need him 😭
I feel ya on that.
A regular video from ImOp??? I'M HERE FOR IT 😈
War god muhfuckin fen!!
Yessir the goat 🐐🐐🐐
OP i used Pheonixion, the 4* unit, and was able to achieve 22k heal for a moment. You can easily sustain 6k~8k heals if you bring Emperor in 3rd slot and use someone like Yoh, mitsuya or melty for arts gen and Atk buffs.
Keep in mind guys he doesn’t play jp and I’m not hating on that but he’s really going just based around the stats it’s different once you have and use the units themselves
Kokuri stack
-20% mag res and 100% crit res debuff on NA
-30% fire res debuff on TA (stacking with # of fire unit in the team)
-200% team buff crit dmg
-Passively give 20% mag res to the team when above 50% HP.
How is she "just a DPS unit" considering she is all about buff and her SA's coef is bad for a SA unit?? Meanwhile Narberal don't offer as much (aside coef on SA) to the team and is strong tier.
I wish also to advocate for Albedo, but just a bit: considering that a lot of boss of high end quest are now taunt killer, Albedo is a interesting choice in this meta. The problem with non-taunt tank is that they take a slot we need for another more crucial unit, like a DPS, a support or an even more niche unit but that is relevant for on specific boss. Albedo not only got a better passive dmg res than Sanstone, but can actually act like a good DPS. On top of that she have this "Oh sh**!" passive that give her 300 art and will heal the whole team for 50% HP, which will be usually enough for a last boss burst.
All in all, her good point in my eyes are more about the anti taunt tank meta, rather than innate strong point, but she is still relevant non the less and can be downgrade later.
Also: I suppose you recorded this before Miyu and Shirou went out, but your placement?
Aside her DPS, I'm doubtful about Miyu's utility and Shirou is a strong non-taunt tank (mostly physical) and physical debuffer, which make me question the positioning of Albedo.
Also, Shirou is the very first collab unit with a Magia-like mode (Shalltear can't recast her SA for a different effect, so I feel like she is different.)
My plan from now is going for Kirisame and then Go for Shalltear since I rolled for WGF as a new player. Hopefully I can also get Haruto for another arts generation.
A lot of Super Awoken units for a new player that's gonna be hard to farm for
@Ya Boi Kyohai Yeah, you're right, but if I manage to pull it off, my account will be good for a long time.
Who else is Hyped for these super awoken units? 🔥
Me
I cant wait for overlord and the fgo crossovers
I was going to save for the fate collab but after seeing the rest of the units idk anymore lol. Thxs for the vid OP hopefully your enjoying your trip and I wish everyone the best of luck!!
fate units are strong. shirou is op and kuroi is very good.
I swear to god, I thought Liza had all magic slots.
I somehow forgot that she had a support.
I'm going for Ainz or Narberal. Gonna save my other Crystals either for other yet to be revealed Fate characters or the ones in the Must Have Tier list. But dang, Star God Liza really sounds crazy. I have played Liza (normal version) for a few months and she had been integral for me clearing difficult content. Star God Liza is normal Liza, but on super steroids. 60 Equip CDR, a broken Insta Equip Reset mechanic and overall tons of utility.
And Fen? I know many are hyped about him and ngl, he lives up to the hype. However in my current unit pool, I don't think he will have the highest priority for me.
@@chrisd3588 no she aint
@@chrisd3588straight up lying to people 😂
You’re undervaluing Hazuki,Jay and Shalltear
Gotta love how it’s you should instead of the usual should you 😂
I wish Valarie and Charlotte were on the FS Banner.
Hey ok you not gon read this any time soon but will you be updating this when the other fate characters come ??
I have some of these units but i think you should do an updated version of this at some point
I'm saving for Ainz XD
Ainz-sama is really good fr
That vox feels kind biased
Need a updated list....alot has hapoen
I don't follow the meta, so just the guarantee on Ascended Fen and done, and still saving for Overlord and Fate (more than anything)
We need more like this!
should've used the other artwork for Albedo, easily Must have
correct me if im wrong, but u need normal crit to have super crit. If thats the case then there is a good chance that super crit scales with crit damage
What would you say about demiurge??
I said it once and I'll say it again.
FUCK gs for the all stars alch summons banner. I have no more alch. 😭
thanks so much for this video OP
The real question here is, How much units SA proceed from actual awoken units? or ill need to spend some money to get some??
I don't think its fair to have a general tier list that covers everything in gs because a good portion of quests now force you to focus more on your damage, so using wholly support units would not push you toward your goal. even having a damage dealer isn't enough for some quests, forcing you into using equips that lower damage resistance or increase the damage dealt to enemies. a really important example to consider is that one quest in story where you fight emperor, a quest that I who has been playing for more than 3 years can not 3 star by myself even if I do 1 star at a time.
When y’all think DK VOX coming out?
U gotta do an updated version of this vid.
Im newb, should I spend my 30 dias for fen or save for overlord?
yeo shiro is definetly a musty have!
Personally going for jay and sgliza, hazuki/senki. Those are my choices and regardless of the kit going for alter saber.
The true must-have is ginzo
I already play on JP, I have SD Berwick and fr they did him dirty with that kit. He does loads of DMG for sure but the fact that he needs too much before he start doing DMG... It's okay on a sustain battle, however, on a quick one he is pretty unusable, i mean u can use him but clearly not at his fullest
Gonna grab fen sgliza and jay
all im saying is that I need those translations for shirou, considering that i NEED a support unit
Why no emiya shirou i need to know if i should pity him😭😭
because they are not even out yet and noone tested them, but we already know they are not worth the pity
@@Adriandox Shirou Emiya actually has pity potential, probably Alternate Saber will be too.
I’m gonna have Ainz and Leone on the same team 😂
Based!
Hey op can you add the fate characters to this?
I hope I don’t get shafted on global like I did on JP because BOY!! I’ve summoned on each 6* unit banner since release and have yet to pull anyone.
i must be reading it wrong but albedo's damage resist 60% is for everyone o.O
If only i saw this before i spent 200 gems on wg fen
You should do tis again in this yearr (2024)
You forgot the male from the collab of fate the defensive forgot his name
New char
My bro came with all the power 😅
Very 👍🏼 video thx ❤❤
I'm newbie to Grand Summoners I managed to pull Valerie and her True Weapon and also pulled Awoken Liza should I decide on Liza or wait for a better unit such as Awoken Celeste
Liza is a must have, but she is not as important in the early game.
If I were you, I'll take Liza
You can aim for War God Fen and Kirisame afterwards (In my opinion, War God Fen and Kirisame will guarantee you end game)
@@shirogamiakatsuki2423 Thank you
@@shirogamiakatsuki2423 maybe after a good couple of months they'll be at "endgame" lol if they don't have good equips how are they gonna super awaken wg Fen and kirisame? Yes they're still good at just awoken but not good enough to straight up carry through "endgame" without good equips.
@@terminate_all But the thing is, you can always get the good equips by going using your Rainbow Gems.
You can't say the same about the units themselves, once they're gone from the banner, you'll only be able to get them in Alchemy Summons (good luck with that) and Forever Summons (good luck with that)
There are good amount of good equips in the side stories that people can farm in. Are those the most broken equips ever? No. But you can go pretty far in the game with those equips. And best of all, they don't need crystals.
At the end of the day, will they be able to solo everything? No. Can they solo Summoner's Road? No
But can they do around 80% of the content with an unawakened WGF and Kiri? Yes
That's quite end game IMO
Praying i get wgfen and I'll be happy
To me it doesn't really matter all I want is a luck of ever getting one 6 star character.
For anyone that has SG Liza or just knows if this works, does the auto system have the ability to, let's say use ex gate on herself and then ether recast the ex gate to someone else like for nuking for instance?
Recast not implemented in auto
ppl were sad how he was as a unit cause they jusyt wanted nukers sadbeans i love character that take strategy to plkay and not just nuke. Also not all character even if super awoken should be 100k multiplier since not all are dmg dealer but buffer and supports and defenders.
Very useful tips love idol
So uh here we go, this is what I think:
Overrated: Kiri (not as much of a must have apparently from what iv been hearing recently), albedo (she's terrible, her sa is impossible to keep up and her dmg is nothing. Emiya is infinitely better), dvox (who tf even uses mono demon because it's good? No one. They use it because they like those units. Dude has stat up on sa and the dmg boosting super crit on the low mod ta).
Underrated: illya. (As good as ains, if not better, higher dmg and higher art gen by herself, but ains has certain stuff in the kit that makes him her equal.), Senki! Horribly underrated. Rin and Luvia: top dmg buffer. Kokuri, very underrated.
Suggest everyone roll Hazuki. (For 5+ and summoners road)
Pretty agreeable tl as a jp player
Going for wargod fen then save
I will be happy if i get anyone, feel like the rates wont pull through for me 😅
senki should be way higher. she should be strong tier. shirou is senki 2.0 and is must have tier.
when will "Kirisame" be released?? I want him
Summon for emiya instead they do a similar job emiya just does it better
Oh look. New units I'll never get...
When is liza coming to gbl
Blaze Fryer Mira 😂
Day 6 of asking OP to make a "Characters from grand summoners I can beat in a real life fight tier list" video!
I am awoken
WHAT AINZ IS COMING???
Rip all my 2200 crystals. That's all I gotta say about that lmao.
Where's shirou
If only I had gems
When is the next crossover : ,(( thisnone has been going on for too long lol
SA Liza, SA Fen and SA Kirisame are all must haves.
You are important
I feel like this tier lists is rushed, due to some of the placements of some of the units, like seneki is to low imo she should be in strong. And the ninja tank is to high he should be in low strong.
Grand Summoners
Fen might be sus frfr
welll to bad for me lol i just summoned on characters i liked now she bottom of the list lol at least i got lucky pulling her
Rin is stronger the lllya 💀 every time someone uses her in the event lllya always dies first just like fen 💀
Aren’t you the one who literally said Demon King Vox was terrible 💀
jae in ok....
my boyyyy
Nooo.. i love jay
Can somebody tell me I overlord is close by so I can farm cyrstals for ainz
It's still quite a long way from overlord. It'll prob be months b4 global has the collab so yea.
@@troyjordan3219 thanks, I had 575 cystals, so I will be grinding story mode, I want that ainz
Not months, it's too late to save pity now since it's most likely gonna happen like a week or 2 after Fairy tail collab ends.
You can summon and pray on summons if you just got 500 crystals right now.
@@Bexploserpro Fr? Considering how JP still went through the ninja saga first where kirisame (and senki?) comes out and then star god liza and then overlord finally, I wouldve assumed it would still be at least 2 months til global gets overlord
@@troyjordan3219 they won't wait until Star god liza comes before releasing Overlord, they did it on JP because they had to plan how would the first Sawk collab be.
So be ready to get Overlord at any time.
All i really care about is swick
Can you make a Video who to take in super Forever summon pls