@@terakoinfinity9523No thats tough guy armor where a character can just stop flinching on weak hits as long as they're on the ground. Only Kaz and Bowser have it.
@@xanander4693 It always is no matter how many “platform fighter” hobbyists claim otherwise. I play with items off mostly but that doesn’t distract me from the reality.
@@jasonlobo2350 you’re seriously comparing hero, the mid tier, who’s NEVER won a major, to Kazuya “EWGF” Mishima, the character who can kill you *consistently* off of winning one interaction? You either glaze Kazuya, or have a vendetta because you died to thwack at 30% one time.
Imagine complaining about Kazuya “cheese” when the other guy is playing hero. 😂 Smash community can’t think about anything outside of hating on riddles for being good with Kazuya LOL.
We all know Kazuya is bs, but come on. Hero has a skip-the-ledge option, a whole host of buffs that include a heal, a stun, and two low percent kills options all behind one special. You’ve got little room to be upset
He literally air dodged into an Electric. How does that give you enough invincibility frames to dodge all those tickes of magic burst lmfaooo?!?! DLC's are wild bro 💀💀💀
Why are these people in the comments complaining about hero? He’s not even that good competitively if your opponent knows how to read and if you have bad rng you straight up lose
That’s true, I guess it’s just that hero has so many high damage projectiles, and can do so much dmg for no reason. He feels to me like cheese incarnate
Hero is not a throw pick otherwise beastmodepaul wouldn't have made it this far in tournament genius. Don't forget salem was also at the top of the game playing as hero and there akakisu now too. Hero isn't as good as steve but he's a bullshit ass character that basically plays the game for you, way more so than kazuya.
You could see Paul get more n more tilted each kazuya game. All that armour, invulnerability and damage just melted his mental and Riddles was more than happy to roll with it.
That game 3 ending was painful. Tough guy invalidating magic burst was crazy. Paul should’ve caught his landing with snooze. Kazuya doesn’t give a fuck about magic burst.
Bowser has the same interaction with magic burst, but better, because he can literally walk through it, while I think kazuya has to use a side special to get the armor.
Hero is also DLC and has broken stuff. They both do. It's not stolen or robbed. Complaining about a magic burst that covers almost half the stage not hitting someone because someone else has something busted as well is so hypocritical.
@@guccigamer5907 I actually prefer beastmodepaul to win but I'm not going to pretend his character isn't also just a bunch of different ways to cheese people.
@@Muppet567 Magic burst hits the entire body, and riddles was in the magic burst for more than ten frames. I’ve seen this exact situation a few times before
@@letsmakeit110 no way you’re calling the guy that has beaten sonix (with terry) a few times carried also like he took a game against 2019 leo with ken cmon man
@@axellent8762bruh did you watch the game? Kazuya is like one of the most common characters on top level. Riddles are like forefront. But you also got players like Wildz, Skeleton, Miru, Raki, Tea. Even Alice has Kazuya secondary and he beat Hurt with Kazuya!!! I don't think Kazuya is the most broken but to say nobody else plays him at the top level is just wrong!!!
@@kmo6485 Did I ever said that Kazuya better than Steve? Please read my comment properly and understand what I mean before you make a fool out of yourself!!!
Paul screaming ROBBED after game 3 was so raw bro
Don’t see how he was robbed, it was last stock maybe if he did a reverse 3 stock or something
@@bradleygo1 Did you not see where Kaz hit him out of Magic Burst? The commentators were mind fucked... lol
@@bradleygo1???
"No John's" Paul!
Nah goofy ahh character got out goofied love to see it
There's no robbery against Hero, only justified self-defense.
Amen to that.
It's actually Hero the one who can rob you at any given time. Literally it's a gamble.
gamblers feeling robbed, say it isnt' so
9:29 the most dlc moment of dlc time
Literally Bowser could have done the same thing there
@@PeriodicallyProlific please record a video of bowser super armoring through magic burst mid stage thanks (you can't do it)
@@Snarf692both have fucking tough guy, in fact bowsers is stronger you dumbass
@@Snarf692literally the first video when I typed in magic burst bowser ua-cam.com/video/TTerbsztyyE/v-deo.htmlsi=UOtIwWP9fk8BSUX5
@@Snarf692 Literally the first video when I typed in magic burst bowser ua-cam.com/video/TTerbsztyyE/v-deo.htmlsi=UOtIwWP9fk8BSUX5
When the bullshitter out bullshits the bullshit 💀😭
dlc jank against one another is fun as hell to watch...😅
That magic burst grab though.. and ignoring stage 2 side b. Man.
She paul on my mode till I beast
🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
Hero main complaining about dlc 😭🤣
I mean to be fair Kazuya is way more dumb
Real human being complaining about hero in 2024
I feel like you can’t be complaining about Kazuya cheese if you literally play hero.
Paul funny asf man
hes mad because he didnt finish him off not that he missed magic burst , he still had a chance after
@@lui1115 I was referencing how bmp immediately went to twitter to complain after his set with riddles
Riddles played out of his mind. If it wasn’t for crucial parries, he was cooked for sure
riddles facial expression is gold
9:28 !!! Kazuya needs that. I promise.
Bowser can do it too... Any character with a super armour move can do it
@@terakoinfinity9523No thats tough guy armor where a character can just stop flinching on weak hits as long as they're on the ground. Only Kaz and Bowser have it.
This party game ahh set
ahh set
This is a party game
@@xanander4693 It always is no matter how many “platform fighter” hobbyists claim otherwise. I play with items off mostly but that doesn’t distract me from the reality.
ahh!!!!
Imagine complaining about riddles punishing “cheese” with a character that has magic only for cheesing 😭🤣🤦🏽
Whack and Thwack alone existing 🗿
ok but one is a mid character with inconsistent cheese while the other is a top tier with more consistent bullshit
@eco1828
Nah hero isn't mid amd ya know it
@@eco1828 yeah, Hero!
@@eco1828true, idk why these idiots think hero is high tier just because one person is good with him
A hero being salty when they rng the fck out of a fight is funny af
fr
Both these chars cheesy af lol
But he was fighting a kazuya so it was valid
@@guccigamer5907 nah. It was not valid. You cant complain when youre gameplay is almost the same
@@jasonlobo2350 you’re seriously comparing hero, the mid tier, who’s NEVER won a major, to Kazuya “EWGF” Mishima, the character who can kill you *consistently* off of winning one interaction?
You either glaze Kazuya, or have a vendetta because you died to thwack at 30% one time.
Imagine complaining about Kazuya “cheese” when the other guy is playing hero. 😂 Smash community can’t think about anything outside of hating on riddles for being good with Kazuya LOL.
Bro it would feel shit for everyone to lose to random weak hit armor
Dlc pack 2 is pay 2 win be honest steve Kazuya aegis minmin
@@hunterherndon8573 dawg paul plays hero that ain’t any better
You could also say that the other way around and it’d still make sense
@@Song_of_Pines hero ain't even top 30
We all know Kazuya is bs, but come on. Hero has a skip-the-ledge option, a whole host of buffs that include a heal, a stun, and two low percent kills options all behind one special. You’ve got little room to be upset
id rather trade all those silly spells for electric wind god fist
I agree with rubberwoody: ewgf > hero’s entire spell list
@@rubberwoody cause its braindead , for skilless ppl
@@guccigamer5907 braindead
Ewgf is better than anything hero has dont even try to compare the two
beast on my paul til i mode
Funny to see how his Kazuya was buffed from game 1 to 2
honestly its on paul for not knowing this. Kazuya has been in the game for like 3 years already
Good tourney BMP , the win is coming
Game 3 “I’d cry if I look like that too bruh that’s fucked up what they be doin to yall”
He literally air dodged into an Electric. How does that give you enough invincibility frames to dodge all those tickes of magic burst lmfaooo?!?! DLC's are wild bro 💀💀💀
Why are these people in the comments complaining about hero? He’s not even that good competitively if your opponent knows how to read and if you have bad rng you straight up lose
That’s true, I guess it’s just that hero has so many high damage projectiles, and can do so much dmg for no reason. He feels to me like cheese incarnate
Riddles fans
Hero is not a throw pick otherwise beastmodepaul wouldn't have made it this far in tournament genius. Don't forget salem was also at the top of the game playing as hero and there akakisu now too. Hero isn't as good as steve but he's a bullshit ass character that basically plays the game for you, way more so than kazuya.
@@sebaschan-uwu Salem played snake for most of ults lifetime and didn't even do good with hero
@@sebaschan-uwu yeah he’s def not terrible but he’s not good either.
Riddles got a good parry at the end of game 3 and capitalized on it with rage drive. Not much you can say or do about that.
11:30 Paul’s reaction is how I feel getting cooked in Winners Rd 1 at my local 😭💀
You could see Paul get more n more tilted each kazuya game. All that armour, invulnerability and damage just melted his mental and Riddles was more than happy to roll with it.
I love riddles Kazuya idc idc 😂
That game 3 ending was painful. Tough guy invalidating magic burst was crazy. Paul should’ve caught his landing with snooze.
Kazuya doesn’t give a fuck about magic burst.
Bowser has the same interaction with magic burst, but better, because he can literally walk through it, while I think kazuya has to use a side special to get the armor.
I think the whole community can agree fighting kasuya is a terrible experience and we are so glad we have dlc characters
10:17 Paul still thinking about game 3
Nintendo REALLY wanted to make sure dlc 2 sold well
9:28 does kazuya not have any landing lag or is he able to buffer ewgf out of an airdodge and have it activate frame 1 upon landing?
He has tough guy and magic burst gives very little knock back at the start so he armored through it, kinda like bowser
He used tough guy with that magic burst interaction btw (not silly dlc)
As cheap as kazuya is, Riddles was on point with his parrys this set
His dodge timing too was insane. Airdodges and spotdodges got him so much mileage, Paul was able to punish a few but not enough.
An Hero can not be smart about a Kazuya 😅 Both are cracked so just accepting the defeat Paul
Hero is cracked? He has so much input lag on like all of his moves, any good player going against Hero is going to parry his slashes over and over
CrybabyModePaul
Its BitchMode Paul .... not crybabyMode Paul
why was she dissing riddles so hard man i was rooting for him in the crowd :c
Bitchmode Paul is suppose to win even though i came here to root and cheer for Riddles
.... Hero was so Resourcesful and spend everything he got
9:42 robbed fucking robbed
bro people have known about this interaction since hero released and the hero’s were playing against bowser
Hero is also DLC and has broken stuff. They both do. It's not stolen or robbed. Complaining about a magic burst that covers almost half the stage not hitting someone because someone else has something busted as well is so hypocritical.
@@gabrielturman7830 magic burst is not that good my guy
@@gabrielturman7830be sure to dust off your knees when you’re done
@@guccigamer5907 I actually prefer beastmodepaul to win but I'm not going to pretend his character isn't also just a bunch of different ways to cheese people.
BeardModePaul went off this tourney.
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まじでずっとガン逃げしてピオリム引きにいったほうが良さそうw
The robbed boy got robbed hahaha 😂😂😂
Paul was a very salty boy 😂
so?
Just DLC things
2:55 Invincibility?
Yep, invulnerable on frames 1-8 plus intangibility on upper body and arm on frames 1-3
@@anzack2551 Wow don’t want to be that person but that’s kinda dumb
@@Sparky582 It wasn’t invincibility, it was armor. Kazuya has armor similar to bowser that lets him armor through weak hits like some jabs.
@@Song_of_Pinesthat was invincibility
@@Muppet567 Magic burst hits the entire body, and riddles was in the magic burst for more than ten frames. I’ve seen this exact situation a few times before
Beyond the Summit - Smash, cool video dude
Hear me out... not the same kind of cheese. One is fun on a mid character and one is complete bullshit.
Paul was indeed robbed!
Hero on the map. Kazuya still broken as hell. They're both dlc but kazuya far better than hero. Paul da goat
You can't complain about bs while playing hero, lol, magic burst is one of the most broken attacks in the game
BMP 💯 Robbed
9:28 カズヤ○すぎる笑
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Bunch of kazuya glazers fr fr
My king got robbed 😔
Better player wins
@@kmo6485 better character won that interaction
God I HATE kazuya
throw projectiles into bounce it doesnt matter carried af cancer meta.
Cry more
i rather a thousand times watch that match instead of sonic vs aegis
Better than watching sonic or Steve
@@jotogoat true. which is why i said cancer meta not cancer character
@@letsmakeit110 no way you’re calling the guy that has beaten sonix (with terry) a few times carried
also like he took a game against 2019 leo with ken cmon man
Cheap kazuya did it again
As a Hero main, Kazuya is one of Hero’s worst match ups
Wtf is this?! DLC bs at its finest.
Kazuya is so broken, pay to win character.
Hence why nobody else does it with kazuya at the top level
Nobody?:@@axellent8762
@@axellent8762bruh did you watch the game? Kazuya is like one of the most common characters on top level. Riddles are like forefront. But you also got players like Wildz, Skeleton, Miru, Raki, Tea. Even Alice has Kazuya secondary and he beat Hurt with Kazuya!!!
I don't think Kazuya is the most broken but to say nobody else plays him at the top level is just wrong!!!
@@riqua27steve is much worse you dont have a point buddy
@@kmo6485 Did I ever said that Kazuya better than Steve? Please read my comment properly and understand what I mean before you make a fool out of yourself!!!