I wonder if any of the old manufacturers following cage codes, still in business, would have any NOS and was allowed to sell parts? Very nice upgrades. My old ban era Bushy A2 has a nice stock, buttplate and door. Thanks for making Apex parts unavailable. Lol
Ha! Ha! Apex comment! Lol! There's a guy on Ebay selling USGI A2 butt plates with the FSCM (CAGE) 76963 and NSN 1005-01-146-7685 still in the original Milspec packaging. Just the butt plates without the doors in boxes of 100 at $129.00 per box. Says he has 8 boxes last time I checked. Looks to be the real deal? I don't need 100 A2 butt plates but I think the issue may be that finding that many A2 metal trap doors to go with them is no longer possible? Apex has a note at the bottom of their description for the NOS A2 metal doors that once they're sold out that there will be no more! I'm thinking that Fulton Armory can find the A2 butt plates but this is the reason they have been installing A1 metal doors which have not become unobtainium for whatever reason? Still lots of all plastic stuff available on the market!
A1 build would be great! I did one but opted for 1/9 twist as to correct 1/12 No forward assist but teeth on bcg Couldnt find one in chrome/"in the white" finish bcg
Peter: When are you going to make a "Delta" clone like mine! Cherokee cheek piece...3-9x40 Banner 2 scope with original "ARMS" mount. I had to file the sear block anvil down a little under the lower to get full auto bolt carrier in it. I converted my Colt Match Sporter HBAR into a "Delta" clone. I put a QD sling mount under the lower portion of the handguard...as under the FSB is a no-go as it puts pressure on the barrel affecting accuracy.
Ha! Ha! almost bought one back in the day! I still have an old rubberized 3-9X40 Tasco from when I was going to set up my old Sporter like a Delta back in the 90's. I imagine just the original Delta medallion grip alone would really set you back today $$$ if you could ever find one! I wonder what an original mint Delta goes for these days? Most youngsters don't even know what they are!
@@peteregger7928 My brother has one....about $2500-3000. He DOES NOT want to sell it....fired it in a few military matches and it was very accurate....no more so than my clone!
@@peteregger7928 I forgot to mention that because of that stupid sear block I had to get a great trigger. The only one that has the large pin Colt trigger was Geissele. I dropped it in and it fit perfect under the sear block. It was a Geissele SSA-E two stage trigger. Second stage is around 2 lbs. That made a world of difference in accurate shooting. Thank you Geissele!
@@bobbygray496 I think he's the only one left making a large pin MilSpec type that will work with the sear block. Velocity may be one of the last modular's with large pins but wont work with the sear block. When I removed the sear block on my Match Target I had called twice and talking with two different representatives was told that the sear block would have to come out. The description for the Geissele at the time did not say one way or the other. The two representatives were wrong and did not understand their own product line! I can run whatever BCG I want now so there's the silver lining to removing the sear block.
Hello, Pete. I think the A2 build with the H & R lower is my favorite of your 20" builds, although I really like your Mforgery, as you call it! I recently found ACC - Aeroshell 33MS mil spec Grease .25 oz. jar on Classic Firearms website for $3.99. Site says that's enough for approximately 5 builds using on the barrel nut, muzzle device and buffer tube. Isn't that what was replaced by the Aeroshell 64? I've been looking online at bench vises, also, Pete, and I'd like to ask for your opinion on them, if you don't mind. I've found a Bessey 4-1/2" light duty vise with 4-1/2" maximum jaw opening and weighs 11.3 lbs, for $54 and change. Next is a Wen 5" heavy duty vise with 4-1'2" max. jaw opening, weighing in at 23.7 lbs. Both of those are at Home Depot. The last two are Central Forge brand from Harbor Freight, the first is a 4-1/2" light duty with max. jaw opening of 4", for $36.99. Last is a 5" vise with max. opening of 5", weighing 21 lbs. for $59.99. What jaw opening and duty rating would you suggest, Pete? I'm looking for an old car body to place it under for best usage, as I saw you suggest! LOL! By the way, that's a nice '71 Camaro you're restoring. Great looking engine and parts you've replaced and changed. Muscle cars rule! Thanks, Pete and enjoy your evening!
Hi! John, Aeroshell 33MS to my knowledge has been superseded by Aeroshell 64. The last time I investigated there is no shelf life for either one so keeping a lid on the stuff it should last a lifetime. I think for firearms it won't matter at all which one you use. My only recommendation would be to get a vice that is going to be good well beyond the clamping force required for 80ftlbs of barrel torque. When I built my FNFAL's I was well over 100ftlbs timing the barrels. My old Wilton vise weighs about 75lbs and I'm not sure what it's rated for but it's a beefy burrito! You can't have a flimsy bench either! Waiting for the weather to cool off a little more to finish the wiring on my "71" Camaro. Got a few hours worth left. Double check everything I have done, get fluids, a battery and then hire about five people to stand around with fire extinguishers before I turn the key! It's a real pleasure installing barrels under the Camaro! Lol! The older I get the more organized I was! The garage is a disaster!
@@peteregger7928 Thanks, Pete! Your vise is a Beast@ 75 lbs.! I'm sure you'll do an excellent job rewiring your Camaro. That will be a nice ride, once you're finished restoring it. I remember the old muscle cars back in the dark ages, my day. We all had "hot rods" and constantly worked on them. Lots of great memories. I had a couple of friends who had the '66 Chevelle SS w/ 396, a couple of '68-69 Camaros w/ the 327, the Novas w/ 350 with a 4-bolt main. I had a '69 Mach 1 / 350 Cleveland. Saturday Nite drag races, those were the days. I've been watching your '71 restoration, that's cool. You're multi-talented for sure, Pete! No fire extinguishers will be needed! Thanks for the vise info. I've chosen a 5" max. opening w/ 6600 lbs of clamping force. I appreciate you, Pete and have a great week!
@@John-zf5wc Thanks John! I had a "68" Chevelle SS 396/375HP 4 speed with solid lifters back in "74". I had a cam in it so it was making more than stock numbers and Chevy always underrated their horsepower claims because of the insurance companies BS! A couple of years later I ended up with a "69" El Camino SS that was badged by Chevy as a 396 but it was actually a 400. Chevrolet had run out of passenger blocks in "69" and put truck blocks in them that were about 1/4" taller on the deck height. Can't remember if they used different pistons or slightly longer connecting rods? That one had a Turbo 400 and would shred the tires for blocks! Later on I put a large port 427 in it! If I kept my foot out of it maybe 12 MPG on a good day. I use to joke that if I left these cars idling at the gas station I could never fill them up!
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Thanks Chris! I loaded this one real early!
I wonder if any of the old manufacturers following cage codes, still in business, would have any NOS and was allowed to sell parts? Very nice upgrades. My old ban era Bushy A2 has a nice stock, buttplate and door. Thanks for making Apex parts unavailable. Lol
Ha! Ha! Apex comment! Lol! There's a guy on Ebay selling USGI A2 butt plates with the FSCM (CAGE) 76963 and NSN 1005-01-146-7685 still in the original Milspec packaging. Just the butt plates without the doors in boxes of 100 at $129.00 per box. Says he has 8 boxes last time I checked. Looks to be the real deal? I don't need 100 A2 butt plates but I think the issue may be that finding that many A2 metal trap doors to go with them is no longer possible? Apex has a note at the bottom of their description for the NOS A2 metal doors that once they're sold out that there will be no more! I'm thinking that Fulton Armory can find the A2 butt plates but this is the reason they have been installing A1 metal doors which have not become unobtainium for whatever reason? Still lots of all plastic stuff available on the market!
@@peteregger7928... If you could find someone with 800 metal doors we'd be in business. I guess the guy on ebay already found out, no cigar.
A1 build would be great! I did one but opted for 1/9 twist as to correct 1/12
No forward assist but teeth on bcg
Couldnt find one in chrome/"in the white" finish bcg
I don't have any A1 variants. Now that I have a couple of A1 doors! Lol!
Peter: When are you going to make a "Delta" clone like mine! Cherokee cheek piece...3-9x40 Banner 2 scope with original "ARMS" mount. I had to file the sear block anvil down a little under the lower to get full auto bolt carrier in it. I converted my Colt Match Sporter HBAR into a "Delta" clone. I put a QD sling mount under the lower portion of the handguard...as under the FSB is a no-go as it puts pressure on the barrel affecting accuracy.
Ha! Ha! almost bought one back in the day! I still have an old rubberized 3-9X40 Tasco from when I was going to set up my old Sporter like a Delta back in the 90's. I imagine just the original Delta medallion grip alone would really set you back today $$$ if you could ever find one! I wonder what an original mint Delta goes for these days? Most youngsters don't even know what they are!
@@peteregger7928 My brother has one....about $2500-3000. He DOES NOT want to sell it....fired it in a few military matches and it was very accurate....no more so than my clone!
@@bobbygray496 Nice! Looking back I realize there were a lot of missed opportunities! Wish I had a crystal ball!
@@peteregger7928 I forgot to mention that because of that stupid sear block I had to get a great trigger. The only one that has the large pin Colt trigger was Geissele. I dropped it in and it fit perfect under the sear block. It was a Geissele SSA-E two stage trigger. Second stage is around 2 lbs. That made a world of difference in accurate shooting. Thank you Geissele!
@@bobbygray496 I think he's the only one left making a large pin MilSpec type that will work with the sear block. Velocity may be one of the last modular's with large pins but wont work with the sear block. When I removed the sear block on my Match Target I had called twice and talking with two different representatives was told that the sear block would have to come out. The description for the Geissele at the time did not say one way or the other. The two representatives were wrong and did not understand their own product line! I can run whatever BCG I want now so there's the silver lining to removing the sear block.
Hello, Pete. I think the A2 build with the H & R lower is my favorite of your 20" builds, although I really like your Mforgery, as you call it! I recently found ACC - Aeroshell 33MS mil spec Grease .25 oz. jar on Classic Firearms website for $3.99. Site says that's enough for approximately 5 builds using on the barrel nut, muzzle device and buffer tube. Isn't that what was replaced by the Aeroshell 64? I've been looking online at bench vises, also, Pete, and I'd like to ask for your opinion on them, if you don't mind. I've found a Bessey 4-1/2" light duty vise with 4-1/2" maximum jaw opening and weighs 11.3 lbs, for $54 and change. Next is a Wen 5" heavy duty vise with 4-1'2" max. jaw opening, weighing in at 23.7 lbs. Both of those are at Home Depot. The last two are Central Forge brand from Harbor Freight, the first is a 4-1/2" light duty with max. jaw opening of 4", for $36.99. Last is a 5" vise with max. opening of 5", weighing 21 lbs. for $59.99. What jaw opening and duty rating would you suggest, Pete? I'm looking for an old car body to place it under for best usage, as I saw you suggest! LOL! By the way, that's a nice '71 Camaro you're restoring. Great looking engine and parts you've replaced and changed. Muscle cars rule! Thanks, Pete and enjoy your evening!
Hi! John, Aeroshell 33MS to my knowledge has been superseded by Aeroshell 64. The last time I investigated there is no shelf life for either one so keeping a lid on the stuff it should last a lifetime. I think for firearms it won't matter at all which one you use. My only recommendation would be to get a vice that is going to be good well beyond the clamping force required for 80ftlbs of barrel torque. When I built my FNFAL's I was well over 100ftlbs timing the barrels. My old Wilton vise weighs about 75lbs and I'm not sure what it's rated for but it's a beefy burrito! You can't have a flimsy bench either! Waiting for the weather to cool off a little more to finish the wiring on my "71" Camaro. Got a few hours worth left. Double check everything I have done, get fluids, a battery and then hire about five people to stand around with fire extinguishers before I turn the key! It's a real pleasure installing barrels under the Camaro! Lol! The older I get the more organized I was! The garage is a disaster!
@@peteregger7928 Thanks, Pete! Your vise is a Beast@ 75 lbs.! I'm sure you'll do an excellent job rewiring your Camaro. That will be a nice ride, once you're finished restoring it. I remember the old muscle cars back in the dark ages, my day. We all had "hot rods" and constantly worked on them. Lots of great memories. I had a couple of friends who had the '66 Chevelle SS w/ 396, a couple of '68-69 Camaros w/ the 327, the Novas w/ 350 with a 4-bolt main. I had a '69 Mach 1 / 350 Cleveland. Saturday Nite drag races, those were the days. I've been watching your '71 restoration, that's cool. You're multi-talented for sure, Pete! No fire extinguishers will be needed! Thanks for the vise info. I've chosen a 5" max. opening w/ 6600 lbs of clamping force. I appreciate you, Pete and have a great week!
@@John-zf5wc Thanks John! I had a "68" Chevelle SS 396/375HP 4 speed with solid lifters back in "74". I had a cam in it so it was making more than stock numbers and Chevy always underrated their horsepower claims because of the insurance companies BS! A couple of years later I ended up with a "69" El Camino SS that was badged by Chevy as a 396 but it was actually a 400. Chevrolet had run out of passenger blocks in "69" and put truck blocks in them that were about 1/4" taller on the deck height. Can't remember if they used different pistons or slightly longer connecting rods? That one had a Turbo 400 and would shred the tires for blocks! Later on I put a large port 427 in it! If I kept my foot out of it maybe 12 MPG on a good day. I use to joke that if I left these cars idling at the gas station I could never fill them up!