It took an hour to get a key to the room? The school custodian, school principal, school secretary, school security officer should all have master keys to every door in the school. Unbelievable incompetence!
People need to stop blaming the cops for not saving the children because I blame the school for not protecting the children by not having the school secure and protected from anyone making entry
@@DaveBailey18 both are reasonable complaints. I'm with you. My main concern is with the school and specifically the teacher that left that door open. But, once the shooter was inside, the police absolutely failed to honor their oath. Another question I have on top of all those concerning the teacher, if they thought the shooting was over, why did they shoot the shooter?
As a science head teacher here in Australia I had the keys on a lanyard around my neck at all times. Nobody told me to do it. There were no rules / laws. It was just plain common sense. Fire breaks out in lab, firey (fire fighter) needs access through locked rooms, as we stand evacuated in car park, ay voila! Here they are. Ditto our Principal and Deputy Principal. And that was 30 years ago! And we have very strict gun laws. The school was however in a major capital city in the centre where several drug cartels operated. Many illegal guns.
@@garyrolen8764 The biggest problem here is lack of security in public places. 10 days earlier it was a supermarket in Buffalo, NY that got shot up and if it wasn't for that security guard who shot at the gunman it probably would had been worse. Did this school have any security guards on campus? Not that I heard of!
Send the Police ? I thought brain dead Joe Biden wanted to DEFUND the police? What are you calling the police for? This town is full of illegals from right across the border , they are Biden fans. Defund the police, the Liberal Democrate Way! Rem?
Little did she know? Dude are you fking dumb? In the call the girl said she can hear police on the other side. So yeah she already knows they are outside. What she meant is, tell them to fking storm into the room.
They interviewed a student who said she saw police outside and that's when she got teary. Her young mind couldn't comprehend why they weren't saving her.
Sadly they thought that all the kids inside the 2 lock classrooms were dead therefore there was no one at risk anymore. I can’t believe that was their thought process because I’m sure some of the victims could of survived their wounds but must of bleed out after 40 minutes of wait time.
@@yudithdm9302 That's what I think happened too. They thought it was exactly like Sandy Hook (it's similar) where even with more immediate medical attention, everybody died. The one thing their tactic did do is prevent him from continuing on to more rooms in the school, which makes this a bit different than what happened in Columbine.
With every new detail it gets worse and worse. This is as irresponsible as the swat team just watching from the outside of Columbine over 20 years ago.
The fact that they “waited for the key to open the door” is unbelievable from 19 officers... 19!!! As in “well it’s not our fault the door is locked so we’re just gonna wait”🙄. I hope their superior is truly regretting this if they gave them orders to keep waiting “for equipment”.
@@3rdDog173 It's a commercial interior fire door - has an electromagnet that holds it open & closed, locked in both positions. I installed them for a living for a while. I'm positive you can kick the door open if it's in the shut position; the door automatically closes if a fire alarm goes off, that's it. It's to prevent the spread of fire inside a structure. You can also cut power to the magnet & the lock doesn't operate.
This is such a crock!!! You mean to tell me they didn't have a battering ram to get in that building??? The perp didn't seem to have a problem getting in!!!!!!!
I read in news, Police thought , suspect already shot all kids and waiting for the police to arrive, so that he can attack police. so police were just waiting... as they didnt hear any active shooting... Police thought , shooting is over and he is waiting for the police
That teacher who had the door open must be feeling all types of guilt. I hope he/she gets the help they’ll need. Also they were NOT waiting on a key. One of the kids who survived said the gunman shot the door to get in. Hard to believe that the door was locked or hard to get into. And since when do police wait on keys.
Yeah I saw that update later on in the day. Still doesn’t negate the fact that she had it open at some point. Not blaming her, just stating that she’ll have a lot of what if thoughts and will need some help.
No no no no no no Teacher she need to go to jail okay the first call was from the teacher she called saying that she see a suspicious truck then she called again and the operator said we do not have no one available they Send the cops 27 minutes so they had 27 minutes to alert the whole school to be on guard and they never and the cops knew that information because the operator let them know knowing all of that they still took 88 minutes to go inside the teacher need to go to jail she doesn’t have any guilt she should go to jail you’ll decide to call yourself so if you’re so concerned why won’t you leave the door open they changing it because it looks very horrible very irresponsible everybody didn’t act accordingly the operator same do we do not have no one available the teacher leaving the door open and tThe cops take an 88 minutes to go inside even though the cops wasn’t in the school she still had 27 minutes to alert everybody she just called again saying why they it doesn’t make any sense to me
@@Bravebeauty22 she only opened it a little to get her phone to call 911 but she closed it after and he just opened it cause the door wasn't locked when she thought it was.
Even if the door was locked he could have shot through the windows and enter the school regardless. Why didn’t the cops went to the windows if the doors were locked boggles me.
WRONG. cops were ready to risk lives going on, didn't you watch the full video or r u 1 of the CRIMINAL teachers who propped that door open ILLEGALLY? Those heavy doors cannot be kicked down by cops, nor criminals which is why they're used: teachers are supposed to use SECOND set of doors to lock kids in, while FIRST set of doors delays attacker... Instead teachers LET the gunman in, giving HIM the power those doors give. SECOND FATAL (CRIMINAL) ERROR WAS ALSO BY SCHOOL STAFF: now they need KEY since u cannot kick it. Took nearly the full hour to give cops the key. Sounds like teachers used these days the investigators needed to investigate & release this to falsely blame the cops to deflect from their own CRIMINAL recklessness.
How can 19 Police Officers wait 40 minutes outside the classrooms without hearing those children & teachers being shot ? The person in charge needs to be fired & charged with dereliction of duty !
Exactly. If 19 armed police officers were waiting outside, considering how much ammo shooter had, it means they heard the gunshot but was scared shitless and just stood there "I aint going in there, you go in"..."No man, ummm... we need backup and umm we havent gotten any order from higher up" as excuse, instead of using common sense and their sense of duty as officers. More truth comes out, more angry this makes me. Bloods are all on their hands.
@@mickeykim3559 well America wants 18 year old men to be able to buy two assault rifles and 1,600 rounds of ammunition in one purchase without raising flags. That's more powerful than what the police normally carry. Teenage men can out power the police and America is OK with that fact.
In this situation, the PARENTS SHOULD BE ALLOWED to rescue their children with their guns or without them. The COPS cannot stop them if the cops are NOT doing their job.
I hate that this is the topic on everything, but your coverage and highlighting timeline from news conference and area based on large map was one of the clearest updates on this situation I’ve seen.
@@john-henryrabb3357 What about shooting and observing through the windows?? They supposedly broke windows in other classrooms to evacuate those students, so why was that approach to get at the shooter not used, ESPECIALLY after the border patrol cops showed up at 12:15 with the shields and other tactical gear?
To K: Imagine the police shooting the gunman with the public parsing, pasting, and parading pictures with spun images and mistimings of *over zealots* just doing their job.
The old saying, "when seconds count, the police are minutes away" needs to be updated. They were RIGHT THERE. For over an hour. How many kids bled out and died because of police inaction?
The blood of those kids is all over the teacher ( still yet unarmed) who propped the door open giving the gunman easy access. All outside doors to a school are supposed to be locked .
@@deborahalbert1148 can you blame her i mean the first shots were a decoy, if you were on the south side of the building you could assume the kids would run out and be safe
@@spacepirate8839 yes I can blame her. All outside doors to a school are to be left closed and locked . Period. People died because of her . Yes I can blame her.
@@deborahalbert1148 I blame the school resource officer that supposed to be there in the first place! Where was he?!? He had one job and totally blew it!
I am a 25 year veteran Police Officer and I have been working in a school for the past 7 years. Every Police Officer in this country has been trained, and trained, and trained again, on how to handle these incidents. I am sorry, but there is no excuse for this. The officers are beyond the point of turning in their badges, they should be prosecuted. Every Police Officer has a "Duty to Act", even if ordered not to, and especially if the order in unlawful, immoral, or unethical. The officers had so many options available to try, drop ceiling, windows, knock down walls, etc. I usually wait to reserve judgement until all of the evidence is in, but I don't see how any of their tactics, or lack of action, can possibly be justified. As far as how to keep this from happening again...after 9/11 we secured plane cockpits and airports. It's not rocket surgery, secure the schools. It isn't hard to do, it just costs money. How much are our children worth? Everyone wants to go at it from the gun control end. After 9/11 we didn't ban planes. Secure the schools, plain and simple. Schools continue to be targets because they are easy targets to inflict enormous loss of life and shock the public. If we secure the schools, they would no longer be easy targets. There is a concept in Law Enforcement that has been around for a very long time called CPTED (Crime Prevention Through Environmental Design) and it works. Construction and technology are the answers to secure our schools. This isn't a gun problem, its and evil people problem.
Well said... BUT... Please stop kidding yourself, It IS a gun problem just as much as security problem. So let's say all our schools are secured to the point of total bullet proof. What... there are NO other places for shooters to go to find people in masses? Churches, malls, concerts, parks, subway stations, the list could go on and on... And the analogy to airplanes and guns is just plain silly. Last time I checked, there are LICENSING requirements to fly a plane.... And my goodness, are you not aware of how much flight training those terrorists had under their belts before hi-jacking those airlines? ?
it horrifies me to think that grown men wearing armor and guns just waited outside in such close proximity to these classrooms knowing terrified children with their lives in danger were helpless in the classroom, sick.
They know that a .223 round is going through any armour they're wearing and don't value the life inside more than theirs and ignore their duties. Time to stop selling war weapons to 18-year-olds, and in general? Or should the Texas governor push forward and pass more laws to have Texas be #1 gun-purchasing state? He attended the NRA rally virtually today.
@@super_hero2 and get donuts and coffee and set up a command post with tables proper name plates, and chairs- just like they practice active shooter drills
If those were windows on the side of the classroom you could have just looked in. Heck there are even these things called binoculars where you wouldn't have to get shot doing it either.
@Alexender Thoriengton if you are going to repeat the same thing on every post could you at least make it a correct statement “the police WERE…not was…were cowards.
Sadly, some of those connecting room arrangements have no way to lock the door between the rooms. This has been a teacher concern every year we get the training to lock our doors right away. The room connecting mine had two hall doors and adjoined to two other classrooms through doors that did not lock.
That was true in my elem building when I was a student. My building where I taught had “open concept:” picture a half circle with 6 full size classrooms, a teacher work area, and 3 small instructional spaces are on the straight edge of the half circle, with a set of double doors to the hallway on each end. When they added two pods onto the building, there’s only one set of pod doors to the hall, but they DO NOT Lock (something about the doors having to swing different directions for fire safety). The new pods are the farthest away from the office and also have doors to outside. Teachers have been concerned about lock downs in those pods ever since they were built, 15 years ago.
From what people here are saying the locks were shot out by the shooter but the cops had to wait for a key. All the information is a mess so it might take a year just to find out the facts. The only thing I've seen is the cops had rifles keeping back the parents. If the shooter also had a rifle well then the only difference was the will to do something.
@@jayeisenhardt1337 Yeah, bad optics on that scenario with the parents. I saw in one report that he shot the teacher through the window in the door and that he shot out the lock. It might have been that the cops had to get the key for one of the other room that adjoined the one he shot up.
Well if was locked he would have just waited for an hour and seventeen minutes till the teacher brought him a key ,right? That's what people who call themselves swat did .
One of the trauma surgeons interviewed said that some of the kids could have survived if they had gotten to the hospital within the golden hour. So some of the kids bled out in that coward hour. & law enforcement & REMEMBER THE COWARD HOUR
I saw the clip. She was talking more about "what ifs". She didn't examine the bodies, so it's more of a IF they had gotten to them in the golden hour WOULD they have survived. It's possible and we'll never know. The reality is the amount of initial shooting is similar to Sandy Hook where victim access to care was much sooner and you still lost a similar number of people. It is very possible children bled out in the hour, but it is also possible that the wounds were too traumatic to save no matter when you got to them.
Exactly, some students killed had horrific injuries. One boy had his body blasted away and could only be identified by his shirt logo and foot scar. They couldn’t show his body to his parents for I.D. due to the gory flesh traumas and his face too blown away. The carnage was horrific caused by the high powered assault rifle the evil shooter used
When did the police need a key to enter a house, or a building? They’re breaking down doors in any houses they want to enter; they’re breaking down doors in any buildings they want to enter, so why did they wait to get a key to enter this classroom when they knew there were elementary schools kids behind that door…with a gunman?
This was an absolute failure in planning, training and response. Since when does police need a key? Why did they not try to talk him down? The decision maker to not immediately engage should promptly be fired.
There were 19 of them inside. They just didn't enter the classroom until they got a key. Something like an hour elapsed. 35 mins elapsed after border patrol arrived with tactical gear.
Let’s not just blame the police. They have a role here but let’s be clear, the school should have been locked and no one at 18 who can’t rent a car, should be able to buy a gun especially an ar15.
@@3071-f6i school did a garbage job with its lockdown protocol. As soon as bullets flew into windows, lockdown should have been activated and all doors locked. Where is the school principal? I want to hear the administration's side of the story. What did they do?
The injured children were losing their blood 🩸 every second while those police officers were waiting for an hour outside doing nothing, except arguing with the parents!! Bloods are on those cops‘ hands!! The teachers gave their lives to protect the children are true heroes 🦸♀️!
That teacher broke the law. Texas law requires school doors to be locked. That chief of police is a liar. Kids were calling. Then they stop parents from going in. No excuse at all. Why would the cops not disobey and go in
I was just about to say I feel for that teacher that left that back door open her guilt must be eating her alive by now. It’s also safe to say that the gun man is a sick vile human so he would have found a way to get in somehow esp since he was able to escape the resource officer. Then I don’t understand like when these kids were calling like doesn’t dispatch send in more backup like asap? No one thought to break open the door or window and confront the freak?? I’ve been following up on this story for days and there’s so much flaws in this that it’s disgusting and makes my blood boil. Worst of it all 21 innocent souls lost. May they rest in eternal peace 😭🙏
Like to know why that door was propped open to begin with? Deadly mistake. Tons of law suits coming, sadly won't bring back those innocent kids and teachers. Nobody is holding me back from entering to get my kids. 1 mother that was restrained once and let go eventually found a way in and got her kids from that school from what I read.
They were clearly scared and never seen anything like that before. I mean I get it. Some people are just not built for these events. It just sucks that all 19 of the cops in that hallway was not able to find it in them to rush in and save those poor kids. Time to find another profession. Maybe a waiter at a restaurant? They got the experience for it…
If these children and families did not come out to say what they experienced, we would have not heard how they failed to react. Initially, they said the responding officers were heroes and they stormed in and took out the shooter. Now we know they waited until they thought the children were dead and they're still not telling the truth.
They did storm in, but the doors are strong security doors, teachers are supposed to keep the shooter OUT using those doors, instead a teacher violated policy and let the shooter into the FIRST door. Then the school staff (not the cops) failed AGAIN, by taking an hour to get the key. The cops couldn't bash the door down, and let medics in because school staff incompetent on TWO compounding errors
yes, RIGHT !!! At least the kids weren't afraid to disobey the Chief of Police and called other law enforcement from Border police, who arrived and DISOBEYED the Sheriff, who is mentally ill !!! I am sure the calls to parents had alot to do with the BORDER POLICE showing up !!!
@@john-henryrabb3357 some teachers are far left looneys trying to teach 4th graders that there are 50+ genders. Do you think there are no anti2A teachers? The looney left has shown time and again they believe the ends justify the means. You think they wouldn't sacrifice some innocence for their goals? I'm not saying this is what happened. Most likely they were just lax and dumb with security. But I do hope investigators are willing to look deeper into the faculty for culpability.
Infuriating that a teacher would prop open a door. I have been teaching for 19 years, and this is something that has been emphasized at every school I've worked at. Classroom doors should be closed and locked while students are present as well. Locked doors won't prevent every tragedy, but they likely would have here. You do NOT prop open a door.
The police and swat for deciding to wait outside. Look how many minutes they decided to stay outside the school, then outside in the hallway, and waited for the key. There are a lot of lies being told here. Slowly, but surely the truth is beginning to come out.
In a house raid, keys are never an issue for cops. The cops just force the door open one way or the other. Same should have happened in this situation.
Much clearer than the police version thank you. Wow windows on the other side of the rooms 112/113 and still no police intervention? Unbelievable failure of the police response, poor children, I’m crying every time I find more details of this tragedy.Our thoughts and prayers are with the family and friends of Uvalde
I’m curious what you expected them to do at the windows? Walk up to it and take a .223 round to the face? One of the teachers who was inside the classroom said the shooter had barricaded himself behind their desk. The news reporter said why didn’t they just shoot through the windows of classroom 111 and 112 at the shooter? Uhhhhhh probably because it’s two classrooms full of children… you can’t just start blindly unloading rounds into the windows hoping you only hit the shooter 🤣
I can't believe that all of those officers together couldn't break down one of those doors, or smash a window, in order to get inside one of those rooms! 🥺 Ridiculous
They’re not like the doors in your house, they’re security doors in steel and concrete frames. No amount of people could just break it down without equipment.
Yes sir, I am a volunteer firefighter so I do know a little about fire science and fire training, I just don't understand why they wouldn't run in there.. sad
I didn't sense no urgency from the videos of police standing in the parking lots. They were standing like they were doing security detail at a concert or public event.
But the police have no problem pulling people over for going 10 over the speed limit or towing them for parking in a no park zone for 15 minutes. Gotta love that
More inconsistencies! Rifle gunshots are loud. Why would a teacher prop up an outside door after hearing gunshots outside the school? How is the School District Police superintendant the first on scene and becomes on scene commander? If not on scene why is he making the calls?
He didn’t mention that one of the little girls that called 911 was heard by the gunman and killed. Also didn’t mention how the police asked the students in 111/112 to yell “HELP” if they needed help and when one student did that, the gunman turned around and pumped bullets into their body.
" the police asked the students in 111/112 to yell “HELP” if they needed help and when one student did that, the gunman turned around and pumped bullets into their body" This is hearsay your honor
@@midnight4023 a boy in that classroom told in an interview that this is what happened. One girl yelled help following the cops instructions and the shooter found her hiding place and shot her.
@@midnight4023 the students who survived were the ones who said it. I'm more trusting of children than any of the politicians. Their account isn't constantly changing.
When they waited in the hallway, and more killing occurred, as mentioned in the phone calls of the students inside, they should have heard the gun shots I assume? So how can they think the situation no longer has an active shooter?
Great to know someone else is seeing through the lies. This story keeps breaking my heart everytime I hear more disgusting things like this. They should just come out and say they wanted to wait until all the occupants were dead.
Let me tell you that they did not respond on time because they were all Mexixan american kids. They would have been all white they would have responded in 2 minutes
one of the kids that hide under that cloth table said a cop asked if anyone needed help and one girl yelled out help and was shot and killed. the kids that kept calling 911 were killed. all while the cops were outside.
23 police did nothing for an hour and 17 minutes? An off duty border patrol agent who was getting a haircut nearby borrowed the barbers shotgun and was able to get in.. This is not about our children's safety.
@@JC-li8kk Hopefully you will conclude believing is not the same as knowing. You know that you are being lied to,.......the results were planned. Incompetence card has been seriously worn thin.
@@JC-li8kk: JC: My plaque to you. From your lips ... Classic comment culled and curated. Calligraphed and cuneiform in clay. Correctly composed and created. Congruent with my cogitation. Certainly, communicable and commended.
The techs who propped the door, then took nearly the full hour to give key to the cops are CRIMINALLY responsible, yes. Cops are shown in video as ready to go in & risk life, but those are security doors which cannot be kicked in, so needed KEY.
What in the heck did they do in the hallway during that span?? Why not snipe him from the external window?! It makes no sense. It’s like every man on the scene, to a t, lost their ever loving minds!
Several years ago a school shooting occurred at the high school I attended. Except this shooting was done by the school resource officer (also a local police officer) who shot and killed a deranged man who entered the school, following a student who was late getting there. The school immediately went into lock down and the resource officer confronted the man who was armed with guns and intent on using them, in the hallway. She tried at first to diffuse the situation but when she was unable to do so she shot & killed him before he could endanger anyone else. The school was Sullivan Central High School in Blountville, TN. The officers name is Carolyn Gudger, and in my hometown she is a hero. She is the perfect example of what a school resource officer should be. A courageous woman who did her job, putting her life on the line for the students/faculty she was hired to protect. I was very disappointed that there was not a lot of media attention surrounding this incident, except for locally of course. I just really wanted people to see what a difference having a well trained, courageous police officer who takes their promise to protect and serve seriously on campus can make in these situations
Finally, this is a clear concise timeline of events. At some point it was reported that a mom climbed a fence and got her children out. Also another cop went in to rescue HIS kids. When this occurred and how they ( the mother and the cop) actually entered the building is not known for sure. I can see any parent would risk their life to save their kids. Maybe the police should have followed the mother 's lead and entered one way or another. The mother who took charge of the situation and got her kids out is a true hero.
The School should be re- named after the border patrol officer and the Track field should be re-named after the lady that hurdled the fence and ran to rescue her children as well as other students. True America. Hero!!
Take away that SRO cruiser sp they can stay in campus. A golf cart will work. Saves money on not having to idle it 8 hours a day for ac and music purposes on a cruiser.
They had all that equipment and an armored vehicle, and they didn't use it. All that, and they were held up by not having a key? Every custodian has the keys. Couldn't they have driven that armored vehicle up to that window? A hundred cops, milling around outside. What's the point!? Cops doing nothing but harassing the parents, of course.
They didn’t have those things immediately. They waited for the tactical gear and armored car to show up. At least for the tactical gear, why aren’t they carried in their trunk?
Here’s a question, why didn’t the school go into immediate lockdown? The shooter had shot at the building. Wouldn’t that prompt a lockdown drill that’s not fake? What excuse does the school have for that?
The school did go into lockdown but apparently he had already gained entry into the hallway . One of the news stations interviewed one of the students who was in Room 112 or 113 class and he said his teacher headed to lock her classroom door when the shooter shot the glass door window and backed the teacher into the classroom and killed her .
@@melindago6576 I don’t understand why this isn’t being said in these reports. There’s still a lot of speculation which means these news stations haven’t done their due diligence. I’m finding out more in the comments than from the news. But it’s hard to know which comments are reliable, even though the news hasn’t been completely reliable either.
They did go into immediate lockdown, a little boy who was interviewed said the teachers got an alert but by the time the teacher was running to lock her classroom door the shooter was already at the door, backed her in and shot her. The 2 classrooms had an adjoining door so he was able to get into that one too.
He forgot that there were also shots fired at 12:21, pretty much blowing out of the water any notion that it was not an active shooter situation still. Unbelievable.
So many let these children down. The parents of the shooter, the 911 operators, the school superintendent, the security guard for the school, the teacher who opened the door where the shooter walked in, whoever was in charge of announcing a lock down so the teachers could have locked the doors, the commander in charge who said it was a barricade situation when it clearly wasn’t, and finally some of the officers who chose to not go into the building when shots could still be heard from outside.
The parents also let their kids down. They assumed nothing like this would happen to them. Not one single parent tested the school's physical security.
@@0xsergy: Dear Oxsynergy: The senators are not allowing this to happen. AOC is taking away the positive psychology of the police. She wants defunding -- *we should be defending.* Anti-cop is just what the BLM and AOC want. *Back the blue.* Don't let our heroes get it both ways. Please; We need to win. Sort out the bad people and pierce *their* perineum, not the police.
Insane that entry points were left unlocked & even propped open. That’s problem number one. Problem number two is a lack of courage & leadership, period.
Ceiling Tiles. Why didn't they go in through the ceiling tiles...remove ceiling tiles from either adjacent rooms 110 or from the restroom side? Never heard of a SWAT team or cops waiting around for a key? Ceiling, windows, even use the school intercom system or a bull horn to talk to shooter....distract him to one room. The kids calling 911 are the REAL heroes.
@@jennifermiller4 Yes I agree! Also more cameras for school perimeter. Possibly being monitored by private security firm. Or doors that requires a key to lock door from inside.
Why was the door propped open? Where was the teacher who opened the door? How could no kids be at risk when he has two classrooms full of children locked with himself inside with two guns and he already was using the guns shooting into the school from outside.
@@brandonkragnes4915 I don’t know the design of the school door locks, but I would bet that you can shoot a door lock open with 2-6 rounds, if you really needed to get through a regular door. I’m talking about the place where the bolt goes in the plate.
@@Sergei__v the first rule of firing a weapon is identifying your target and whats behind it. You dont just fire at a doorknob or through a closed door...
@@robertyoung9589 There’s a chance it was one of the teachers that were killed since it was so close to their room. It could have also had something to do with parents going into the building for the awards ceremonies. Usually you see door propping when kids are at recess because teachers don’t want to keep having to unlock it to let them in to get water or use the restroom. Or the door is broken & the badges don’t work to open it. Or a teacher lost/forgot their badge. We don’t know. They could have been propping that door open all year.
@@JC-li8kk Maybe so…unfortunately it hasn’t been addressed. Where the heck was the principal..and all the other staff? Hiding? Each time they prop open a door…against rules…..they are leaving the door “wide open”…for an intruder to enter that building. So many things gone wrong….unfortunately these adorable …innocent… brave …smart… kids paid the price……for the stupidity of adults.
Those babies were calling 911 pleading for help. 💔 They did what they were taught to do...when there is an emergency, call 911 for help...the "help" came, but for 91 minutes did very little to save them.
It has now been determined that that back door DID close when the teacher went back in . The door failed to automatically lock like it was designed to do.
Really??? They said they couldn't get through the door? Couldn't help those children because they didn't have the equipment??!!! Are you effin kidding me??!! Those big men with guns couldn't get through a classroom door??!! Disgusting cowards!!
This time line should start at the grandmother's house, weren't the cops notified about that shooting , dispatcher should've called school to lock down, shooter in the area lock down immediately.
They decided to WAIT OUTSIDE AND LEAVE THE KIDS ALONE WITH THAT PSYCHO!!! In what world does this make any sense??? What kind of police officers we have??? Worse than a third world country at this point
I keep saying this over and over but the teacher who propped the door open needs to be held accountable! I worked at an elementary for 9 years and I seen several colleagues do this to have quick access to the staff parking lot when returning from lunch or breaks. Although it makes it easy for staff that laziness will end up being a deadly threat for everyone else on campus.
It wasn't laziness, she went to get her phone when she heard him wreck his truck in the ditch near the school. She shouldn't have propped it open but it wasn't just out of laziness.
I read that the teacher saw the shooter crash n shoot at some people from the mortuary across the street ...called the cops..then saw the shooter getting closer toward the school..but still never closed the door?? According to that story she had multiple Chances to close the door..don't make sense ..also why didn't the teacher lock the Classrooms..too..he was shooting thew windows before he got in ...they can't lock the door..but he was able to lock him self in with the kids ...weird
It’s irresponsible reporting not to state why the door was propped open by the teacher. This event was the convergence of many small events that on a normal school day would have unremarkable if taken separately.
This is awful on many accounts. Seems no one was prepared for this. Teacher propping door open, no resource officer present, school not going into lockdown fast enough for teachers to lock their classrooms, waiting an hour for a key?? Bad communication, little urgency - this is what being comfortable looks like. They thought they were already on summer vacation. I’ll bet every school in America kept their doors closed & locked the very next day. It shouldn’t take something like this to follow basic safety procedures.
In my community, one resource officer is responsible for multiple schools. Just like many other school staff: nurses, psychologists, social workers, OT, PT, and SLPs.
@@Flipper86 In that case, they miss the point of resource officer, which is to have a constant presence on campus. Here is where the community needs a vetted security officer in every school, with the commissioned officer for overall coverage, or to back up the first city officer to arrive.
They didn't even need a key bc the suspect couldn't lock the doors behind him after going in bc the doors only lock from the outside, with a key, and he didn't have a key
here is part ofnarticle: Before going out to lunch, Evalynn stopped in her classroom to get her school supplies around 11:05, Mia said. “We ended up talking to the teacher, Mr. Reyes and he let us know that the door would be unlocked for her to get her backpack. He said we were more than welcome to walk back there to grab Evalynn’s belongings, sign her out and leave,”
When I heard the story that same day about the school shooting and then I saw at night that the cop wasn’t answering any questions, I knew that there was a cowardly covered up was happening.
I’m confused to why a teacher left the door open? As teachers, we know better than that. We can’t even leave the doors to our classrooms open and unlocked. What was she propping the door open for?
Teachers shouldn't even have a Cell phone with them. They're working. I cant have my cell phone with me at work. But teachers think they have to be available to everyone. There's phones in every room to contact the office not do personal calls and or text messages. Also not fair listening to music with your ear buds. Fire them all for using cell phones.
@@dioniciobenavidez5386 I am a teacher and I carry my cell phone with me at ALL times. The reason is that schools have become targets for mass shootings. The phones in the classrooms do not have the capability to dial 911. And even if they did, what if there were an emergency across the room, and I could not access the phone? If there is a school incident, I have my cell phone on me at all times for my own protection, and for the protection of the students that I am responsible for.
@@jennifermiller4 how many times have you used that cell phone to pay your bills on school time? To call friends and family and the best one of them all Texting? You lady are being paid to use your cell phone while at work and being paid. Where I work i cant use my cell phone, but teachers can for any reason.
Exactly I been wondering this since I heard it cause if you hear shots outside you are safer inside . She should have ran to the office to make sure they locked the school down
Jesus, you people are so clueless. The teacher heard the truck crash outside. She opened the door and left the door open so she can get back inside while she went to see what happened. She saw the accident and walked back to the classroom to call 911. She didn’t know that the driver was the shooter.
It took an hour to get a key to the room? The school custodian, school principal, school secretary, school security officer should all have master keys to every door in the school. Unbelievable incompetence!
Somebody is lying...
People need to stop blaming the cops for not saving the children because I blame the school for not protecting the children by not having the school secure and protected from anyone making entry
@@DaveBailey18 both are reasonable complaints. I'm with you. My main concern is with the school and specifically the teacher that left that door open. But, once the shooter was inside, the police absolutely failed to honor their oath.
Another question I have on top of all those concerning the teacher, if they thought the shooting was over, why did they shoot the shooter?
As a science head teacher here in Australia I had the keys on a lanyard around my neck at all times. Nobody told me to do it. There were no rules / laws. It was just plain common sense. Fire breaks out in lab, firey (fire fighter) needs access through locked rooms, as we stand evacuated in car park, ay voila! Here they are. Ditto our Principal and Deputy Principal. And that was 30 years ago! And we have very strict gun laws. The school was however in a major capital city in the centre where several drug cartels operated. Many illegal guns.
@@garyrolen8764 The biggest problem here is lack of security in public places. 10 days earlier it was a supermarket in Buffalo, NY that got shot up and if it wasn't for that security guard who shot at the gunman it probably would had been worse. Did this school have any security guards on campus? Not that I heard of!
"Please send the police". Little did she know, they were right outside the door. So sad. I feel for everyone involved.
At some point they knew the police where outside.
Send the Police ? I thought brain dead Joe Biden wanted to DEFUND the police? What are you calling the police for? This town is full of illegals from right across the border , they are Biden fans. Defund the police, the Liberal Democrate Way! Rem?
Little did she know? Dude are you fking dumb? In the call the girl said she can hear police on the other side. So yeah she already knows they are outside. What she meant is, tell them to fking storm into the room.
Now we know its is very different in the movies than in real life. No White
Popo was willing to die for the hispanic children, period!
They interviewed a student who said she saw police outside and that's when she got teary. Her young mind couldn't comprehend why they weren't saving her.
I've seen more sense of urgency executing a no knock warrant on the wrong location than this situation. This is atrocious.
very well said
Yep.
Ironiclly Those are planned days in advanced. Can't really plan for this.
What you said!!!
@@isyourshitfixed hope you don’t mean that you can’t blame them for acting more swiftly? truly hope i’m not taking this out of context.
No kids at risk? How could you possibly know that if you guys didn’t even run inside?.?? !!
Great question
They did not hear any gun shot or scream, and I have to believe that.
@@sarahjee100 no, cowards
I don't believe that...The principle would of known.
They had 48min to go peek in the window
How can you say "no kids were at risk" when there's a gunman at an elementary school, in a classroom with children???
Sadly they thought that all the kids inside the 2 lock classrooms were dead therefore there was no one at risk anymore. I can’t believe that was their thought process because I’m sure some of the victims could of survived their wounds but must of bleed out after 40 minutes of wait time.
@Diana Moore So it's poor communication between 911 and the police.
@@yudithdm9302 That's what I think happened too. They thought it was exactly like Sandy Hook (it's similar) where even with more immediate medical attention, everybody died. The one thing their tactic did do is prevent him from continuing on to more rooms in the school, which makes this a bit different than what happened in Columbine.
@@lisadiconti wow you're mind is willing to think anything, literally anything, before you'll just admit those cops are cowards. Wow.
The person who made the decision that the scene was not an active shooter scene should be held accountable and do prison time !!!
Made a grave mistake and should get fired but going to jail for an error
@@socalfaithfuls4020 nope nurses go to jail for stuff so can cops
@@socalfaithfuls4020 a error that got innocent people killed
But how can they even say that when they could clearly hear shots and screaming themselves? That makes no sense to me
we're all the police deff
With every new detail it gets worse and worse. This is as irresponsible as the swat team just watching from the outside of Columbine over 20 years ago.
This is why police need to be defunded
Your right. They completely let history repeat itself.
Yep, dropped the ball entirely. Nothing political.
@@Pcarnevaaa you do realize it's a small town with small funding so more funding would actually be helpful.
@@Pcarnevaaa that county gets 40% of the tax money and this is what happens with it.
The fact that they “waited for the key to open the door” is unbelievable from 19 officers... 19!!! As in “well it’s not our fault the door is locked so we’re just gonna wait”🙄. I hope their superior is truly regretting this if they gave them orders to keep waiting “for equipment”.
funny how they wait for keys to open a door, but would knock a door off the hinges on a warrant..
@@3rdDog173 It's a commercial interior fire door - has an electromagnet that holds it open & closed, locked in both positions. I installed them for a living for a while. I'm positive you can kick the door open if it's in the shut position; the door automatically closes if a fire alarm goes off, that's it. It's to prevent the spread of fire inside a structure. You can also cut power to the magnet & the lock doesn't operate.
@@treehuggerdeluxe5598 Taking 1hr 20min to get the key when kids are getting killed is insane.
This is such a crock!!! You mean to tell me they didn't have a battering ram to get in that building??? The perp didn't seem to have a problem getting in!!!!!!!
I read in news, Police thought , suspect already shot all kids and waiting for the police to arrive, so that he can attack police.
so police were just waiting... as they didnt hear any active shooting...
Police thought , shooting is over and he is waiting for the police
That teacher who had the door open must be feeling all types of guilt. I hope he/she gets the help they’ll need.
Also they were NOT waiting on a key. One of the kids who survived said the gunman shot the door to get in. Hard to believe that the door was locked or hard to get into. And since when do police wait on keys.
Yeah I saw that update later on in the day. Still doesn’t negate the fact that she had it open at some point. Not blaming her, just stating that she’ll have a lot of what if thoughts and will need some help.
No no no no no no Teacher she need to go to jail okay the first call was from the teacher she called saying that she see a suspicious truck then she called again and the operator said we do not have no one available they Send the cops 27 minutes so they had 27 minutes to alert the whole school to be on guard and they never and the cops knew that information because the operator let them know knowing all of that they still took 88 minutes to go inside the teacher need to go to jail she doesn’t have any guilt she should go to jail you’ll decide to call yourself so if you’re so concerned why won’t you leave the door open they changing it because it looks very horrible very irresponsible everybody didn’t act accordingly the operator same do we do not have no one available the teacher leaving the door open and tThe cops take an 88 minutes to go inside even though the cops wasn’t in the school she still had 27 minutes to alert everybody she just called again saying why they it doesn’t make any sense to me
@@Bravebeauty22 she only opened it a little to get her phone to call 911 but she closed it after and he just opened it cause the door wasn't locked when she thought it was.
Even if the door was locked he could have shot through the windows and enter the school regardless. Why didn’t the cops went to the windows if the doors were locked boggles me.
Waiting for a key.
They decided, as cops with guns and armor, to just let the kids keep handling it. Disgusting
I agree
Inside job
Ry...they admitted it themselves!!
@Alexender Thoriengton you’ve said that in every single post. We get it
WRONG. cops were ready to risk lives going on, didn't you watch the full video or r u 1 of the CRIMINAL teachers who propped that door open ILLEGALLY? Those heavy doors cannot be kicked down by cops, nor criminals which is why they're used: teachers are supposed to use SECOND set of doors to lock kids in, while FIRST set of doors delays attacker... Instead teachers LET the gunman in, giving HIM the power those doors give.
SECOND FATAL (CRIMINAL) ERROR WAS ALSO BY SCHOOL STAFF: now they need KEY since u cannot kick it. Took nearly the full hour to give cops the key. Sounds like teachers used these days the investigators needed to investigate & release this to falsely blame the cops to deflect from their own CRIMINAL recklessness.
How can 19 Police Officers wait 40 minutes outside the classrooms without hearing those children & teachers being shot ? The person in charge needs to be fired & charged with dereliction of duty !
Exactly. If 19 armed police officers were waiting outside, considering how much ammo shooter had, it means they heard the gunshot but was scared shitless and just stood there "I aint going in there, you go in"..."No man, ummm... we need backup and umm we havent gotten any order from higher up" as excuse, instead of using common sense and their sense of duty as officers. More truth comes out, more angry this makes me. Bloods are all on their hands.
Police Chief Pete Arredondo
@@mickeykim3559 well America wants 18 year old men to be able to buy two assault rifles and 1,600 rounds of ammunition in one purchase without raising flags. That's more powerful than what the police normally carry. Teenage men can out power the police and America is OK with that fact.
Inside job
alan...they need to do TIME!
In this situation, the PARENTS SHOULD BE ALLOWED to rescue their children with their guns or without them. The COPS cannot stop them if the cops are NOT doing their job.
I hate that this is the topic on everything, but your coverage and highlighting timeline from news conference and area based on large map was one of the clearest updates on this situation I’ve seen.
@Alexender Thoriengton they saved their own kids but they didn't save the others
Agreed!
@@john-henryrabb3357 What about shooting and observing through the windows?? They supposedly broke windows in other classrooms to evacuate those students, so why was that approach to get at the shooter not used, ESPECIALLY after the border patrol cops showed up at 12:15 with the shields and other tactical gear?
YOU HAVE TO BE KIDDING ME!! None of that added up or made sense!!
@Alexender Thoriengton 😊😊😊😊😊😊😊😊😊😊😊😊😊😊😊😊😊😊😊😊😊😊😊😊😊l
Poor little girl was begging for her life and her classmates only to be brutally murdered as police stood around. So incredibly terrifying and sad.
They have a military armored vehicle why didn't they breach!
@@jonlamontagne they did not.
To K: Imagine the police shooting the gunman with the public parsing, pasting, and parading pictures with spun images and mistimings of *over zealots* just doing their job.
@@luby305THEY SHOWED IT!!!
@@jonlamontagne its a steel and concrete door. it cant be breached easily. its made to keep attackers out if they kept their door closed.
The old saying, "when seconds count, the police are minutes away" needs to be updated. They were RIGHT THERE. For over an hour. How many kids bled out and died because of police inaction?
The blood of those kids are on ALL the cops who stood for over an hour an did Nothing. You all should hand in your badges. Shame on you all.
The blood of those kids is all over the teacher ( still yet unarmed) who propped the door open giving the gunman easy access. All outside doors to a school are supposed to be locked .
@@deborahalbert1148 can you blame her i mean the first shots were a decoy, if you were on the south side of the building you could assume the kids would run out and be safe
@@spacepirate8839 yes I can blame her. All outside doors to a school are to be left closed and locked .
Period.
People died because of her .
Yes I can blame her.
@@deborahalbert1148 I blame the school resource officer that supposed to be there in the first place! Where was he?!? He had one job and totally blew it!
@@hydrobuu I agree 💯. The school resource officer totally failed to do his job too.
They both failed those children, big time.
They let children die. This is the cops fault. This is so sad.
The teacher breaking security protocols by propping a door is even more guilty. And how it takes an hour to give the cops a key?
its not their fault they re risking lives out there what about you?
The order to stand down prob came from someone over the chiefs head. To follow those orders is cowardice defined
You re funny
@@rayray9913 me?
I am a 25 year veteran Police Officer and I have been working in a school for the past 7 years. Every Police Officer in this country has been trained, and trained, and trained again, on how to handle these incidents. I am sorry, but there is no excuse for this. The officers are beyond the point of turning in their badges, they should be prosecuted. Every Police Officer has a "Duty to Act", even if ordered not to, and especially if the order in unlawful, immoral, or unethical. The officers had so many options available to try, drop ceiling, windows, knock down walls, etc. I usually wait to reserve judgement until all of the evidence is in, but I don't see how any of their tactics, or lack of action, can possibly be justified.
As far as how to keep this from happening again...after 9/11 we secured plane cockpits and airports. It's not rocket surgery, secure the schools. It isn't hard to do, it just costs money. How much are our children worth? Everyone wants to go at it from the gun control end. After 9/11 we didn't ban planes. Secure the schools, plain and simple. Schools continue to be targets because they are easy targets to inflict enormous loss of life and shock the public. If we secure the schools, they would no longer be easy targets. There is a concept in Law Enforcement that has been around for a very long time called CPTED (Crime Prevention Through Environmental Design) and it works. Construction and technology are the answers to secure our schools.
This isn't a gun problem, its and evil people problem.
Could not have said it better myself.
@Theo Saar
🎯 Perfectly said!
Nailed it
100% agree! There is NO excuse!
Well said... BUT... Please stop kidding yourself, It IS a gun problem just as much as security problem. So let's say all our schools are secured to the point of total bullet proof. What... there are NO other places for shooters to go to find people in masses? Churches, malls, concerts, parks, subway stations, the list could go on and on... And the analogy to airplanes and guns is just plain silly. Last time I checked, there are LICENSING requirements to fly a plane.... And my goodness, are you not aware of how much flight training those terrorists had under their belts before hi-jacking those airlines? ?
it horrifies me to think that grown men wearing armor and guns just waited outside in such close proximity to these classrooms knowing terrified children with their lives in danger were helpless in the classroom, sick.
They know that a .223 round is going through any armour they're wearing and don't value the life inside more than theirs and ignore their duties.
Time to stop selling war weapons to 18-year-olds, and in general? Or should the Texas governor push forward and pass more laws to have Texas be #1 gun-purchasing state? He attended the NRA rally virtually today.
Why aren’t we asking why it took an hour to get a key to the classrooms? I mean there’s not much they can do if they can’t even get in.
@@fingolfin9086 So they can have an excuse and wait for the SWAT.
@@super_hero2 and get donuts and coffee and set up a command post with tables proper name plates, and chairs- just like they practice active shooter drills
@@fingolfin9086 there were multiple men, i'm sure they could have found a way to break the door down.
So the police thought it was a barricade situation at that point… it doesn’t add up because they would’ve been able to hear bullets and screams.
If those were windows on the side of the classroom you could have just looked in. Heck there are even these things called binoculars where you wouldn't have to get shot doing it either.
Exactly
@Alexender Thoriengton dude you sound like an ignorant robot. 🤣
@Alexender Thoriengton if you are going to repeat the same thing on every post could you at least make it a correct statement “the police WERE…not was…were cowards.
He wasn't shooting for the entire hour. He could have killed everyone those two classrooms in 5 minutes.
Sadly, some of those connecting room arrangements have no way to lock the door between the rooms. This has been a teacher concern every year we get the training to lock our doors right away. The room connecting mine had two hall doors and adjoined to two other classrooms through doors that did not lock.
That was true in my elem building when I was a student. My building where I taught had “open concept:” picture a half circle with 6 full size classrooms, a teacher work area, and 3 small instructional spaces are on the straight edge of the half circle, with a set of double doors to the hallway on each end. When they added two pods onto the building, there’s only one set of pod doors to the hall, but they DO NOT Lock (something about the doors having to swing different directions for fire safety). The new pods are the farthest away from the office and also have doors to outside. Teachers have been concerned about lock downs in those pods ever since they were built, 15 years ago.
From what people here are saying the locks were shot out by the shooter but the cops had to wait for a key. All the information is a mess so it might take a year just to find out the facts. The only thing I've seen is the cops had rifles keeping back the parents. If the shooter also had a rifle well then the only difference was the will to do something.
@@jayeisenhardt1337 Yeah, bad optics on that scenario with the parents. I saw in one report that he shot the teacher through the window in the door and that he shot out the lock. It might have been that the cops had to get the key for one of the other room that adjoined the one he shot up.
@@jayeisenhardt1337 I think we’re talking about different doors and locks. If the gunman shot out the locks, why would a key be needed?
Well if was locked he would have just waited for an hour and seventeen minutes till the teacher brought him a key ,right? That's what people who call themselves swat did .
One of the trauma surgeons interviewed said that
some of the kids could have survived if they had
gotten to the hospital within the golden hour. So
some of the kids bled out in that coward hour. &
law enforcement & REMEMBER THE COWARD
HOUR
Oh no 🙏🏻
I saw the clip. She was talking more about "what ifs". She didn't examine the bodies, so it's more of a IF they had gotten to them in the golden hour WOULD they have survived. It's possible and we'll never know. The reality is the amount of initial shooting is similar to Sandy Hook where victim access to care was much sooner and you still lost a similar number of people. It is very possible children bled out in the hour, but it is also possible that the wounds were too traumatic to save no matter when you got to them.
Exactly, some students killed had horrific injuries. One boy had his body blasted away and could only be identified by his shirt logo and foot scar. They couldn’t show his body to his parents for I.D. due to the gory flesh traumas and his face too blown away. The carnage was horrific caused by the high powered assault rifle the evil shooter used
When did the police need a key to enter a house, or a building? They’re breaking down doors in any houses they want to enter; they’re breaking down doors in any buildings they want to enter, so why did they wait to get a key to enter this classroom when they knew there were elementary schools kids behind that door…with a gunman?
Yes. Agreed.
You do realize a classroom door is built so it cant be broken down and can only be opened with a key.
@@Comfortedbyfiction There were outer windows.
@@estherlewis7458 where the blinds open because if not then they couldnt see in
@@Comfortedbyfiction I don't know. He was hiding in a closet.
This was an absolute failure in planning, training and response.
Since when does police need a key?
Why did they not try to talk him down?
The decision maker to not immediately engage should promptly be fired.
This sounds like a Titanic event. School District Chief probably didn't want to damage property. Who knows?
Here comes the experts…
WHY THE HECK THEY CHOOSE BEING A POLICE OFFICER AS A CAREER????
WALKING AROUND WITH GUNS JUST TO LOOK TUFF???
If they can't take the heat..... get out of the kitchen.
@@elproffesor357 exactly
Look tough and hand out unnecessary tickets
A bunch of wusses..
This is a classic case of “I’d rather ask for forgiveness than permission”
This was the biggest screwup too many kids died because these cops was too irresponsible and was too scared to enter the school.
There were 19 of them inside. They just didn't enter the classroom until they got a key. Something like an hour elapsed. 35 mins elapsed after border patrol arrived with tactical gear.
Let’s not just blame the police. They have a role here but let’s be clear, the school should have been locked and no one at 18 who can’t rent a car, should be able to buy a gun especially an ar15.
@@3071-f6i school did a garbage job with its lockdown protocol. As soon as bullets flew into windows, lockdown should have been activated and all doors locked. Where is the school principal? I want to hear the administration's side of the story. What did they do?
no it was because of miscommunication, they thought he was alone and they thought they needed to guard the rest of the school
@@3071-f6i Don´t defend the police......they FU bigly!
The injured children were losing their blood 🩸 every second while those police officers were waiting for an hour outside doing nothing, except arguing with the parents!! Bloods are on those cops‘ hands!!
The teachers gave their lives to protect the children are true heroes 🦸♀️!
Orders came from high rank in federal govt.
To every police officers personal radio ,a high ranked government official kept them from entering you're saying?
Just trying understand buddy that's all .
That teacher broke the law. Texas law requires school doors to be locked. That chief of police is a liar. Kids were calling. Then they stop parents from going in. No excuse at all. Why would the cops not disobey and go in
I was just about to say I feel for that teacher that left that back door open her guilt must be eating her alive by now. It’s also safe to say that the gun man is a sick vile human so he would have found a way to get in somehow esp since he was able to escape the resource officer. Then I don’t understand like when these kids were calling like doesn’t dispatch send in more backup like asap? No one thought to break open the door or window and confront the freak?? I’ve been following up on this story for days and there’s so much flaws in this that it’s disgusting and makes my blood boil. Worst of it all 21 innocent souls lost. May they rest in eternal peace 😭🙏
@@DreamyDreams77 pretty sure she's dead.
Yes should not have opened that door
Like to know why that door was propped open to begin with? Deadly mistake. Tons of law suits coming, sadly won't bring back those innocent kids and teachers. Nobody is holding me back from entering to get my kids. 1 mother that was restrained once and let go eventually found a way in and got her kids from that school from what I read.
They were clearly scared and never seen anything like that before. I mean I get it. Some people are just not built for these events. It just sucks that all 19 of the cops in that hallway was not able to find it in them to rush in and save those poor kids. Time to find another profession. Maybe a waiter at a restaurant? They got the experience for it…
If these children and families did not come out to say what they experienced, we would have not heard how they failed to react. Initially, they said the responding officers were heroes and they stormed in and took out the shooter. Now we know they waited until they thought the children were dead and they're still not telling the truth.
They did storm in, but the doors are strong security doors, teachers are supposed to keep the shooter OUT using those doors, instead a teacher violated policy and let the shooter into the FIRST door. Then the school staff (not the cops) failed AGAIN, by taking an hour to get the key. The cops couldn't bash the door down, and let medics in because school staff incompetent on TWO compounding errors
yes, RIGHT !!!
At least the kids weren't afraid to disobey the Chief of Police and called other law enforcement from Border police, who arrived and DISOBEYED the Sheriff, who is mentally ill !!!
I am sure the calls to parents had alot to do with the BORDER POLICE showing up !!!
@@john-henryrabb3357 since you seem to know so much why did they have a mass shooter drill there 2 months prior ?
@@john-henryrabb3357 why not breach the windows? Why hang out listening to children scream and get slaughtered.
@@john-henryrabb3357 some teachers are far left looneys trying to teach 4th graders that there are 50+ genders. Do you think there are no anti2A teachers? The looney left has shown time and again they believe the ends justify the means. You think they wouldn't sacrifice some innocence for their goals?
I'm not saying this is what happened. Most likely they were just lax and dumb with security. But I do hope investigators are willing to look deeper into the faculty for culpability.
Infuriating that a teacher would prop open a door. I have been teaching for 19 years, and this is something that has been emphasized at every school I've worked at. Classroom doors should be closed and locked while students are present as well. Locked doors won't prevent every tragedy, but they likely would have here. You do NOT prop open a door.
There was no propped open door. You're going to need a new story to defend those worthless cops.
Unacceptable and cowardly police. Forget my supervising officer, I’m going in to save kids by myself if need be. Shame on these “officers”
Me too I'll save em cowardly or not..
You gonna go into a room with a shooter with a ak and all you got is a pistol??
Same
F the police I’m going in for the children
Fire the school district police chief!!!
He's the one who cost lives!
He is the one who should have known better !!!
The police and swat for deciding to wait outside. Look how many minutes they decided to stay outside the school, then outside in the hallway, and waited for the key. There are a lot of lies being told here. Slowly, but surely the truth is beginning to come out.
Along with the 19 robots with no balls or brains.
Police Chief Pete Arredondo
Relax lol
Better yet jail him.
In a house raid, keys are never an issue for cops. The cops just force the door open one way or the other. Same should have happened in this situation.
Much clearer than the police version thank you. Wow windows on the other side of the rooms 112/113 and still no police intervention? Unbelievable failure of the police response, poor children, I’m crying every time I find more details of this tragedy.Our thoughts and prayers are with the family and friends of Uvalde
They don't have any problems breaking down doors in Black neighborhoods and shooting anybody that's breathing. IJS.
wonder if the police could have gone inside the classroom via window before the gunman
1000000% agree
I’m curious what you expected them to do at the windows? Walk up to it and take a .223 round to the face? One of the teachers who was inside the classroom said the shooter had barricaded himself behind their desk. The news reporter said why didn’t they just shoot through the windows of classroom 111 and 112 at the shooter? Uhhhhhh probably because it’s two classrooms full of children… you can’t just start blindly unloading rounds into the windows hoping you only hit the shooter 🤣
@@nastynvte9876 i don’t like sarcastic arguments . I’m a man of peace
Is there a medal of dishonor? They definitely deserve first prize.
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Most underrated comment. This is 100 facts!!!!
Shame of Cowards Medal
@Alexender Thoriengton 🤖
Title of the movie 🍿..
That little girl, who called 3 times for help trusting that the police would help them, was killed while help was outside the door waiting for a key..
Did he hear gunshots? Why would he think it was no longer an active shooter if they could hear gun shots and the girl was calling?
Because they’re lying
Yeah, makes no sense. I don't want to think this but it's like someone besides the killer was in on this because how can you be so cold-hearted.
I can't believe that all of those officers together couldn't break down one of those doors, or smash a window, in order to get inside one of those rooms! 🥺 Ridiculous
Did you miss the part where the Incident Commander told them to stand down and wait for SWAT ?
They’re not like the doors in your house, they’re security doors in steel and concrete frames. No amount of people could just break it down without equipment.
they should have told them there was drugs inside...they would have knocked it right off the hinges in no time.
crazy, those doors where suppose to keep the bad guys out, and they ended out helping him.
Lucas. They should’ve said the intruder was a black man holding a cell phone. They would’ve broken through in a heart beat
The floor plan is incorrect. Rooms 111 and 112 had windows.
I love how firemen will run into buildings when it's on fire and save lives, but police will not run into buildings to save lives??
Yes sir, I am a volunteer firefighter so I do know a little about fire science and fire training, I just don't understand why they wouldn't run in there.. sad
I didn't sense no urgency from the videos of police standing in the parking lots. They were standing like they were doing security detail at a concert or public event.
That is because that is exactly they train, ever been to any of these active shooter drills. Tents to keep the sun off, coffee, donuts, Gatorade etc.
You don't send everyone inside. What are you thinking?
Plot twist- the doors were UNLOCKED the entire time!!! They were cowards in the hallways... It's sickening
But the police have no problem pulling people over for going 10 over the speed limit or towing them for parking in a no park zone for 15 minutes. Gotta love that
Or attacking and tasing citizens that are trying to save the kids.......
or doing no knock red flag raids
Anything to look cool....cowards
Something's really fishy why don't they release bodycam footage from all the officers it's the law they have to wear
@@myobmyob2215 but there is plenty of footage for that shooting?
@@myobmyob2215 no Parkland school footage either.
It's a hoax
@@danahsutton101 what is?
False flag operation kid had minimum wage job and had access to hundreds of rounds of ammo a couple 5k AR’s with red dots and body armor. Hmmmmmm
More inconsistencies! Rifle gunshots are loud. Why would a teacher prop up an outside door after hearing gunshots outside the school? How is the School District Police superintendant the first on scene and becomes on scene commander? If not on scene why is he making the calls?
He didn’t mention that one of the little girls that called 911 was heard by the gunman and killed. Also didn’t mention how the police asked the students in 111/112 to yell “HELP” if they needed help and when one student did that, the gunman turned around and pumped bullets into their body.
" the police asked the students in 111/112 to yell “HELP” if they needed
help and when one student did that, the gunman turned around and pumped
bullets into their body" This is hearsay your honor
and you believe this because that is what they told you or you seen video and heard audio ?
@@midnight4023 a boy in that classroom told in an interview that this is what happened. One girl yelled help following the cops instructions and the shooter found her hiding place and shot her.
@@midnight4023 the students who survived were the ones who said it. I'm more trusting of children than any of the politicians. Their account isn't constantly changing.
When they waited in the hallway, and more killing occurred, as mentioned in the phone calls of the students inside, they should have heard the gun shots I assume? So how can they think the situation no longer has an active shooter?
Great to know someone else is seeing through the lies. This story keeps breaking my heart everytime I hear more disgusting things like this. They should just come out and say they wanted to wait until all the occupants were dead.
@@JW-ux4ey J W...thank you! EXACTLY!
Nothing adds up. They failed in numerous insurmountable ways.
They also had no Idea if kids were bleeding out that could have been saved
Someone said "they were aiming towards doors...." this is so dumb...these cope need to be charged
Great analysis. Thank you!
They let this happen. That department needs to be dismantled.
they did a horrible job 1 hour to open the door and the little girl keeps calling over and over and over. somethings not right
You can literally run a half marathon in an hour.
Let me tell you that they did not respond on time because they were all Mexixan american kids. They would have been all white they would have responded in 2 minutes
Another commentator on this thread coined it as “The Coward Hour”
@@junomoon6530 I don’t know how to process this horrible event but that’s insane to know
one of the kids that hide under that cloth table said a cop asked if anyone needed help and one girl yelled out help and was shot and killed. the kids that kept calling 911 were killed. all while the cops were outside.
The school district police chief DROPPED THE BALL & IS RESPONSIBLE for this TRAGEDY. 🙈💔
23 police did nothing for an hour and 17 minutes? An off duty border patrol agent who was getting a haircut nearby borrowed the barbers shotgun and was able to get in..
This is not about our children's safety.
Yes, but he did bring in a small tactical team with him that was beginning to form. They used a shield and everything.
@@KatieBellino someone had to do something. Go back and see Days if Our Lives. You dim witt
These stories get wilder every time I read the comment section. At this point it’s hard to believe anyone, not even the news stations.
@@JC-li8kk Hopefully you will conclude believing is not the same as knowing.
You know that you are being lied to,.......the results were planned.
Incompetence card has been seriously worn thin.
@@JC-li8kk: JC: My plaque to you. From your lips ...
Classic comment culled and curated.
Calligraphed and cuneiform in clay.
Correctly composed and created.
Congruent with my cogitation.
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Yeah they did a horrible JOB!!!
The techs who propped the door, then took nearly the full hour to give key to the cops are CRIMINALLY responsible, yes. Cops are shown in video as ready to go in & risk life, but those are security doors which cannot be kicked in, so needed KEY.
Yeah from the kid’s perspective they did a horrible job, now from the crazed gun-mans perspective they gave him all the time they could.
What in the heck did they do in the hallway during that span?? Why not snipe him from the external window?! It makes no sense. It’s like every man on the scene, to a t, lost their ever loving minds!
How did he get the guns? It’s like 9k in total for all the stuff he had. He was 18 with no job.
They failed as officers
Yes these police need to be defunded
Wow. For a while, I was on the side of the police because I thought they were being judged too harshly. Boy, was I wrong.
Police made a bad judgment call.
@@DissentOrConcur you area correct. A bad judgment call that more than likely cost several lives. It is unconscionable behaviour on the cops' part.
@@DissentOrConcur They didn't make a call, they knew protocol and choose to ignore it.
@@ljeans531 exactly! Scared to do their job, protect and serve
@@cobrakai388 that's not what was said it person in charge made the call so he's the one to take the blame.
Several years ago a school shooting occurred at the high school I attended. Except this shooting was done by the school resource officer (also a local police officer) who shot and killed a deranged man who entered the school, following a student who was late getting there. The school immediately went into lock down and the resource officer confronted the man who was armed with guns and intent on using them, in the hallway. She tried at first to diffuse the situation but when she was unable to do so she shot & killed him before he could endanger anyone else. The school was Sullivan Central High School in Blountville, TN. The officers name is Carolyn Gudger, and in my hometown she is a hero. She is the perfect example of what a school resource officer should be. A courageous woman who did her job, putting her life on the line for the students/faculty she was hired to protect. I was very disappointed that there was not a lot of media attention surrounding this incident, except for locally of course. I just really wanted people to see what a difference having a well trained, courageous police officer who takes their promise to protect and serve seriously on campus can make in these situations
Finally, this is a clear concise timeline of events. At some point it was reported that a mom climbed a fence and got her children out. Also another cop went in to rescue HIS kids. When this occurred and how they ( the mother and the cop) actually entered the building is not known for sure. I can see any parent would risk their life to save their kids. Maybe the police should have followed the mother 's lead and entered one way or another. The mother who took charge of the situation and got her kids out is a true hero.
yes I think they were rescued from classrooms where the gunman wasn't there.
You’re implying she rescued kids from the room where the shooter was? Otherwise your post makes no sense about the cops following her lead.
The School should be re- named after the border patrol officer and the Track field should be re-named after the lady that hurdled the fence and ran to rescue her children as well as other students. True America. Hero!!
@@myobmyob2215 the classes all have windows ...they could have shot the guy or entered the window!
police should have entered the building via window
They were too busy handcuffing parents who desperately only wanted to get their children to safety. Sad day in law enforcement response.
wait till the next school board meeting?
Yeah imagine unruly parents just having their way. Got to maintain order at all costs.
the perents should just grabbed their guns and raided the school themselves
This has since been debunked. Magraw lied about the door being propped open. You need to take it down.
There's more security guarding our money than our kids.
The only ones getting proper security are the criminals in Washington.
Absolute failure. No courage and honor
So sad the teacher propped the door open making it easier for the gunman to get in- Was she 1 of the teachers killed in the attack?
the door was left propped open. the school cop was in his cruiser. nobody followed active shooter protocol.
security lapses from the get-go.
Criminal charges for teacher breaking fire code??? Doors don't get propped for a reason
@@funnygirl4474 there’s no way she could have expected this to happen, she propped open the door to go grab her cellphone from her car
Take away that SRO cruiser sp they can stay in campus. A golf cart will work. Saves money on not having to idle it 8 hours a day for ac and music purposes on a cruiser.
@@funnygirl4474 arrest her now.. shes probably nowhere to be found.
@@funnygirl4474 yes exactly
This is the 1st diagram of the school that I have seen. I very much appreciate this type of reporting.
Thank you please keep it up
Very brave little girl, from room 112.
Trying to help her fellow students, truly a hero. My prayers, & concern from Tennessee.
🙏
They had all that equipment and an armored vehicle, and they didn't use it. All that, and they were held up by not having a key? Every custodian has the keys. Couldn't they have driven that armored vehicle up to that window? A hundred cops, milling around outside. What's the point!?
Cops doing nothing but harassing the parents, of course.
Admirable that they had patience in waiting for the key, avoiding property damage to the windows or their expensive door buster tools.
They didn’t have those things immediately. They waited for the tactical gear and armored car to show up. At least for the tactical gear, why aren’t they carried in their trunk?
@@imajhawk11 I saw rifles keeping the parents back so imo they always had more than enough to stop the situation.
Here’s a question, why didn’t the school go into immediate lockdown? The shooter had shot at the building. Wouldn’t that prompt a lockdown drill that’s not fake? What excuse does the school have for that?
The school did go into lockdown but apparently he had already gained entry into the hallway . One of the news stations interviewed one of the students who was in Room 112 or 113 class and he said his teacher headed to lock her classroom door when the shooter shot the glass door window and backed the teacher into the classroom and killed her .
@@melindago6576 I don’t understand why this isn’t being said in these reports. There’s still a lot of speculation which means these news stations haven’t done their due diligence. I’m finding out more in the comments than from the news. But it’s hard to know which comments are reliable, even though the news hasn’t been completely reliable either.
They did go into immediate lockdown, a little boy who was interviewed said the teachers got an alert but by the time the teacher was running to lock her classroom door the shooter was already at the door, backed her in and shot her. The 2 classrooms had an adjoining door so he was able to get into that one too.
@@melindago6576 CNN said he was outside shooting at the building for 12 minutes.
@@melindago6576 Doors need to be locked at all times.
The fact that shots were fired outside the school and they STILL didn’t go on lockdown. RIP.
He forgot that there were also shots fired at 12:21, pretty much blowing out of the water any notion that it was not an active shooter situation still. Unbelievable.
So many let these children down. The parents of the shooter, the 911 operators, the school superintendent, the security guard for the school, the teacher who opened the door where the shooter walked in, whoever was in charge of announcing a lock down so the teachers could have locked the doors, the commander in charge who said it was a barricade situation when it clearly wasn’t, and finally some of the officers who chose to not go into the building when shots could still be heard from outside.
Mostly the senators that allow this to keep happening. This blood is on their hands. They are personally responsible.
The parents also let their kids down. They assumed nothing like this would happen to them. Not one single parent tested the school's physical security.
All of the above. I agree totally.
@@0xsergy: Dear Oxsynergy: The senators are not allowing this to happen. AOC is taking away the positive psychology of the police. She wants defunding -- *we should be defending.* Anti-cop is just what the BLM and AOC want. *Back the blue.* Don't let our heroes get it both ways. Please; We need to win. Sort out the bad people and pierce *their* perineum, not the police.
Insane that entry points were left unlocked & even propped open. That’s problem number one. Problem number two is a lack of courage & leadership, period.
Ceiling Tiles. Why didn't they go in through the ceiling tiles...remove ceiling tiles from either adjacent rooms 110 or from the restroom side? Never heard of a SWAT team or cops waiting around for a key? Ceiling, windows, even use the school intercom system or a bull horn to talk to shooter....distract him to one room. The kids calling 911 are the REAL heroes.
We're dealing with Keystone cops! Smh
Great idea. And local police should have master keys for all schools.
@@jennifermiller4 Yes I agree! Also more cameras for school perimeter. Possibly being monitored by private security firm. Or doors that requires a key to lock door from inside.
@@jennifermiller4 Yep for sure!
Don't call these cops during their lunch break.
They should bring their lunch
Why was the door propped open? Where was the teacher who opened the door? How could no kids be at risk when he has two classrooms full of children locked with himself inside with two guns and he already was using the guns shooting into the school from outside.
Why did they need a key? One of students said the murderer shot through the glass of the door and entered the classroom.
And it took them over an hour to get the key.
S..W.A.T. no matter what would had blown the lock off the door after. chucking a couple of flash bangs..l still am amazed they didn't do jack..
The cops could not shoot the locked door handle..and breech the rooms,waiting on a key..what a crock..
You dont shoot door handles. Thats a movie thing. Not in real life
@@brandonkragnes4915 I don’t know the design of the school door locks, but I would bet that you can shoot a door lock open with 2-6 rounds, if you really needed to get through a regular door. I’m talking about the place where the bolt goes in the plate.
@@Sergei__v although I don't agree with what the officers waiting, you literally have no idea what you're talking about.
this is real life not a movie. Bust down the door or break the window ffs
@@Sergei__v the first rule of firing a weapon is identifying your target and whats behind it. You dont just fire at a doorknob or through a closed door...
Very informative and well spoken!!!
The teacher that propped that door open…..I cant imagine the guilt and grief, my goodness.
She will have heavy PTSD.
I can imagine when he/she goes to prison and is sued over this.
@@robertyoung9589 There’s a chance it was one of the teachers that were killed since it was so close to their room. It could have also had something to do with parents going into the building for the awards ceremonies. Usually you see door propping when kids are at recess because teachers don’t want to keep having to unlock it to let them in to get water or use the restroom. Or the door is broken & the badges don’t work to open it. Or a teacher lost/forgot their badge. We don’t know. They could have been propping that door open all year.
@@JC-li8kk Maybe so…unfortunately it hasn’t been addressed. Where the heck was the principal..and all the other staff? Hiding? Each time they prop open a door…against rules…..they are leaving the door “wide open”…for an intruder to enter that building. So many things gone wrong….unfortunately these adorable …innocent… brave …smart… kids paid the price……for the stupidity of adults.
@@daffodilrose1950 .....Palsgraf v. Long Island Railroad Co.
Those babies were calling 911 pleading for help. 💔 They did what they were taught to do...when there is an emergency, call 911 for help...the "help" came, but for 91 minutes did very little to save them.
It has now been determined that that back door DID close when the teacher went back in . The door failed to automatically lock like it was designed to do.
Really??? They said they couldn't get through the door? Couldn't help those children because they didn't have the equipment??!!! Are you effin kidding me??!!
Those big men with guns couldn't get through a classroom door??!!
Disgusting cowards!!
This time line should start at the grandmother's house, weren't the cops notified about that shooting , dispatcher should've called school to lock down, shooter in the area lock down immediately.
They decided to WAIT OUTSIDE AND LEAVE THE KIDS ALONE WITH THAT PSYCHO!!! In what world does this make any sense??? What kind of police officers we have??? Worse than a third world country at this point
I keep saying this over and over but the teacher who propped the door open needs to be held accountable! I worked at an elementary for 9 years and I seen several colleagues do this to have quick access to the staff parking lot when returning from lunch or breaks. Although it makes it easy for staff that laziness will end up being a deadly threat for everyone else on campus.
It wasn't laziness, she went to get her phone when she heard him wreck his truck in the ditch near the school. She shouldn't have propped it open but it wasn't just out of laziness.
You can bet that someone is going to prison for leaving the door unlocked.
Is that teacher dead that left the door open? I would love to hear her side of the story.
I read that the teacher saw the shooter crash n shoot at some people from the mortuary across the street ...called the cops..then saw the shooter getting closer toward the school..but still never closed the door?? According to that story she had multiple Chances to close the door..don't make sense ..also why didn't the teacher lock the Classrooms..too..he was shooting thew windows before he got in ...they can't lock the door..but he was able to lock him self in with the kids ...weird
@@lateshiachilds3640 I heard she was one of the teachers who was killed.
Those police that didn't enter the building should all be fired asap
I would love to see what you would do in this situation. In fact, I would love to set up this situation just for you.
Why did the teacher prop the door open? He would have NEVER gotten in if the teacher hadn't put the school at risk. That teacher is sus
It’s irresponsible reporting not to state why the door was propped open by the teacher. This event was the convergence of many small events that on a normal school day would have unremarkable if taken separately.
This is awful on many accounts. Seems no one was prepared for this. Teacher propping door open, no resource officer present, school not going into lockdown fast enough for teachers to lock their classrooms, waiting an hour for a key?? Bad communication, little urgency - this is what being comfortable looks like. They thought they were already on summer vacation. I’ll bet every school in America kept their doors closed & locked the very next day. It shouldn’t take something like this to follow basic safety procedures.
In my community, one resource officer is responsible for multiple schools. Just like many other school staff: nurses, psychologists, social workers, OT, PT, and SLPs.
@@Flipper86 In that case, they miss the point of resource officer, which is to have a constant presence on campus. Here is where the community needs a vetted security officer in every school, with the commissioned officer for overall coverage, or to back up the first city officer to arrive.
They didn't even need a key bc the suspect couldn't lock the doors behind him after going in bc the doors only lock from the outside, with a key, and he didn't have a key
here is part ofnarticle:
Before going out to lunch, Evalynn stopped in her classroom to get her school supplies around 11:05, Mia said.
“We ended up talking to the teacher, Mr. Reyes and he let us know that the door would be unlocked for her to get her backpack. He said we were more than welcome to walk back there to grab Evalynn’s belongings, sign her out and leave,”
I feel like the police and them didn’t know what to do or was to scared to go in right away to stop the shooter it’s so sad and irritating
A few armed parents would had stormed that school like D-day if given the opportunity..Police running around like chickens without heads..
@@cynthiaclarke3979 i believe the police were holding back the parents outside too… so upsetting because a lot of this could've been prevented
@@bowbowbow9954
You're correct one mother jumped the fence and got passed the police to get her child herself. Which she was successful in doing.
When I heard the story that same day about the school shooting and then I saw at night that the cop wasn’t answering any questions, I knew that there was a cowardly covered up was happening.
The teacher DID NOT “prop” the door open
I’m confused to why a teacher left the door open? As teachers, we know better than that. We can’t even leave the doors to our classrooms open and unlocked. What was she propping the door open for?
Teachers shouldn't even have a Cell phone with them. They're working. I cant have my cell phone with me at work. But teachers think they have to be available to everyone. There's phones in every room to contact the office not do personal calls and or text messages. Also not fair listening to music with your ear buds. Fire them all for using cell phones.
@@dioniciobenavidez5386 I am a teacher and I carry my cell phone with me at ALL times. The reason is that schools have become targets for mass shootings. The phones in the classrooms do not have the capability to dial 911. And even if they did, what if there were an emergency across the room, and I could not access the phone? If there is a school incident, I have my cell phone on me at all times for my own protection, and for the protection of the students that I am responsible for.
@@jennifermiller4 how many times have you used that cell phone to pay your bills on school time? To call friends and family and the best one of them all Texting? You lady are being paid to use your cell phone while at work and being paid. Where I work i cant use my cell phone, but teachers can for any reason.
Exactly I been wondering this since I heard it cause if you hear shots outside you are safer inside . She should have ran to the office to make sure they locked the school down
Jesus, you people are so clueless. The teacher heard the truck crash outside. She opened the door and left the door open so she can get back inside while she went to see what happened. She saw the accident and walked back to the classroom to call 911. She didn’t know that the driver was the shooter.
This is great coverage and a clear explanation
Except they don’t say why the teacher propped the door open. To get her phone & call 911?? That’s what’s circulating now.
this is absolutely heartbreaking
So there was no barricade, and it took them an hour to get the keys.
Ridiculous.
"No kids at risk" means we decided they were all dead now, so no hurry.
Thanks for the graphic bro, almost as cool as your pop-up election map.
Texas department of public safety have not released one single police body camera.