Only requiring less than half the totems per paragon certainly makes getting this up much less tedious! Follow the stream to catch maybe other lengthy challenges like these live: twitch.tv/btdisab/
I think it would be easy to put in the game and would also be the best quality of life buff in the games history if they would just add a current degree for the paragons. So you click on the tower and it shows because of the total pops of this tower you currently have lvl 14. Then when you go to upgrade the cash slider shows you how many extra lvls you get as you’re moving the bar. That way you can just always tell where you’re at with the paragons…. It’s so dumb to have to guess if you’re at lvl 100.
"well, uhm, actually, that wouldn't be possible because bloons td 6 came out 5 years ago and a year is 365 days so if isab uploaded every day then you would only have almost 2 thousand dollars." -🤓
@@hamberberiscoolg Doing the math, assuming we are using 1,000 free dart monkeys, and that user "user-pu4py3zk6c" would get a dollar for every free dart monkeys, and using the 5 years figure and 365 days (of which I would say at least one has to be a leap year, but we will keep 365 for all years for fun) that you decided to bring out, likely due to a misunderstanding of the original comment(as it seems you thought they meant if they got a dollar for every upload, and only counting his BTD6 videos. 5 * 365 does equal almost 2 thousand). Then I ended up with 1,000 * 1,825, the latter of which is 5 * 365, the product of the first two is 1,825,000. And the price of a dart paragon should only range between 300(maybe 150, I think they halved it "recently"), and 550 thousand, and the highest price modifier should be no more than 80% off memory. Point is, at most, the dart paragon's price is less than 1.5 million. Now, as another user, VortexWW3 pointed out, the original commentor said "dollars", while in BTD6, the currency for upgrades is "money". and/or "coins", I think the former, and a dollar-like currency does exist(which does hypothetically mean they could buy cash drops with that, but that's a bucket of worms that someone else can do, additionally the math should be reran with real-world dollars.) So yeah, usur-pu4py3zk6c would actually never have enough money, but they could have a dollar amount with an equal size(different from value) to the money value of the Dart paragon. TLDR; Get out nerded you so-called "nerd".
I want a update where a paragon will only take as many totems it takes to reach level 100. So if a paragon needs 40, but you have 72, when you upgrade to a paragon, you'll still have 32 totems left
You two sound miserable. If you don’t like content then don’t engage with it. No need to do these comparisons, you can just enjoy ISAB on his own merits
Tewty is a good UA-camr but he does so much mods and with double cash it’s not as interesting as a challenge on chimps. Hes also a little cringe but that’s just for the 8 year olds on the channel
Did you know, the cash shown on the pop count of the engineer is half of the actual amount he’s made? So if it shows 1000 as a yellow number, he’s made 2000 cash. This only happens for the engi
I think the alchemist matters at least a bit, because yes, it's pops come from zomg's and ddt's that the paragons would have popped, but since they didn't need to use their focus or pierce on them, those pops are essentially moved over to bads, and almost 900,000,000 pops on bads surely got you an extra round right?
It's probably significantly less than 900 million, since a lot of those pops would be from AOE's that would hit the BADs anyway in some form or another, but I'd still be willing to wager that it would make a round of difference. Besides... at the end of the day, big number make monkey brain go 'ook!'
The majority of the time in lategame, towers with pierce and DPS as high as max paragons will not run out of pierce very much at all. Of course the alch probably helps just a little bit, but not much and definitely not more that other support towers would
I don’t think BMA is useless. Yes it can’t damage the BAD’s but if it’s doing a bunch of damage to ZOMG’s and below, it could be preventing the paragons from pierce capping on lower level MOABS so that damage can be focused on BAD’s.
I like the ninja paragon alot cause of its ability to slow bloons down permanently and damage then which makes him one of the best free play late game towers
The only time the BMA might be helpful is if there are so many f-ZOMGs that the paragons get pierce capped, and can’t hit BADs. But I find that astronomically unlikely…
bro i JUST did a logs paragon run, it was to get the BMA to 1 billion, but i got all paragons and got to 308, but left because already had done what i wanted and its too tedious
you should do a challenge where you just go 100 rounds and see how much money you can make with the greediest hardcore farming you can. the money total after 100 rounds is your score
now I aint no huge BTD6 person i only play it casually but that special temple variant I feel like that should be considered unofficially as a paragon maybe not as strong but I dunno just makes sense in my head
Does buying a tier 5 engi while having the paragon and then selling it once it reaches max attack speed make it attack faster? I heard that the MK causes it to reach max attack speed a few rounds earlier than it should normally so maybe waiting for it to max on self-ultraboosts before applying the MK applies both? If the attack speed is hard-capped this probably doesn't work, but it would be strange if the MK buff had no effect even if the engi was already maxed on attack speed
BMA is far from useless. If it’s cutting down beefy fortified zomgs in the later rounds, that means it’s giving the paragons more opportunities for their damage to go into bads and ddts, which are much more dangerous.
Man the paragons are never getting pierce capped and the zomgs/ddts are getting perma stalled and pushed back by the paragons anyways, if bma has any impact it's very much minimal and won't be the difference in the round they get to.
video idea: redo your max paragon degree video but instead of focusing on the pops, make the cash slider infinite so the degrees can go up based on money sacrificed
So uhhhh…. I know you do 2 tower challenges, so I was wondering…. Could you do a combo of my favorite towers to see if it’s possible, top path glue gunner and etienne? It would be pretty awesome if you did
I'm trying to get all degree 100s in a run I'm just missing the dart paragon due to pops but the problem is I can't get any further in the game cuz it crashes everytime (I'm on round 323)
Did I miss something about the engineers sentries? Why isn't he using them? Edit: I was wrong. You never see the ability activate but you can see them after the cut at 20:10
@@UpcomingStorm yes he did. Did you not watch the full video and then complain about an issue that comes during the parts you didnt watch? Towards the end where it mattered he did use sentries
I guess not very interesting challenge but I was thinking about how soon can we place all necessary defense to beat impop (on some easy map for example, or maybe harder map for more monkey money $$) so that we can go afk for rest of the game. Like for example if there is a way to have everything set up on round 50, or maybe even sooner... Just a random idea, probably has been done before.
When I do runs to try to get as far as possible, my boat paragon typically gets 1.5 billion pops. Also, I don't understand the wizard paragon like at all
Hey ISAB love your videos thanks so much for posting I am wondering if you can make a updated guide for alternate bloons rounds for X factor 💀 I’ve been struggling so hard
... why would that matter? It IS better than ninja both pop wise and power wise. Buccagon is pretty much BMA on steroids because of how fast it insta kills the BAD remains.
Logs is almost always the best map for lategame testing. It would be nice to see a different map, but that would just mean the test wouldn't be as accurate, and the round the whole thing died to wouldn't be the same.
Only requiring less than half the totems per paragon certainly makes getting this up much less tedious!
Follow the stream to catch maybe other lengthy challenges like these live: twitch.tv/btdisab/
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Based
The video says 10s ago but your comment says 49m ago
I was just about to make this exact video
I guess I wasn’t fast enough
@@PumkinLord_the_secondhe commented on the video while it was private and then unprivated it later
I think it would be easy to put in the game and would also be the best quality of life buff in the games history if they would just add a current degree for the paragons. So you click on the tower and it shows because of the total pops of this tower you currently have lvl 14. Then when you go to upgrade the cash slider shows you how many extra lvls you get as you’re moving the bar. That way you can just always tell where you’re at with the paragons…. It’s so dumb to have to guess if you’re at lvl 100.
its always crazy to see an endgame btd6 map even though ive seen it about a dozen times
Thank you I Suck At Battles for getting all paragons and seeing how far they can get yet again.
The real ones know what his name means
i suck i suck at battles
Bro used his full legal name
@@futabasakurairl
ISIS (ab)
@@futabasakurairl Only sauda can do that
If I had a dollar for every free dart monkey ISAB had at the end of his games, I could buy a dart paragon
"well, uhm, actually, that wouldn't be possible because bloons td 6 came out 5 years ago and a year is 365 days so if isab uploaded every day then you would only have almost 2 thousand dollars."
-🤓
@@hamberberiscoolgwell actually if u just check this video alone he has over a thousand free dart monkeys. Do the actual math 😂🤓
Well… you said dollars not monkey money/coins so… ye
@@Dkkong235 ??? Yk what i mean though right
@@hamberberiscoolg Doing the math, assuming we are using 1,000 free dart monkeys, and that user "user-pu4py3zk6c" would get a dollar for every free dart monkeys, and using the 5 years figure and 365 days (of which I would say at least one has to be a leap year, but we will keep 365 for all years for fun) that you decided to bring out, likely due to a misunderstanding of the original comment(as it seems you thought they meant if they got a dollar for every upload, and only counting his BTD6 videos. 5 * 365 does equal almost 2 thousand). Then I ended up with 1,000 * 1,825, the latter of which is 5 * 365, the product of the first two is 1,825,000. And the price of a dart paragon should only range between 300(maybe 150, I think they halved it "recently"), and 550 thousand, and the highest price modifier should be no more than 80% off memory. Point is, at most, the dart paragon's price is less than 1.5 million. Now, as another user, VortexWW3 pointed out, the original commentor said "dollars", while in BTD6, the currency for upgrades is "money". and/or "coins", I think the former, and a dollar-like currency does exist(which does hypothetically mean they could buy cash drops with that, but that's a bucket of worms that someone else can do, additionally the math should be reran with real-world dollars.) So yeah, usur-pu4py3zk6c would actually never have enough money, but they could have a dollar amount with an equal size(different from value) to the money value of the Dart paragon.
TLDR; Get out nerded you so-called "nerd".
We can always rely on isab to see how long all paragons last
*pause.*
I go into ISAB’s comment section to see how discreet the secretly sus comments are, and I almost overlooked this one lol. 10/10
@@starry8735we have the same pfp mine is just zoomed out more
don't forget the fact that ISAB has tested how long Sauda lasts, and all the other heroes for that matter
now we need sauda to find out how long an isab can last
Every time i think *"I Suck At Battle"* will finish, he will find another way to last another round. Truly an ISAB moment of all time
I want a update where a paragon will only take as many totems it takes to reach level 100. So if a paragon needs 40, but you have 72, when you upgrade to a paragon, you'll still have 32 totems left
Smart
That might come next 5 updates
“Light farming”
8:46 "Even with this light farming..." Bro I can barely manage a 204 banana farm by round 40 let alone a banana central.
15:37 ah yes my favourite paragon, the village
You should add a speed-run timer. Could be fun.
isab is easily the best btd6 youtuber cuz he talks like a normal person and isn’t cringe unlike most others btd6 youtubers (tewtiy)
Ugh, someone needs to make a 12-hour “This is how you DON’T play Bloons TD6” that basically uses a lot of Tewtiy videos.
You two sound miserable. If you don’t like content then don’t engage with it. No need to do these comparisons, you can just enjoy ISAB on his own merits
Tewty is a good UA-camr but he does so much mods and with double cash it’s not as interesting as a challenge on chimps. Hes also a little cringe but that’s just for the 8 year olds on the channel
I never realized how your community has evolved with time
Man, I love you ISAB. Glad to see you well
"Thank you Bloon Crush for pushing the MOABS back"
MOAB press & MOAB Domination:
i love that everytime he almost dies he comes at the issue from a different angle instead of brute forcing it, its small but I like it.
Thank you isab for seeing how long they last.
"Shoot faster." Ah yes, the classic ISAB saying.
thank you for posting at this time i love watching bloons videos to sleep and its always 1am or more when you post lol
Tbh I think the bma pops are kinda useful for cleaning up the insides of bads that pop right at the end
I kinda agree, on 99.99% of runs it won't matter but I play on a crappy phone so it's actually really useful for reducing lag
Honestly, I would have liked to see this with VGST like the last one. Certainly had enough cash to buy one before ending the vid
VTSG would make it last 100 rounds longer 😂
@@aa01blue38nah, not without buffs
"vengeful god sun true"
me when the when vengeful goods and service tax
Isab you should try candy falls by placing sauda then placing merchant man then farms I got 250k at r74
its so funny how isab always wants to see how long each tower lasts.
1:22 coach greg reference?
"even with this light farming i will have enough money for all seven" ah ye, he farmed very lightly, only like one or two banana farms... or 27
Did you know, the cash shown on the pop count of the engineer is half of the actual amount he’s made?
So if it shows 1000 as a yellow number, he’s made 2000 cash.
This only happens for the engi
Because you would've gotten cash from just popping normally, it shows the bonus cash.
@@RexDeorumYT mmmmmmmmmm
Thank you ISAB for thanking Bloon Crush for knocking the Bloons back
8:46 the full screen on brfs: how am i a joke to you
I think the alchemist matters at least a bit, because yes, it's pops come from zomg's and ddt's that the paragons would have popped, but since they didn't need to use their focus or pierce on them, those pops are essentially moved over to bads, and almost 900,000,000 pops on bads surely got you an extra round right?
It's probably significantly less than 900 million, since a lot of those pops would be from AOE's that would hit the BADs anyway in some form or another, but I'd still be willing to wager that it would make a round of difference.
Besides... at the end of the day, big number make monkey brain go 'ook!'
The BMA hits a very small number of balloons and attacks slowly. The number is only big because of the RBE late game.
The majority of the time in lategame, towers with pierce and DPS as high as max paragons will not run out of pierce very much at all. Of course the alch probably helps just a little bit, but not much and definitely not more that other support towers would
Resort would probably be a better map for this challenge considering the fact most of the paragons have a limited range where they’re most effective
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@@reconbob2806 good point...
Maybe on reverse if you don't care about the difficulty
Logs is better cuz longer and better track layout for attack consistancy
There's a really good video by Mackenrules explaining which map is better for late game, and in almost every situation it was logs.
I don’t think BMA is useless. Yes it can’t damage the BAD’s but if it’s doing a bunch of damage to ZOMG’s and below, it could be preventing the paragons from pierce capping on lower level MOABS so that damage can be focused on BAD’s.
Paragons have high pierce so it doesn’t really matter at all. Non BAD bloons get permastunned and deleted in a negligible amount of time
I like the ninja paragon alot cause of its ability to slow bloons down permanently and damage then which makes him one of the best free play late game towers
Thank you isab for seeing how long paragons can last ;)
Is it bad that I want this exact same video but with a max-buffed VTSG on screen too?
I loved when he said "It's paragoning time" and he paragooned paragons
paragooning to this rn
I laughed too hard at him talking about the trap money. Didn’t know he was like that.
Bro 😭😭
Just a couple million is needed. Caught me off guard. 3:29
I don’t really care but you said “we’re not using any powers today” but you used a banana farmer
Yeah minus farmer
ngl farmer is the most forgivable power to use
So you cant read
Fraudulent misrepresentation of the statement that was made
Are you made of stoopid
Why must we all forget the bunny paragon
Thank you Isab for creating the strongest war criminals possible.
Isab really knows how to get me going
Dude
You’ve done the only video I haven’t done for a paragon record series
Bruh
The only time the BMA might be helpful is if there are so many f-ZOMGs that the paragons get pierce capped, and can’t hit BADs. But I find that astronomically unlikely…
bro i JUST did a logs paragon run, it was to get the BMA to 1 billion, but i got all paragons and got to 308, but left because already had done what i wanted and its too tedious
Thank you isab for moving a slider
Do this but when u lose get every tier 5 tower and see how long you survive
The cha cha slider
you should do a challenge where you just go 100 rounds and see how much money you can make with the greediest hardcore farming you can. the money total after 100 rounds is your score
Thank you isab for defeating the bloons
Thank you isab for lasting so long
I hate this comment but it's a good joke ngl
Please do this same run with max VTSG, glue storm, super brittle, support temples etc. to see how far you can go (with sub paragon as well!)
Thank you isab for edging each paragon until they reach their max limit.
I was waiting for a vid to drop, lets go.
“farming harder than last time” - greg doucette 1:33
now I aint no huge BTD6 person i only play it casually but that special temple variant I feel like that should be considered unofficially as a paragon maybe not as strong but I dunno just makes sense in my head
24:10 I see what you did there
Does buying a tier 5 engi while having the paragon and then selling it once it reaches max attack speed make it attack faster? I heard that the MK causes it to reach max attack speed a few rounds earlier than it should normally so maybe waiting for it to max on self-ultraboosts before applying the MK applies both? If the attack speed is hard-capped this probably doesn't work, but it would be strange if the MK buff had no effect even if the engi was already maxed on attack speed
We dont get frames but we get that sweet sweet bitrate with smaller projectiles
Your insane! Thanks for the vid bro
imagine just getting a single like defortifying mortar would make this go so much longer i feel
Thank you isab for popping the bloons
Thank you isab for testing the limits and lasting as long as possible.
8:45 I'm sorry, that's LIGHT farming?!?
Watching your videos after a while i got bored of btd6 nice to see the people who thanked isab for popping bloons have gone
I think it's a bit harsh to call BMA a stat padder. It at least helps prevent the paragons from getting pierce-capped.
“Even with this light farming” while having a full map of brfs.
BMA is far from useless. If it’s cutting down beefy fortified zomgs in the later rounds, that means it’s giving the paragons more opportunities for their damage to go into bads and ddts, which are much more dangerous.
@tsczhaby Ok but the Zomgs still need to be popped by someone. BMA just saved 500 mil worth of dmg being used on Zomgs instead of BADs
Man the paragons are never getting pierce capped and the zomgs/ddts are getting perma stalled and pushed back by the paragons anyways, if bma has any impact it's very much minimal and won't be the difference in the round they get to.
video idea: redo your max paragon degree video but instead of focusing on the pops, make the cash slider infinite so the degrees can go up based on money sacrificed
So uhhhh…. I know you do 2 tower challenges, so I was wondering…. Could you do a combo of my favorite towers to see if it’s possible, top path glue gunner and etienne? It would be pretty awesome if you did
With the rework to the paragons and the new knowledge, I need to redo my resort run. Round 300+ on mobile
3:21 "I don't need to farm that hardcore" and has 10 BRFs and it's round 54
I got:
Navarch (degree 100)
Perfectus (degree 100)
Goliath (degree 100)
Dominus (degree 100)
Ascended (degree 100)
BMA (1 billion+pops)
That was light farming, I'm afraid of heavy farming
Bro really ssid light farming 8:45
Yo idk if this is a bug but when a Jerry's fire is on a boomer and u use the ability the jerry fire shoots boomerang's
Try doing this but no restrictions ISAB. Let's see how far you can make it.
I'm trying to get all degree 100s in a run I'm just missing the dart paragon due to pops but the problem is I can't get any further in the game cuz it crashes everytime (I'm on round 323)
Not me screaming "USE YOUR SENTURIES" at my phone during the last minutes
Big juicy video isab
"light farming" I am just going to kms
Did I miss something about the engineers sentries? Why isn't he using them?
Edit: I was wrong. You never see the ability activate but you can see them after the cut at 20:10
Good, I'm not the only one who thought this
Didn't watch it yet but i quess it's bc he's farming pops for other monkeys to get a highet degree for paragon
@@brillerl yeah but afterwards when he was trying to get max round he still didn't use the sentries
@@UpcomingStormyeah just noticed and was gonna edit comment xD dont know why he aint usin them tho
@@UpcomingStorm yes he did. Did you not watch the full video and then complain about an issue that comes during the parts you didnt watch?
Towards the end where it mattered he did use sentries
I guess not very interesting challenge but I was thinking about how soon can we place all necessary defense to beat impop (on some easy map for example, or maybe harder map for more monkey money $$) so that we can go afk for rest of the game. Like for example if there is a way to have everything set up on round 50, or maybe even sooner... Just a random idea, probably has been done before.
When I do runs to try to get as far as possible, my boat paragon typically gets 1.5 billion pops. Also, I don't understand the wizard paragon like at all
Hey ISAB love your videos thanks so much for posting I am wondering if you can make a updated guide for alternate bloons rounds for X factor 💀 I’ve been struggling so hard
What would be your estimate for the max level reachable with all Lv 100 Paragons and all Tier 5s
at least round 9
@@jordanrushbrook5405 agreed, at least 9 rounds
Would have been cool to see how much a vtsg would have helped at the end 😢
quality content as always
Magus actually being useful for once :0
Magus has always been useful for bosses than doesn't cuck metamorphosis aka bloonarius and dreadbloon
@@pmfcgaming well, honestly I'm not saying it's bad against them, but there just are options with more bang for the buck
No way Isab said light farming
did anyone see at 15:37 when he upgraded the boat paragon?
21:40 For the 1 billion and 1th time
I got to 325 with every paragon at high degrees and a few buffs and the vtsg
now you have to do it again because of sub paragon being added
How many pops did the boat paragon get, you never told us and I wanna see if it's better than ninja
... why would that matter? It IS better than ninja both pop wise and power wise. Buccagon is pretty much BMA on steroids because of how fast it insta kills the BAD remains.
target strong exept boomer and engi cuz you dont need dps on zomg
Man, they can last till round 356, i cant even last 5 mins
Can u do a vid about this dread bloon?
I love isab but I wish he would play different maps
We've seen logs so much, even if he did cubism again it'd be refreshing
Logs is almost always the best map for lategame testing. It would be nice to see a different map, but that would just mean the test wouldn't be as accurate, and the round the whole thing died to wouldn't be the same.
I just wanna know how much the farm made at the end