I agree that there will be a lot more interest once the Aptera is on the road. The vast majority of people haven't even heard about it yet. Once people see it driving around and talk to people who own one, they might decide to get one. I'm retired and, 99% of the time, I'm the only one in my car. I take short trips and don't have a garage so I might not even have to plug it in except in winter. Even then, winters are getting warmer here due to climate change. My car will last a few more years so I'm thinking about buying one but I'll wait until I hear what owners say about it.
Why not put down the small amount of money and get in line now, then listen to the first owners and rescind your order if you don't like what you hear?
@@tims8603 The big battery will add about 650lb of weight vs the 400 mile which will slow acceleration and hurt handling. The 250 will likely be power limited with AWD (the cells can't supply enough for 150KW). We will see what the exact specs shake out as but the 400 or 600 will likely be the fastest and that is still a ton of range. Even if it hurts acceleration I'd love to eventually see an LFP or even sodium ion switch for the shorter ranges since obviously the body has tons of volume and weight capacity; this will also save a ton of $ which helps the company actually make a profit.
@@tims8603 Its still cheaper than a base model 3 and is ~12% selected it based on surveys on facebook groups and youtube; only Aptera knows the real numbers but reservations aren't deliveries (many might downgrade). It will probably go up but is definitely pretty cheap even per kwh of battery. I think the actual use case for 99 kwh of battery in a small car is niche at best; that's a lot of cells to carry around.
You spend a lot of money for a motorcycle? So which money saved? Buy a cheaper BEV car and a decent solar array for your garage with a battery for the same price.
I put in an order kind of uncertainly, but increasingly I'm talking in love with the idea. My wife was never even skeptical, she kinda loves the car. I'll be selling my motorcycle for it for sure. I know it's not a Miata, but I'm going to think of it as my ~2025 Miata :)
I agree with your appraisal of the value of Aptera as a second car. When we leased our 2013 Leaf, I called it our second car that we drove 90% of the time. The limited range took away from what would otherwise have been 95% of our driving. There are some things it's just not suitable for, but if someone has an ICE or even another EV that does cover the remaining needs, an Aptera will cut annual driving costs by a lot. I'm now in that retirement demographic, so it should work well as my only car almost all the time. I can borrow something for the stuff it can't do.
Same here. This will be my super efficient and speedy commute vehicle. Should be extremely cost effective as well due to cost of battery recharge and insurance.
I think you're right on the Aptera being quit the proposition for people who do last mile delivery, particularly Uber Eats/Postmates. Gas prices make doing that job barely break even, but an Aptera being both an EV and borderline never needing to charge via paid electricity could really help make that job more profitable for people. I also find the Aptera interesting as a single person who generally never has to transport more than one other person. I often find myself defaulting to looking at small sedans or Bolt/Leaf/Mini Cooper type cars because they're as small as you can go while still being a normal 4 door car and still have normal-ish cargo space. But the Aptera could help usher in more 2 door cars that still have useful cargo space.
Single and semi-retired…do Uber and lyft, but also do a lot of road tripping…(700 miles to family) love the thought of not putting miles on my model Y…plus I live in a food desert so this will cover my errand runs around town…visiting my daughter 15 miles away…I will also put this on Turo for rent…not interested in letting ppl drive around my Tesla, but as a kick around vehicle I think it makes total sense. 👍🏻
0:37 interesting use case last mile delivery, including Amazon contractors in private vehicles. Kinda luxury, though, compared to driving your existing car 2:14 resort island tourist sightseeing rental fleet. 5:01 food delivery services. 6:39 retired couples, especially Sunbelt states. 7:53 singles. 9:07 secondary commuter.
#7033 in line here. My Aptera will just be an extra car that is cool and quirky, fast, and has fancy doors like a true exotic. There really is no cross-shopping this car.
2:36 Renault already does this with the Twizy (which is a 56 mile range EV). Pretty quirky with the tandem seating but accomplishes the daily driving for tourists that just want to get from point A to B while sightseeing. Aptera would be a great compliment to the Twizy with the sleek design.
I see most cars on the road during commute hours with only a driver, no passengers - myself included. I drive a Tesla and am happy with my purchase, but have reserved an Aptera because I should be able to cover my daily commute with zero charging. Plus, the form-follows-function design is extraordinarily appealing to me. In the US the number of people retiring, or retiring soon, has been growing significantly and that population will benefit greatly from low-cost, right-sized personal transportation when on a fixed budget
I drive aging Nissan 350z convertible, not many two seaters being made today. I use it as a fun fair weather commuter and tourer . Basically it is my second vehicle. My pickup vehicle is want I use for cargo and more people to move around.
All those ideas are great uses for Aptera. I would venture one other case. Married couples that kids have moved out that want to tour the USA. It provides plenty of space for two, and even saw a planned camper setup. Vacation staying at places like state parks and then charge by the sun. What better solution could there be.
I would define "plenty of space for two" completely different, than cramped into 2 small seats. With luggage fixed with bungees and cords on the parcel shelf so it does not act like a guillotine in case of a hard brake.
You pretty much repeated everything I said in my channel trailer in this video re: delivery services. Doing both DoorDash *and* Amazon Flex in my current vehicle (a 2017 Mirai) sucks when it comes to the cost per mile factor - a cost per mile factor that with Aptera, due to a combination of not only solar but also, let’s not forget, the 10MPkWh hyper-efficiency, is going to be almost non-existent.
Other markets for the aptera could be the postal services, Electric power companies meter readers, visiting doctors /nurse's and social services, Police parking enforcement, local, state, and Federal government run abouts,. Definitely perfect as a Company Fleet Vehicle.
If you live in a sunny country, I struggle to understand why you wouldn't want a self-fueling transport option. I'd have one just for emergencies and that's before you take into account the fun factor of the speed of these things. I live in the UK and have my robot mower on a solar panel. Having a car would be awesome in places like Spain, India, Africa, Brazil but it might even be OK here if your commute is relatively small or you just use it as a fun car.
I totally agree. I ordered one just for that reason. Own a small business and have a lot of running around. Usually just me and maybe a few items. It will be so much cheaper
While it does make some sense for around town businesses that have only a reasonable amount of stuff (ie cable repair, pc repair, trainers, cleaning, inspectors, handyman services, POS support, flower delivery, grocery delivery) the accounting rules from the irs for mileage rightoff don't allow autocycles. This means choosing between this tax benefit or those inherent in the aptera design (efficient, cheap to run, and marketing eyes). Some will still choose Aptera (likely for marketing appeal) but not as many people as would without an unintentionally rigged system.
I love this little car. I have loved it since I first laid eyes on the first version many years ago, the one that didn't pan out. Irrational enthusiasm, but there ya go! I hope to convince my wife to embrace it someday too. For her, it's "the look" that turns her off... but with a bit more social proof, maybe that will change. (And when owners start crunching the numbers, PROVING the low cost of ownership, and telling some happy stories, that will help too. So will the inevitable negative posts from new Aptera owners, TBH, which she'll analyze. That's the other turn-off for her: there simply aren't any owners right now, and understandably, she wants to see a track record before investing in any car. Can't fault that...)
Even if you ignore the solar electric part, the Aptera is still an affordable coupe with decent performance. There used to be a lot of those around (eg. Acura RSX, Nissan 240SX, Saturn Ion Redline) and the Toyota 86/Subaru BRZ is pretty much the last one left. It'll be nice to see some competition in that segment. This is closer to a new RSX than the $40,000 sedan Acura is calling an Integra, and being able to commute for free just by parking outside is icing on the cake. I hope the insurance rates won't be too high. That, plus premium gas, is the reason I didn't buy a BRZ.
I think for individuals you are forgetting the upfront cost. Yes compared to a Model 3 it is much cheaper but the people in that price get a Corolla or similar. Like for food delivery/ last mile most of those families and they are using the current vehicle which is meant for the entire family most people do not buy a dedicated vehicle for that. Also I personally don’t think people would want to buys a vehicle just to commute to work and back or else people who use motorcycles/mopeds would be way higher but you don’t see that. Like imagine if something come up when you have a family and you can’t pick your kids up because of the car you drove to work that day, I personally don’t see families getting it unless its a fun car similar to a Corvette or Mustang. Unless you are set having an electric car you can get a very efficient ICE car for not a lot of money (once supply chains calm down) and if it is reliable like Japanese brands maintenance from my experience is not much. The only real spot where I see Aptera could make a good dent is island chains like Hawaii or similar where fuel is very expensive and it is sunny year round. I also feel like the solar conversion rate would be fairly low though because you could get solar installed at your business it would likely be more efficient and it can power other things as well. Realistically I only see business embracing this like if Dominos got a fleet of them for delivery vehicles because for an individual it does not make a ton of sense unless you live in So Cal and do not have a family.
No question Aptera isn't a family car; that's the market for Tesla, Chevy Bolt, Sion etc. If you don't want kids or they already left the nest its a perfectly valid option. The vehicle is sporty, cheap and probably more capable of moving cargo than a typical sedan. Aptera doesn't need to get energy from solar to be the cheapest vehicle per mile by a longshot; solar is a bonus.
"people in that price get a Corolla or similar. " Not once they really understand the difference in ownership cost. I suggest you choose your favorite Japanese ICE vehicle, and actually calculate the ownership cost comparison in your case. My wife and I are retired, and it is the least expensive for us by quite a margin, and we presently own a Gen 1 Honda Insight. And, unlike the Honda, it IS a fun car similar to a Corvette or Mustang. The 2WD version has a 0-60 time matching the Mustang Ecoboost V8 and AWD is 3.5 seconds! We both had rides in a 2WD prototype last year in November, and it is thrilling.
@@tims8603 I am just saying a number of the examples he gave just do not make sense in the video. If you read further I do say it makes sense for some people but most of the examples do not.
@@n.brucenelson5920 You are forgetting upfront cost. If the long term cost is the only thing that is important then why don't more people have solar because long term it will be cheaper?
Several months ago, I ordered the longest range model with maximum solar for driving in the sunshine state - Florida. As a true believer in Aptera, I also bought a chuck of stock too. Solar may not cover 100% of my usage, but close to 50%. As empty nesters, we rarely need more than two people in the car. Aptera will be a second car to 2022 model S. One concern is abusing the vehicle’s paint & finish since a majority of time it should be stored in the sun.
Every true believer has to buy a chuck of stock. And if the anemic solar yield is 50% of your usage, you should ponder about an E-Bike. Costs much less than the Aptera motorcycle.
Weight numbers for cars are always understated for “don’t sue me bro” reasons… generally, 400 lbs over is fine, I would say... FYI your average 5-person car they say the max weights is 800 lbs… do the math…. Disclaimer- don’t sue me bro 😅
How realistic do you think aptera will be in winter weather markets? I’m guessing little to no ppl will use it as a daily driver in those areas, maybe a few well to do parked in the garage over winter type people?
I don’t get why people say solar isn’t worth it because it doesn’t give enough range. It’s as if they think solar is worthless unless it can cover EVERYTHING on solar power. Even if it doesn’t replace all of your miles, the solar could easily cover a quarter or half of your energy usage. That’s a significant cut to the amount of energy you need pay for yourself. I drive a sonata hybrid with a solar panel and it has saved me a measurable amount of money on fuel over the two years I’ve owned it now and that car isn’t even electric. It may not be a ton but if you can notice the difference in a gas car then the benefits in a full EV should be even better
The benefits of the solar panels go far beyond the money saved for electricity. It is easy to default to thinking that everyone just simply plugs in their EV at night when they put it in the garage, but this is the best case scenario. Condo dwellers, apartment dwellers, other renters and so many others do not have garages and might not be able to plug in at night. On trips, chargers may be out of the way and take extra time to get to. In these situations, the savings from solar is in personal human time saved from driving out of the way to recharge, waiting for chargers to be available and waiting on charging to complete. These time savings can be far more valuable than electricity costs. Once the value of this becomes apparent to users, it may become the next "killer app" and a benefit that many may be quite hesitant to give up.
@@jonj9149 The anemic solar array wont be able to add a significant amount of loading for your "Condo dwellers". And if they switch on the aircon to cool down the vehicle that is heated up by standing in the sun all day, all solar yield is gone. It would be cheaper to park it in the shadow,.
@@vic321344 Please work on your anemic reading comprehension skills. I said nothing about powering your home with the Aptera. Plugging in at night is to charge the vehicle, not to power your home. If I need solar power for my home, I add solar panels to my home. If I need solar power for my vehicle, I get an Aptera with solar panels on it.
Regarding last-mile-delivery, the aerodynamics probably wouldn't help too much here because usually these are not at highway speeds. So the benefit would mostly be from weight and the solar charging.
Correct, but also increased efficiency of power delivery to the ground due to the use of wheel motors, and the lower rolling resistance of three tires.
@@n.brucenelson5920 In wheel motors are not efficient. The efficiency of Aptera comes from the aerodynamics and the weight, due to nonexistent safety features. All other parts are quite inefficient.
Yeah I do Uber eats and am single, in this season of my life the Aptera is what I want to drive. And I have a m3 and love it haha. But can't wait for this awesome car..
I sort of wish they came out with a 3 seat model. That would make it much more useful to small families and those for whom 2 seats is bare minimum. People buy cars based on the
great car ,looking forward to them coming to Australia. could you possibly do a model run down on the Aptera , basically what you get for your money on each Model please
You wouldn't use an Aptera for last mile delivery. It's not designed for this kind of low speed usage. Instead, you'd use something cheaper, boxy, and with a much weaker engine. For example I've seen delivery tricycles that are basically an evolution on electric cargo bikes, with a larger cargo space and slightly more powerful motor.
Still a bit pricey for a first car unless you have a better job than most of us and not the only car for a family of more than two (or likely to be more than two in a few years), but as a second car or for the financially secure single person, what is not to like? No it will not "win" if it gets hit by one of the giant vehicles that Detroit loves to sell, but neither will anything in the cheap or fun categories.
unless somehting ha changed .... the 400 mpc(harge) is 25900, not 29000. Steve Fambro may have mispoke in his recent interview. The web site still says the 25900 price.
Last mile delivery: The Wuling E10 mini van. Costs 4000 $. Still better for this task than the Aptera motorcycle. 2 Wulings side by side are smaller than the Aptera. Having a weight of under 600kg without batteries, it registers as L7e-CU. Like a Quad, no need for safety features of a car (same for Aptera). You get at least 6 of these Light-Cargo Vans for one Aptera.
I have 3 kids and a partner. I’m going to buy one as commuter car, my partner has a larger car and the oldest will be driving by the time it comes out. I don’t need all the seats.
Granted, Aptera does have "stick it to the oil man" appeal. It is a motorcycle that tries to be a car. Some will be used for commutes, but why do I need to buy another 30k vehicle when Nissan Leaf is still cheaper and I can take my 2 kids and dog along for a ride? I am personally getting a RWD Model 3 as it is the car that fits my family and lifestyle with all the safety and rage of a CAR. Money is tight now days and once novelty wears off I might pick one up used for fun but not at full retail. Oh, and solar charging is more of a gimmick if you want to USE the vehicle - how many miles do you think a delivery person puts on the car in a day? I am sure it is more than 40. So you still need to charge it in most cases.
No one (probably) is telling YOU that you need to buy one. We all have different needs, and Aptera is a niche vehicle for sure. However when you said "Money is tight now days" you put your finger on the reason for many of us. Aptera uses perhaps a third of the power of other vehicles to travel the same distance, and although you may still need to charge it, the solar means not as frequently or as long.
They cannot proof pedestrian safety because of the front wheels. And the cannot be registered in europe because the Aptera motorcycle is too wide. Next regulation would be ECE R100 REV2 for safety of electric batteries. Aptera has no chance of passing them. Because the battery is completely built inside the drivers cell.
Keep doing your due diligence. I talked to the company directly and also some of their partners and suppliers such as Elaphe, before I was in. No regrets, even though it is not a sure thing yet.
I think they at the nail on the head with the concept of this vehicle. Unfortunately, I am concerned that their timeline on production might be shortly followed by Teslas release of an ultra efficient vehicle. I do think that they will beat Tesla to production, but if tesla builds a similar vehicle (low price, high efficiency) I think that’s some serious competition
A smaller/cheaper 4-seat Tesla would eat into most automaker’s marketshare, but the Aptera concept is still way more efficient than what it seems Tesla is proposing and without the solar. But someone must be eying copying Aptera, I would think…
I, along with the Aptera founders, are hoping that other companies follow their lead in developing efficient, affordable vehicles. Making money is not the only reason they are doing this, only a necessary part of it.
@@n.brucenelson5920 agreed. Consumers will greatly benefit from apteras existence and development of this form factor. That being said, I think their long term potential as a company will be greatly determined by their capacity to compete.
@@KylePapili I think so, too. Their second planned 4 door, 5 passenger sedan will be direct competition, and have tooling costs an order of magnitude less expensive than what Tesla is doing now.
@@n.brucenelson5920 I think it’s premature to speculate on their tooling costs for a 2nd generation vehicle when we have yet to see volume production of a first generation vehicle. Similarly, we have not yet seen Tesla’s ability to mass manufacture this form factor.
@@TailosiveEV Not true that 99% of your content is speculation. Just saying that three-wheeled vehicles have never been successful. Maybe the Aptera will be.
It is a motorcycle legally, it cannot be registered in most other legislations outside US. Its wider than a Hummer H1. It has no trunk, just a packet shelf. Its a guillotine in case of a hard brake. In some legislations you have to wear a helmet. Buy a small van or an mg4, its much cheaper for delivering small amounts of goods. And 2 doors mean: Its a deathtrap in case of an accident. And it still does not exist. Even the latest Gamma turns out to be just a mockup quickly banged together for a show.
Clearly you don't know the Uber market. Many of their drivers are so poor they have to rent their vehicle, judging by the number of cheap car rental ads on Facebook Marketplace. Aptera can't compete with rental of a 10yo vehicle that has already been amortised to $2k value by private use. I can see it being very popular with retirees (ex-hippie types) who would use it as a shopping trolley once a fortnight.
A bunch of small niche markets still equals a niche market. The cheaper Arcimoto would be a better fit for many of the usages you described. I like the Aptera, but it's a niche market and relatively expensive for what you get. With all the new, cheaper EVs planned to hit the market in the next 2-3 years I'm worried they have missed their window.
Daily commuter is not a niche. I see in many companies parking lots , smaller cars and SUVs then at the mall more pickups , large SUVs, and minivans. I do that now myself. It is a two car strategy. All vehicles serve a niche. A large 7 seater SUV or four four pickup is terrible choice for a daily commute, too expensive to buy and operate and it’s lumbering and difficult to park. Not many two seaters expect luxury sport coupes.
@@stanhry Everything smaller than an SVU can be a daily commuter. That's like saying it's in the vehicle niche. Hybrids and small EVs are perfectly suitable as daily commuters and can typically fit four. If you don't need a four seater, the Solo and FUV are cheaper and arguably more practical.
No, its a deathtrap in case of an accident. It wont pass even the simplest safety regulations for cars. But beeing a motorcycle the Aptera does not have to.
@@timchow924 honestly I'm not totally sure. They have videos on how to change a tire and say it should be as easy as a normal vehicle. If it's not, that is something that would suck but it's a unique vehicle so I assume not everyone will want one..
I just saw a video made by "Aussie Ideas Man." What a tool! He's calling Tom and Chris charlatans and other names. I don't know why he is so vitriolic! I just hope the production schedule holds. Maybe trolls like him will disappear!
The Aptera is a bit unconventional, but in an EV industry disruptive way -- just like Tesla was a decade ago. Since the solar-assist can provide up to 40 miles/day, over double my daily commute, I may never have to charge it until trip time. Aptera makes so much sense, I just reserved one and invested.
Nobody knows how much charge the Aptera solar really provides. Even the Gamma is only a mockup and not functional. So no real life data available. Aptera just makes promises.
It looks very dangerous and unsafe to be in. If you get into an accident in America with that thing you’re done! Might have some use in Third World countries or countries that don’t care about safety or something. I wonder how good it does in the snow ha ha ha
True! Even more popular overseas in city with small street. There is not anything likes this out there. Aptera will succeed as the demand is there. Even though i have the Cybertruck on order i still am thinking of buying this car.
This car looks good, it looks like a plane. No doubt about that. It may be nice to drive too Beside that: -it's huuuge, but has only 2 seats -the solar charge is like the aerodynamic shape in the real world is basically worthless, - a lil crash with those exposed motors will make you chance one almost for sure (I still don't get why they didn't put a single in the back wheel) You guys remember the carver? The leaning car-ish? That one was as cool as the apterra and guess what happened to that one... dead Edit: everybody over 60 will struggle too much to enter in that. It could be a good starting point to built some special vehicle indeed as you said
Regarding your edit - I am in my 70s and have ridden in one. I found that I could back up to the seat with my butt, sit straight down, and pivot to swing my legs in - not hard compared to several other standard cars I have owned." Also, what "real world" do you live in that makes the aerodynamic shape basically worthless? When braking there is a weight transfer to the front of the vehicle. With an ABS/traction control that senses wheel slip and adjusts 32 times per revolution, or about every 2.5" of tread travel, Aptera has far more control and can stop faster with 2WD rather than only one in the back.
If the demand warrants it, they can build more small factories. The tooling costs are minuscule compared to what it costs Tesla, for instance. More molds can be easily and cheaply 3D printed.
You can still dodge potholes with a 3-wheeled vehicle. The tire treads don't span the entire width of the vehicle, they are actually fairly narrow. If you do hit one, it is a single hit only, not the inevitable front/back double hit that you get in a 4-wheeled vehicle.
@@timchow924 No, quite the opposite. Because the vehicle is very light, the impact forces are much less when encountering a pothole. Torque vectoring and extreme stability due to the wide stance helps ensure you can maintain control on extreme terrain.
Another market is teenagers, at least for parents that are willing to spend 25k on a new car for their kid, or when they start moving to the used market. Super low maintenance, super low cost, and unlike most EVs, if your kid gets stranded somewhere with an empty battery, they can wait for it to change itself
@@vic321344 how much of a death trap it is really is not known yet until the preform some more final highway safety tests I'm very curious to see how those turn out also
@@louisjov In the case of a crash the first thing that will ripp of is the front wheel. So the Aptera will turn upside down. You see this kind of behaviour in equally shaped aeroplane cells with outrigged wheels. In this position you cannot open the doors and you cannot escape through the windows (snake man Nelson might). The battery is completely installed in the driver cell. So if the battery catches fire, the toxic fumes cannot escape and you have to digest them.
Single and ready for my aptera😂
Same!!!
I agree that there will be a lot more interest once the Aptera is on the road. The vast majority of people haven't even heard about it yet. Once people see it driving around and talk to people who own one, they might decide to get one.
I'm retired and, 99% of the time, I'm the only one in my car. I take short trips and don't have a garage so I might not even have to plug it in except in winter. Even then, winters are getting warmer here due to climate change.
My car will last a few more years so I'm thinking about buying one but I'll wait until I hear what owners say about it.
Why not put down the small amount of money and get in line now, then listen to the first owners and rescind your order if you don't like what you hear?
@@stephensullivan1011 Yeah, I've been seriously thinking about doing that. Your reply finally put me over the edge so I did.
Great video. For me Aptera is a sports car which still has the storage for my dogs and camping gear.
@Oops1e, I never thought of it that way, but yes, come to think of it, I think that is the one of the best way to describe this vehicle
The tri-motor with the big battery is definitely a sports car. The one I'm thinking about buying I would describe as a sporty car.
@@tims8603 The big battery will add about 650lb of weight vs the 400 mile which will slow acceleration and hurt handling. The 250 will likely be power limited with AWD (the cells can't supply enough for 150KW). We will see what the exact specs shake out as but the 400 or 600 will likely be the fastest and that is still a ton of range. Even if it hurts acceleration I'd love to eventually see an LFP or even sodium ion switch for the shorter ranges since obviously the body has tons of volume and weight capacity; this will also save a ton of $ which helps the company actually make a profit.
@@ccibinel Yeah, you're probably right. I don't think there will be many orders for the 1,000 mi. version.
@@tims8603 Its still cheaper than a base model 3 and is ~12% selected it based on surveys on facebook groups and youtube; only Aptera knows the real numbers but reservations aren't deliveries (many might downgrade). It will probably go up but is definitely pretty cheap even per kwh of battery. I think the actual use case for 99 kwh of battery in a small car is niche at best; that's a lot of cells to carry around.
I love the Aptera so much!!! The money saving aspect alone is enough for me to want it.
You spend a lot of money for a motorcycle? So which money saved? Buy a cheaper BEV car and a decent solar array for your garage with a battery for the same price.
I put in an order kind of uncertainly, but increasingly I'm talking in love with the idea. My wife was never even skeptical, she kinda loves the car. I'll be selling my motorcycle for it for sure. I know it's not a Miata, but I'm going to think of it as my ~2025 Miata :)
Gonna be faster than your Miata for sure
If you live in the US you will most likely get it earlier than 2025.
I agree with your appraisal of the value of Aptera as a second car. When we leased our 2013 Leaf, I called it our second car that we drove 90% of the time. The limited range took away from what would otherwise have been 95% of our driving. There are some things it's just not suitable for, but if someone has an ICE or even another EV that does cover the remaining needs, an Aptera will cut annual driving costs by a lot. I'm now in that retirement demographic, so it should work well as my only car almost all the time. I can borrow something for the stuff it can't do.
You hit the nail on the head with the secondary commuter one. That's exactly what peaked my interest in Aptera.
Same here. This will be my super efficient and speedy commute vehicle. Should be extremely cost effective as well due to cost of battery recharge and insurance.
That's why I ordered one.
I think you're right on the Aptera being quit the proposition for people who do last mile delivery, particularly Uber Eats/Postmates. Gas prices make doing that job barely break even, but an Aptera being both an EV and borderline never needing to charge via paid electricity could really help make that job more profitable for people. I also find the Aptera interesting as a single person who generally never has to transport more than one other person. I often find myself defaulting to looking at small sedans or Bolt/Leaf/Mini Cooper type cars because they're as small as you can go while still being a normal 4 door car and still have normal-ish cargo space. But the Aptera could help usher in more 2 door cars that still have useful cargo space.
Single and semi-retired…do Uber and lyft, but also do a lot of road tripping…(700 miles to family)
love the thought of not putting miles on my model Y…plus I live in a food desert so this will cover my errand runs around town…visiting my daughter 15 miles away…I will also put this on Turo for rent…not interested in letting ppl drive around my Tesla, but as a kick around vehicle I think it makes total sense. 👍🏻
0:37 interesting use case last mile delivery, including Amazon contractors in private vehicles. Kinda luxury, though, compared to driving your existing car 2:14 resort island tourist sightseeing rental fleet. 5:01 food delivery services. 6:39 retired couples, especially Sunbelt states. 7:53 singles. 9:07 secondary commuter.
#7033 in line here. My Aptera will just be an extra car that is cool and quirky, fast, and has fancy doors like a true exotic. There really is no cross-shopping this car.
2:36 Renault already does this with the Twizy (which is a 56 mile range EV). Pretty quirky with the tandem seating but accomplishes the daily driving for tourists that just want to get from point A to B while sightseeing.
Aptera would be a great compliment to the Twizy with the sleek design.
I see most cars on the road during commute hours with only a driver, no passengers - myself included. I drive a Tesla and am happy with my purchase, but have reserved an Aptera because I should be able to cover my daily commute with zero charging. Plus, the form-follows-function design is extraordinarily appealing to me. In the US the number of people retiring, or retiring soon, has been growing significantly and that population will benefit greatly from low-cost, right-sized personal transportation when on a fixed budget
Yes, I think once folks see it being successful on the road, if the price stays low it will sell really well.
I drive aging Nissan 350z convertible, not many two seaters being made today. I use it as a fun fair weather commuter and tourer . Basically it is my second vehicle. My pickup vehicle is want I use for cargo and more people to move around.
Nailed it! I'm the "secondary commuter" demographic and will be anxiously awaiting my Aptera!
Culebra is awesome! One of my favorite places to go and yes, an excellent place for an Aptera.
All those ideas are great uses for Aptera. I would venture one other case. Married couples that kids have moved out that want to tour the USA. It provides plenty of space for two, and even saw a planned camper setup. Vacation staying at places like state parks and then charge by the sun. What better solution could there be.
My wife and I are eager to head for Death Valley immediately after picking up ours from the factory.
@@n.brucenelson5920 You already promised that endlessly for end of this year. It is end of this year.
I would define "plenty of space for two" completely different, than cramped into 2 small seats. With luggage fixed with bungees and cords on the parcel shelf so it does not act like a guillotine in case of a hard brake.
You pretty much repeated everything I said in my channel trailer in this video re: delivery services. Doing both DoorDash *and* Amazon Flex in my current vehicle (a 2017 Mirai) sucks when it comes to the cost per mile factor - a cost per mile factor that with Aptera, due to a combination of not only solar but also, let’s not forget, the 10MPkWh hyper-efficiency, is going to be almost non-existent.
Other markets for the aptera could be the postal services, Electric power companies meter readers, visiting doctors /nurse's and social services, Police parking enforcement, local, state, and Federal government run abouts,. Definitely perfect as a Company Fleet Vehicle.
If you live in a sunny country, I struggle to understand why you wouldn't want a self-fueling transport option. I'd have one just for emergencies and that's before you take into account the fun factor of the speed of these things.
I live in the UK and have my robot mower on a solar panel. Having a car would be awesome in places like Spain, India, Africa, Brazil but it might even be OK here if your commute is relatively small or you just use it as a fun car.
I totally agree. I ordered one just for that reason. Own a small business and have a lot of running around. Usually just me and maybe a few items. It will be so much cheaper
While it does make some sense for around town businesses that have only a reasonable amount of stuff (ie cable repair, pc repair, trainers, cleaning, inspectors, handyman services, POS support, flower delivery, grocery delivery) the accounting rules from the irs for mileage rightoff don't allow autocycles. This means choosing between this tax benefit or those inherent in the aptera design (efficient, cheap to run, and marketing eyes). Some will still choose Aptera (likely for marketing appeal) but not as many people as would without an unintentionally rigged system.
Your comment about Retired people is already true as it seems that the majority of reservation holders are retired.
I love this little car. I have loved it since I first laid eyes on the first version many years ago, the one that didn't pan out. Irrational enthusiasm, but there ya go! I hope to convince my wife to embrace it someday too.
For her, it's "the look" that turns her off... but with a bit more social proof, maybe that will change.
(And when owners start crunching the numbers, PROVING the low cost of ownership, and telling some happy stories, that will help too. So will the inevitable negative posts from new Aptera owners, TBH, which she'll analyze. That's the other turn-off for her: there simply aren't any owners right now, and understandably, she wants to see a track record before investing in any car. Can't fault that...)
Even if you ignore the solar electric part, the Aptera is still an affordable coupe with decent performance. There used to be a lot of those around (eg. Acura RSX, Nissan 240SX, Saturn Ion Redline) and the Toyota 86/Subaru BRZ is pretty much the last one left. It'll be nice to see some competition in that segment. This is closer to a new RSX than the $40,000 sedan Acura is calling an Integra, and being able to commute for free just by parking outside is icing on the cake.
I hope the insurance rates won't be too high. That, plus premium gas, is the reason I didn't buy a BRZ.
You hit the nail on the head with your point of retirees and singles.
I think for individuals you are forgetting the upfront cost. Yes compared to a Model 3 it is much cheaper but the people in that price get a Corolla or similar. Like for food delivery/ last mile most of those families and they are using the current vehicle which is meant for the entire family most people do not buy a dedicated vehicle for that. Also I personally don’t think people would want to buys a vehicle just to commute to work and back or else people who use motorcycles/mopeds would be way higher but you don’t see that. Like imagine if something come up when you have a family and you can’t pick your kids up because of the car you drove to work that day, I personally don’t see families getting it unless its a fun car similar to a Corvette or Mustang. Unless you are set having an electric car you can get a very efficient ICE car for not a lot of money (once supply chains calm down) and if it is reliable like Japanese brands maintenance from my experience is not much.
The only real spot where I see Aptera could make a good dent is island chains like Hawaii or similar where fuel is very expensive and it is sunny year round. I also feel like the solar conversion rate would be fairly low though because you could get solar installed at your business it would likely be more efficient and it can power other things as well. Realistically I only see business embracing this like if Dominos got a fleet of them for delivery vehicles because for an individual it does not make a ton of sense unless you live in So Cal and do not have a family.
No question Aptera isn't a family car; that's the market for Tesla, Chevy Bolt, Sion etc. If you don't want kids or they already left the nest its a perfectly valid option. The vehicle is sporty, cheap and probably more capable of moving cargo than a typical sedan. Aptera doesn't need to get energy from solar to be the cheapest vehicle per mile by a longshot; solar is a bonus.
"people in that price get a Corolla or similar. " Not once they really understand the difference in ownership cost. I suggest you choose your favorite Japanese ICE vehicle, and actually calculate the ownership cost comparison in your case.
My wife and I are retired, and it is the least expensive for us by quite a margin, and we presently own a Gen 1 Honda Insight. And, unlike the Honda, it IS a fun car similar to a Corvette or Mustang. The 2WD version has a 0-60 time matching the Mustang Ecoboost V8 and AWD is 3.5 seconds! We both had rides in a 2WD prototype last year in November, and it is thrilling.
Why do so many people think that every one is just like them. Different people have different needs. No one car is perfect for everyone.
@@tims8603 I am just saying a number of the examples he gave just do not make sense in the video. If you read further I do say it makes sense for some people but most of the examples do not.
@@n.brucenelson5920 You are forgetting upfront cost. If the long term cost is the only thing that is important then why don't more people have solar because long term it will be cheaper?
Several months ago, I ordered the longest range model with maximum solar for driving in the sunshine state - Florida. As a true believer in Aptera, I also bought a chuck of stock too.
Solar may not cover 100% of my usage, but close to 50%. As empty nesters, we rarely need more than two people in the car. Aptera will be a second car to 2022 model S.
One concern is abusing the vehicle’s paint & finish since a majority of time it should be stored in the sun.
Welcome to the family, John!
Every true believer has to buy a chuck of stock. And if the anemic solar yield is 50% of your usage, you should ponder about an E-Bike. Costs much less than the Aptera motorcycle.
small light packages, payload is supposed to be 500lbs that means the driver weight needs to be subtracted from that as well
Where I live that means 2 people and no cargo.
Weight numbers for cars are always understated for “don’t sue me bro” reasons… generally, 400 lbs over is fine, I would say... FYI your average 5-person car they say the max weights is 800 lbs… do the math…. Disclaimer- don’t sue me bro 😅
A minor drawback of the Aptera for delivery use, at least in a urban setting, is its width and relatively wide turning diameter.
Great and Awesome ideas...Love an affordable EV Aptera....Uses Clean Energy...and good for environment. Would like to see it on the road like Tesla.
How realistic do you think aptera will be in winter weather markets? I’m guessing little to no ppl will use it as a daily driver in those areas, maybe a few well to do parked in the garage over winter type people?
I don’t get why people say solar isn’t worth it because it doesn’t give enough range. It’s as if they think solar is worthless unless it can cover EVERYTHING on solar power. Even if it doesn’t replace all of your miles, the solar could easily cover a quarter or half of your energy usage. That’s a significant cut to the amount of energy you need pay for yourself.
I drive a sonata hybrid with a solar panel and it has saved me a measurable amount of money on fuel over the two years I’ve owned it now and that car isn’t even electric. It may not be a ton but if you can notice the difference in a gas car then the benefits in a full EV should be even better
And I bet the Sonata weighs more and isn't as aerodynamic.
The benefits of the solar panels go far beyond the money saved for electricity. It is easy to default to thinking that everyone just simply plugs in their EV at night when they put it in the garage, but this is the best case scenario. Condo dwellers, apartment dwellers, other renters and so many others do not have garages and might not be able to plug in at night. On trips, chargers may be out of the way and take extra time to get to. In these situations, the savings from solar is in personal human time saved from driving out of the way to recharge, waiting for chargers to be available and waiting on charging to complete. These time savings can be far more valuable than electricity costs. Once the value of this becomes apparent to users, it may become the next "killer app" and a benefit that many may be quite hesitant to give up.
@@jonj9149 The anemic solar array wont be able to add a significant amount of loading for your "Condo dwellers". And if they switch on the aircon to cool down the vehicle that is heated up by standing in the sun all day, all solar yield is gone. It would be cheaper to park it in the shadow,.
@@vic321344 Please work on your anemic reading comprehension skills. I said nothing about powering your home with the Aptera. Plugging in at night is to charge the vehicle, not to power your home. If I need solar power for my home, I add solar panels to my home. If I need solar power for my vehicle, I get an Aptera with solar panels on it.
@@jonj9149 Neither did I. Please work on your anemic reading comprehension skills.
Regarding last-mile-delivery, the aerodynamics probably wouldn't help too much here because usually these are not at highway speeds. So the benefit would mostly be from weight and the solar charging.
Correct, but also increased efficiency of power delivery to the ground due to the use of wheel motors, and the lower rolling resistance of three tires.
@@n.brucenelson5920 In wheel motors are not efficient. The efficiency of Aptera comes from the aerodynamics and the weight, due to nonexistent safety features. All other parts are quite inefficient.
Yeah I do Uber eats and am single, in this season of my life the Aptera is what I want to drive.
And I have a m3 and love it haha.
But can't wait for this awesome car..
I sort of wish they came out with a 3 seat model. That would make it much more useful to small families and those for whom 2 seats is bare minimum. People buy cars based on the
great car ,looking forward to them coming to Australia. could you possibly
do a model run down on the Aptera , basically what you get for your money on each Model please
It is a motorcycle, not a car. And therefore it cannot be registered in Australia. It is too wide.
You wouldn't use an Aptera for last mile delivery. It's not designed for this kind of low speed usage.
Instead, you'd use something cheaper, boxy, and with a much weaker engine.
For example I've seen delivery tricycles that are basically an evolution on electric cargo bikes, with a larger cargo space and slightly more powerful motor.
They have well over 30k reservations
I'm about number 54,000, and I reserved mine over a month ago
I do food delivery and aptera will be dope for me.
They are called Amazon "Flex Drivers"
They are just like you said and the Aptrea will change the game for Last Mile Contractors
Still a bit pricey for a first car unless you have a better job than most of us and not the only car for a family of more than two (or likely to be more than two in a few years), but as a second car or for the financially secure single person, what is not to like? No it will not "win" if it gets hit by one of the giant vehicles that Detroit loves to sell, but neither will anything in the cheap or fun categories.
30 mile round trip commute. Job provides free charging if I ever need to. It was a no brainer decision. Even invested.
100% agree
unless somehting ha changed .... the 400 mpc(harge) is 25900, not 29000. Steve Fambro may have mispoke in his recent interview. The web site still says the 25900 price.
Sorry that was the cheapest version, the 250 mpc one. Whoops!
@@danielcrotty8141 And it is very unrealistic to think that they can keep the pre-inflation prices.
Last mile delivery: The Wuling E10 mini van. Costs 4000 $. Still better for this task than the Aptera motorcycle.
2 Wulings side by side are smaller than the Aptera. Having a weight of under 600kg without batteries, it registers as L7e-CU. Like a Quad, no need for safety features of a car (same for Aptera). You get at least 6 of these Light-Cargo Vans for one Aptera.
I have 3 kids and a partner. I’m going to buy one as commuter car, my partner has a larger car and the oldest will be driving by the time it comes out. I don’t need all the seats.
At last, full final stop. Ouf!😀
This IS a niche market, and those of us who have ordered one are GLAD, it is not for everyone and that is fine. See ya as we drive past the pumps !!!!
Donn't guess you have noticed... Half of my Amazon packages arrive out the trunk of some guys car.
Dude you are visionary. Is see a startup in your future.
Granted, Aptera does have "stick it to the oil man" appeal. It is a motorcycle that tries to be a car. Some will be used for commutes, but why do I need to buy another 30k vehicle when Nissan Leaf is still cheaper and I can take my 2 kids and dog along for a ride? I am personally getting a RWD Model 3 as it is the car that fits my family and lifestyle with all the safety and rage of a CAR. Money is tight now days and once novelty wears off I might pick one up used for fun but not at full retail. Oh, and solar charging is more of a gimmick if you want to USE the vehicle - how many miles do you think a delivery person puts on the car in a day? I am sure it is more than 40. So you still need to charge it in most cases.
No one (probably) is telling YOU that you need to buy one. We all have different needs, and Aptera is a niche vehicle for sure. However when you said "Money is tight now days" you put your finger on the reason for many of us.
Aptera uses perhaps a third of the power of other vehicles to travel the same distance, and although you may still need to charge it, the solar means not as frequently or as long.
If you buy an MG4 instead of the Tesla, you would even have enough money left to buy a decent solar array for your garage incl. batteries.
@@vic321344 Good luck Stelantis reviving a classic brand! But for the money and availability I would take Tesla any day.
@@alternatereality7713 What Stellantis? The MG4 is produced by chinese SAIC. They already build BEVs under this brand for several years.
@@vic321344 oh, even better. Once they become available I’ll check them out. Aptera though at least looks cool.
This will kill in the Bahamas
Update: 36k pre-orders and counting…
Pizza 🍕 delivery
If they can proof that they follow the UN/ECE rules for pedestrian safety i guess they could sell a few in Europe. Maybe. If they are cheap enough.
What is UN/ECE and what are their rules?
They cannot proof pedestrian safety because of the front wheels. And the cannot be registered in europe because the Aptera motorcycle is too wide.
Next regulation would be ECE R100 REV2 for safety of electric batteries. Aptera has no chance of passing them. Because the battery is completely built inside the drivers cell.
Your teenager.
Everyone complaining that people that don't have driveways won't be able to charge their electric cars
Aptera:
Reminds me of the Elio. Don’t charge your LFP battery to 100%.
Won’t use an LFP, at least that is the plan at the moment…
They use ancient NMC Samsung cells they manually weld together into a battery pack. You should just use these cells between 20% and 80%.
I keep saying that the Aptera with be the new VW Bug. It fills the same niche.
Also every environmentally conscious person the world over, I want one for sure.
And all guys who need to sleep in their vehicle.
I want to believe but
Keep doing your due diligence. I talked to the company directly and also some of their partners and suppliers such as Elaphe, before I was in. No regrets, even though it is not a sure thing yet.
Keep on believing. And like every good believer: Buy stocks and convince others of your believe.
I think they at the nail on the head with the concept of this vehicle. Unfortunately, I am concerned that their timeline on production might be shortly followed by Teslas release of an ultra efficient vehicle. I do think that they will beat Tesla to production, but if tesla builds a similar vehicle (low price, high efficiency) I think that’s some serious competition
A smaller/cheaper 4-seat Tesla would eat into most automaker’s marketshare, but the Aptera concept is still way more efficient than what it seems Tesla is proposing and without the solar. But someone must be eying copying Aptera, I would think…
I, along with the Aptera founders, are hoping that other companies follow their lead in developing efficient, affordable vehicles. Making money is not the only reason they are doing this, only a necessary part of it.
@@n.brucenelson5920 agreed. Consumers will greatly benefit from apteras existence and development of this form factor. That being said, I think their long term potential as a company will be greatly determined by their capacity to compete.
@@KylePapili I think so, too. Their second planned 4 door, 5 passenger sedan will be direct competition, and have tooling costs an order of magnitude less expensive than what Tesla is doing now.
@@n.brucenelson5920 I think it’s premature to speculate on their tooling costs for a 2nd generation vehicle when we have yet to see volume production of a first generation vehicle. Similarly, we have not yet seen Tesla’s ability to mass manufacture this form factor.
All speculation at this point. Three-wheeled vehicles have never been particularly successful.🤞🏽
@@TailosiveEV Not true that 99% of your content is speculation. Just saying that three-wheeled vehicles have never been successful. Maybe the Aptera will be.
I want an Aptera real bad because you don't need to plug in
So you dont want to drive it?
It is a motorcycle legally, it cannot be registered in most other legislations outside US. Its wider than a Hummer H1. It has no trunk, just a packet shelf. Its a guillotine in case of a hard brake. In some legislations you have to wear a helmet.
Buy a small van or an mg4, its much cheaper for delivering small amounts of goods. And 2 doors mean: Its a deathtrap in case of an accident.
And it still does not exist. Even the latest Gamma turns out to be just a mockup quickly banged together for a show.
How many shares of Aptera stock does he own?
He has answered. Next!
Yeee
Clearly you don't know the Uber market. Many of their drivers are so poor they have to rent their vehicle, judging by the number of cheap car rental ads on Facebook Marketplace. Aptera can't compete with rental of a 10yo vehicle that has already been amortised to $2k value by private use. I can see it being very popular with retirees (ex-hippie types) who would use it as a shopping trolley once a fortnight.
A bunch of small niche markets still equals a niche market. The cheaper Arcimoto would be a better fit for many of the usages you described. I like the Aptera, but it's a niche market and relatively expensive for what you get. With all the new, cheaper EVs planned to hit the market in the next 2-3 years I'm worried they have missed their window.
Daily commuter is not a niche. I see in many companies parking lots , smaller cars and SUVs then at the mall more pickups , large SUVs, and minivans. I do that now myself. It is a two car strategy. All vehicles serve a niche. A large 7 seater SUV or four four pickup is terrible choice for a daily commute, too expensive to buy and operate and it’s lumbering and difficult to park. Not many two seaters expect luxury sport coupes.
@@stanhry Everything smaller than an SVU can be a daily commuter. That's like saying it's in the vehicle niche. Hybrids and small EVs are perfectly suitable as daily commuters and can typically fit four. If you don't need a four seater, the Solo and FUV are cheaper and arguably more practical.
Is this actually safe?
It should be very very safe:) They still have to do some more crash testing though if I'm not mistaken.
They insist it's monocoque cell is designed to be safer than any other vehicle ever made till now.
No, its a deathtrap in case of an accident. It wont pass even the simplest safety regulations for cars. But beeing a motorcycle the Aptera does not have to.
@@joelroth3651 how do you avoid pot holes? If you have 3 wheels all different widths I I I, what do you do when your wheel blows out?
@@timchow924 honestly I'm not totally sure. They have videos on how to change a tire and say it should be as easy as a normal vehicle. If it's not, that is something that would suck but it's a unique vehicle so I assume not everyone will want one..
But it's not in production
True. None of the new vehicles to be introduced next year are in production. However, I will likely be driving mine before the first Cybertruck ships.
@@n.brucenelson5920 Possible. But Cybertruck has a factory, raw materials, tools...
@@Dularr Well, so does Aptera, and some components are already in pilot production, such as solar panels and battery packs.
@@Dularr What does it matter if you don't have a product in market. It's the same as not having them.
@@adimchionyenadum2962 it's not about product. It's about production. As Elon said, designing is easy, production is hard.
I just saw a video made by "Aussie Ideas Man." What a tool! He's calling Tom and Chris charlatans and other names. I don't know why he is so vitriolic! I just hope the production schedule holds. Maybe trolls like him will disappear!
The Aptera is a bit unconventional, but in an EV industry disruptive way -- just like Tesla was a decade ago. Since the solar-assist can provide up to 40 miles/day, over double my daily commute, I may never have to charge it until trip time. Aptera makes so much sense, I just reserved one and invested.
Nobody knows how much charge the Aptera solar really provides. Even the Gamma is only a mockup and not functional. So no real life data available. Aptera just makes promises.
This video is giving me strong FUV commentary from 2019. A little worrying
It looks very dangerous and unsafe to be in. If you get into an accident in America with that thing you’re done! Might have some use in Third World countries or countries that don’t care about safety or something. I wonder how good it does in the snow ha ha ha
True! Even more popular overseas in city with small street. There is not anything likes this out there.
Aptera will succeed as the demand is there. Even though i have the Cybertruck on order i still am thinking of buying this car.
This car looks good, it looks like a plane. No doubt about that. It may be nice to drive too
Beside that:
-it's huuuge, but has only 2 seats
-the solar charge is like the aerodynamic shape in the real world is basically worthless,
- a lil crash with those exposed motors will make you chance one almost for sure (I still don't get why they didn't put a single in the back wheel)
You guys remember the carver? The leaning car-ish? That one was as cool as the apterra and guess what happened to that one... dead
Edit: everybody over 60 will struggle too much to enter in that. It could be a good starting point to built some special vehicle indeed as you said
Regarding your edit - I am in my 70s and have ridden in one. I found that I could back up to the seat with my butt, sit straight down, and pivot to swing my legs in - not hard compared to several other standard cars I have owned."
Also, what "real world" do you live in that makes the aerodynamic shape basically worthless?
When braking there is a weight transfer to the front of the vehicle. With an ABS/traction control that senses wheel slip and adjusts 32 times per revolution, or about every 2.5" of tread travel, Aptera has far more control and can stop faster with 2WD rather than only one in the back.
Carver is still being produced. The website is still active.
@N. Bruce Nelson I'd say this car will mostly be used in the cities so it won't go faster than 30, and so I assume aerodynamic isn't that important.
Buuuut…can they scale?
If the demand warrants it, they can build more small factories. The tooling costs are minuscule compared to what it costs Tesla, for instance. More molds can be easily and cheaply 3D printed.
@@TailosiveEV And they are not just a Munro customer. Sandy invested $150k+😮
Three wheeled vehicles hit every pothole.
You can still dodge potholes with a 3-wheeled vehicle. The tire treads don't span the entire width of the vehicle, they are actually fairly narrow. If you do hit one, it is a single hit only, not the inevitable front/back double hit that you get in a 4-wheeled vehicle.
Except if you hit it in this, you’ll probably crash
@@timchow924 No, quite the opposite. Because the vehicle is very light, the impact forces are much less when encountering a pothole. Torque vectoring and extreme stability due to the wide stance helps ensure you can maintain control on extreme terrain.
It actually handles potholes better than four wheelers.
@@adimchionyenadum2962 No, it does not. The heavy wheels will react with heavy force on the dampers. So the whole vehicle will jump.
Another market is teenagers, at least for parents that are willing to spend 25k on a new car for their kid, or when they start moving to the used market.
Super low maintenance, super low cost, and unlike most EVs, if your kid gets stranded somewhere with an empty battery, they can wait for it to change itself
Parents wont buy a deathtrap Aptera for their kids. They could buy a real car like the mg4, that is cheaper and safe.
@@vic321344 how much of a death trap it is really is not known yet until the preform some more final highway safety tests
I'm very curious to see how those turn out also
@@louisjov In the case of a crash the first thing that will ripp of is the front wheel. So the Aptera will turn upside down. You see this kind of behaviour in equally shaped aeroplane cells with outrigged wheels.
In this position you cannot open the doors and you cannot escape through the windows (snake man Nelson might). The battery is completely installed in the driver cell. So if the battery catches fire, the toxic fumes cannot escape and you have to digest them.
@@vic321344Maybe!
That could happen, I hope it doesn't, but it definitely could
We'll have to see what the results of the crash tests are