Ford 5.4L 3v Engine Knocking Noise: This is Why You Don't Buy Cheap Engine Parts!

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  • In this video we investigate a knocking noise no one seems to be able to find!
    I ONLY recommend Ford internal engine parts.
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  • @FordTechMakuloco
    @FordTechMakuloco  7 років тому +54

    I ONLY recommend Ford internal engine parts.
    Save some hassle and buy the latest Ford Phasers:
    amzn.to/2siGpNU

    • @fernandoguerra9783
      @fernandoguerra9783 7 років тому +8

      did you have to replace both cam phasers and cam shafts?

    • @FordTechMakuloco
      @FordTechMakuloco  7 років тому +7

      Yes on this one because the other side was heading the same route as this one.

    • @fernandoguerra9783
      @fernandoguerra9783 7 років тому +2

      +FordTechMakuloco might have to do that also. I replaced everything but the oil pump. new Ford phasers. Everything else from Napa. I still get the noise. and always timing codes.

    • @SN-ci4cz
      @SN-ci4cz 7 років тому +10

      Man, these videos you make are awesome! I wish your shop was located in North Carolina so that you could help me out with some work on my 5.4 Triton motor issues. Either way you've been a huge help!!

    • @briansmith6306
      @briansmith6306 7 років тому +5

      I fully agree, I'll never buy another Doorman product for my F150. IWE's failed in a year.....BOTH, even there power window buttons failed in short order.

  • @ryanmac7377
    @ryanmac7377 7 років тому +227

    I wonder if you realize how important you are to the Ford UA-cam community. Your videos are awesome and helping a lot of people. keep up the great work Brian! Start work on your new shop yet?

    • @FordTechMakuloco
      @FordTechMakuloco  7 років тому +18

      +ryan mac I am holding off a year this one is working out too well. The only thing I would gain is a lift which this shop can accommodate too

    • @powe300
      @powe300 7 років тому +3

      ryan mac with all the work those ford's need I bet.

    • @csaleen302
      @csaleen302 5 років тому +3

      No they arent all bad. I have a 2005 f150 with a 5.4 3 valve with 375k miles and a 2008 F250 with a 5.4 3 valve with 275k miles. Both are good trucks

    • @texanbalaban6777
      @texanbalaban6777 5 років тому +1

      Can I remove camshaft with all roller followers and lash adjusters in place?

    • @texanbalaban6777
      @texanbalaban6777 5 років тому +1

      @@FordTechMakuloco I've spent a few more hours looking through the web to see if I can remove camshaft without taking out any roller followers and lash adjusters without damaging anything?

  • @brentbradley6711
    @brentbradley6711 6 років тому +2

    Omitting the cam replacement comment means nothing, you have the best videos and don't yell either. I was a mechanic for 10 years and I can really appreciate what you do. It was before overhead cams, fuel injection, engine lights etc so I can learn a lot now.

  • @SmittySmithsonite
    @SmittySmithsonite 7 років тому +9

    Dorman ... well there's your problem! That brand is the mechanic's bane.
    It's not worth the hassle to save a buck on engine internals! Good lesson right here - thanks for posting!

  • @RTXti-ld7dx
    @RTXti-ld7dx 7 років тому +1

    Worked at a Ford dealership for over 10 years and can't emphasis enough NOT to by cheap, imitation Ford parts because they are "Cheaper". Buy only original FORD parts, period!! Great video btw!!

  • @jeremydoblinger3609
    @jeremydoblinger3609 6 років тому +16

    Best youtube mechanic!!!also im a ford guy and have learned some things from your videos..thank you for sharing knowledge with me like this,saves me time and money...

  • @bloodredhornet2704
    @bloodredhornet2704 7 років тому +7

    Love the videos! Your stuff has helped me a lot. I had a bad experience with an aftermarket phaser after doing the full timing components replacement. I still had knocking and after chasing multiple VCT solenoids and taking everything back apart twice without finding anything wrong. I ordered a cam phaser lock out kit and when I went to install it in my brand new phasers I found that the new phase I had put on was internally damaged and actually missing a vane. Buy ford parts!

  • @BackCountryWrenching
    @BackCountryWrenching 7 років тому +9

    i'm totally with you, nobody should cheap out on aftermarket parts for timing, only use OEM less headaches in the long run

    • @tmulliganii01
      @tmulliganii01 6 років тому +1

      Shouldn't a properly seat phaser last as least as long as Ford? (excluding Dorman faulty phasers). Ford Parts have a 2 year warranty, some aftermarket phasers coming out with a 3 year and cost well under 100 bucks. Ford parts known to fail. Is it really extremely crucial? Us tight pocketed folk need to know if we are getting what we pay for. Is it the steel, the mechanism? Diving too deep into a dumb question but huge price discrepancy.

  • @denniswilkinson1118
    @denniswilkinson1118 7 років тому +6

    Great diagnosis Brian, those cam phaser problems are keeping my from buying a newer truck. I'll just stay with my '95 F150 5.0. Thanks for the great videos and info.

  • @terrylarotonda784
    @terrylarotonda784 7 років тому

    Great video. I have a 1998 5.4 with 251,000 miles. I ordered it new and received it with 3.3 miles on it. So far no engine problems. Hope I didn't just jinx myself. Keep the great instruction.

  • @Theborbons
    @Theborbons 3 місяці тому

    I'm working on an 07 expedition and the right side phaser is missing the spring. Your the man when it comes to the 5.4

  • @jamisonbryson7810
    @jamisonbryson7810 7 років тому +5

    I'm about to do a timing job on an 07 F150, I considered using cheap parts in the past but Brian has definitely convinced me otherwise. I'm doing EVERYTHING, chains, guids, tensioners, phasers...even doing roller followers and lifters (peace of mind since I'll be in there anyways)! Thanks for all your videos Brian, wouldn't be able to do this without them.

    • @iskaryreyes2424
      @iskaryreyes2424 6 років тому

      what's the correct and easy way to replace a broken valve spring on #7 cylinder on my 2010 F150 with the 5.4 engine

  • @jeffreyrichard8054
    @jeffreyrichard8054 7 років тому +2

    Brian, You do a great job for the Ford community and F150 owners, I look forward to your videos which are very helpful.I'm a amateur weekend mechanic, but your videos have empowered me to tackle more serious issues with my truck.

  • @rsaucedo59
    @rsaucedo59 7 років тому +7

    I am amazed at how you are so well informed! GOOD JOB!

  • @PineHollowAutoDiagnostics
    @PineHollowAutoDiagnostics 7 років тому +25

    Nice job on the diag and repair, Brian! Maybe GM had the right idea with their trucks and stuck with the old reliable pushrod OHV configuration. Seems like Ford is always reinventing the wheel, and then Dorman adds some spice haha

    • @FordTechMakuloco
      @FordTechMakuloco  7 років тому +5

      +Pine Hollow Auto Diagnostics it definitely would avoid all this hassle and potential failure points. Overall the 2v and 4v units are reliable it's these darn 3v monsters that over complicated things.

    • @hawaiianf1504
      @hawaiianf1504 7 років тому +2

      Whoa -- We are blessed with TWO Godly Guru Master Blasters!! Aloha's to Ivan and Brian!!

    • @JC-jj1xm
      @JC-jj1xm 7 років тому +2

      Pine Hollow Auto Diagnostics GM's VLOM setup isn't any better

    • @bryane2857
      @bryane2857 7 років тому +4

      I'm a GM guy and do like my push rod engine. Easy to work on. However, Ford is the leader with engines for trucks. While they are more complicated they sure do pull nicely. GM and Ram will be going to Turbos and Aluminum . Got to follow the leader.

    • @classicwefi
      @classicwefi 7 років тому +3

      I had one of these 3 valves come to my shop running on four cylinders with a left bank cam sensor code . I scoped the sensor found no signal pulled the sensor and found the tone wheel not spinning pulled the valve cover and cranked the engine the sprocket was spinning and the cam was not moving . The top quality Dorman phaser failed all the vanes inside broke up into chunks the bolt was tight. Dorman parts Suck been burned too many times.

  • @brianskinner4328
    @brianskinner4328 7 років тому

    I wasn't trying to offend anyone. It's that I hear constant problems with these engines. Not just from certain owners, but techs, and other people I know that has had nothing but problems. I am glad yours is running well. Again I wasn't trying to offend anyone.

  • @daveturbo6292
    @daveturbo6292 3 роки тому +4

    The 5.4 are actually one of my favorite engines they're actually pretty solid.

  • @hitekrednek66
    @hitekrednek66 7 років тому +3

    love your vids sir. very infomative. I own a 99 crown vic and an 06 f150 and both have served me well and the info you provide help me keep them running well. more crown vic vids would be nice. I wish you had shown more on this vid on the full tear down and the complete repair. I enjoy watching and learning. please keep up the good work!

  • @yqwgjsg
    @yqwgjsg 7 років тому +3

    I've only used a Dorman part once when I had to replace the intake manifold on my 2003 Towncar. It is fine so far and I'm not sure the OEM replacement at twice the price would have been better since the original already had the metal front runner update but the seal between the metal runner and the plastic failed which caused a small coolant leak causing a misfire on plug 5. I definitely wouldn't use Dorman for any internal repairs and like you, recommend factory parts even including filters etc.

  • @SilverBullet93GT
    @SilverBullet93GT 2 роки тому +3

    Brian is so good, even Chevy owners watch his videos :)

  • @johnredden8728
    @johnredden8728 7 років тому +1

    If you will order the phaser lock kit with the provided scan tool it comes with you can lock the phaser's into place and turn the VVT off on the 5.4L 3V. Runs better, no more phaser issues. I will agree that some aftermarket phasers are junk. We sell aftermarket phasers where I work. If you used the Dorman XD series phasers we have had no issues with. If you use the cheap value line ones, they won't last more then 6 months. But the best fix is to eliminate it.

  • @dhd2313
    @dhd2313 4 роки тому +3

    I have a 2003 and I’m having that noise . Thank you 😊, I’ll have my master mechanic fix

  • @RANDOMNATION907
    @RANDOMNATION907 7 років тому +22

    Well done and to the point ... you just earned yourself a new subscriber.

  • @numberpirate
    @numberpirate 6 років тому +5

    I am glad you wear gloves, you seem like a nice guy, so it's nice knowing you are trying to avoid rheumatoid arthritis.

    • @hyperex3341
      @hyperex3341 4 роки тому +3

      You can't get rheumatoid arthritis from not wearing gloves. It is an autoimmune disease.. just wanted to put that out there.

    • @Yophillips3272
      @Yophillips3272 2 роки тому

      @@hyperex3341 You never know.

  • @stevebruce1235
    @stevebruce1235 Рік тому

    Good to see a professional at work

  • @isailopez6034
    @isailopez6034 5 років тому +9

    You are the best my friend. Did replace the cam too?👍👍👍

  • @johnnypea5369
    @johnnypea5369 7 років тому +93

    if the phasers are bad, you can always fall back to using the photon torpedoes

    • @loweredexpectations8568
      @loweredexpectations8568 6 років тому +5

      This kind of bullshit is why I got equipped with disruptors. They look better too.

    • @edwardmyers1746
      @edwardmyers1746 5 років тому +2

      Quantum torpedoes?

    • @GruvenHaus
      @GruvenHaus 5 років тому +1

      Aye-aye captn'

    • @guytremblay1647
      @guytremblay1647 4 роки тому +1

      yep and aim them right at the vehicule to pulverize it and then go buy another brand that i wont name

    •  4 роки тому

      If we aren't going to inspect the dilithium crystals, then why are we even here?

  • @herlbertomurcia5023
    @herlbertomurcia5023 3 роки тому

    Im a old scool mecanic.
    Friend of me want to do phaser job on 2010.
    Becouse of your videos' a feel confedence to do thah job.
    Than you for videos.
    Im a mexican leaving in houston texas.

  • @danielwangler532
    @danielwangler532 7 років тому +2

    I just ordered up all ford brand timing componets and melling oil pump. from amazon. Your vids will be used for reference. 07 5.4 3v, 150,000mi. just a rattle at start up and quiets. im running 5-30 wth motorcraft filter.just replace it allwhile its open, plugs too

  • @randyragon
    @randyragon 7 років тому +1

    When I put in my new phasers a couple of years ago, everyone across the country was back ordered on the Ford. So since there was no info on when they would be available I went with the Dorman. One of them has something wrong with it and has the sensors reading they are out of time with each other. Runs ok and wouldn't be a terrible hassle if I didn't have to have it smog tested this year and because of that code it won't pass. So I'll have to change them out again. I was able to go with the Ford solenoids.

  • @Backyardmech1
    @Backyardmech1 7 років тому +14

    I'm a Chevy guy, but I will say Ford has made some good work trucks. Their engine designs are a bit overly complicated though to a GM motor IMO.

    • @ryan_poul757
      @ryan_poul757 7 років тому +2

      Backyardmech1 just these. Old school is better with all brands.

    • @Dr.Westside
      @Dr.Westside 5 років тому +4

      Long live the pushrod v8

    • @dxta7360
      @dxta7360 4 роки тому

      @@Dr.Westside what brands do have the v8 push rods pls?

  • @adolforosado
    @adolforosado 7 років тому

    Dear Mr Makuloco, I've repaired my 1997 F150, 4x4, 4.6 many times thanks to your videos. I'm having a problem with truck not starting, just clicking 3 times and then the locks go up and down. I repaired the locks not working by installing a jumper wire on the dash relays per one of your videos.
    You think this would be related in any way to that same issue?
    Replacing starter at the moment anyway. So old and rusty. Using your starter removal with tips video. PRICELESS!
    Thanks bud!

  • @danielwilson7572
    @danielwilson7572 Рік тому +1

    Because of this video I replaced my phasers last year with genuine Ford parts. Unfortunately replaced my chain guides with aftermarket parts. One year later I'm back in the engine because one of those chain guides went to pieces. I will use genuine Ford chain guides this time.

  • @jamesdixon2860
    @jamesdixon2860 5 років тому +1

    First one of your videos I've watched. It was to the point. not to long ,not to short...Subscribed.

  • @mikegaughan9260
    @mikegaughan9260 7 років тому +3

    Good job dude, you have skill that's for sure and your smart about the internals.

  • @sparklawns3433
    @sparklawns3433 6 років тому +2

    I ALMOST bought a 5.4 Platinum back in the day, ended up with a decent 5.0 XLT instead. Gotta say, I am veryyyy thankful I got a 5.0 cause i've had ZERO issues thus far *knock on wood*

  • @ssclassof2000
    @ssclassof2000 7 років тому +2

    Love your videos, wish you were in the southeast. We have a 2013 Ford Focus manual that has been at the ford dealer 3 times because of power loss at takeoff and below 3000 rpm. They have thrown 1200 worth of parts at it, and are "stumped" and waiting for a ford engineer to come and drive it.

  • @jorgejimenez4829
    @jorgejimenez4829 6 років тому +1

    I wish there was a guy just like you who knew so much about chevy trucks. As i have both chevy and ford vehicles.

  • @jimzivny1554
    @jimzivny1554 7 років тому +21

    Dorman just keeps getting worse and worse, I refuse to use most of their stuff. One good thing I've used without a problem is the license plate lights for my Tahoe! LOL

    • @omegaseamaster1550
      @omegaseamaster1550 5 років тому

      Who is to say that the phazer was not installed correctly?
      there is more than one way to look at the problem.

  • @robertwilson9999
    @robertwilson9999 7 років тому +2

    Man you've said you don't recommended those dorman phasers , now I can see why !

  • @markowease9947
    @markowease9947 4 роки тому +1

    I would like to say hat's off to you sir. You do a great job of explaining step by step how to information on these Ford's. You have helped me a great deal. I just want to say I appreciate and respect you help. Thank you very much. God bless.

  • @davetrujillo2836
    @davetrujillo2836 7 років тому +20

    That's why my ford sounds like a gas/diesel hybrid.

  • @fusion3d581
    @fusion3d581 7 років тому +2

    My 3v mustang is my baby,
    You're like her pediatrician!!
    Thanks.

  • @kurtkennedy5370
    @kurtkennedy5370 7 років тому +18

    Thats doorman for ya. Cant tell you how many Ive fixed from people using this exact phaser. I wouldn't even put a doorman parts on my In laws cars!

    • @FordTechMakuloco
      @FordTechMakuloco  7 років тому +1

      +Kurt Kennedy lol I know I warn people all the time.

  • @MasterChief-sl9ro
    @MasterChief-sl9ro 7 років тому +10

    Well since you had to replace the cams. Go with the Mustang ones. They add 25 HP and 30 lbs of torque for the same price.

    • @martincontreras6776
      @martincontreras6776 5 років тому +3

      From which mustang?

    • @TheRookie-ld3cb
      @TheRookie-ld3cb 5 років тому

      Martin Contreras a 3 valve

    • @robs4517
      @robs4517 4 роки тому

      What is the part number for the Mustang phasers?

    • @robs4517
      @robs4517 4 роки тому

      Brian: what are your thoughts on cam phaser lockouts? Pros and cons? I understand that cam phasers only adjust from 20 to 60 degrees on timing at low rpm? Thanks

    • @zmiller9099
      @zmiller9099 4 роки тому

      5

  • @d.sgaming1888
    @d.sgaming1888 3 роки тому

    Thank you for your videos on ford. I just recently bought a ford f150 07 with the v8 5.4 liter. I love the truck but I'm becoming more aware of the promblems to look for with your expertise. We need great mechanics for ford's where I live.

  • @dufus2273
    @dufus2273 5 років тому +1

    and a thousand dollars later, it's good to go. looks like the inside of the phaser was not flush with the end of the camshaft. improperly machined OR improperly torqued. this is a very common problem on fords. sounds like a bad wrist pin or piston slap. good job of searching it out.

  • @icsivan
    @icsivan 4 роки тому

    Thank goodness I watched your videos and asked around, I almost when with dorman phasers, then looked into the Cloyes. I finally decided to just go ahead and get them through Ford. Best decision! Spend a few extra dollars and it’ll save you from this. Good Job Brian!

  • @humidbeing
    @humidbeing 7 років тому +2

    I knew soon as you showed the Dorman logo what the problem was gonna be lol. Great vid as usual.

  • @bkeagle1
    @bkeagle1 3 роки тому +1

    Best Ford F-150 mechanic in the country much love long time fan. I just purchased power train products 5.4 3V for my 2005 f150 xlt may I ask what kind of cam phaser did they upgrade the cam phaser to on the remanufactured engine? I just purchased last week, I know they upgraded it. Any help appreciated I wanna make sure it’s a good one hopefully the updated Ford I’ve seen you say is the best I think. I know you’ve installed the power train and like them that’s why I got one. They really fixed all the commen issues that plagued my oem engine.

  • @johneric3886
    @johneric3886 4 роки тому

    You do such a good job on your videos explaining. There is a saying I really like you can't fail at being yourself. You epitomize that phrase. All my best hope you're well. I'm actually down in Naples Florida enjoying the winter. Although I live up north.

  • @waynep343
    @waynep343 7 років тому +5

    Question.. did you check the torque on the other phaser. if one was left loose the other could be loose.. how was the crank bolt torque..
    did you return the part to the customer.. or do you still have it.. can you show the differences between the dorman and the Ford locating pins .. can you also show the proper way to torque the phaser on the cam. i am hoping that you fished around in the pan with a magnet wand to collect any metal bits to keep them out of the oil pump and install a magnetic drain plug..
    when you used the impact to remove the bolt it did not seem to be tight.. i wonder also if the actuator was partially plugged.. if the reduction in flow allowed the phaser to hammer till it came loose.. the PIn into the cam and the 3 locating pins are for assembly ONLY. the torque of the bolt is what holds everything tight..
    i see you have other videos on cam phaser knocking noise fix.. thanks for those..

  • @FuLLmOOners
    @FuLLmOOners 7 років тому +1

    great videos! Love all the help and tips you put out for us Ford guys, really appreciate everything. keep up the good work bub.

  • @rokguitarstar
    @rokguitarstar 6 років тому

    Had the same motor, at about 60, 000 miles the local dealer told me it was the cam phaser. Took it to a trusted mechanic and he told me it was an exhaust manifold leak. Fixed it. All these motors make a ticking sound. Finally blew the motor up at 259K miles. Replaced with a new motor from Ford with a 100,000 mile warranty, supposedly they fixed the cam phaser and spark problems

  • @tomashton7208
    @tomashton7208 7 років тому +3

    hey dude, if you have particles in the oil, the motor is shot, its not being trapped in the oil filter and that shit is embedding in the main and rod bearings, pretty soon the oil pressure will drop and the motor is junk even if you tear the engine apart, and re size the crank, by a machine shop, the pistons and cylinder walls will be scuffed, which means a bore job for over size pistons, but the bottom line is you will never get all that crap out of the motor, even if you have it professionally hot tanked and de greased, in the long run its better to buy a short block from a proven shop that knows what they are doing

    • @FordTechMakuloco
      @FordTechMakuloco  7 років тому +1

      I absolutely agree but this was the route the customer chose. I never like it when there is metal in the engine and this one had a lot trapped in the lifters from the front cover damage.

  • @nickjonesrc
    @nickjonesrc 7 років тому +30

    Dorman is junk across the board in my shop I won't touch it.

  • @workingshlub8861
    @workingshlub8861 7 років тому +4

    dorman strikes gain...its hot or miss with there stuff..sometimes it is the only option though.

    • @ratbert86
      @ratbert86 7 років тому +3

      seems more misses than hits nowadays - they're just reboxing cheap crap on a lot of their stuff now

  • @Tracks777
    @Tracks777 7 років тому +4

    Good video! Keep it up!

  • @jdaddy56jj
    @jdaddy56jj 7 років тому +1

    Looks like the phaser bolt was not tightened to spec during reassembly, a loose bolt would definitely cause that phaser to shift on the end of the camshaft. Regardless, I am in full agreeance to always use Ford and Motorcraft parts.

  • @JDub07
    @JDub07 7 років тому

    I suppose I got a good 3v. 220,000 miles and runs great. It does have the infamous diesel sound at idle, but it had it when I got it and the gentleman I bought it from said it had it forever with him too. Aside from getting terrible gas mileage I don't have any other issues. I just change the fluids and filters and that's it

  • @Tracks777
    @Tracks777 7 років тому +3

    Great! Keep it up!

  • @codymoncrief2128
    @codymoncrief2128 7 років тому +20

    From the spark plugs, to the timing chain, and the oiling system in general, the 5.4 was built to fail.

    • @glasser2819
      @glasser2819 5 років тому +2

      yep, just like the Benz: perfectly designed for premature failure, A to Z plastic junk and soft metals.
      "Forces" are pushing everyone to simply buy Toyota

    • @TheRookie-ld3cb
      @TheRookie-ld3cb 5 років тому +3

      Yeah the 5.4 3 valve, the 2 Valve 5.4 is way more reliable

    • @12121149
      @12121149 5 років тому +2

      Mine is still running @235089 miles,original trans???? Built to fail??????????????????????????

    • @jimmyj5035
      @jimmyj5035 4 роки тому +1

      @@12121149 I'm with you Pete!

  • @alexsbikesandmotors
    @alexsbikesandmotors 7 років тому +21

    This is a ford channel so I'm gonna get shit for saying this, but until they make these chain driven OHC v8's more robust and reliable, the cam-in-block pushrod design is better. The extra power and fuel economy of ohc isn't worth it.

    • @Cp-qo6xk
      @Cp-qo6xk 6 років тому +4

      Alex's Bikes and Motors they’ve been awful reliable man. The 5.4 just sucks and has a bad head design. The 4.6 on the other hand although not perfect is by far one of the most reliable engines made in the 21st century so far.

    • @jdigitalseven7
      @jdigitalseven7 5 років тому

      Pushrods are just ancient tech. Have to have much bigger engines to make same power output vs OHC/DOHC design.

    • @charlesfear4007
      @charlesfear4007 5 років тому +1

      Ford needs to delete the chains all together and use timing gears. Way more reliable and dependable, not to mention the longevity of engine life. Oh wait reliable and dependable would get into the profit margins... Can't have that now can we? Just lost a 2v 4.6 with 130,000 miles on it due to this bullshit. Damn shamed too cause everything internal looked textbook. Still has the cross hash marks in the cylinder walls. Smh

    • @charlesfear4007
      @charlesfear4007 5 років тому

      Gear drive is where it's at. Forget the chains, faulty guides, and junk tensioners...

    • @eduardoarredondo1674
      @eduardoarredondo1674 5 років тому

      Alex's Bikes and Motors my 4.6 went 350k on my f250. Never liked the engine but it never guit.

  • @gseyank100
    @gseyank100 7 років тому

    I greatly appreciate this channel and your videos. I bought an 05 f-150 3v about two years ago. I'm on my second motor. Since buying it with a blown up motor. First engine I lost the truss bearings at 6k mikes. Trashed the bottom end. I'm 3k into the second motor. If you are ever out by Palm Springs and have a few minutes hit me up. I have some good questions about these motors. I will total pay you for your time also.

  • @eldoradony
    @eldoradony 7 років тому

    I have seen so many failures of Dorman parts that I won't but them any more. You have expressed your opinion as well as Eric O. I'm sure other UA-camrs have done so as well. Has Dorman ever responded to any of the negatives to you or any one else that you know of?

  • @kp7476
    @kp7476 6 років тому +1

    I have a 5.4 3v engine after watching some of these videos I realized I had the famous startup rattle and the rough idle caused by the vct solenoids every since I had bought the truck 2 years ago and I didn't realize it until recently. Before we were going to dig into the engine a Ford mechanic that is a friend of ours recommended before we start digging in to check the camshaft caps for scoring and sure enough the caps as well as the camshaft are scored and now I am told I just need a new engine all together, what would my best engine option be (Ford re manufactured, jasper, or machine shop) and how difficult would it be to pull an engine since I can't seem to find any instructions online at all thanks!

  • @DS-ss7vl
    @DS-ss7vl 4 роки тому +1

    Your videos are very easy to learn from. Thank you.

  • @jeremyberger2205
    @jeremyberger2205 7 років тому

    I learn so much from your videos. any concerns about the 2.7 ecoboost I should be concerned about.

  • @jackking5567
    @jackking5567 6 років тому +4

    I once had an aftermarket cam fitted into a GM vehicle and the cam hadn't been hardened!
    It didn't last 4 hours..

  • @hardone4608
    @hardone4608 7 років тому

    subscribed...have 2015 GT bought new August 2015..only have 4500 miles on it...but warranty will one day go away...hope you don't...and thank you for letting me add on here !!!

  • @jesseaguirre2961
    @jesseaguirre2961 2 роки тому +1

    Thanks Brian , you are a God send !!

  • @mattlayne104
    @mattlayne104 7 років тому

    You are an excellent mechanic I love watching your diagnosis I would love to see put it back together but thank you for showing me your tricks of the trade

  • @lindamorgan2678
    @lindamorgan2678 3 роки тому +1

    Did this noise only happen for 15 seconds or so at a cold start up or all the time? Thank you

  • @mnxjschreiber3791
    @mnxjschreiber3791 7 років тому

    Not even a ford guy but I like your videos

  • @tumyung9666
    @tumyung9666 4 роки тому +1

    i used an aftermarket chain tensioner on a lincoln, bad idea. no oil seals in them, low oil pressure to the rear of engine.

  • @khaleemslee5319
    @khaleemslee5319 3 роки тому

    replace a nut or a rod vs need to fix an engine or replace and engine. Thank you sir for a thousands of dollars lesson for free. God bless you 🙏

  • @OzMechanics
    @OzMechanics 7 років тому

    Great video !!! keep them coming

  • @00grigsby
    @00grigsby 7 років тому +1

    Nice job on all your videos...luv them and they are super helpful for me.
    I have a question regarding the cam journal/shaft replacement.
    I have been following your timing chaining replacement series and when I inspected the cam shaft I identified that the locating pin hole for the phasers was a little marred up - not as bad as in this video but.... I order a new cam shaft and plan on replacing it.
    My question is, should I also replace the roller followers as well...they appear to be in good condition.
    My vehicle is a 2005 Ford F150

  • @Spencerbuildsit
    @Spencerbuildsit Рік тому

    Great info, but an unanswered question at the end. We are to assume a new camshaft as well as phaser?

  • @RobertSmith-le8wp
    @RobertSmith-le8wp 6 років тому

    We have F250 5.4 work trucks and they all make noise. We also have a few older square bodies with the 351 (5.8) sometimes complex isn't always better. The 351 is easier to work on and has been more reliable. I also used to have a 1999 F150 work truck with the 4.2 v6 and a 5 speed manual. I can't think of any mechanical problems I ever had with that truck. To me Ford has always changed engine design to frequently. If there's one thing GM does well it's their LS series of V8's. First off it's a simple design, secondly the basic architecture is shared through all of the engines, and third they've stuck with the same design for over 20 years. If it ain't broke, don't fix it

  • @ncso911
    @ncso911 4 роки тому

    I have a 2006 F150 with 79k miles. Yes, that’s correct.
    Should I change the phasers out to avoid surprises?
    I changed my plugs out at 40k miles when I started hearing about those problems.

  • @royyazzie6028
    @royyazzie6028 4 роки тому

    Worth while listening to another sound of Ford Triton Motors thxz foe the ups & down there sir

  • @NoTyOdAdDy21
    @NoTyOdAdDy21 7 років тому +1

    I had a similar noise but didn't think it was so bad since I have taken it to the dealer for service at every oil change. They told me nothing. So today I cranked up to leave to come home it was a little louder. I was about a quarter mile from home when it sounded like something exploded and sounded like glass. It lost almost all power and would nearly die if I didn't press the gas. Do you think that the phaser exploded and failed? If so in your opinion is the motor toast since I drove it home?

  • @jeffkomplin2052
    @jeffkomplin2052 6 років тому

    I agree dorman quality has dropped in the last few years but this issue was due to human error not torqueing the bolt. It would have had this issue with any brand part not being properly installed

  • @craphittingthefan2360
    @craphittingthefan2360 6 років тому

    I sure hope you changed the cam bolt that holds the Phaser on a good kit comes with the bolt

  • @dougacebedo824
    @dougacebedo824 5 років тому

    Old time steamships used lots of external oilers why not stick a couple on your valve covers and oil er up before you start the engine. Then have a little pisser valve at the pan to let a little out

  • @gabbermaikel
    @gabbermaikel 7 років тому +2

    we recently had 1 of these cars come in, guy had just bought it a few months ago, and never sounded that great, turned out someone else had been in there working on the chain and they didnt tighten or over tightend the tensioner to the block cause 1 of the bolts to sheer off and the other 1 was completly turned out of its hole. That in term caused a loose chain wich broke the chain guides wich where then chewed up and went trough the oil system, and it also took some of the front cover aluminium and blew it trough the engine too. In the end the engine was off on its timing, it had bent valves, all bearings where shot because of the tensioner and aluminium that got washed trough there and not enoug oil because of the tensioner being off of its hole letting the oil pressure fly out that way.
    So the guy got new cams, new followers, new hydraulic lifters, new valves, new bearings and a reground crank. And all that because some stupid dude didnt mount things like he should have, and he didnt want to use a torque wrench. And this here looks like the same type of deal. It looks like the phaser wasnt torqued to spec, and then the thing comes loose and destroys everything. That locating pin isnt there to keep it in place while running, its just there to locate it during assembly. After that the clamping force of the bolt should keep it in place. But with not enough torque on the bolt it wont clamp enough, and to much might cause that hollow bolt to start stretching out to much making it come loose again too.

  • @adotintheshark4848
    @adotintheshark4848 3 роки тому

    Dorman, the "fix-it-then-sell-the-car" brand. I bought Dorman brake rotors for my BMW. I bought another set of brake rotors 5 months later. Did you also replace the camshaft?

  • @brandonfred7426
    @brandonfred7426 7 років тому +1

    thanks for these 5.4 3v videos I try to watch all of them. I need a phaser on my 04 but it has 208,000 so I'm not going to bother

  • @mikeberryman5322
    @mikeberryman5322 3 роки тому +1

    Did you put a new camshaft in ?

    • @lrberg1206
      @lrberg1206 2 роки тому

      According to his reply to another comment, yes, new camshaft. Makes sense, that one was shot.

  • @mikes9939
    @mikes9939 7 років тому +8

    I will never understand why Ford produced an engine with overhead cams that would never rev much past 5000 rpm as most mod motors do.. A pushrod engine can easily do that with much less complexity and that explains why GM built the LS with pushrods when it also had the option of choosing overhead cams during the design phase. The Coyote engine can rev much higher than the run of the mill mod motors so it can justify the added cost and parts count needed for a 4 valve engine. All the tensioners and chain guides and such hardware are too many extra parts that can break, and they do quite a lot.

    • @williamboynton7678
      @williamboynton7678 5 років тому

      Heyyo Mike! You can turn any engine to crap with shoddy maintenance. What you CANT DO in your 6.2L is make it go as fast as a Coyote with just a tune. Such trucks these days are going in the 12's everyday. I'll give you the $400 I spend on a tune if you can make a GM 6.2L do that time.

  • @somerandomguy3868
    @somerandomguy3868 7 років тому +2

    out of curiosity how many miles on this engine great video as always thanks

  • @klausphx
    @klausphx 3 роки тому +1

    I used Dorman Phasers had problems with them won't use them again have a Phasers replacement on Customers Expedition be using Ford Factory Phasers and Valve train parts

  • @ericgrau123
    @ericgrau123 7 років тому

    I really appreciate these triton 3 valve videos!

  • @brianskinner4328
    @brianskinner4328 7 років тому +8

    That's cool. I wish they'd go back to old school. less problems

    • @loktom4068
      @loktom4068 7 років тому +1

      Brian Skinne r Ford needs to go to Honda Technical School and beg for knowledge.

    • @brianskinner4328
      @brianskinner4328 7 років тому

      I'm hoping the 5.0 coyote, and the ecoboost engines are a hell of a lot better

    • @holybritches
      @holybritches 7 років тому +1

      Lok Tom I would have agreed before I bought a new 2008 Civic. Worst piece of crap I have ever purchased. Engine failed outside of warranty and many other things on that car didnt last. I treated it like a baby but it was garbage. I will never buy a Honda again.

    • @ryan_poul757
      @ryan_poul757 7 років тому

      Lok Tom lol yea keep your fart box. I'll keep my big block

    • @patrickeaglin2165
      @patrickeaglin2165 6 років тому

      Brian Skinner Orlando back door latch lock back door locks

  • @slowl2
    @slowl2 7 років тому +14

    So was that camshaft junk at that point? Camshaft and phaser replaced?

    • @FordTechMakuloco
      @FordTechMakuloco  7 років тому +19

      Yes new Ford cams and phasers. It is supposed to be a precise fit theses were just too worn out.

    • @almfreak
      @almfreak 7 років тому +5

      was wondering about that cam. all these 3v Triton videos lately making me glad I bought my 2v 6.8 Excursion!

    • @Ben-fk2iz
      @Ben-fk2iz 7 років тому +2

      was there a way to make the cam usable again? I was thinking of putting weld on the sides of the notch and milling it out but I'm not sure it's worth trying.

    • @norman_sage2528
      @norman_sage2528 6 років тому

      Ben.....if can do that....you the man!

    • @chrisknudson1110
      @chrisknudson1110 6 років тому

      FordTechMakuloco did you get away with just replacing the cams and phaser? Or did you have to replace the entire head

  • @joegoforth3062
    @joegoforth3062 7 років тому

    I have a 2004 f-150 5.4 3V. Replaced chains guides and put in a noise repair kit to lock out the phasors. It fully advanced the timing and seems to work awesome for noise but powers a little low. Just want to get your thoughts on the noise repair kit. Good or bad idea to add.

  • @Silverglider1978
    @Silverglider1978 4 роки тому

    Man I wish I lived near you. I would completely trust you to work on my 2013 Ford Expedition EL Limited. Continuous tapping/clicking sound coming from cylinder 3. Engine codes come up as P0316 and P0303. Misfire in cylinder 3. Ford dealership says it’ll cost me around $9,300 and will likely need a new engine. I called bullshit on them. I dunno what to do.

  • @beardedpatriot1857
    @beardedpatriot1857 3 роки тому

    I'm getting ready to tear into mine tomorrow. I am expecting to find this same thing unfortunately. All new Ford parts but I believe it's an install error. Noise is definitely in one spot just like that. Less than 1000 miles on all new parts. Ugh. Wish your shop was closer it would have been done right the first time.

  • @gogogeedus
    @gogogeedus 5 років тому

    You caught it in time,well done!