I think the best way to bring it back is just to revert the change that killed it. Make the clones split to the right instead of behind. With all the spells going around, it's never going to be overpowered with a buff like this. It might, however, become somewhat valid. The big problem is that it has very poor parity with almost every card in the game. Even in decks like giant skelly clone it takes up a whole card slot which would better be used for a defensive card or a support card which is valid on defense. It makes your cycle awkward because you almost never play it.
Considering what type of spells are running around, giving Clone its original properties won't make it overpowered. Sure it would still be ass, but it's a nice quality of life and a nice treat to the small pocket of clone users.
Incorrect. I have been running a Giant Skeleton and Skeleton barrel clone deck for years now and the change that made clone go behind and not to the side actually is better for 1 good reason. Giant Skeleton Clone Pushing. (And skeleton barrel against cannoneer) Using the clone can push a Giant skeleton to the tower more often than you think. You can use it to push a GS that’s being blocked by a knight/valk/mini pekka/any minitank WITH THE CLONED GS! You can even do it against a in between the bridge and tower placed pekka if you have enough HP on him.
I THINK MAYBE IF CLONE AND MIRRON CAN COPY EVOLVED CARDS THEY CAN BE MORE USEFULL I LOVE TO USE EITHER OR BOTH BUT WHEN I USE THEM ON A EVOLVED CARD THEY JUST BRING THE NORMAL VERSION T.T OR MAYBE EVEN BOTH CAN BE EVOLVED (AT LEAST MIRROR) TO BE ABLE TO BRING ANY EVOLUTION OF A COPY CARD IF THAT CARD HAS ONE (YOU DIDNT NEED THE SHARDS) LIKE FOR EXAMPLE MIRROR AND CLONE ON THE EVO SLOTS + 6 CARDS ALREADY WITH EVOLUTIONS ON THE NORMAL ONES YOU CAN USE ANY CARD AND THE MIRROR TO A EVOLUTION OF ALL 6 AND WITH CLONE MAYBE EVEN GET ALL 6 AT THE SAME TIME IF YOU STACK ALL OF THEM FIRECRACKER, EVO FIRECRACKER AND THE WIZARD WITH EVOLVED CLONES SHOULD BE OP WITH A GOOD TANK IN FRONT AND THE WIZARD ALSO HAS A SHIELD
That is correct, clone from behind pushes the unit forward alot, this especially good with SH and Pekka especially with her range buff. They’re giant hurtbox helps push it further
@@sevraltxz it spawns full health troops based off of housing space the troops spawned by the spell are living off of a timer/their health bar after around 45 seconds (I think) the cloned troop disappears
i used to put clone in my deck, because it's op with giant skeleton, also I love using weird decks before the champion update in 2021, clone was my second epic card to get to level 13, and my first maxed out epic is actually mirror
They should make Clone have the option of spawning the troops on the side or behind and maybe make it 2 exilir. I doubt it will get a 3% usage rate tho
My idea for a buff is to turn the clone into a spirit like they did the heal spell. My reason being is that one of the reasons why the clone is so terrible is because it costs 3 elixir and since the units it spawns all die to one hit, that effectively makes it get countered by all other small spells in the game for an equal to positive elixir trade. By turning it into a spirit it would only cost 1 elixir while having the same potential use cases if used skillfully and would negate its main weakness to other small spells by simply not providing them with the same amount of value if used to counter it.
Buff the clone spell by making the clone always spawn by the side closest to the center and having slightly more distance between it and the original troop. Now it would also be an option to shift your troops away from any center field defense, letting them sometimes keep moving forward to the princess tower. Still not perfect but more useful than shifting troops slightly forward.
I say the clone spawning behind as a absolute buff cause of clone pushing, which made it Perfect & Giant skeletons best friend to push them closer to the crown tower to make it explode the tower when it dies buf asp in some cases redirect your own troops to go after something like the crown tower cause it got closer to the crown tower
As a professional Giant Skeleton Clone player, yes I play that in 2024, I see only a few ways Clone can be buffed without it being a complete nightmare to everyone: Option 1: Giving it the evolution buff - It could be a 3 cycle but cloned troops have 25-30% of the original = This is to reward players for risking to playing the spell a lot and to bring out more value out of troops (HP slightly higher than Fireball's damage) being killed by Spirits/some spells (Arrows will still kill most of these cloned troops) Option 2: Reverting the Clone back to its original state - As the title says but make the cloned troop go towards the middle of the map (or vise versa) instead of strictly to the right = This is to make the spell consistent so attacking one lane doesn't have a disadvantage over the other Option 3: Small invincibility period while cloning - This is to give the cloned cards a chance to do something before they die. To balance the invincibility, enemy troops will constantly will behave as if its the end of the match until the invincibility period is over, and thus the battle continues Obviously this is my opinion so nothing here is perfect (I did do some maths with the percentages). Also I just absolutely love the Clone spell because I love the Giant Skeleton and I wish for it to become slightly more useful in the future
The way clone could be buffed in my opinion is to decrease it's cost to 2,2 elixir cards prved to be very good and so decreasing cost of the clone spell could be a massive buff,yet still be balanced and viable
Imagine rage, but instead of giving the card an extra hit or so it fully just doubles the amount of damage done. That's what you've created. Not a very good idea if you want a card that's actually fun to play against.
Idk what about 1-10% hp instead 1hp maybe they could even be healed. This would add some skill and make it possible to not accidentally counter (because chances are you are going to use a spell on a big push) while still leaving them vulnerable.
No, that would be too much, an elixir cost to 2 would be better, plus it's not going to help cycle players cuz clone doesn't stall and there's already better cards at 2 elixir and even 1...
@@maxwellboop elixir cost 2 would be op, removing an elixir is bigger than you think. Think of when they added an elixir to recruits and they went from great to worst in the game
@@3days_left .... It's a clone 💀... There's literally nothing, you can't use it in a cycle deck because even if it's 2, what? You clone spirits or hog rider? That would be a waste, and then what? You clone an army for 1 elixir cheaper, then what? They all get killed by zap, log, arrows, snowball, earthquake, rage, almost all the splash units, like nothing will change except you have one extra elixir to have a chance to support your push with a zap or rage than clone and have nothing to support a push with, like just the opponent having bowler or executioner would make using a clone spell basically unusable, and even if you managed to rocket them, then what? Do they use a small spell to kill the cloned swarm you made? That's why it's safe to give it an elixir buff of -1 because all the interactions are still going to be the same
@@maxwellboop you are def midladder, only small spells would get a equal elixir change vs killing a cloned push (not even counting if it even hits all of the troops or stuff spawns when they die) you could also easily cycle it and would be huge for stuff like giant skele clone or lavahound clone. The fact you used skarmy as an example shows you haven't even played clone before. If you think clone is just more troops = win then your actually bad
@@3days_left 9000 trophies and in path of legends 9 until the 15k wild cards is mid ladder 💀 wow. Plus I'm using clone shield deck with GS, guards, skeleton barrel, dark prince, arrows, firecracker, clone, mega minion, so I know what I'm talking about, plus arrows are getting a lot of use now due to the Evo hp nerfs, plus using clone to pull of tricks can get you far but not far at all when your playing against a cheap spam cycle player that would spam cycle to get small spells constantly, also, you say they would get an equal elixir trade if the clone is 2, so? You still killed them and damaged the troops, like I have no clue what you are pulling information out from? But sure to say not from royal API, plus skarmy? Since when I said skarmy? So don't try to pull a sneaky one again cuz that's low to lie 💀, and last, lava hound and giant skeleton clone? Hmm, ever heard of idk, kiting? Or even defending? Plus there's something called SMALL SPELLS. Now the next thing I hear you say oh, nerf poison because OP
Okay, as a clone shield deck player... No, the clone is actually quite fun to use but for an 3 elixir cost? That's a bit too much, plus there are some clone tricks that are also the best, if there's a fisherman and it going to hook your giant skeleton rushing the tower, use a clone spell to get unhooked and get push closer to the tower, or if they spawn a troop Infront of your GS, clone and it would push it closer to the tower and the clone unit will push him, and for the shield units, they can't get zapped or log cuz they have shield hp.... Tho really, i feel like the clone spell just needs an elixir cost reduction to 2, cuz it's not going to work for cycle decks, the same counters for swarms will still do the same to them, basically would be useable at 2 elixir cost... The both ideas you gave would be an actual nerf that would literally kill the card, cuz if it clone to the side, would be killed instantly with today's meta play and won't break defense by pushing them to range units, and 1 to 10% hp? Too op.. a elixir cost reduction would be much better to 2, and not a lot people would use it still cuz still a 2 elixir spells would get rid of them but now at least it's at equal elixir trade and it's not very risky and just risky, plus cycle decks won't use it due to bette 2 and 1 elixir cards available already... Tho would love to see clone barrel goblin deck again, that was fun seeing
Imo, I recently heard CR being described as a rock paper scissors like matchup system. While I don’t think this is entirely true, the idea of removing cards might not actually be that absurd. Especially recently with evolutions, it really doesn’t depend on how good you are at the game, but how good your cards are, in levels, and in comparison to the matchup with your opponent. Not saying this would ever happen (because of Supercell) but it is an idea that might improve the current game.
As a clone + Giant Skelly user I can tell that it only works with Giant Skelly, and that is due to cloning of bomb. Its a very niche win condition, and works at 7k because most players dont have enough experience against this combo. I am still sad for the Giant Skelly bomb nerf btw
Best spell for fun at least.
💯😂
For me the most fun is mirror
Yes scarmy mirror clone funnest combo especially on 2v2
Ice ice baby
@@raniux8261only if you hate the concept of life. Yes.
Bro’s got that clash royale accent 💀
i am inside your house
@@endy_011 hi!
I swear all clash Royale UA-camrs have the same 3 accents no joke
In order to make it viable again, they just need to make clone evolution. Same stats as the original clone, but the troops keep the original health 💀
Its hilarious that in the current state of the game, the best solution to reviving dead cards is by giving them an evolution
me having to play against "Evolved" Clone Mega Knight decks: *Noooooowewewewewew. Ugh Noooooooo. Nononononononoooooooo*
Smartest clone user:
and the cloned troops will be evolved if the cloned card has evolution
Cloned lava hound balloon meta
I think the best way to bring it back is just to revert the change that killed it. Make the clones split to the right instead of behind. With all the spells going around, it's never going to be overpowered with a buff like this. It might, however, become somewhat valid. The big problem is that it has very poor parity with almost every card in the game. Even in decks like giant skelly clone it takes up a whole card slot which would better be used for a defensive card or a support card which is valid on defense. It makes your cycle awkward because you almost never play it.
Considering what type of spells are running around, giving Clone its original properties won't make it overpowered. Sure it would still be ass, but it's a nice quality of life and a nice treat to the small pocket of clone users.
Giant skeleton bush mechanic 🚮
Incorrect. I have been running a Giant Skeleton and Skeleton barrel clone deck for years now and the change that made clone go behind and not to the side actually is better for 1 good reason. Giant Skeleton Clone Pushing. (And skeleton barrel against cannoneer)
Using the clone can push a Giant skeleton to the tower more often than you think. You can use it to push a GS that’s being blocked by a knight/valk/mini pekka/any minitank WITH THE CLONED GS! You can even do it against a in between the bridge and tower placed pekka if you have enough HP on him.
I THINK MAYBE IF CLONE AND MIRRON CAN COPY EVOLVED CARDS THEY CAN BE MORE USEFULL
I LOVE TO USE EITHER OR BOTH BUT WHEN I USE THEM ON A EVOLVED CARD THEY JUST BRING THE NORMAL VERSION T.T
OR MAYBE EVEN BOTH CAN BE EVOLVED (AT LEAST MIRROR) TO BE ABLE TO BRING ANY EVOLUTION OF A COPY CARD IF THAT CARD HAS ONE (YOU DIDNT NEED THE SHARDS)
LIKE FOR EXAMPLE MIRROR AND CLONE ON THE EVO SLOTS + 6 CARDS ALREADY WITH EVOLUTIONS ON THE NORMAL ONES
YOU CAN USE ANY CARD AND THE MIRROR TO A EVOLUTION OF ALL 6 AND WITH CLONE MAYBE EVEN GET ALL 6 AT THE SAME TIME IF YOU STACK ALL OF THEM
FIRECRACKER, EVO FIRECRACKER AND THE WIZARD WITH EVOLVED CLONES SHOULD BE OP WITH A GOOD TANK IN FRONT
AND THE WIZARD ALSO HAS A SHIELD
That is correct, clone from behind pushes the unit forward alot, this especially good with SH and Pekka especially with her range buff. They’re giant hurtbox helps push it further
Maybe make cloned troops have x% of the original troop health, while lasting a limited amount of time in the arena
what if clones had 1hp and 1shield?
Arrow and Poison: Lol, nice try fam.
That would turn a skarmy into an army of guards
@@silverlion1269 Good, as guards lover I want army of guards
Well just poison cause DoT, arrows would only take out the Shield
@@michaelreece3937 Arrows have 3 waves
I think it'd be pretty interesting to instead of just 1 HP the clones have a percentage
Right? Other wise there’s no point in cloning pekka when you get better results in cloning mini pekka. Plus it will have a defensive use
I think like 25% might work. Can't have too much where cloned pekka survive fireball or it'll be op.
Clone spirit incoming
Bro i love your videos they really help me sleep and find information about a game I once loved, you really are amazing, keep up the good work!
The best thing for clone is that it slight push cards forward sometimes stopping them from being distracted from a small card
if it was like the clash of clans clone spell, it'd be much better
Never used coc clone spell, whats the difference?
@@sevraltxz it spawns full health troops based off of housing space
the troops spawned by the spell are living off of a timer/their health bar
after around 45 seconds (I think) the cloned troop disappears
@@that_bloxer8138 would be too op, cloning after you get your push set even if it was for like 10 seconds, would be a free tower
The reason it sucks is because once your opponent knows you have it, they can predict its use so easily
Mirror is nice for spell heavy decks because of the need for more troops sometimes
i used to put clone in my deck, because it's op with giant skeleton, also I love using weird decks
before the champion update in 2021, clone was my second epic card to get to level 13, and my first maxed out epic is actually mirror
It's like the wizard. okay for midladder, terrible on highladder.
clone starts with 100% of hp, loses 20% of its hp per second.
Cloned units should have a 1s invincibility upon use so the opponent randomly dropping a log doesn't kill your push
Should do zap damage on landing
Never made a deck that doesn't include Mirror and Clone ever since I unlocked them
They should make Clone have the option of spawning the troops on the side or behind and maybe make it 2 exilir. I doubt it will get a 3% usage rate tho
Wait until evolve clone spell begins to clone real troops
My idea for a buff is to turn the clone into a spirit like they did the heal spell. My reason being is that one of the reasons why the clone is so terrible is because it costs 3 elixir and since the units it spawns all die to one hit, that effectively makes it get countered by all other small spells in the game for an equal to positive elixir trade. By turning it into a spirit it would only cost 1 elixir while having the same potential use cases if used skillfully and would negate its main weakness to other small spells by simply not providing them with the same amount of value if used to counter it.
Clone in Clash of Clans : 😈😈💪💪
Clone in Clash Royale : 💩💩💩
Buff the clone spell by making the clone always spawn by the side closest to the center and having slightly more distance between it and the original troop.
Now it would also be an option to shift your troops away from any center field defense, letting them sometimes keep moving forward to the princess tower. Still not perfect but more useful than shifting troops slightly forward.
still waiting for clone spirit
ive gotten a few good wins with it, if the minion horde+mirror+inferno connect and you drop a clone its gg
Making it 2 elixir might be good, then slightly nerfing the push it does to the original units?
As a giant skelly clone user that would make it op, the push only really helps if you’re trying to push to tower but 2 elixir is way to cheap
I say the clone spawning behind as a absolute buff cause of clone pushing, which made it Perfect & Giant skeletons best friend to push them closer to the crown tower to make it explode the tower when it dies buf asp in some cases redirect your own troops to go after something like the crown tower cause it got closer to the crown tower
I think they should allow clones to no clip through other units
Honestly, clone should have been HP-based for at least blocking 1 hit for larger clones (lava hound, golem,giants)
As a professional Giant Skeleton Clone player, yes I play that in 2024, I see only a few ways Clone can be buffed without it being a complete nightmare to everyone:
Option 1: Giving it the evolution buff
- It could be a 3 cycle but cloned troops have 25-30% of the original
= This is to reward players for risking to playing the spell a lot and to bring out more value out of troops (HP slightly higher than Fireball's damage) being killed by Spirits/some spells (Arrows will still kill most of these cloned troops)
Option 2: Reverting the Clone back to its original state
- As the title says but make the cloned troop go towards the middle of the map (or vise versa) instead of strictly to the right
= This is to make the spell consistent so attacking one lane doesn't have a disadvantage over the other
Option 3: Small invincibility period while cloning
- This is to give the cloned cards a chance to do something before they die. To balance the invincibility, enemy troops will constantly will behave as if its the end of the match until the invincibility period is over, and thus the battle continues
Obviously this is my opinion so nothing here is perfect (I did do some maths with the percentages). Also I just absolutely love the Clone spell because I love the Giant Skeleton and I wish for it to become slightly more useful in the future
give it the rage spell treatment
Did bro pulled the 15% statistics straight outta his a55
Freeze is nowhere near clone and mirror, freeze is actually a good card in graveyard and ballon decks, and has been a staple for years
guys, try this,
dart goblin behind a skull barell, then clone it, thank me later (u can replace the goblin with a witch)
Remove the clone spell and add close spirit
E golem+mirror+clone+rage=instant win
My most used spell
Clone spirit
Clone giant skeleton
Bruh he didnt mention Giant Skeleton, or goblin barrel king tower? Disappointing. Those options are better then lava hound clone imo.
He did mention Giant Skelly but sadly not Gob Barrel 🥲
Clone is the only card that I don't have a single mastery of
The way clone could be buffed in my opinion is to decrease it's cost to 2,2 elixir cards prved to be very good and so decreasing cost of the clone spell could be a massive buff,yet still be balanced and viable
Imagine rage, but instead of giving the card an extra hit or so it fully just doubles the amount of damage done. That's what you've created. Not a very good idea if you want a card that's actually fun to play against.
We need clone evo
Clone 2 elixer ez fix
Clone spirit time?
If they increased the clone health would improve usage rate…..
The clone spell isn't hard to use, just get good hahaha
Honestly make an clone evolution where it clones the cards but if any of the cards there had an evolution the clone of them would get evolved.
So you're wasting a evolution to just buff your other evolution
@@doomgirl5341 every card in the clone range gets evolved even if its not good could work out in beatdown or lava clone
Clone should clone troops with 10% of the troops' original HP.
Idk what about 1-10% hp instead 1hp maybe they could even be healed.
This would add some skill and make it possible to not accidentally counter (because chances are you are going to use a spell on a big push) while still leaving them vulnerable.
No, that would be too much, an elixir cost to 2 would be better, plus it's not going to help cycle players cuz clone doesn't stall and there's already better cards at 2 elixir and even 1...
@@maxwellboop elixir cost 2 would be op, removing an elixir is bigger than you think. Think of when they added an elixir to recruits and they went from great to worst in the game
@@3days_left .... It's a clone 💀... There's literally nothing, you can't use it in a cycle deck because even if it's 2, what? You clone spirits or hog rider? That would be a waste, and then what? You clone an army for 1 elixir cheaper, then what? They all get killed by zap, log, arrows, snowball, earthquake, rage, almost all the splash units, like nothing will change except you have one extra elixir to have a chance to support your push with a zap or rage than clone and have nothing to support a push with, like just the opponent having bowler or executioner would make using a clone spell basically unusable, and even if you managed to rocket them, then what? Do they use a small spell to kill the cloned swarm you made? That's why it's safe to give it an elixir buff of -1 because all the interactions are still going to be the same
@@maxwellboop you are def midladder, only small spells would get a equal elixir change vs killing a cloned push (not even counting if it even hits all of the troops or stuff spawns when they die) you could also easily cycle it and would be huge for stuff like giant skele clone or lavahound clone. The fact you used skarmy as an example shows you haven't even played clone before. If you think clone is just more troops = win then your actually bad
@@3days_left 9000 trophies and in path of legends 9 until the 15k wild cards is mid ladder 💀 wow.
Plus I'm using clone shield deck with GS, guards, skeleton barrel, dark prince, arrows, firecracker, clone, mega minion, so I know what I'm talking about, plus arrows are getting a lot of use now due to the Evo hp nerfs, plus using clone to pull of tricks can get you far but not far at all when your playing against a cheap spam cycle player that would spam cycle to get small spells constantly, also, you say they would get an equal elixir trade if the clone is 2, so? You still killed them and damaged the troops, like I have no clue what you are pulling information out from? But sure to say not from royal API, plus skarmy? Since when I said skarmy? So don't try to pull a sneaky one again cuz that's low to lie 💀, and last, lava hound and giant skeleton clone? Hmm, ever heard of idk, kiting? Or even defending? Plus there's something called SMALL SPELLS.
Now the next thing I hear you say oh, nerf poison because OP
Okay, as a clone shield deck player... No, the clone is actually quite fun to use but for an 3 elixir cost? That's a bit too much, plus there are some clone tricks that are also the best, if there's a fisherman and it going to hook your giant skeleton rushing the tower, use a clone spell to get unhooked and get push closer to the tower, or if they spawn a troop Infront of your GS, clone and it would push it closer to the tower and the clone unit will push him, and for the shield units, they can't get zapped or log cuz they have shield hp.... Tho really, i feel like the clone spell just needs an elixir cost reduction to 2, cuz it's not going to work for cycle decks, the same counters for swarms will still do the same to them, basically would be useable at 2 elixir cost... The both ideas you gave would be an actual nerf that would literally kill the card, cuz if it clone to the side, would be killed instantly with today's meta play and won't break defense by pushing them to range units, and 1 to 10% hp? Too op.. a elixir cost reduction would be much better to 2, and not a lot people would use it still cuz still a 2 elixir spells would get rid of them but now at least it's at equal elixir trade and it's not very risky and just risky, plus cycle decks won't use it due to bette 2 and 1 elixir cards available already... Tho would love to see clone barrel goblin deck again, that was fun seeing
Just make it two elixir
Imo, I recently heard CR being described as a rock paper scissors like matchup system. While I don’t think this is entirely true, the idea of removing cards might not actually be that absurd. Especially recently with evolutions, it really doesn’t depend on how good you are at the game, but how good your cards are, in levels, and in comparison to the matchup with your opponent. Not saying this would ever happen (because of Supercell) but it is an idea that might improve the current game.
Sure Buddy.
I play lava hound clone and golem clone and theses decks aren’t bad
Just make it +1 level
It's a staple of silly 2v2 decks so removing it would be uncool
Log be like: 🪵
cool
Replace it with clone spirit
Clone Spirit would be even more useless.
@@geometryemperor yes, buuuuuuuu... 5 spirits. ever think about that?
Sounds like skill issue to me
Sounds like a troll issue to me
Or you can make the clone like in COC but instead if housing space it would be elixir cost
BUT ITS SO FUN
Its mostly because the clone ver only has 1 hp,so even arrows can take them out easily like golem
As a clone + Giant Skelly user I can tell that it only works with Giant Skelly, and that is due to cloning of bomb.
Its a very niche win condition, and works at 7k because most players dont have enough experience against this combo.
I am still sad for the Giant Skelly bomb nerf btw
This video would good but your voice sounds boring