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AGER'S SCEPTER 🧊 [Full Breakdown] The Best Trace Rifle in D2?
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- Опубліковано 17 сер 2024
- In this video we'll be diving into the Stasis Exotic Trace Rifle, Ager's Scepter. With a Stasis focus season potentially looming on the horizon, I figured this would be a good time to dust it off, get all of the pertinent information updated, and discuss how it holds up in the game currently. Enjoy! 🍻
Time Stamps
0:00 Why Now?
0:37 Stats and Perks
1:40 Short Rant
2:30 Functionality
4:04 PvE Damage
5:53 PvE Performance
8:59 PvP Testing
Bungie are missing like crazy with seasonal exotics as of late but this one they absolutely nailed. They need to get back to this level imo.
I couldn't agree more. Bungie really outdid themselves with this one! 😁👍
You mean powercreep, you want powercreep. Your assessment of the value that exotics bring to the game is so binary and simplistic that you only see value in them if they advance the meta even further towards powercreep. There is a fantastic reason games are balanced by idiots and powercreep is the number 1 reason.
@vorpalweapon4814 Nope I just mean as in good/fun. Doesn't have to do anything for the meta. Revision zero was alright but required a ton of work, Manticore is awful, Verglass is cool but it has the issue of being a primary bow, Vexcal is awful, Centrifuse just feels pointless & Wicked impliment is awful with a niche use. My point is when we only see 1 maybe 2 exotic weapons added every 100ish days them kinda being ass just doesn't feel good.
@@JakeDriver You just said you wanted them to be good and then attributed them to being "good" to being fun. Then you bashed the other exotics for being niche.
Its as though you don't realize that the game's meta is so unbalanced that anything that the power discrepancy between tools at the bottom of the meta and the top of the meta is massive.
Shouldn’t the TTK for pvp be less since constant firing will freeze enemy leading to increase damage and potential shatter? Right now you are hip firing so the freeze isn’t happening on catalyst
Agers is absolutely a dps option, and it gets better with a team! The constant freezing boosts all damage that hits it by 5% (stacking), and teammates can increase the rate that the boss shatters to cycle faster.
Super good information here. Didn't realize that its inherently 30% more damage vs bosses.
Love your work mate!
A great point! While 5% may not seem like a ton, across an entire fireteam for a prolonged period of time, that damage can really add up! 👍🍻
next season it becomes 10% so even better! It's the only thing i'm happy about in the entire twab apart from the glacier grenade buffs LMAO
Another hint towards Stasis being a focus next season is that all the fragments will be easily unlocked by just buying them from Elsie Bray, so a lot of people who never bothered with the quests are going to have have a lot more build crafting options to try out as well
I did enough to get some initial builds but even with thousands of hours since beyond light i will still benefit from the change. I could go for a stasis heavy season
Ahhh! I never picked up on that! 👍👍
Well this aged like milk.
Combining Ager’s Scepter with Mantle of Battle Harmony for Warlock makes this weapon even more effective, as getting kills with a weapon that matches your subclass gets you super energy very quickly. And while your super is full, you deal more base weapon damage if that weapon matches your subclass. So while the Will Given Form buff is active, you will be offsetting some of that super drain because of Mantle of Battle Harmony. Very fun, very synergistic gameplay loop.
Came her to say this exact thing.
It really is a fantastic exotic combo! 👍👍
it would be awesome if it worked but its bugged and does not benefit from any surge type dmg up... bungie know it and does nothing about it
The moment you activate the catalyst and just become Mr Freeze "WHAT KILLED THE DINOSAURS? THE ICE AGE!"
😂👍🍻
Ager's is one of the few weapons that are hard locked into some of my builds instead of leaving the weapon slots open.
Same here! It's a weapons that good enough to "make" a build, rather than just complimenting a build. 👍👍
Man, Ager's Scepter is one of my favorite weapons. Probably my favorite PVE weapon, as I play exclusively Stasis Titan. Well, I used to play Stasis Titan, now I'm just off D2. Maybe for the time being, but at this point this may be the time I retire my cowboy hat and my fun freezy shenaniganry. It's no fun when D2 is less fun.
Well, it is at least a very solid trace rifle. Helps with majors and minors, freezes everything so you can always control how the battle goes, not to mention that even its default design is pretty damn nice, too. This was the first exotic weapon I earned from a mission, if not my first exotic weapon ever.
I can definitely understand stepping away from the game. While I keep myself entertained by constantly rotating weapons in and out of my inventory, I'm certainly not blind to the fact that the game is getting stale. I really hope that Bungie does something to get things turned around, but my "cautious optimism" is nearly at an all time low. 👍👍
@@IronworkerGaming Though, on a happier note: Ager's Sceptor pairs very well with Whisper of Refraction! On Behemoth, I wear Hoarfrost-Z, you see. Using the fragment and the weapon, I get lots of class ability energy quickly. This in turn gave me lots of crystals to work with. And I do mean lots! The crystals kept me alive via cover, DR, and great burst healing from Rime. At least Rime used to heal pretty nicely, but now it's just bad.
The Ice Beam Stasis Warlock with Cenotaph Mask and Arc staff Hunter with Blight Ranger equal… A machine gunner with the Assistant machine gunner. UNLIMITED POWER!
Indeed!! 👍😁
Ager's is practically one of those exotics made running Stasis on Hunter and Warlock fun. While I will agree that locking it behind an expansion for players is something everyone can disagree with, the potency of Ager's is definitely worth it in my opinion, especially with its ability to freeze lock all three champions.
And from what I just learned, Titans will also benefit from Ager's thanks to the changes coming to Icefall Mantle coming next season where activating your class ability, you gain the highest tier bonus damage to Stasis weapons, and we all know how ineffective the Titan's Stasis Super is in any content.
Ager's with the retuned Icefall Mantle could be really strong next season! Even as a Warlock main, that change certainly got my attention! 😂🍻
@@IronworkerGaming It certainly got my attention as well! Ager's is really changing Stasis a lot with the three classes
Gun to my head, if I was forced to only use a single weapon in Destiny it would be Ager's. It pretty much has everything and easily takes the award for the most well rounded gun. Ad clear, boss damage, subclass synergy, ammo economy, and anti-champion. Stasis-lock with Ager's is actually my go to build for day 1 raids since in a lot of encounters you need both ad clear and DPS.
Recently I've been using it with Cenotaph to give my team heavy ammo, and the auto-reload function of Cenotaph actually works when will given form is active for the bottom half of the mag. This is great for DPS since WGF will end when you deplete your ammo, so with Cenotaph you can actually drain the entire super. While the damage may not seem as good as the top heavies, it can actually compete with them when combined with a good burst DPS heavy weapon. You can fire 4 Cold Comfort rockets with bait n switch, then switch to Ager's instead of reloading. Or you can use a Typhon GL with explosive light, fire the first mag, then swap to Ager's for the rest of DPS. You might be surprised how good that DPS rotation is.
I think that I may be with you on that! Ager's is a weapon that can pretty much handle any situation, and it does it in impressive fashion in a lot of cases! It really is a fantastic exotic! 👍👍
Thank you for the very useful information in this video.
Absolutely man! It's my pleasure! 😁🍻
While Stasis Hunter has had a rough set of nerfs and changes, Agers is definitely one of the few guns worth running the subclass for.
This thing is an orb machine and it's super easy to dip into High Damage Mode often in PvE.
PvP... It's harder to use and I'm still learning how to best use it. Radiant Agers may be the play.
Thank you for saying that about the devs. Too many in the community are quick to harass them but don't understand that the higher ups are probably the ones hurting the health of the game for the sake of profit.
Indeed. It is really sad seeing anger and frustration targeted towards the Devs and CMs when, often times, they really have no say in a lot of the issues. I hope nobody in my UA-cam community *actually* needed to hear this, but...just in case...😁🍻
I don't get why Stasis isn't more popular, especially with Shadebinder. Ager's with Osmiomancy Gloves can freeze entire rooms while spawning Stasis shards for overshields. Plus, running a rocket launcher with Demolitionist with Osmiomancy means a lot of rocket spam.
Because right now the option is
Freeze everything
Suspend everything (better than freezing )
Or just nuke everything with rocket spam
Stasis in its current form has been powercrept by strand. Suspend is stronger than freeze in 99% of cases and strand has better survivability thanks to woven mail
Like Elijah and Farmer said, it is being bumped to the side by Strand at the moment, but that is all subject to change if Bungie decides to reassess the potency of the subclass. Even in it's current state, Stasis is still a great for of crowd control, especially with Shadbinder's ability to lock down an entire area passively. 👍👍
This is my favorate exotic in the game, I also think it's the best PvE exotic, with maybe the exeption of Quicksilver storm. But the gun is so brilliant for crowd-control and add clear, and it can put out some DPS when you need it to. I have more kills with this weapon than any other and I'm proud of that.
That's awesome! It really is a fantastic exotic and covers a lot of bases extremely well! 👍👍
1:50 I mean did you read the state of game? bungie's a dirty company now. also Ager's is AMAZING and kind of always has been. glad to see it getting a video. and you're right, we should be getting something stasis themed soon.
Absolutely! I just feel very bad seeing devs and CMs getting harassed over problems that stem from "Corporate Bungie". Ager's really is a solid as it gets though! There's not much that this weapon can't do, and I'm excited to see how I can pair it up with the Stasis Seasonal mod selections when they come up! 👍👍
Ager’s has been my favorite PvE gun since it’s release. It’s such a versatile weapon. Happy to see it get some love years later.
Ager's really is a great exotic! It's interesting, unique, fun to use, and flat out get's the job done! 😁🍻
This weapon, coupled with Mantle of Battle Harmony, has a permanent slot in my loadouts. Cenotaph mask also pairs well, as it can reload the weapon, even with Will Given Form active. I expect Ballidorse Wrathweavers would pair very well with Ager's, but as the only Warlock in my group, I can't test this in endgame.
This weapon pairs very well with Warlock exotics specifically, although do not discount Mask of Bakris, or next season, Foetracer and Icefall Mantle.
One more thought, I have not tested it myself, if the Will Given Form ability counts as Super Damage, then Star-Eater Scales on Hunter would improve the damage of this weapon further, even if a bit impractical. Only one way to find out.
Hey buddy! Another amazing video! Always love seeing what’s next from you! I hope that you are doing well!!🍻
I really appreciate it man! I'm doing good. Busy...extremely busy, but I tend to function better when I have thing to keep me occupied...even if it's "too many things". 😂🍻
Shoutout to Cryosthesia 77k for doing slightly more base damage and not requiring a scavenger mod to work full time. Its a great alternative to Ager's Sceptor while getting absolutely none of the recognition.
Cryosthesia is a underutilized pick! While I do think Ager's is the overall stronger options, Cryosthesia brings more to the table than it's often credited for! 👍👍
This is my go to Stasis weapon, it's so fun freezing and shattering a big group of enemies! Only downside for me is accidental activation when reviving or picking up something.
I've been there before! With R and E being next to each other on the keyboard, I've definitely felt the disappointment of accidently holding down the wrong one! 😂👍
Ive had this as my stasis build since it came out. Combined with MoH on warlock.
Even though MoH doesnt stack with surges when its full, doesn't mean the surges wont work when you are charging it up or using the catalyst.
A very good point! I've seen a lot of people dismiss MoBH since the damage buff was retuned, but you can still get a good bit out of it...especially with Agers where using you're super can be more sporadic in nature. 👍🍻
Nice review. I’m considering using this instead of my Strand Hunter Super. 😂 Quick weapon swap. 😬
Chill Clip Legendaries is what preventing me from using Ager’s Scepter. Having a slow at the first shot for Overload Stunning and freeze/shatter with different weapon for Unstoppables. Ager’s Scepter alt fire mode might perform better against Barriers but for a Warlock, they can be solo’d by their Ballidorse Wrathweaver Super at any difficulty. But in more niches/messing around situations, Ager’s Scepter would be used more.
Great breakdown as always Ironworker👍🏾
Here’s to hoping they will revert the beyond light nerfs for stasis in pve. It needs it so bad.
Thank you very much! The upcoming Strand nerfs in Season 22 should provide Stasis some more breathing room, but at it's core, it certainly could afford to be a touch stronger. 👍👍
Agers is single handedly holding warlock stasis afloat for me lol
Haha, same here! Ager's does a ton of good for the Shadebinder kit! 👍👍
This gun is so good I had to stop using it so I could have more of a challenging experience in game. 9/10
I get it! Ager's really is a great exotic that does pretty much everything very well! 👍👍
You put "incentivizes not using your super" as a con.
To me it's a plus. I never liked the warlock's stasis super so having this awesome thing to dump the super into it just... was perfect for me. :D
Also just put on Mantle of Battle Harmony for basically infinite super-ray version. xD
Haha! Very true! As a Warlock, being able to ditch Winter's Wrath for an actually useful damage option can definitely be a plus! 😁🍻
Highly underused / underrated weapon
It really is a great exotic! 👍👍
That's the best weapon to make use of your stasis super, no matter the class, with that weapon (catalyst mandatory) your super sacrifice really matters
You know titans will be OP with this and the rework to icefall mantle this video was timed interestingly.
Right!? Even as someone who spends nearly all of my time on Warlock, I'm really excited to see how strong Ager's with Icefall Mantle could be next season! 👍👍
@@IronworkerGaming if the damage perk works in pvp a strand titan running a stasis weapon will be scary
I slept on this thing for ages until you did that build vid! Unfortunately we lost the HeF/font double damage! Wonder if surge mods come close?
I've been toying around with Ager's with a Solar subclass actually. While it does nix a ton of the benefits that come from pairing it with Stasis, Radiant + 3x Stasis Surge can get you close to 1 million damage in a single Will Given Form activation. It will be tough for it to hit the numbers we saw a few seasons back when Solo Operative and Weaken Clear were also helping it's damage on top of HEF and FoM, but it's something! 👍👍
@@IronworkerGaming woah thats a great idea, quicker super regen too.
Thanks for doing the work
You're very welcome man! 👍🍻
I love using this gun with my titans solar build, radiant does wonders with this shockingly
I dooooo thimk the super drain of the catalyst should be slowed a wee bit by maybe 5 seconds slower so you get 25 odd seconds tbh
Our brains must function on the same wavelength! Running Ager's on Solar is a sneaky-good option! I really like going that route on Warlock with the short super cooldown on Well, and Rain of Fire to extend the rounds that can be fired with Will Given Form! 👍👍
@IronworkerGaming it defo shocked me how interestingly good it was on solar ! It's always gunna be best on stasis warlock for sure. Also the fact that next season all stasis fragments will get to be bought outright, I suspect stasis artifact mods will be in stock so I am super excited as a Stasis Titan Main 👀 👀
I heard somewhere that when it comes to recoil direction 100 is not the best. Something about odd numbers being better and a perfectly vertical recoil direction was 95 or 99. I thought it was super weird but they said it with a lot of confidence.
100 recoil direction ensures your weapon's recoil is consistently vertical or to phrase it more simply, when you fire, the weapon will pull straight up. Merely a matter predictability and reliability.
What might take away from the laser tag experience is low stability, as it affects how strong the recoil is, and the fact that each weapon archetype (like lightweight pulse rifle or agressive handcannon) has it's own recoil pattern. Agressive archetypes have more of a kick to them by nature, coupled with their slower fire-rate so 100 RD has less impact on their 'handlability' than stability might provide.
To get back on topic, while 95 recoil direction is in no way superior to 100 (and yes, RD numbers ending in 5 are in general more vertical due to the wave-like function of the recoil formula), it does still provide a very small cone for the weapon's recoil that is entirely vertical. The issue proposed is more a matter wasted investment. There is no incentive to apply a counterbalance mod (+15 RD) to a weapon that has 95 RD.
And finaly, recoil has always been more of a "feel" than hard stat advantage. If you tend to pull your mouse a bit to the right when dragging it downwards because that's just how you handle a mouse, a recoil direction that tends left might be more your style than a completely vertical one, allowing you to more easily keep your aim on-target
Evgengolob summed that up pretty well! 😂🍻
My memory of this weapon is constantly being out of ammo.
Love Agers with warlock because it turns your ad control super into a damage super. Also, have you experimented with the strand dawn chorus combo I suggested a few weeks ago?
It really is a great play for Warlock particularly! Unfortunately, I haven't had a chance to try your DC / Strand build as of yet. It's on my white board staring at me, but I've been swamped as of late. I'm definitely going to give it a go, but it's a miracle that I'm able to get video out currently! 😂👍
@@IronworkerGaming dang, hope everything is alright
@@attackmanatee02 Ahhh, I'm good...just incredibly busy with work and house projects. I appreciate the concern though! 😁🍻
Thanks!
Wow!! Thank you very much for the Super Thanks! Your support and generosity is truly appreciated! 😁🍻
Hmmm maybe a re-review of Quicksilver Storm due to Lightfall with its catalyst and raw damage? Its currently my highest killing PvE weapon with well over 6,500 kills
I do love Quicksilver Storm! Even though it's insanely strong, I stayed away from rereviewing it simply because it got a lot of "UA-cam attention" over the past few months, and I figured my video would get lost in the crowd. But I do agree, it's a phenomenal weapon! 👍👍
@IronworkerGaming true. What about Verglas Curve? It's getting bug fixes and buffs so that's gonna be good. Same for Wicked Implement.
Can we all agree stasis would REALLY benefit from having another super for every class?
I know im beating a dead horse and all but still. Every subclass should have 2 supers eventually imo.
Stasis warlock super is so… meh especially
Absolutely! I honestly figured that we would have seen another on added for each subclass by this point! 👍👍
Thanks for the video
I have been waiting for this one. But I was hoping you would test Mantle of Battle Harmony with the super mode.
I was honestly saving MoBH with Ager's for a build video, assuming that we would see some Stasis support in the Artifact in Season 22. I was very disheartened to hear that we'd be getting no Stasis Mods yet again. 🤦♂️🍻
@@IronworkerGamingthey just ignoring stasis at this point
@@IronworkerGaming they are just proud of strand
Thx!
You're very welcome! 😁👍
just hit 30k kills on my Ager's, too bad the kill tracker doesn't count every enemy that dies from the blast. I would have easily 100k
I would love to know if the stasis surge mods add damage to the super beam effect or not?
It does indeed! 👍👍
@@IronworkerGaming thx ☺️
You almost make me want to swap to stasis, does Mrs Ironworker appreciate been used as a bullet sponge lol? lastly have you done a review on Prometheus lens?
Ps keep up the good work 👏.
Haha! Mrs IW didn't really enjoy this batch of testing. She doesn't tend to mind if it's only a 5 to 10 minute process, but this one took awhile! 😂 I do have a Prometheus Lens video on the channel. It's over a year old at this point, but the information in there should still be somewhat relevant. 👍🍻 ua-cam.com/video/3mDeRJ3srvY/v-deo.html
@@IronworkerGaming Thanks for the link.
I'm sorry but it's kinda always been this way with weapons? If they make it so you can get all the loot from an expansion without buying it, that's a lot of the reason people would want to buy it going away. This is a completely normal thing and really not worth a rant, I don't think an MMO player would complain about not being able to get loot from an expansion they don't own because that doesn't make sense.
It's been that way for awhile, but not always, and this has been a topic that has irritated me for some time. Just because some things may be accepted as "normal", doesn't mean that they should be. When the battle pass was introduced with Shadowkeep, random drop exotic weapons stopped being added to the general loot pool. Now every exotic is either stuffed in the battle pass or tied to a quest, so there's essentially a price tag placed on each exotic that was introduced post Shadowkeep, while eliminating the excitement of seeing a fresh exotic weapon drop in the wild.
Whether this is ok or not probably boils down to where you see the weapons as "content". I personally do not. I have no problem paying for activates, game modes and experiences, but once the content that these weapons are linked to is over a year old or has their initial acquisitions source removed, I think the requirements to acquire them should be reduced.
I'm a firm believer that if you own the most recent version of the game (i.e. anyone who purchased Lightfall this year), that should retroactively unlock any exotic from the kiosk. While I don't think a free-to-try player should have access to all weapons, a paying customer should. After all we talking a full priced game with increasing expensive major expansions, a seasonal model that is basically a subscriptions service, a fully fleshed out microtransaction store, and to purchase the weapon in game, it still requires a good amount of in game currency.
As someone who is passionate about the weapons of Destiny, I want as many people as possible to be able to enjoy all of these interesting an unique weapons without having the hand forced to purchase old expansions that they may have no interest in. You don't have to agree with me, but that's my perspective, and it's been a issue that has rubbed me the wrong way since Shadowkeep's shift in philosophy. 👍👍
I have a 50k kill count on my Ager's. It has become my favorite exotic weapon. The secret is to not put the catalyst on it to save tons of ammo and not accidently activate it and drain you super.
You're holding yourself back by not putting the catalyst on agers and I have a 67k kill count on mine It would be more but destiny just ain't fun this season.
Haha! I must say that is an interesting philosophy, but if it's working out for you, cheers! 😁🍻
I play using a controller, so I activate the cat too often when opening chests.
@@markmurex6559 I do too but I only rarely press it when I'm doing to much.
@@markmurex6559 Switching off the gun is what I do when I have to press x for something it has helped me out a lot.
agers secpter is bugged and does not benefit from stasis surge mods ... i been telling bungee about it but they would rater forum ban me intsed of fixing it
That is very odd. It certainly doesn't sound like an intentional decision. I'll test it out for myself just to make sure, and try to "forward" the message if I get the same results. 👍👍
Just got done testing it out, and I was seeing a damage boost from the surge mods. 👍👍
@@IronworkerGaming ty for the effort your literaly the only one who took the time to test it ! so i tested stuff on my side to figure my problem ! turns out the overload artifact mod somehow in bungee fashion ... disable or bug out surge dmg bonus for agers septer ( at least for me) . So my infinite thanks since for the whole season i though i was crazy !
@@burningsun6755 No problem at all! I'll have to give it another shot with the Overload mod applied. I tested without it and didn't have an issue, but it's definitely possible that it's causing some issue deep within the spaghetti code of Destiny. 😂🍻
You were rigth, a stasis season was coming. Well, kinda
Shame you decided to jump on the monetization bandwagon, thought you were not the typical drama loving youtuber.
The rant was to remind people to NOT misdirect their harassment at Devs and CMs....which is pretty much the opposite of stirring up drama. Plus I've been harping on content locked weapons for years at this point.
I keep forgetting how great this exotic is 🧊
It really is top-notch with a Stasis subclass! Bungie outdid themselves with this one! 😁👍