The Premade Trials feat. Goku Black in Dragon Ball The Breakers Season 6

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  • @Nayliously
    @Nayliously 6 місяців тому +67

    I don't usually commentts on video but just to stay that I love this concept, it will be really cool testing all the raiders against premaades to have the most objective raider tier list, keep it up 💪

  • @CaineTSF
    @CaineTSF 6 місяців тому +22

    4:22 the Ba clutch is crazy 😭

  • @yllowturtl
    @yllowturtl 6 місяців тому +27

    Watching this vid I realize a lot of raiders lose to premades by overestimating them/being too scared. Even ONE kill is massive against them so FOCUS THAT ONE PLAYER. If u just fought against them and they Jaco ship? CHASE THEM TO THE ENDS OF THE MAP IF NECESSARY.
    F.E in this video Iron makes the mistake (and most raiders do) of not chasing hard a player that has 0 change after they escape, as if it's not worth it... BUT IT IS. There's a reason the other teammates try to distracxt u form chasing them... CUZ THEY'RE A GUARANTEED KILL.
    And camping is morally correct with cheessy premades, or at least tunneling. Cuz they will ALWAYS push for a revive.

    • @super_kami_dende
      @super_kami_dende 6 місяців тому +6

      Raiders shouldn't have to play perfect to win games. While you can get a confirmed kill chasing someone to the ends of the earth you're wasting time and allowing the rest of the team to get Keys and supplies. Not to mention with IT being a skill in this game there's no guarantee you're gonna trap the survivor and there's a higher chance they'll be across the map before you can catch them. Overestimating is an overstatement, it's just Raiders don't have time to chase one player when they have to worry about the STM being out within the first 3 minutes.

    • @Heavenrashi
      @Heavenrashi 6 місяців тому

      I bet you were upset when they introduced anti camp in DBD.

    • @yllowturtl
      @yllowturtl 6 місяців тому +1

      @@Heavenrashi have never played that and by no means I’m a camper, but against Chessy premades I know they’ll push for a revive so why can’t I cheese myself?

    • @yllowturtl
      @yllowturtl 6 місяців тому +2

      @@super_kami_dende well of course its situational, I’m referring to cases like that one Puar that was always escaping using IA + Jaco Ship. He didn’t have IT cuz he already used all of his skills but Iron let him get away by not focusing him.
      And I agree that raiders shouldn’t have to play perfectly but sadly this is the meta and premade a won’t go easy on u so why go easy on them?

    • @MikeXeno365
      @MikeXeno365 6 місяців тому +6

      SHOCKER YOU CAN'T ESCAPE ME I'LL CHASE YOU DOWN TO THE ENDS OF THE EARTH!

  • @josecriollo6976
    @josecriollo6976 6 місяців тому +27

    Moral of the story raiders are still weak to jumpings

    • @shadowdragonlord2295
      @shadowdragonlord2295 6 місяців тому +4

      @@josecriollo6976
      Yes but depending on level and skill it's a risky tactic.
      Like my first Buu match of this season. Still as Spopovich I chased a survivor into a cave and got jumped but not only did I survive, I got the energy I needed using Yamu and made it back to Buu's ball with just a hit or two away from losing with two or three survivors still after me.
      After that I was pretty much dominating the match. I got the dragon balls, Kid Buu, destroyed the STM and ETM as well
      But my second Freeza game of the season didn't go well for me. I got jumped three times but the last one I managed to almost kill the level 4 while also fighting off the other survivors.

    • @josecriollo6976
      @josecriollo6976 6 місяців тому +3

      @@shadowdragonlord2295 first one is totally survivor skill issue, you just saw 50% of iron's healthbar disappear in less than 5 seconds in a cave jumping

    • @ero-senninsama1734
      @ero-senninsama1734 6 місяців тому

      ​@@josecriollo6976 yes, but iron was a level 2 as well. You are not supposed to be strong at level 2

    • @AnonymousGamerDB
      @AnonymousGamerDB 6 місяців тому +1

      I'm sure iron saw it but the guy popped the soda and during that animation Goku hit him so memories of battle kicked in and he had instant power it looked like he was hacking it was so quick pause

  • @johndoe-dj3iy
    @johndoe-dj3iy 6 місяців тому +5

    even without supplies they have d changes up the a$$

  • @rev0lve638
    @rev0lve638 6 місяців тому

    4:19 I SWEAR he says 'you really think that little shit-'
    *Ba Smash*

  • @Loneranger419
    @Loneranger419 6 місяців тому +3

    With every video I watch on the breakers it makes me more and more upset that I cannot for the life of me ever get into a match now, When I try to it either looses connection to the server or it takes 30+ min to find enough players to play just for it to say that the lobby doesn’t exist anymore. I just wanna play the game I bought

  • @commenter178
    @commenter178 6 місяців тому

    easily the best series you have done keep it up

  • @HebiSaru21
    @HebiSaru21 6 місяців тому +12

    Just need to *NOT* let survivors see who the Raider is until AFTER the count down ends, like in season 1

    • @shadowdragonlord2295
      @shadowdragonlord2295 6 місяців тому +6

      They should at least bring that back for Rank matches.

    • @HebiSaru21
      @HebiSaru21 6 місяців тому +2

      @@shadowdragonlord2295 I hate rank so much, it's meaningless since I could be Z2 and unless I'm using ETM I'm de-ranking
      I did over 200 matches, I never once got in a match with teammates where everyone's above S2, most I had was 2 other Z ranks,

    • @shadowdragonlord2295
      @shadowdragonlord2295 6 місяців тому +2

      @@HebiSaru21
      I hate it too, mostly cause it's not optional and most Z ranks are premades teams. It also sucks that we all don't just start at the lowest rank.

    • @HebiSaru21
      @HebiSaru21 6 місяців тому

      @@shadowdragonlord2295 worse that nobody can go BELOW A

    • @ChipsMcClive
      @ChipsMcClive 6 місяців тому +1

      It has to be an intentional design decision. If people couldn’t choose their build based on the raider, they wouldn’t try to have multiple builds, and subsequently wouldn’t spin gacha as much.

  • @hunterwalters7811
    @hunterwalters7811 24 дні тому

    bro last time I played raider they found all the keys in 30 seconds and I’m not even joking

  • @dragotech1234
    @dragotech1234 6 місяців тому +4

    So, people unironically want even more survivor nerfs just because they saw a premade win? For real, why do you want even more nerfs when solo queue already suffers a lot?
    So, should people like me suffer more because a premade that Iron actively asked to use meta stuff won?
    "It's a team game" Then give me teammates that actually want to help, that can assist me and not senzu feed!
    "You're not supposed to solo the raider" Again, give me teammates that actually listen to pings and help in a fight!
    "Raiders are supposed to be powerful" They are supposed to be powerful, not invincible. How many survivor nerfs and survivor buffs do we need?
    "Blame it on the premades" And can I actually do something to stop premades from doing what they are doing? They are coordinated and doing teamawork, when I'm stuck here without being able to do anything because solo queue is pure suffering.
    Ok, tell me, what can I do, as a solo survivor do, when I'm being paired with teammates who can't do anything, can't find keys, can't find civilians, do not open boxes and don't place keys nor work on the STM? What can I do? How much multitasking I must do for to compensate for what my teammates can't?
    Tell me, what else am I supposed to do when the raider hard tunnels me and wants to camp or proxy camp my body and my team run around like headless chickens? What can I do when I am stuck with new players and people who just picked the game recently?
    But yeah, let's nerf survivors and buff raiders even more, because that clearly stopped premades from destroying raiders, and that clearly made solo queue more enjoyable to solos and new players, right?

    • @ironcane
      @ironcane  6 місяців тому +5

      I think there should be a happy middle ground

    • @dragotech1234
      @dragotech1234 6 місяців тому

      @@ironcane I agree.

    • @dracothedragonhero683
      @dracothedragonhero683 6 місяців тому

      ​​@@ironcaneI feel like they should just remove Survivor Queue at this point..it feels like its the only way to remove Premades for good at this point.

    • @juanarciniegas7915
      @juanarciniegas7915 6 місяців тому

      Yeah as a player that just picked up the game recently and learning on my own. Solo queue is very difficult for some reason 😢

  • @avastellar
    @avastellar 6 місяців тому +1

    Ironcane is not a sweat raider. He didn't camp. He didn't tunneled. There are sweats survivors in that lobby. Premades are still strong. It's the solo q players that are nerfed.
    If you have a full team up, when STM comes up, you will lose

  • @holyelixir4580
    @holyelixir4580 6 місяців тому +2

    Any reason you never used AD in the 2nd premade match

  • @thegodofegg4132
    @thegodofegg4132 6 місяців тому +2

    I think the second they add that ssj4 last resort transformation survivors will stand a lil bit more of a chance even if it’s still a pay to win system

    • @johndoe-dj3iy
      @johndoe-dj3iy 6 місяців тому +6

      you mean raiders will stand even less of a chance

    • @Dominic13337
      @Dominic13337 6 місяців тому +1

      I think that's the most broken active skill so far, talk about power creep.

    • @WhoPutsThisStuffHere
      @WhoPutsThisStuffHere 6 місяців тому +4

      Just what survivor premades need. ANOTHER set of transformations to jump the raider with!! As if them able to cycle 3-4 rounds of transformations during STM phase wasn't enough!

    • @thegodofegg4132
      @thegodofegg4132 6 місяців тому

      I meant for when raiders do the level 2 strat, a pre-made on purpose not planting is different to having that teammate who plants the key while everyone one has level 1 dragon change and only 3 of them are actually available at the time

  • @sigalasstamatis8209
    @sigalasstamatis8209 6 місяців тому

    6:14 behold the strength of my.. kamehameehaa 😂

    • @Iongizmo1
      @Iongizmo1 5 місяців тому

      Good o'l reliable. The kamehamehaa! XD

  • @BoxStandard
    @BoxStandard 6 місяців тому

    Will this video possibly break my expectations perhaps!

  • @rozanslash
    @rozanslash 6 місяців тому +6

    This video proves survivors wernt nerfed hard enough

  • @alvarog8649
    @alvarog8649 6 місяців тому

    32:55 I am a Big GT fan that bought the game solely for baby and I don't have access to Jaco's.

  • @thunderpope9419
    @thunderpope9419 6 місяців тому

    I think if you want to do lvl 2 starts, you should pair it with camping. I know it's degenerate but if u come back to make sure they die, u won't deal with 7 members at the end and u get best of both worlds. But ultimately I think lvl 3 rosé is generally a better strat vs people who know what they're doing.

  • @WhoPutsThisStuffHere
    @WhoPutsThisStuffHere 6 місяців тому

    This really showcases the problem with the nerfs. Yeah Raider's got bit better chasing and evading with survivors getting nerfed hard on their own evasion. But all that did was made it way harder to play solo que and at worst nerfed the Unconscious Control spammers and people who chug sodas during transformations.
    This video alone shows they did not address Stun Spam, Super Spam, Using Melee animations (including raider beating up the survivor) to get super attacks in, Afterimage into Death Ball, combo, Jaco + Instant Rise escapes, and whatever exactly they are doing to refuel their transformations so fast. That last one proves what I feared too. Supplies helped but it was not crucial for premades to win.
    Worst part? I Unless rank brings people into full on sweat mode again then we probably won't see a raider buff or survivor nerfs anytime soon. Which can't blame them when random survivors are struggling hard with these current changes.

  • @grandsaga
    @grandsaga 6 місяців тому

    The premade fights are very entertaining.

  • @relampio
    @relampio 6 місяців тому +4

    UA-camrs against solo queuers = /insert raider/ is broken
    youtubers against a premade = ....
    when are we gonna learn that buffing the raider will only make the game worse for solo queuers?
    PREMADES should be nerfed

    • @l33tspaniard
      @l33tspaniard 6 місяців тому +2

      Oh this is a fascinating thought experiment.
      So raiders are high strength, low skill ceiling, meaning: it doesn’t take a good player to be an oppressive raider. Survivors are the opposite, low strength, high skill ceiling: victory as a survivor REQUIRES some combination of individual skill and overall team skill.
      But how in Dende’s name do you balance for that? Buffing the raider and/or nerfing the survivor just makes the power and/or skill gaps worse. How do you change the game in a way that rewards clever survivor play without trivializing the raider? How do you make the raider consistent and fun without brutalizing inexperienced players?

    • @JorjiCostava-papersplease
      @JorjiCostava-papersplease 3 місяці тому

      @@l33tspaniard Yeah, it's a struggle trying to balance a game like this. I feel like it requires a lot more extensive testing that the developers of this game simply do not have the resources to do or probably the manpower. Especially since this game is more or less dead overall and probably will get shut down after probably one more year.
      Which sucks because for all the flaws in Breakers, the concept is really cool to me. Being able to play as humans and non-combatants against terrifying threats like Cell or Freeza trying to survive is cool. Them making survivors able to transform and use abilities that are something a normal individual in Dragon Ball can't do really takes the immersion out of the experience.
      I guess the reasoning for those abilities and the transpheres was that they felt that the Raider would be too strong if the survivors were lore accurate. They'd all just get folded in a single hit. Which through a gameplay perspective is probably the right idea.

    • @newguy9341
      @newguy9341 2 місяці тому

      Here's a thought: make survivor kits randomised in a round. Let people select some to randomly be picked, but don't let them have full control of their build. This promotes being clever in the match rather than relying on spammable, uncountable builds.

  • @coolmoney6792
    @coolmoney6792 6 місяців тому +4

    Do you want to play with us again for a buu video 😃😃😃😃😃😃😃😃

  • @Jamstaro1
    @Jamstaro1 6 місяців тому

    I've faced Goku black doing the lvl 2strat. The only problem he had is he got his ass kicked for the attempt... He was way too passive early on and we were basically running rampant the entire match...

  • @True-Blue-Pikachu
    @True-Blue-Pikachu 6 місяців тому

    Did anyone have an Emergancy Transformation Device or whatever that starting skill is called on their kits? Maybe that's how some of them immediately transformed after getting hit?

  • @nicolashill8929
    @nicolashill8929 6 місяців тому

    The crazy thing is that I had to fight a lv 2 goku black that also camped. And I'm waiting for cell

  • @Ahappysandwich
    @Ahappysandwich 6 місяців тому +1

    7:42 Iron cane i like dragon ball the breakers too but not that much 🤨

  • @masonfurlong4837
    @masonfurlong4837 6 місяців тому

    Guarding bodies is a bitch move 💯 you did the right thing soldier 🫡

  • @buchabra2
    @buchabra2 6 місяців тому

    The baby video i thought that was a premade the whole time!?!

  • @danielbob2628
    @danielbob2628 3 місяці тому

    Wait, people who buy the game now can't get Jaco?
    That's actually really good to know.

  • @pseudonym7180
    @pseudonym7180 6 місяців тому

    It's crazy to me that you're always playing with KockZ. That person always Senzu throws my matches.

  • @ero-senninsama1734
    @ero-senninsama1734 6 місяців тому

    Great video. It just seems though that doing a lvl 2 strat against a premade its not a good idea.
    Your kit is not great (to deal with 7 prepared surviviors), you dont a lot of HP, and without destroying areas, taking survivors out of the match, and forcing the STM to come out, you are letting survivors dictate the pace of the match, and they will chip at your HP little by little.
    Yes, they might not have supplies. But if the STM doesnt come out earlier, they can pace the attacks rather well, specially with all the good skills

  • @ryujigoda3445
    @ryujigoda3445 6 місяців тому +1

    12:15 no skill how the fu*k is my life gone
    Look at this

  • @Timinator193
    @Timinator193 6 місяців тому

    Stuns are clearly balanced

  • @falknoether723
    @falknoether723 6 місяців тому +1

    It's unbelievable, there are still stupid and moronic "I revive myself"-Survivors! Everytime this happens, I could vomit. It doesn't make any sense. It's no use for the survivors, and the raider has one nuisance less. That's god damn egoistic and by principle I always report them. It's unlikely, they gonna be banned from this, but it makes me feel better.

    • @Ahappysandwich
      @Ahappysandwich 6 місяців тому +2

      to be fair most people ignore reviving teammates.

  • @AndersonWave17
    @AndersonWave17 6 місяців тому

    How do you even get away from 5 survivors D changed?

  • @Srvver
    @Srvver 6 місяців тому

    Bro you had an area destruction you sold harrrdddd

  • @terraancesanderswedvgettgo7393
    @terraancesanderswedvgettgo7393 6 місяців тому +5

    I dislike how people say raiders are using a lvl 2 strat when survivors keyrush raiders at lv 2 which what survivors supposed to do BTW. Survivors should not just let a raider evolve anyways. That's the freaking strat 🤦‍♂️🤦‍♂️🤦‍♂️🤦‍♂️

    • @shadowdragonlord2295
      @shadowdragonlord2295 6 місяців тому +2

      The clock doesn't stop when they're evolving so letting them do that during the STM just helps the survivors win.

    • @kelvincha5492
      @kelvincha5492 6 місяців тому +4

      that's what I thought as well whenever someone complains about level 2 supplies
      like dude you can't go "Keyrush now/fight him now, he's at his weakest while level 1/2"
      then turn 180° and say "level 2 strat too strong we can't get supplies"
      make up your mind

    • @terraancesanderswedvgettgo7393
      @terraancesanderswedvgettgo7393 6 місяців тому

      @@kelvincha5492 even with supplies Nerf dragon changes still come out of nowhere. Then it's 7 against one while stm is out like WTF you guys really thought leaving a single survivor alive is a good idea 🤦‍♂️

    • @terraancesanderswedvgettgo7393
      @terraancesanderswedvgettgo7393 6 місяців тому

      @@shadowdragonlord2295 they don't even need to do that with all the good skills that can be ran

    • @shadowdragonlord2295
      @shadowdragonlord2295 6 місяців тому +1

      @@terraancesanderswedvgettgo7393
      It depends, if the STM is out and almost activated and you're one kill away from evolving then you'll lose precious seconds.

  • @shadowdragonlord2295
    @shadowdragonlord2295 6 місяців тому

    I have to ask: How common is cheating/hacking in Breakers cause a few hours ago I was trying to use my break strike but I had to press it repeatedly before it activated. I checked out the controller and it works fine, so now I'm wondering if it was a glitch or a hack and if I'm just being paranoid.

  • @holyelixir4580
    @holyelixir4580 6 місяців тому

    Man rip even premades gotta deal with Senzu Feeders

  • @TheSuperf12
    @TheSuperf12 6 місяців тому +2

    You should do it again but without doing level 2 strat

    • @wild4934
      @wild4934 6 місяців тому

      Would probably just make it harder

    • @TheSuperf12
      @TheSuperf12 6 місяців тому

      @@wild4934 would it? I guess them getting supplies is a big help but i always thought most raiders benefit from the level up especially since most get either a heal or extra assistance at the level up... in my very limited and small experience.. the level 2 strat only helps when you can afford in keeping the survivors at level 2 or below.. but in here most of them were even level 3 without shenron or anything so supplies wouldn only help them with staying at a lower cooldown because of the sodas more than the level ups imo

    • @wild4934
      @wild4934 6 місяців тому +1

      @TheSuperf12 goku black doesn't heal till level 4, and considering how difficult it was for him to down survivors it would be way harder with supply's and transpheres

    • @WhoPutsThisStuffHere
      @WhoPutsThisStuffHere 6 місяців тому +2

      @@TheSuperf12 I personally found that I did better going lvl 3 then trying to stay lvl 2 but there's times where it just makes it sticky worse for you. It also depends on the premades too. If they run full cheese like this, giving them lvl 3 Super Transphere Trunks might be a death sentence.

    • @TheSuperf12
      @TheSuperf12 6 місяців тому +1

      @@WhoPutsThisStuffHere yeah same with broly for me, before the survivor nerfs, people were saying to avoid fights so that you dont level up as quickly and give them transpheres, but i was more successful with going full agressive and leveling up quicker. there are these niche cases where you wish you could have played more passive and the healing would've helped but in most cases the aggressiveness is more rewarded than the passiveness.

  • @highchurro1545
    @highchurro1545 6 місяців тому +4

    And survivors need the dodge still? 😭😭

  • @super18101
    @super18101 6 місяців тому

    W series, hopefully there will be freiza next

  • @killaxhooks
    @killaxhooks 6 місяців тому +7

    Beast iron is real

    • @Suola345.
      @Suola345. 6 місяців тому +2

      Good Job you are the first

  • @nxgg7829
    @nxgg7829 6 місяців тому

    The dude in the chat saying he should be camping is lame asf, imagine promoting a cheap strat

  • @AndersonWave17
    @AndersonWave17 6 місяців тому

    I don't see why you wouldn't body camp and prioritize eliminating them at lv 2

  • @YamadaDesigns
    @YamadaDesigns 6 місяців тому

    They need to nerf premades specifically.

  • @default_liver1641
    @default_liver1641 6 місяців тому

    7:44 yo…😰

  • @Ugur6626
    @Ugur6626 6 місяців тому

    Raider need to do more damage

  • @JoseLuisMartinez-i1b
    @JoseLuisMartinez-i1b 6 місяців тому +8

    Level 2 strat is op only if you now how to play as a raider

    • @Suola345.
      @Suola345. 6 місяців тому +3

      Yeah but goku black who is the best one for it has bad ki blast

    • @JoseLuisMartinez-i1b
      @JoseLuisMartinez-i1b 6 місяців тому +2

      True

    • @shadowdragonlord2295
      @shadowdragonlord2295 6 місяців тому

      ​@@Suola345. Doesn't his super make up for that though?

    • @karbyboi8489
      @karbyboi8489 6 місяців тому +1

      ​@@shadowdragonlord2295It doesn't cause you have to combo it. Goku black does good damage on combos but that's really it. His damage lacks and his ki blasts being countered is brutal. Survivors in premades are going to be more aggressive and abuse that

    • @super_kami_dende
      @super_kami_dende 6 місяців тому +2

      The fact raiders have to rely on this strat to win speaks volumes of the state of the game

  • @boot-4704
    @boot-4704 6 місяців тому

    Do Cell next!

  • @looney1283
    @looney1283 6 місяців тому

    And here we go again... lol XD 16:55 28:00 37:35

  • @Srvver
    @Srvver 6 місяців тому +1

    Bro your ass at finding survivors 💀💀💀 they’re literally in front of your face and you fly off

    • @ironcane
      @ironcane  6 місяців тому +3

      Sometimes it's not worth chasing, Sometimes they're intentionally baiting

    • @Srvver
      @Srvver 6 місяців тому +1

      @@ironcane my bad I meant civilians,there was a lot you missed when you were destroying the buildings

    • @ironcane
      @ironcane  6 місяців тому +1

      Fair enough but here I was intentionally staying level 2

  • @rayyaan123
    @rayyaan123 6 місяців тому +4

    Ironcane w UA-camr

  • @oblivionsdad5945
    @oblivionsdad5945 6 місяців тому

    Hey James, love the vids and streams bro! Please keep doing the private lobby vs. premades, they’re super fun to watch (and you seem to enjoy yourself more during them)

  • @cjward72
    @cjward72 6 місяців тому

    I ❤ Ironcane 🥰

  • @YamadaDesigns
    @YamadaDesigns 6 місяців тому

    RAIDERS ARE NOT OP! I REPEAT, RAIDERS ARE NOT OP!

  • @speedygenix5299
    @speedygenix5299 6 місяців тому

    Silent clap go again

  • @Dominic13337
    @Dominic13337 6 місяців тому

    You're goated with the break strike combo I can never hit that so consistently

  • @relampio
    @relampio 6 місяців тому

    yeah , keep complaining about survivors nerf

    • @dragotech1234
      @dragotech1234 6 місяців тому +1

      I will because my teammates are.always new players.

  • @super_kami_dende
    @super_kami_dende 6 місяців тому +1

    Yeah, definitely not coming back until they nerf survivor skills. The game is literally unplayable as raider and I'm not trying to sweat in a non ranked environment.

    • @dragotech1234
      @dragotech1234 6 місяців тому +1

      Also unplayable as a solo survivor.

  • @usehackenplayz6529
    @usehackenplayz6529 6 місяців тому

    The lvl 2 strat is bad imo

    • @sznobu
      @sznobu Місяць тому

      😂😂😂

  • @Suola345.
    @Suola345. 6 місяців тому +3

    Hi

  • @ninjabros6282
    @ninjabros6282 6 місяців тому

    @ironcane Hey I'm just gonna say it tho watch season 7 they actually now start nerfing Stuns and Super Attack Damage and what not but not cause of us mind y'all but the fact that it was on a list of things they were gonna nerf anyways just make Raiders as fun as possible at the cost of all the survivor-base just wanting to quit playing The Breakers and moving on to better games like the upcoming Sparking Zero
    It's just facts dude this game regardless of what we do is cooked 😮‍💨😓

    • @ero-senninsama1734
      @ero-senninsama1734 6 місяців тому +1

      As long as there are Breakers creators, there will be Breakers players.