2023 Proton Saga 1.3L Standard Manual 车主心得 /// 买手排车我后悔了吗？
Вставка
- Опубліковано 6 жов 2024
- #proton #saga #protonsaga #sagamc2 #vvt #manual #sagamanual #savethemanuals #review
Track: KILLA - Retro Love [NCS Release]
Music provided by NoCopyrightSounds.
Watch: ncs.lnk.to/retr...
Free Download / Stream: ncs.io/retrolove
Track: Josh Rubin - Surrender [NCS Release]
Music provided by NoCopyrightSounds.
Watch: ncs.lnk.to/surr...
Free Download / Stream: ncs.io/surrender
Track: Lost Sky - Dreams [NCS Release]
Music provided by NoCopyrightSounds.
Watch:
• Lost Sky - Dreams | NCS - Copyright F...
Free Download / Stream: ncs.io/DreamsYO
![2024 Proton Saga vs Perodua Bezza|RM45k 預算, 第一輛新車, 怎麼選? 購買前看這期影片絕不後悔! [ENG BM subtitles]](http://i.ytimg.com/vi/pYNi92nbCAw/mqdefault.jpg)
![2024 Proton Saga vs Perodua Bezza|RM45k 預算, 第一輛新車, 怎麼選? 購買前看這期影片絕不後悔! [ENG BM subtitles]](/img/tr.png)
Bro, i just bought mc2 auto. Feeling regret not buying mc2 manual after watching your video. Really satisfying driving experience using manual transmission.
You can buy another MC2 manual once your financial permit, nothing wrong if you bought the MC2 auto as there's several equipment that were absent between Standard MT and Standard AT such as 2 charging pot at the back, front interior light and boot light. Also, safety features like ESC, Traction Control and Hill Start Assist available in all Saga auto variant can't retrofit outside.
During Traffic jam your legs will become tired if using manual !
Thanks for reviewing this car. It makes me not regret buying it. The ETA of my car is 30/11. I hope everything goes well. Please continue making more videos like this since there aren't many people reviewing cars like you 😊
Congrats🎉 Enjoy your new car😎
Just make sure nothing happens to it as any repair time by proton could take months. just letting you know
Thank you for making this video. It's really hard to find someone who review this saga std manual. Really appreciate.
记得多拍proton的视频 manual saga best!!!!
Real man always choose manual because its fun to drive...new car with manual gear so hard to find nowadays...only some perfomance car still produce it
Keep up the good work. I used to drive manual kenari for 14 years before change to Myvi lagi best 1.5 auto. Cannot tahan the traffic at Penang already. Still miss the manual change gear feels
Tq for this video.. we plan to buy this car soon😊
Update on 20 July 2024.. suda pakai saga manual mc2 skrg ni.. senang juga drive sebab clutch lembut.. tak penat pun masa jem👏🏻👏🏻
Tahniah mantap bro
两个月前看了你的影片后决定把 Bezza booking cancel 掉，然后下定了 saga standard manual
两个月后的今天终于提车了。提车后的想法是，庆幸当时看到你的影片而做出了最适合我的决定。
恭喜你买到了适合自己的车，我相信Saga manual不会让你失望
saya pun suka manual juga,maintenance senang ekonomik n semua kedai workhop achong pun boleh repair
suka tengok ada lagi anak muda yang passionate pasal driving experience kereta. Lagi2 kereta yang dalam julat harga marhaen macam ni. Sebab tak banyak dah kerata manual transmission yang ditawarkan dalam pasaran msia. Passion kita sama bro. Terima kasih untuk video review yang penuh maklumat ni. Subscribed!
Saya juga berasa pelik, kawan saya semua memilih kereta auto. Lagipun sebahagian drpd mereka ambil lesen DA.. Kata kereta manual susah nak bawa tapi saya ok je.
Saga isThe Best 😊
Bruh, i was working with Proton before. I think exactly as you did. Very recommended to go Perodua for AT, but Proton still have the upper hand on MT. As one of ex-Proton , I myself still choosing Saga MT as the top of the wishlist. Lack of interior features but, no doubt it doesnt lost the classic touch needed on handling and driving.
要定时定刻照顾brake fluids，还有做clutch bleeding.不然clutch pump很容易漏油坏掉。我也是 Preve 车主。
我也是PREVE手牙，換過一次clutch pump
不過新的MC2的gearbox換成了中國之舟gearbox 不懂cluch pump是不是在外面 外面的話會比較耐.
Look much better without the plastic wheel cap. Look clean as long as it gloss black especially after washing and tire waxing👍🏻
虽然感觉你讲话很怪，但还是被你对车的真诚打动。加油
谢谢你的支持，我会尽量改进
Thanks for the English subtitles, because I couldn't understand that much Mandarin.
我看完因为用心做😊saga稳定性有安全感从内望向外清晰的角度设计到位，内外缐条平衡🎉圆位不会太多😊整体好过对手很多😅哗凸凹多不一定好看😂我相信还是有年轻一代希望保留手牙车.🎉改装得很好❤🎉认真的制作🎉❤
😂🎉谢谢你加油🎉😂
之前原本也是要买一台手牙的Saga的可惜等了接近一年车都出不到给最后买了自动牙。排除加速这方面，脚轻些(110km/h+-)这台车一桶油RM50可以跑350-400km算很不错了。跟奔驰C系一桶RM100+-跑700-800km大同小异。别拿Bezza来比较确实是台无可挑剔的好车。
谢谢你的分享。其实你分享的内容，懂得享受操控感的朋友才明白😂
我其中一人，还留着2010的persona auto 。multilink操控感就是享受。
你是也是住新山哦😲 我是住Mount Austin一代的
我也经常飞下Kota Tinggi的这条路跑跑下😂 晚上就危险一点 没有路灯又暗 路又很湾下 以前很多车祸就是在那个湾Buang
Savvy1.2L真的好驾很多 我之前驾过 手牙的真的一流 只是输在空间很小
驾起来因为没有屁股 真的操控很太多 比Axia好10条街 我现在也是Axia 2017车主
Savvy是整个车身很稳 过路不平 不会很像车架要散掉这样 Axia会😂
Savvy Top Speed 160这样都是感觉车超定重心很低因为车也很矮
Axia Top Speed 150 车身就会很浮 可能因为比例关系车顶高 里面就高一点 但是就 不定 扫Corner 那些就输Savvy 感觉好像要翻这样😂
不过已经算ok了 毕竟只是小车 买菜车😅 。
engine有kacau吗
Proton的操控是真的好
我有一輛Arena 操控一流
最后一批persona manual车主报道
#manual is the best
大佬，想了解persona手牙平稳驾驶100kmh的时候牙箱转速（rpm）是多少，想看看后面入手❤❤
Nothing beat manual Real Driving Experience
Manual adalah terbaik dapat merasai keseronokan permanduan... Terbaik bro 👍
这辆车真的gugulatlat,市场上很难买到1.3新手排档的车。加油，继续拍这些manual video,我会观看的
will you do an updated video of your Saga? I'm planning on buying the standard manual. Would love to see more of the Saga content.
Sure. As my saga will be one year old soon, I will do a new video for her. What kind of content are you interested in? I will try my best to make it.
@@l.k.y.6929 Maybe a differences after a year? Any problem with the car if there is one. But I'd appreciate if you do any content with your Saga because it's hard to find a content with a manual Saga.
I love manual car more than auto 😍😍
然后可以改进排气系统，点火系统，anti-roll bar，避震组合，高性能轮胎轮圈，高性能刹车系统，赛车桶椅，赛车波棍和方向盘，最后最重要是墨色车镜tinted😊
手牙最好！最耐用！
非常好的评价，我现在开始想买车了
gearbox manual baru ni clutch pump duduk luar atau dalam bro? kalau blm luar senang maintenance. flx vvt dalam kena turun gearbox. Clutch boleh adjust panjang/pendek tak like cable clutch?
I have been driving Proton 1.3 Manual (First Generation) for more than 13 years. So Far, not much problem beside fuel efficiency is not so good compare to another local car brand. maintenance is lower than auto.
后面资讯满满😮
Tq for the info shared. Learn many things from your explanation. And can see that you are really like car and drive them especially Proton. Plz do more video on the saga manual, your vlog or any modification. How about Genting drive?
再接再厲。
难得看到这么全面的手牙review
40分钟的影片，我居然从头看到尾一点也不觉得无聊！
“这才是我要看的review！！！”
拍多点 你的 proton saga
Nice video! From the way you operate and shift the gear shifter, I can see it is a much shorter throw and nicer shifter than earlier Proton model!
I've tried the earlier Iriz 1.3 manual, the shifter feels rubbery, disappointed, didn't buy that. And yeah, the 2008 Saga manual shifter is terrible, very long throw and vague shift gate.
The Saga VVT and MC1 don't differ much from the BLM; the Iriz is better, but the MC2 is astonishing. However, all of them are still better than Perodua's offerings
感谢分享，国产便宜手牙车就剩axia saga选择
Good review!👍
期待你也可以review一下新的Axia E Rahmah.
多做SAGA的视频。加油。
记得多拍saga manual，manual is da best
I think the problem you have with starting the car is a common saga issue from the 2016 VVT onwards.
For the Saga VVT it was the radio having parasitic power draw, eventually draining the battery completely. From what i can tell, charging the battery does make it less of an issue but definitely annoying.
Lets meet up if i ever go to JB
有没有车主改动力？ 想要学习
We went quite philosophical there
Nasib ada subtitle , auto subscribe
Lagu apa tu boss macam best jer bunyi bass
As salam hai terima kasih banyak atas reviewnya abg😂❤
Jelas sisi2 reviewnya satu persatu berbanding orang lain buat review nak cepat saja, abg ni bagus santai2 buat video terbaik boss❤😊
非常好的测评，你是先天车评圣体吗
Brother, personally which do you think more reliable MT or AT in the long run? Please give suggestions I want to buy one
Of course MT is more reliable
@@l.k.y.6929 Thanks very much, I already bought one armor silver mt, your video influenced my decision. No lie very fun to drive and got more personality than 4at.
@@Matt0ize Good to hear that. We have another Saga manual on the road now!
Hai bro.. u punya saga manual berapa monthly payment.. after saw ur video, teringin pulak nk beli saga vvt manual ni.. sebab sy memang pengguna tegar kete manual..
Kalau 3.6k untuk 10% deposit.
5 tahun: RM626
7 tahun: RM472
9 tahun: RM386
Full loan 9 tahun: RM430
@@l.k.y.6929 thanks for the info👍
Thanks for sharing. I m using LMST 07, previous owner converted MT to AT, since my car 17 years old and pressure from family wanted new car, I m so confused with saga mt at or Axia or the bezza.
iriz 1.6 手牙车主，开了9年，其实牙很好换，clutch 也很浅，很容易踩
看你换档换到很爽😂😂
如果塞车塞很久也是不行的吧？
请问当初你在选SAGE(M)的时候还有什么其他选择呢？如果有可以跟我交流分析har, 谢谢你
你现在的油耗高是因为你的引擎还没fully run in, once fully run in你的油耗会变得正常一点的😊
saga new 4AT 很有力啊，因为跑山路可以知道比 Bezza 有力
对，手牙没那么无聊，维修费也节省很多，同一款汽车手牙和自动来比，手牙比较省油一些等
全方面都很好，但劝退我的是油耗和所有座位车顶都没有门把手。。这个cut cost到很不合理啦，standard auto都有给
确实，这一点我忘记提起了。不过门把手有办法可以自己装。至于油耗只能说有得必有失。总会有一些不及对手的地方。好在Malaysia油价不是很贵
……我很喜欢manual车，驾了二十年的kancil都不舍得换，这几年想换车，可是一直都不考虑saga，因为我不喜欢有尾巴的车。结果看了你的 review……玛德，你说话虽然懒音很重，可是我竟然被你洗脑了，觉得saga manual 是我的理想车了。😂
Bro. Many thanks on the DRL response. Just got my manual today am. Anyway, I want to maintain my rim cover, but also want to spray it matte black. Problem is, the cover is very tight. Did you face any issues taking off yours, and would it be firm enough to put back on? I'm worried that after taking it off, paint it, and put it back on, it'll fly off the steel rim. Need your advice, please... Btw, I'm convinced by your video to get manual!🙏🏾🙏🏾🙏🏾
Yes, the cover is very tight and it is very tricky to take it off, just pull it hard with a towel. I did not put it back but I think it will still works well after you removed it as I did not see any damage made
其实手牙真的不错。就是现在越来越不出了。其实本地车更应该保留手压车款的。
Rindu nk bawak saga FL manual 😅 dah jual 😅
for the cvt / saga vvt 2016 i would say it actually quite good BUT depend on driver and how brave you are. i drive it so i know under 100kmh sure no power but after it got to 120 then u feel it. some people just hate it rev so hard but for me i dont give a sh!t hahahaha broke down repair then lenjan like there is no tomorrow haha BUT cvt is the mess hahah everytime need to find good shop that willing to service it haiyaa quite memenatkan
I'm sad that there is no more manual transmission in a car priced between 70k ~ 100k. It is either buy the lowest variant Axia, Bezza, Saga OR sports car priced above 200k
There are still manual car between 70k-100k. Such as the pick-up trucks, and also recon cars like Suzuki Swift Sport, Civic Hatchback, Corolla Sport at slightly higher price
saga manual should equipped with esc tcs alongside with abs
Daylight became signal is best.
I same with yours manual
My saga vvt cvt was original slow and lag
U hvnt try change exhaust n open pod
Im now very satisfied with my saga vvt cvt
我也是架花蝴蝶iswara手牙后塞车2～3小时对我来讲真没差auto我是真的不想要，话说这代是有多吃油呢，欢迎车主分享使用😊
如找二手的saga vvt 手牙, facelift前, MC1, MC2, 差别大吗?
机械层面上应该差不多，只是mc2换成中国牙箱而已。主要差距还是外观。我觉得价钱差距不大的话直接拿mc2比较好，不止年份比较新，换挡手感也好很多
@@l.k.y.6929不是getrag了？
@@Josh-vl1yi 对的，mc2不是getrag了。打开引擎盖可以看到株洲的logo
manual is the best!!!!!
其实不管什么车都有力的是看车主怎样去踩😂，saga auto在市区是真的没有什么力的可是上高速的时候就知道有没有力了😂
Axia 和市面上其他hatchback suv mpv等，如果没有power boot的话都是要从外面手动开的😂😂😂
只有sedan车款会有一个拉杆可以从里面打开😂😂😂
你去看myvi hrv等里面一样都是没有拉杆的，不是减配😂
学到新知识了😅其实我的重点应该要放在center lock。因为后面boot如果lock着一定要用锁匙去后面开，如果是乘客的行李在后面就需要司机熄火去后面开。这才是麻烦的地方。有center lock的车就没有这个问题。
👍
I am one of the 500 owner for Iriz 1.6 Premium manual 😂
Hey bro may i ask that what is the rpm of the iriz1.6 manual gearbox when it is 100 kilometers per hour.
@@李明俊-f6h 2500rpm at 5th gear
saga MC2 1.3就能拉到190km/h了 如果有1.5或1.6我肯定会拿😅
是Auto 還是manual
Auto可以去到190kmh
I love manual cars. Just would like to ask your opinion on Hyundai Elantra 1.6 Manual, have you ever given the chance to drive one? How was it? Cause I am torn between picking a second hand elantra manual or a New Saga Manual. Of course it depends on the condition of the 2nd car. But is Elantra good to drive and good buy in terms of value?
In my opinion, it really depends on what you want from the car. I have never driven a elantra manual but I think elantra manual is a really good bargain that you can get a c segment sedan with 6 speed manual just under 20k. However, elantra manual are very rare and you might need to take note about its maintenance cost, it would not be as cheap as its value. If I am going for a second hand manual c segment sedan, I would take Proton Preve or Proton Inspira which were well-known for their ride&handling. At the end of the day, I would only take elantra If I often travel for long distance due to its 6 speed transmission, 5 speed manual can be really noisy and annoying when you are going fast. There are no other c segment sedan with 6 speed manual under 20k. While I only suggest you to go for Saga if you prefer a new car and you want to keep it for really long time or even keep it for your children so they still can drive a manual after the manual cars are gone in the market, just like me.
@@l.k.y.6929 I think of inspira also. But scared of the maintenance costs. And heard of the clutch master/slave cylinder issues, i just don't know how much of a cost of repairing. I just want to buy a car that drive stick. Haha, I am fine with A segment or C segment. As long fun to drive and financially sound. I will go test drive on inspira, as for Elantra, dealer is a bit far for me to go over and test drive it. Saga, no manual available for test drive. I more prone to taking new car of Saga as it is worry free and I am the type tend to keep car to myself and never think of selling one.
@@l.k.y.6929 Again, I am sincerely thank you for your reply which really did help me in many ways.
@@cannaheng7879 I do look for the Inspira clutch pump issue solution previously, there is a permanent fix that somehow replace it with the Wira things, it costs around 3-4k with labour fee. After I read your reply, I think we have the same thought about getting the new car which I think the Saga is suitable for you. The Inspira definitely has more power, better handling and more aftermarket modification parts available, but the Saga just suits me better, it has everything I need and nothing I don't. I like how the car is so "kosong", the more kosong the car is. The less it costs for a long run. My conclusion is you should get a new&low-spec car if you made the decision to keep it for a really long time. These low-spec cars are basically bulletproof. Nowadays, people always look for the car with the best specifications available in the market, they want adas, more airbags, and more ambient lights, but they will soon be bored and change to a new car again and again. With these "kosong" cars however, I will never be bored, because I bought it for the manual transmission pure driving joy which you don't find in any modern cheap&new car anymore, not the features they keep on updating. No matter what features were added to any new budget car later on, I know there will never be any more manual transmission. So, I chose the Saga manual as my new car. She is irreplaceable and I will always love her.
number plate more expensice than the car ??
Bro. Mind sharing what brand did you used for your DRL/signal running light? Many thanks 🙏🏾🙏🏾🙏🏾
Ponyan
开着neo cps R3 manual，目前感觉良好
想了解一下他几千转100kmh因为想入手cps manual，本身是gen2 cps，但是是auto款，所以问一下平稳行驶的情况下neo cps manual 在100kmh的转速是多少❤❤
@@李明俊-f6h 3k
@@李明俊-f6h 3K rpm 左右，但是cps蛮耗油的 70块跑300km full city。下半年油价会起，你要考虑看看哦。
@@xiiaomiku 了解哈哈哈，cps确实不会省油，但是力水确实不输，gen2也是差不多的油耗70块 city drive 250-280左右，毕竟车比较重一点😂😂
@@李明俊-f6h 如果可以接受那就直接买罢了，neo的handling真的是这个价位你可以try到最好的了。不过我现在在等 saga mc3，希望还有manual
后门/后尾箱是已经有原装喇叭/灯电线吗？
没有哦，都被减配掉了
Org Desa Cemerlang ke bro? haha i drive Myvi lagi best manual 1.5 and yeah the gearing feel not as satisfied as Proton's manual gear changing.
Ye. Saya orang DC
手排将会很经典了, 毕竟如今的车都可以使用手机操控了!
Hi. U ask question about exhaust 4-2-1.
Ohh..now i know u are newbie about car.. Good.
Take care ur car carefully.
Ori exhaust come with Catalizer converter (inside engine bay)
4-2-1 exhaust system, u can search yTube about that. How to change n performance between ori n 421.
Better u just use stok ori standrd la.. Lagi jimat minyak. 421 cost u more minyak but less mileage compare stok exhaust
Thank you for the answer, I always thought that the original system is either 421 or 41 but with a catalytic converter
@@l.k.y.6929 logic is. All exhaust is 4-1 (combine welled together before catalyc coverter)
But catalyc chamber have tiny hole as honeycom. Exhaust gas can flow freely. But for perfomnce car, u need all that gasses out fast.. That y, 421/41 extractor make diffrent perfomnce.
Cost from engine to exhaust tip =rm1500 (2010 price)
Nowdays, maybe +- 2000
Terbaik bro
影片不错，但是影片长度太长了
Sama sama atas reviewnya
tq bro review this car
Welcome 👍
请问你的车窗控制怎么弄到灯的哪里可以弄
ua-cam.com/video/XL4clrTeSpk/v-deo.htmlsi=CTakcEwyl8FHOohR
可以参考这个视频，要注明一下要有auto上下的主板才能弄到有灯（里面已经有灯泡）
老板，电线自已接的吗
Real men use three pedal and use signal when changing lanes
correction here: Real men use three pedal and also use signal AND mirrors when changing lanes and turn junction.
车主讲油耗10km/l , 如100%city 多少? 100% highway 多少? Steering 有虚位吗?
我10l/100km的数据是70% city+ 30% highway。我还没有试过fully highway drive，目前最省油的记录是9l/100km。fully city drive最吃油的记录是12l/100km
@@l.k.y.6929 明白! Steering 准确吗?有虚位free play?
@@truckman7123 steering有一点点虚位，是可以接受的。如果虚位太少开长途就很辛苦了。这个刚刚好，不至于影响操控
楼主，想和你确定一下这个耗油量是对的吗？因为这个耗油量看起来有点夸张，以现在rom95 RM2.05 per liter 的油价来说，一个 KM 需要 RM0.20。以一辆小车来说好像有点高哦。
@@ablvd-gc3kl 楼主一看就是手牙kaki! 你肯定不是! 你不是手牙kaki所以驾不会高过楼主! 可是要省油为何不买 Axia才22k?
saga有自动补油的吗？我们需要做降档补油吗
Saga没有自动补油，要自己补
@@l.k.y.6929请问他的side mirror是可以自己手动折回来的吗？
@@andrew8591 可以，不过也只能手动
求问Iriz 1.3manual 和 Saga 1.3 Manual你会比较推介哪款😂纠结中
我推荐Saga mc2，因为换挡手感很爽。如果mc2之前的saga就算了。拿iriz会更好一点
@@l.k.y.6929 原来牙箱有不一样，我一直以为两个1.3的手牙牙箱应该会是一样的牙箱
@@kosekidk854 mc2之的话iriz比较好。mc2比iriz好
这个y3 headlamp 会照到对向来的车吗？
高度调到正确的位子就不会
想問有沒有车灯在晚上的时候的照片
有哦
@@l.k.y.6929 哪里?
Hi可以知道你的Y3 mini projector哪里买的吗？我有兴趣…可以给我链接吗？
shp.ee/u0tb5im
@@l.k.y.6929谢谢哦😊
By the way, are the steel rims 13 inch or 14 inch?
They are 14 inch rims
Ok thanks.
安装行车记录仪还有warranty的吗？
车的warranty?
想问，你换了 led mini projector 之后那个塑胶防尘套还可以用吗？
我没有用。要用的话要剪
@@l.k.y.6929好的，谢谢！你有调过角度吗？我也是买了 Y3, 安装了后射出来的线有点斜斜的😂 👍👍
@@ablvd-gc3kl 我没有调角度哦，我的直接装就正了。只是调高度而已
@@ablvd-gc3kl调不到的话可以去找accessories店叫他们调