Great video, thanks! I think the electric hardtail definitely has a place as a fast and fun bike for gravel, forest roads and green and blue single track. It’ll do fine on stretches of tarmac and rowdy single track pending tyre choice but is really at home in the middle as an allrounder. The overall efficiency of the Urrun in particular - it being a hardtail, the somewhat dialed down motor and large battery in my mind makes it the ideal bike for going out and exploring all day. Caught you saying the frame is carbon fibre, I believe the Urrun is hydro formed alloy :)
Yes you are totally correct. It is 100% an aluminum frame. That is an error on my part, not for lack of knowing, just a jumbled hot mess in the ol’ noggin at times.
I love my Urrun, especially at 52. Great for exploring, good battery life, heaps of attachment points. The full suspension version, the Rise is $1500+ more expensive. I didn't buy the Urrun to do crazy down hills, I've a Orbea Occam for that, I didn't buy the Urrun for all day trail/road rides, I've a gravel bike for that although i am thinking about changing the tyres to something less aggressive and adding a range extender, thats how much i love this bike.
Looks to me like the full suspension bikes have a lower overall weight limit that I'm a little bit over, pushing me in the direction of a hardtail which isn't ideal having back problems.....maybe if I start with a hardtail and can shed a few kilos I'll be able to switch if it's proving to be an issue....Thanks for the review!
No offence, but this is a strange question in the first place. Why wouldn’t they be “worth it”? Is anyone even asking that question? Hardtail MTBs have been, and continue to be, extremely popular for decades now. They’re a different product for a different customer, and built for (slightly) different things. They’re also priced differently and better suited in different areas to each other.
Great question, and we totally agree. In part I was hoping to expand the perspective for some that may be stuck thinking that they 100% need full suspension, when really they may not. Equally for someone that may think they absolutely have to have a gravel bike, whereas a flat bar setup with a more upright posture might actually be the best decision for them.
Great video! I am wondering in your opinion, what are the top 3 best mountain bikes under 2k. For off-roading on single track trails, (Im in California) Thanks
i have been riding ' off road ' since 1958 and still ride a hardtail . in all those years of riding i never once felt i needed a full suspension . this is entirely due to having zero interest in kamakazi downhills . i just don't like going fast and i dont like technical trails with big rocks , roots , drops etc . so, why pay more for something i will never use .
how reasonable is it to ride this unpowered? Is it a total pig at 43 pounds if riding with no battery charge? Or, is it just a bit chunky for a bike? Admittedly, I should lose 40 pounds, so an extra 10 on the bike doesn't seem that much, and I read that the motor is frictionless so pedaling should feel pretty traditional/non-electric. Want to pull the trigger but a lot of money to regret later. Great review by the way!
It wouldn’t be terrible all things considered to pedal with it off. Many enduro and downhill bikes weigh in 35+ lbs. That being said comparing it to the equivalent non electric version it would have considerable weight difference. If your particular ride has you concerned on full battery usage they do have the range extender or you can get crafty with only having the bike on for climbing or long flat road riding and turning it off while descending.
So if I am going to ride mainly on pavement I am better of with an electric gravelbike. Which one should I buy? It has to have a big battery and centralmotor like this Orbea hardtail.
A gravel bike or consider tires that would be more favorable on the pavement. I had tried out the Schwalbe Johnny Watts on this bike and was very satisfied.
The simple answer is that it would work, the long answer is there are many bikes built for commuting specifically that would have features to make that experience optimal. If you’re dead set on this bike so to speak, change tires like we did and getting racks and fenders would have it outfitted pretty well.
I have one, and it would be great as a commuter bike that will also double up to allow you to do some adventure riding as well. The frame has all the location points welded into it from the factory to allow you to securely attach a carry rack proper mud guards etc. Plus feel free to ride up and down stairs, over gutters etc without damaging the bike. It's also reasonably light so on the flat I don't bother to use the motor. I charge mine about every 100 klm. Hope this helps.
Suspension seatpost example $60 XLC 27mm with coil adjusted to your weight only and you will have tooooootallllyyy different comfortable ride. Dropper post on hard tail is a scam😂
Depending on the type of riding you find yourself consistently exploring, both types of of seat posts have they’re benefits. Both are better then a rigid one though right ;)
Why is it a scam to have a dropper post on a hardtail? I ride steep tech red to black single track on both my full suspension MTB and my hardtail E-MTB. I need to get the seat away on the descends no matter which bike I ride that day.
Great video, thanks!
I think the electric hardtail definitely has a place as a fast and fun bike for gravel, forest roads and green and blue single track. It’ll do fine on stretches of tarmac and rowdy single track pending tyre choice but is really at home in the middle as an allrounder. The overall efficiency of the Urrun in particular - it being a hardtail, the somewhat dialed down motor and large battery in my mind makes it the ideal bike for going out and exploring all day.
Caught you saying the frame is carbon fibre, I believe the Urrun is hydro formed alloy :)
Yes you are totally correct. It is 100% an aluminum frame. That is an error on my part, not for lack of knowing, just a jumbled hot mess in the ol’ noggin at times.
I can relate@@ElectricBikeJournal
I love my Urrun, especially at 52. Great for exploring, good battery life, heaps of attachment points. The full suspension version, the Rise is $1500+ more expensive. I didn't buy the Urrun to do crazy down hills, I've a Orbea Occam for that, I didn't buy the Urrun for all day trail/road rides, I've a gravel bike for that although i am thinking about changing the tyres to something less aggressive and adding a range extender, thats how much i love this bike.
Just about to grab Orbea Urrun 30 Electric Bike 2024 with C2W scheme. Ticks all the boxes!
Looks to me like the full suspension bikes have a lower overall weight limit that I'm a little bit over, pushing me in the direction of a hardtail which isn't ideal having back problems.....maybe if I start with a hardtail and can shed a few kilos I'll be able to switch if it's proving to be an issue....Thanks for the review!
No offence, but this is a strange question in the first place. Why wouldn’t they be “worth it”? Is anyone even asking that question? Hardtail MTBs have been, and continue to be, extremely popular for decades now. They’re a different product for a different customer, and built for (slightly) different things. They’re also priced differently and better suited in different areas to each other.
Great question, and we totally agree.
In part I was hoping to expand the perspective for some that may be stuck thinking that they 100% need full suspension, when really they may not. Equally for someone that may think they absolutely have to have a gravel bike, whereas a flat bar setup with a more upright posture might actually be the best decision for them.
Great video! I am wondering in your opinion, what are the top 3 best mountain bikes under 2k. For off-roading on single track trails, (Im in California) Thanks
i have been riding ' off road ' since 1958 and still ride a hardtail . in all those years of riding i never once felt i needed a full suspension . this is entirely due to having zero interest in kamakazi downhills . i just don't like going fast and i dont like technical trails with big rocks , roots , drops etc .
so, why pay more for something i will never use .
Sound logic, as long as you still get time to ride.
how reasonable is it to ride this unpowered? Is it a total pig at 43 pounds if riding with no battery charge? Or, is it just a bit chunky for a bike? Admittedly, I should lose 40 pounds, so an extra 10 on the bike doesn't seem that much, and I read that the motor is frictionless so pedaling should feel pretty traditional/non-electric. Want to pull the trigger but a lot of money to regret later. Great review by the way!
It wouldn’t be terrible all things considered to pedal with it off. Many enduro and downhill bikes weigh in 35+ lbs.
That being said comparing it to the equivalent non electric version it would have considerable weight difference.
If your particular ride has you concerned on full battery usage they do have the range extender or you can get crafty with only having the bike on for climbing or long flat road riding and turning it off while descending.
So if I am going to ride mainly on pavement I am better of with an electric gravelbike. Which one should I buy? It has to have a big battery and centralmotor like this Orbea hardtail.
A gravel bike or consider tires that would be more favorable on the pavement. I had tried out the Schwalbe Johnny Watts on this bike and was very satisfied.
why arent there any hybrid ebikes?
how'd you say this would fare as a (mainly) commuter bike?
The simple answer is that it would work, the long answer is there are many bikes built for commuting specifically that would have features to make that experience optimal. If you’re dead set on this bike so to speak, change tires like we did and getting racks and fenders would have it outfitted pretty well.
I have one, and it would be great as a commuter bike that will also double up to allow you to do some adventure riding as well. The frame has all the location points welded into it from the factory to allow you to securely attach a carry rack proper mud guards etc. Plus feel free to ride up and down stairs, over gutters etc without damaging the bike. It's also reasonably light so on the flat I don't bother to use the motor. I charge mine about every 100 klm. Hope this helps.
Suspension seatpost example $60 XLC 27mm with coil adjusted to your weight only and you will have tooooootallllyyy different comfortable ride. Dropper post on hard tail is a scam😂
Depending on the type of riding you find yourself consistently exploring, both types of of seat posts have they’re benefits. Both are better then a rigid one though right ;)
Why is it a scam to have a dropper post on a hardtail? I ride steep tech red to black single track on both my full suspension MTB and my hardtail E-MTB. I need to get the seat away on the descends no matter which bike I ride that day.