Think A One Ton Truck Is Big Enough? What Are The Differences And Why You Might Want A 550 or 5500?
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- Опубліковано 12 лип 2021
- We built our overland truck camper on a singled-out flatbed Ram 5500 because a one-ton truck just wasn't big enough. In this video, we take a deeper look at our Ram 5500 truck and share the differences you will find between the two truck types.
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Absolutely love the new rig... The wife an I have been talking about going this direction for a year or so now, so we're excited to see more of the truck & camper.
You guys really landed into a find with this truck. Hoping to see more vids soon
Thanks for all the information. Makes total sense why you went with this truck. I’m looking forward to seeing the inside of the camper.
I have been looking forward to this new series since I saw you promoting it!
Yah for a truck camper, can't wait to see your travels in the lower 48.
Very thorough information comparing the two trucks! Thank you!
Just ordered a one ton dually for my new Northern Lite 10.2 . Never even thought about the flat bed idea but sure seems smart for all of the extra storage for full time living! Great episode!
Is Dodge affected by the chip shortage?Wife and I are looking into the exact setup as you. When considering the flatbed, it might put you over GVW which is exactly why Morton decided to upgrade to this Dodge 5500. With so much economic uncertainty taking place, we’re thinking waiting it out for awhile to see if Americans are done maxing out they’er credit before we make a big purchase. If its fun, or housing related, its way over valued.
@@garbinator09 all new vehicles, cell phones, TV, basically everything new takes those chips so yes. Sure you could find one if you travel. That's why used vechles market is crazy right now. With the current administration it will not get better only worse.
@@mrrod3004 - Just spent an hour on Carvauna searching for GMC used 2500’s even 3500’s. All a No-Go or sale pending. “The buying Pandemic”
Awesome rig, jealous! Thanks for the info! 👍
We're all ready for the new adventures!!! 👍
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Alaska! Here we come again!? With this rig, you would probably get see more of the great outdoors.....can hardly wait for your upcoming adventures.
Cool rig. Thanks for detailed description
I saw this truck for sale months ago on expediton portal. If I could have imported it to Canada I would have bought it instantly. You got a hell of a deal.
Amazing truck. You give awesome information, had so many questions before I watched your video, you answered them all, thank you.
Now that’s a TRUCK! I will be following along.
Awesome build guys and congratulations! Happy trails and safe travels ahead!
Great job explaining how, what and why you built this!
Great video! Awesome rig! Well explained and easy to follow. I followed your other series travelling North, and can’t wait to see where you get to in this rig, and the modifications you make to it. It wouldn’t work for me, with two small kids, but I can always live vicariously through you.
Thank you!
Great video and awesome platform. Can't wait to see the rest of the videos on the build-out and trips. This is basically the same thing I've been looking to build (but Ford and NorthernLite) in a few years.
Thanks!
Great looking ride, safe travels
Can’t wait for this series to get going! I was looking at Stable Camper myself. They convert the truck bed to a flatbed and let you customize the boxes/storage you want
Yea! They do a great job.
Your videos are all so professional and very informative.
Glad to see the build. I almost went this route but instead decided to 4x4 a 1993 e250 class b Eldorado as a relatively inexpensive adventure vehicle. It's just me so small room doesn't matter.
Love the new truck. Hope to see you both on the road.
Thanks Curtis! Same here :)
You got my dream truck there!!
This looks like a more "off the shelf" version of the Everlanders rig. I will be interested to watch you both for similarities and differences. Cheers from Canada!
Very informative vid of a dream overlanding setup. Good stuff!
There is a reason we use the word "payload," and not "weight carrying capacity."
Lord I felt like I was being taught by a third grade teacher
Talking more about the drivetrain modifications and numbers seems to scare away some of the dumber audience, so I guess he opted against that.
@@jamesellsworth240 What a stupid comment.
Excellent in detail video! Great truck! Been doing lots of research exactly for this type of truck over 350 and 450. You guys enjoy your travels and keep posting!
Being a poor 26yo at the time, I went with a 2001 e450 7.3 shuttle bus off Craigslist for $3k about 3 years ago. I put 12k into engine/bumper/skidplates/tires/lithium/solar/hot shower... all the essentials. Best $15k I've ever spent.supposed to take off next week with dog.
Thank you!
I currently have an F550 I purchased new in 17. I have been pulling a 43’ toy hauler. I now want to down size to a truck camper.
I have spent tons of time thinking about the super singles. I for sure want to go that way. I am in search of the right camper.
Yes. My toy hauler will be for sale soon. Along with the 16 CVO Street Glide.
Now that you're talking truck camper you got my attention.
Great video, I learned a bunch. Thanks!
You're welcome! Glad it was helpful. :)
Bad ass!!!! I'm feeling so inferior in my tinewennie Ram 3500!
4x4 diesel manual is the unicorns of trucks now nice find
First time watcher and awesome video and even better truck
I'm really glad I watched this video, I learned something new today.
Thank you 😌
Glad to hear you enjoyed it! :)
Very good video, great truck. Didn't feel talked down to. Can't wait for the next video. Thanks! Love my ram and Cummins.
Great job with the video itself and very clear explanation and great microphone, editing, etc!
Thanks!
Can't wait to see the adventures. Nice walk-thru video here.
Thank you!
Ok so I am officially jealous, and fyi I dig this kind of content big time.
What a story 😂 you flew across the country, bought a truck and trusted it worked well, and picked up a trailer along the way, crazy!
I am in love with your truck!!! I love everything about it. It’s exactly what I would want for myself in a heavier duty truck. I’m just not convinced I need one bad enough to justify the expense over my 2005 single tire Ram 3500 with a manual transmission.
Thank you!
Very thorough video, thank you for all the info. You really thought this whole thing out in advance and picked the perfect rig for this type of setup. I did feel like the 1172 was a bit too big on that Ford you guys had before. Smart moves for sure!
Thanks! We were maxing out the Ford, but with this RAM 5500, we have a lot more wiggle room with payload.
Love the truck, what was the reason someone on Kodiak Island sold with ALL those beautiful upgrades..?
Just picked up our 22 5500 4x4
Congratulations, hope you are having a wonderful time!
Wow lots a mods looking forward to your adventures the trip to ak was dope Morton's on big move
What a beast! Nice modifications. All very interesting.
Thank you!
Really enjoyed the video as well as very informational , When you are ready we would like to purchase it from you Lol , it shows it’s been about a year I hope your travels have been safe and exciting and good luck to you!,Thanks again great video!.
Sweet ride! Congratulations.🎊🎉
Thanks!
This is a BAD ASS TRUCK!!!!!
So sick you got a manual! Nobody ever goes that route. Also really awesome that the truck is already deleted, tuned, and upgraded.
Yep when MPT81 tires get old and the lugs start cracking they wear fast. Only thing is we pay $420 For Mpt tires and $800 for G275 tires.
This has got to be your BEST video... I've been trying to figure out what to do in my situation; I have a 5th wheel but want to go the TC route. Now I know what to do, never even thought about a 4500 flatbed. I just have to figure out a good tie down system and getting the correct electric jacks as I'm full-time and need to offload truck camper... Awesome video can't wait for more...
Al ✌️
Thank you! You may want to check out the articles we wrote about these topics, too. :)
mortonsonthemove.com/best-truck-camper-jacks/
mortonsonthemove.com/flatbed-truck-camper/
thanks for information
Looking forward to seeing your future modifications!
With a flatbed, be careful and check with states you will be traveling in you may have to stop at all truck weigh stations. CA is one of those states, that requires any truck with any thing other than a regular truck bed to stop at weigh stations.
Thanks for the tip!
Well done great choice
Great Vid Content , I can completely identify because i have one = 2018 Ram 5500 6 sp man 4.88 stock gears & motor , duel 220 amp alternator . Super single Hutchison bead lock wheels . "I extended my front AEV flares another 4" , easy to do , i think i have a vid ( they are very rookie vids ) Your Mod's are whats providing you with the great miles per gal. You have a beast of a truck and very lucky to have gotten it with a 6sp. , they are extinct . In 4 low 1st gear , it becomes a tractor ! " Alpha Truck House / Wild & Free ... ~peace~
Just debadge the truck. It looks great and you don’t have to worry about them looking at it as a 5500. I noticed that when I debadged I got a little less hassle with my srw
And put one of those "hybrid synergy drive" emblems on the side like the priuses have so you can virtue signal about it being a "hybrid" just like all the other hybrids rolling down the road hahahaha
Kicking around ram5500 with buckstop and liquid spring buildout for overland rig. Super cool setup u found
Very informative video!
Thank you!
Thank God I own a 2019 3500 Ram High output dually..
What a great explanation
Thank you!
The 2021 Ram 5500 cab and chassis has a recall for a rod going through the block problem. It’s a software issue, the engine runs a lower oil pressure at startup to speed up warm up. This resulted in burning up the rod bearings. Yes crazy but true. The good news is they can just reflash the truck, bad news is you don’t know what damage has already been done.
Good to see you back. I enjoyed your Alaska trip. Looking forward to this build. Have you seem the StabeCamper flat bed boxes? Might work for you. Have you considered a drop down cooking center. ( like Australians use) I always preferred cooking outside.
I remember seeing this truck on Expedition Portal. Excited to see what’s happening to it.
Lol, yup that's where we found it!
That truck is badass
I tried to buy this truck. sooooo this is where it went... now im on the truck hunt again....
Adding to the comments about the commercial aspect of the truck, check jurisdictions before you enter, as they may require a commercial driver’s licence, or CDL, and you might also be required to run a log book as well. This could prove to be a very expensive lesson roadside (as in stopped by the local law enforcement types).
Great stuff...just subscribed after my truck camper buddy in Idaho recommended ur channel. Question: What source did you use to locate a used 5500 with the SRW conversion? I’m using truck paper and autotrader...any other recommended sources? Awesome content...really looking forward to the custom storage you are planning for the sides as an alternative to a prebuilt like sherptek. Thanks again!
HI GUYS , GOD bless you !
You have great presentation skills 🙂
Thank you!
Tom, you are just awesome. Where did you learn all that "stuff". Wish you the best on your new travels.
Cool vid .. good points..
nice setup. Have been planning a RAM 5500 design with an Overland Explorer truck camper using their tray but realized the truck modifications would be better for me to have done by an Overland Explorer dealer in Colorado whom also has an off road truck modification business.
Shuttle bus is the way to go my guy. $100000 for a setup like this is just crazy talk for an emissions controlled nonsense piece of junk.
@@thomasbarlow4223 careful. Talk like this on youtube will have the EPA trying to figure how to send you a six figure dollar emissions violation pentalty fine. haha
@@lrobie123 Yes except for you have to remember a 2001 7.3 comes factory with no emissions control systems it doesn't even have a catalytic converter. Fuck the EPA
Very cool
Love my 2001 e450 shuttle bus 7.3 powerstroke baby. Best $3000 I've ever spent. Gonna make it 4x4 and I'm going to 12 valve Cummins swap it so I have a completely mechanical diesel that won't leave you stuck in the middle of the desert because it crank sensor went bad.
Love the truck! I'd like some more info on the air compressor in the underbody box, thanx!
I have a RAM 5500 CA84 with a Knapheide flatbed and a Eagle Cap 1165 camper. The problem with flatbeds is they are designed for downward pressure and not upward. I talked with Knapheide and several other flatbed manufactures about the best way to tie down a 6000 pound camper and they all said that they don't recommend tying the camper to the flatbed because in rare conditions you can have a large upward force on the flatbed. My solution was to used an 8ft H-Beam and two 24 inch u-bolts that go around the frame and tie to the H-Beam which is on the top of the flatbed. I then put very large D-Rings on the H-Beam to tie down the front of the camper. For the rear I used a square steel tube the same size as a TorkLift tiedown and tied that into the rear hitch setup. That way I can use my TorkLift tiedown inserts for the rear of the camper. In the future I plan to weld together a setup I can bolt to the frame that will sit under the flatbed. Since I have an 11ft bed you still need something on the bed to keep the camper from sliding forward in a sudden stop. The H-Beam is currently doing that and I figure something out when I modify the setup in the future. With an 11ft bed I have room in the front for a Honda 3000i generator and another fuel tank.
Pete, I found your post above informative. Could you advise how wide your flatbed is? I have an 11' flatbed as well mounted on a F350 dually and want to put a truck camper on, but its 8 wide' (i.e., 96") and I'm curious what others are running. Thanks.
@@ShawnHedges I believe it's 8ft wide. I have my camper on the bed plus two 6 foot boxes under the wings. My camper is 102 inches wide.
@@petehaidinyak9084 - Thank you.
nice rig, id feel like the king of the hill in a truck like that lol
Great video! Whats the bumper? I love the look and just bought a 4500. Ah. Must be Buckstop where they got the conversion kit. Looks great.
Sweet ride! If you have synthetic cable on the winch... don’t do what I did. If you use it under a load you can “melt” and “squish” it together. You need to unspool the cable and pull your truck under load. This stretches the cable and will wrap on the drum tight. Hope that makes sense...
Good tip! I will be sure to do that.
Tom, I noticed you are running synthetic winch line with a cable fairlead. As an off-road guy with plenty of winch pulls, I would strongly recommend either switching to wire rope (cable) or switching your fairlead from a roller model (designed for wire rope) to a hawse type fairlead.
I won't get into the endless debate over synthetic versus wire rope :) but I will say you run the risk of your current fairlead shredding your synthetic line, which could then fail under load.
Overall, an awesome rig, and I totally understand why you elected to go with a heavier-duty platform for this particular application. Happy travels!
Thank you for the tip!
I've been wanting to do the same build you have bought. I'm still looking for a Ram 5500 with a manual transmission though. Your setup will last you for many years too come. Safe travels
Hope you find one! We've been loving this truck. :)
now youve gone and ruined my plans for buying a 5500 manual to do this kind of setup for it. I fear after this video and the ones to follow they will be even harder to find now. lol
Afraid to ponder the cost of all that . Very awesome overlander for sure , thanks for the very informative video .
On an F-350 you can swap axles from a 450 or 550 Pickup (Not cab/chassis - but models that came with a regular dually bed). Solid axle swaps are all bolt on, no welding or cutting required. Dunno about the dodge or chevy stuff. One of the reasons I love the ford, they kept the trucks very similar between truck series. Kinda of the best of both worlds. Power rating of the Light duty, axles from an MDT.
Or just get the F450 pickup version off the bat.
My Dad had a really old Dump Truck - it was a 6500 and stick. You could probably skip 1st gear and start in 2nd gear until you add more steel plated storage boxes to it.
Yea on the flat we start in 2nd. Gets going slot faster.
Hey Tom, great adventures and new truck! Sorry if I missed it, but what is the CA length of your truck? Do you or any of your followers know who makes front and rear lockers for the 5500? Thanks very much! Safe travels!!
I've been following your post now for about2 month's now and your presentations are very excellent. I'm leaving for Alaska from Palm Coast Florida in my F350 Platinum and it's a 2014 an old couple had it with only 180,000 miles on it. It's never been on a dirt road it's in brand new condition. I have a Newcamp Cirrus 820 on it. It weighs 2900 empty. I took it on a short 2500 mile trip and it handled incredibly well. It's not a dually. It's funny that you bought yours in Alaska I told my wife that if someone offered me over$100,000 for it in Alaska I would sell it. That remains to be seen because I love it. I'm a retired Navy Photographer so I will be photographing the trip stay tuned..
Wow that sounds like a great setup! You will absolutely love that trip :) Be safe.
Terry, How did your AK trip go? Any pointers?
@@bob_frazier if your referring to Alaska Canada would not allow me to enter. I was there on August 11th the day it was supposed to open and at the last moment they changed the date. So any pointers I guess none. I have sold my truck and camper and that's a good thing with fuel prices through the roof.
@@terrylarkin690 Oh, what a sad outcome! Sorry to hear that Terry. Yeah, fuel is up, thinking this may bring truck and camper prices down though. (Hopefully!)
Bob I'm curious whe did you 1st ask this question because of the time difference. I left on my trip back in July. The reason I wanted to drive the Alaska Hwy was my dad was a engineer and surveyor for the Alaska HWY during WW2 in 1942 they built that HWY in 1 year because it was feared the Japanese would attempt to invade us from the North and they did invade the Aleutian Islands in June 1942. My dad had flat feet so he was ineligible to go into the Army then so for his part he served as an engineer for his part during the war. His brother Art served in the Army in the Pacific so there was a few jokes about it as I was growing up. I'm a Vietnam Veteran and served in the Navy as Photographers Mate PH2 E5. I had planned on photographing my entire trip so I'm thoroughly upset that I was not able to do this. I'm 71 and I don't think I will get this chance again. Just maybe if fuel prices go so high people start selling there Class C campers cheaper I might be able to pull it off. I had a Cirrus Camper and loved it but my wife couldn't go with me because of the bed situation. I have very nice Sony A7riv and I just ordered a A7iv so along with my lenses I have the equipment I just need a Camper that won't break the bank. I actually made money on the sale of my F350 and the Cirrus. I thoroughly enjoy your posting and adventures. Maybe someday we will cross paths. Oh and between what you have posted on what you have doe with your rig along with Soneyboot I was able to make it work much better. OK I'm to long winded I know.
Nice truck and outfit. Well thought out. What company manufactures the front bumper for your truck?
Dude I’m in Alaska and almost bought and really wanted to buy that truck off marketplace glad to see it went to a good home though.
I’ve done a whole lot of research on medium duty trucks lately, and here’s what GM says about their 4500-6500 series chassis cab trucks. The major difference is in the suspension systems, which are progressively beefier as the trucks get larger. Engines, transmissions, frames, etc. are all basically the same, but the heavier suspension systems allow for greater payload weights.
If your going off-roading with that camper shell? You better bring a pole saw. I barely clear with a FWC camper often.
What year is this truck Mr. Morton? I think you've just shifted my interest as far as building platform for a full time RV. Love the channel!
It is a 2011. Info was on their website in one of their posts about where they have been.
Yes, the truck is a 2011. mortonsonthemove.com/morton-update-july-2021/
WoW , what an awesome rig! Congrats! It looks like you may have taken a couple of those aerial video clips FPV? DJI ? or ? Great work as always. Aloha from Maui ✌🏼
Aloha! Yea I fly alot of FPV Those shots were on the DJI FPV, easy for video but I fly alot of custom rigs too.
The only change I would have made is a longer bed for added support of the camper and the ability to tow a boat with it. Beautiful truck!
We are shifting the camper forward and moving the spare. The bed is 11-6 feet long so it will be mostly supported on it. Even as is in this vid however we can and have towed our boat behind it without a stinger. Love that functionality of truck campers!
Can you do a video with links or a blog with links about your truck modifications? I'm researching them, and it is possible to find them, but definitely a lot of time in. I'm personally interested in your engine and transmission mods, how you found them, why, and where to get them done. As well as costs of the mods as well.
Very nice Truck! :)
Thanks!
I tend to go smaller and lighter, easier to get in and out of hard to reach places.
More stuff, more weight, more complexity, more problems.
But I guess it really depends on your life style.
Greetings, enjoy all the videos. I’m looking at a Ram 4500/5500 and wondering what axle gears do you have? 4.44 or ? How is the mileage with the gearing? Thanks, Kelly
Looks like you all figured some things out and won't be uncontrollably (and dangerously) bouncing down the road like you all were with your last slide in camper set up.