Shimon Schocken: The self-organizing computer course

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  • Опубліковано 3 жов 2012
  • Shimon Schocken and Noam Nisan developed a curriculum for their students to build a computer, piece by piece. When they put the course online -- giving away the tools, simulators, chip specifications and other building blocks -- they were surprised that thousands jumped at the opportunity to learn, working independently as well as organizing their own classes in the first Massive Open Online Course (MOOC). A call to forget about grades and tap into the self-motivation to learn.
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КОМЕНТАРІ • 177

  • @MaryMPringle
    @MaryMPringle 10 років тому +304

    "Grading takes the fun out of failing."

    • @alyssamcelwee8059
      @alyssamcelwee8059 6 років тому +1

      Like help take

    • @emremokoko
      @emremokoko 4 роки тому +13

      @ProjectTuring Definitely. The lesson from years of schooling should not be "you are not allowed to fail". Failing is a part of life, and adulthood is handling life gracefully.

  • @martincattell6820
    @martincattell6820 3 роки тому +65

    People like Shimon Schocken restore my faith in humanity. He seems to love learning so much that he must share it with the world. Thank you Shimon.

  • @stachowi
    @stachowi 8 років тому +124

    I've been waiting my entire life for a course like this... what a gift considering how important computers are these days!

    • @warshon123
      @warshon123 7 років тому +7

      I hope you've been able to explore some of the computer science Shimon Schocken has produced. Good luck on your endless journey of becoming greater and greater!

    • @malx1289
      @malx1289 3 роки тому

      So did you do it

    • @malx1289
      @malx1289 3 роки тому

      This is a call to action not a slight against you

    • @stachowi
      @stachowi 3 роки тому +2

      @@malx1289 i'm a tech entreprenuer, so i've used this course to better understand the full stack of abstractions, no i haven't built his computer.
      I am looking forward to the updated version coming out this June.

  • @zionen01
    @zionen01 6 років тому +18

    Mid way through his class, with a full-time job it's hard keeping up but I'm loving it, the more I do it the more I want to keep doing it and I just wish I had more time for it. Great work indeed.

  • @ayeminoo2067
    @ayeminoo2067 7 років тому +31

    Can't describe my excitement. I was so excited the way the professor show how as a teacher we can let students learn themselves and in far better way instead of learning formula by heart.
    And you mentioned "Grading sucks!". How true it is!
    Thank a million Sir.

  • @ameyakoushik9059
    @ameyakoushik9059 5 років тому +59

    This guy is a genius! So inspiring this is. I am currently doing his Nand2Tetris course and I feel I am being transformed. Highly recommend it to anyone who wants to know how a computer works(especially non computer science students)

    • @sabirnawaz1304
      @sabirnawaz1304 4 роки тому

      Hey bro how are you man am a javascript programmer currently doing C++ jumped back to C++ for some pure concepts but it was not enough I want to learn how a compiler is design and how all the things languages under the hood work so I just came across his course today I am excepting that I will learn to design a compiler and understand all the theories behind programming whats your take on his course should I switch from C++ to his course and then back to C++ do you believe I will get something very satisfying kindly reply me am completely broken

    • @CianMcsweeney
      @CianMcsweeney 3 роки тому +2

      @@sabirnawaz1304 You can complete the Nand to Tetris course in any programming language, the OS, assembler, compiler etc can be written in any language you wish

    • @furkanunsal5814
      @furkanunsal5814 2 роки тому +1

      ​@@sabirnawaz1304 Hello colleague, how is it going? did you finished the course?

    • @sabirnawaz1304
      @sabirnawaz1304 2 роки тому

      @@furkanunsal5814 sorry bro couldn't limit myself to frontend yet

  • @finaldarkjon
    @finaldarkjon 10 років тому +28

    Not just CS/CE but this theory should be applied to all learning environments. It truly works, i have experienced it myself..

  • @jousefm6146
    @jousefm6146 6 років тому +9

    This is by far one of the best talks of TED.

  • @ela_seo
    @ela_seo 9 років тому +86

    "Grading is degrading". Upgrading in my opinion is appreciating progress not perfection.

    • @ctogaurav
      @ctogaurav 4 роки тому

      Yes, appreciate for efforts.

  • @mikeyo1234
    @mikeyo1234 11 років тому +28

    I know more about psychology than most people with a degree in psychology and even quite a few psychologists and professors. I've been self studying for 20 years. A hobbyist works harder, and for longer. Informal education beats a formal education.

  • @TheSkyJackal
    @TheSkyJackal 7 років тому +7

    Almost done with it... its Amazing! connecting the dots of multiple topic in CS & CE such as programming, computer architecture, operating systems, Hardware & software..

  • @farhan44able
    @farhan44able 4 роки тому +1

    Glad to watch this gem of a video. Shimon Schocken is one of those revolutionary professors who can make a society upgrade to a new level.

  • @nunzioturtulici9636
    @nunzioturtulici9636 3 роки тому +1

    Great. I am fascinated by computers since I was a baby and become a mathematical and a programmer. Always wanted to understand how a computer worked and dreamed about building one, one day. Then I found their GREAT, GREAT course and I'm "attending" it. I'd like to thank people like them, which make humanity better :)

  • @Justgoodvids
    @Justgoodvids 11 років тому

    Thanks for putting the link in the description!

  • @vanosswolf
    @vanosswolf 11 років тому +14

    I love the simplicity. It makes me realize that while I am good at my job, I do not always know how I arrived to point C by starting at point A. Due to techology, point B is pretty much removed from existance. How much of a expert am I really? I have to understand what makes up point B...

  • @samfortunato
    @samfortunato 11 років тому +41

    self-education is something ive done ever since i was a kid.. taught myself coding + design, then guitar and various instruments.. most of the time, i dont feel as much passion for anything unless im excited about it, usually b/c i like it or have some goal with it..
    point is i think goals work best when they are personal, like mine were/are, and what schocken says here. and that drove me to learn for me, not grades. learning is exciting, not work, and this idea needs to come back into schools

  • @devanshshukla8857
    @devanshshukla8857 3 роки тому

    i'm halfway through the course and it is so so rewarding!

  • @3227998
    @3227998 4 роки тому

    Couldn't have been said more beautifully - "grading takes away all the fun from failing". I have been thinking about this idea for a long time and couldn't agree more with Mr. Schocken's view on grading. Students became so much concentrated on grades that subsequent stress is overflowing which in a result leads to loosing big/important picture of education.

  • @dhanvinprajapati7049
    @dhanvinprajapati7049 7 місяців тому +2

    I am starting my journey with this course now and am so excited (in my finale year of graduation and may be its too late i think) 🤞🤞

  • @CLEANDrumCovers
    @CLEANDrumCovers 11 років тому

    So humble. This guy is great.

  • @seggsfault
    @seggsfault 2 роки тому +4

    I just love this man…even when i knew nothing about him and was watching him in the course he had really a magic in his way of teaching

  • @LethalBB
    @LethalBB 11 років тому

    Favourite TED so far.

  • @Tictosaurus
    @Tictosaurus 11 років тому +2

    Awesome ... that's all I could say. Wish I were a kid again and start from scratch!

  • @rohinibarla
    @rohinibarla 4 роки тому +1

    Worth watching for every entrepreneur, who wants to build something of an impact. And for every computer science student or self-learner to know what is the first principle of computer science and understand them by doing the nand2tetris course.

  • @praveensoni2245
    @praveensoni2245 3 роки тому

    Awesome, starting course today

  • @ujjawalsrivastava9969
    @ujjawalsrivastava9969 3 роки тому

    This is beyond beautiful ❤️💙

  • @flaviodg2323
    @flaviodg2323 3 роки тому

    Thank God there are people like him on this planet!

  • @kemalbey271
    @kemalbey271 4 роки тому +2

    thank you a lot. you are my hero

  • @hamza_belmellouki
    @hamza_belmellouki 6 років тому +1

    big thanks, from morocco

  • @stormarrow2120
    @stormarrow2120 3 роки тому +1

    Almost done with Nand2tetris! Couldn't be more great full!

  • @Video-tipsTv
    @Video-tipsTv 11 років тому

    Great Inspiring lecture! Thank You.

  • @sumathividhya
    @sumathividhya Рік тому

    I found this gem lately :)

  • @renanreismartins
    @renanreismartins 2 роки тому +2

    i did this course. the work of this man should be considered part of the world heritage.

  • @marktindal2186
    @marktindal2186 11 років тому

    The UK is using a great system with similar principles now called Education City, my daughter really enjoys using it and it hammers home key numeracy, reading and writing skills.

  • @Jedi1976
    @Jedi1976 4 роки тому

    Wow this is really amazing talk💓

  • @aakashbudhiraja1231
    @aakashbudhiraja1231 11 років тому +2

    How can anyone Dislike this video!!!
    It is the most awesome video i have ever seen

  • @DhruvSethandmyworks
    @DhruvSethandmyworks 11 років тому

    brilliant . . . Even after finishing of schooling i still wana try those basic apps. Coz what he was said was true .. some people are just true learners
    they dont waorry abt age/grade. . . for them learning is it !

  • @sarvasvarora
    @sarvasvarora 5 років тому +4

    I'm self-taking this course in high school as a 12th grader..... loving it!

    • @don7784
      @don7784 Рік тому

      @Sable How's life now tho

  • @sudhanshupatel
    @sudhanshupatel 10 років тому +2

    really great job :)

  • @shintsu01
    @shintsu01 11 років тому

    I really love to see all the TED talk ideas about the reform of education to get more traction. it pains me to see the limitations of the current education system. It has a huge disconnect with the current generation. and is obsolete since internet makes information abundant.

  • @fuzzy793
    @fuzzy793 11 років тому

    Insightful thanx for sharing

  • @AngusPearson
    @AngusPearson 11 років тому +1

    This guy has really hit the sweet spot - If only this were used as a foundation for eduction.

  • @narayanbhat3279
    @narayanbhat3279 5 років тому +1

    The way of finding the area of a triangle totally freaked me out!

  • @kushagrasaxena5202
    @kushagrasaxena5202 5 місяців тому

    12 years later this course is still relevant and amazing!!

    • @harshgupta5027
      @harshgupta5027 12 днів тому

      Bro after attending the course would i be able to build something other?? I know basics of c++

  • @AmineBoulaajaj
    @AmineBoulaajaj 11 років тому

    I think I still need this app. :)

  • @dantedom1
    @dantedom1 11 років тому +13

    "when you really want something to happen, the whole universe conspires so that your wish come true" - Paulo Coelho

  • @wulf8121
    @wulf8121 11 років тому

    It is amazing!!!

  • @ChristopherJManess
    @ChristopherJManess 11 років тому

    Awesome Sauce!

  • @slatemath3310
    @slatemath3310 10 років тому

    slateMath, you can find it at the iPad apps store

  • @lioretgar
    @lioretgar 10 років тому

    Great!

  • @VaibhavSharma-zj4gk
    @VaibhavSharma-zj4gk 2 роки тому

    This is a great Course....Can you suggest some other course as good as this one?

  • @KiranKumarBegari
    @KiranKumarBegari 3 роки тому

    Awesome 😎

  • @elemenz888
    @elemenz888 11 років тому

    I rate this talk at 95 out of 100 points, making it 95%, giving it 4 and a half stars,
    and a B+ (A being the best) with a special never gonna give, never gonna give, give you up...
    never gonna give, never gonna give, give you up...
    We've known each other, for so long...

  • @CottonBallLightning
    @CottonBallLightning 11 років тому +2

    This sounds exactly like what this high school student needs to get started. And people say you learn nothing from youtube.

  • @Spark_Books
    @Spark_Books 3 роки тому

    The best course about computers.

  • @0MoTheG
    @0MoTheG 11 років тому

    At my university they did not even manage to build a simple µC from a crude specification that they had written from an existing commercial architecture to FPGA stage. The specification was already poor and the project management ***

  • @magister343
    @magister343 11 років тому

    Self-study is a term for the Action of teaching oneself.
    Autodidact is a term for the Person who teaches himself.
    Autodidacticism is a synonym for self-study.

  • @albert275
    @albert275 11 років тому +2

    I really feel that learning something is not that difficult, and the current structure of classes/lectures are not the right ways to do them. Learning should be done in the person's own time, hopefully driven by themselves, and the lectures should be reserved for advanced applications of the learned knowledge.
    From personal experience, I can learn many many times faster watching Khan Academy than by listening in lecture.

  • @mgmartin51
    @mgmartin51 2 роки тому

    I think his grandfather would be amazed at the results of his legacy.

  • @TadaGanIarracht
    @TadaGanIarracht 11 років тому

    There's a little button above your left shift key. You should press it.

  • @JonathanZhan
    @JonathanZhan 11 років тому +1

    It's about the effectiveness and importance of education motivated by the curiosity to develop an understanding of things from first principles. This is presented as an alternative to the shallow education patterns engendered by a grades-focused education approach.
    So I disagree - this is one of the best TED talks I've seen.

  • @King8james9
    @King8james9 11 років тому

    Dope!

  • @vinayseth1114
    @vinayseth1114 8 років тому +2

    Interesting! One question though- where did the kids get the hardware for the Nand to Tetris project?

    • @omfgprizma
      @omfgprizma 8 років тому +8

      +Vinay Seth You use a hardware simulator among other tools that you download, so no actual hardware.

    • @vinayseth1114
      @vinayseth1114 8 років тому

      +Tobias Lans Oh ok. Thanks.

    • @vinayseth1114
      @vinayseth1114 8 років тому

      +Tobias Lans Oh ok. Thanks.

    • @abythomas6607
      @abythomas6607 7 років тому

      +Toblas Lans Hi, can I do this course on Ubuntu? Or does the software work only on Windows..?

  • @expeng5861
    @expeng5861 5 років тому

    "self-contain" 是我最看好这门课的一点啊...

  • @sakokosa
    @sakokosa 11 років тому

    yea!!!

  • @420RittzBish
    @420RittzBish 11 років тому

    The end of this, the tablet learning shit. Fucking AWESOME. Why can't I be a future kid?

  • @brianredbeard
    @brianredbeard 11 років тому +1

    Damn right.

  • @anwarjujara
    @anwarjujara 11 років тому

    what is the app name?

  • @princeninja4874
    @princeninja4874 9 років тому +4

    It's All about people

  • @Chic01taliano
    @Chic01taliano 11 років тому

    That reminded me about Rosetta Stone when i learnt french

  • @allhailalona
    @allhailalona 6 місяців тому

    וואי אחי איך שומעים מיד לפי המבטא שאתה ישראלי. גדול! אין על אסמבלי, השפה הכי טובה שיש

  • @LordPBA
    @LordPBA 7 років тому +7

    I am still stuck on writing nand and xor... :(

    • @davidnodes800
      @davidnodes800 4 роки тому +1

      You dont have to write nand you are given that

  • @boogyman19946
    @boogyman19946 11 років тому +2

    7:03 - "The world came."

  • @colidort
    @colidort 11 років тому

    איפה ניתן להוריד את האפליקציה של המתמטיקה?

  • @agemoz
    @agemoz 11 років тому

    He is a little nervous, but great talk.

  • @Krounz44
    @Krounz44 11 років тому

    word!!

  • @NerdyLiberal
    @NerdyLiberal 11 років тому

    What can I say? They know how to work computers ;)

  • @Krounz44
    @Krounz44 11 років тому

    it is funny you are saying that, back in college, i did write a paper about Art history of Latin America..

  • @thefreakDWN
    @thefreakDWN 11 років тому

    Is Nir Rozen Lewis, from the yogscast? (xephos)

  • @jerrylittlemars
    @jerrylittlemars 11 років тому

    10:17 so true

  • @morthim
    @morthim 11 років тому

    "grading became degrading" :) well said

  • @daobagua
    @daobagua 11 років тому

    Sound like the FPGA course I went through.

  • @getbusy21
    @getbusy21 11 років тому

    yes i like

  • @0MoTheG
    @0MoTheG 11 років тому +1

    If only we would progress in education a quarter as fast as in technology! I do not see much progress at all.
    In germany the Professor walks in, talks and writes to the chalkboard, walks out again, that much I can get out of any book.
    The classes are composed to be homogeneous: the same number of every ethnicity and the same past grade average, not by learning style and interest/speed

  • @AndyWJP
    @AndyWJP 8 місяців тому

    I am creating a Digital Logic Simulator that supports Nand2Tetris called logic-simulator-2

  • @FungusyHam
    @FungusyHam 11 років тому

    fcuking brilliant

  • @Krounz44
    @Krounz44 11 років тому

    not trashing! i really enjoyed the video, and i think it is very inspiring regardless where is the speaker from, he did add something to my knowledge, and i do respect him for that.. but the part where he said, his parents where busy building a country made me say something.. and please no need to use filthy language..

  • @Ruby_V_
    @Ruby_V_ 11 років тому

    This guy, needs a larger position of leadership, now.

  • @Krounz44
    @Krounz44 11 років тому

    that doesn't mean i support violence, i love peace, and i support peace.. but at the same time, i can't blame a father who lost a whole family at the same time..

  • @Nathan287
    @Nathan287 11 років тому

    9:40 ish So true.

  • @davidphamle
    @davidphamle 11 місяців тому

    It's ironic that the motivation for him to build NAND2TETRIS course is because university took the fun away from learning computer science with all the gradings and not allow students to fail, but my university is using this course and charged international students so much money and also set a high hurdle in which half of the students failed.

  • @KeepitShredda
    @KeepitShredda 11 років тому

    10:09 THIS.

  • @HernanGabrielGonzalez
    @HernanGabrielGonzalez 11 років тому

    Yeah right

  • @johnfox137
    @johnfox137 11 років тому

    Truth has been told, my best way to learn is to make mistakes, which is simply unacceptable in universities, so sad.

  • @josy26
    @josy26 6 років тому +1

    What is schmai? anybody?

    • @matanheller9939
      @matanheller9939 5 років тому

      It's a language tool in hebrew that rewrites the world for a comic effect like "tech shmeck"

  • @LosReyesSon
    @LosReyesSon 11 років тому

    No, he meant adjudication. Look it up. It is indeed a real word.

  • @DMITRI1ZARAGORA
    @DMITRI1ZARAGORA 11 років тому

    Visionbear is old and almost blind now from inoperable cataracts and eye infections . He makes no excuses for himself, and i make no excuses for him. He is still more knowledgeable from Universities and life than many, even of his age. yes he has made his own computer ,and tries to correct his own word and typing errors. Dmitri Zaragora

  • @WilhelmDrake
    @WilhelmDrake 5 місяців тому

    Failure is how we learn. Grades and testing are an impediment to learning.

  • @cosmin379
    @cosmin379 8 років тому +13

    "we don't replace teachers" - yes you do and it's great that you do! stop being defensive about it.

    • @SirUncleCid
      @SirUncleCid 8 років тому +8

      +Cosmin Apreutesei They're teachers themselves, amirite

    • @shubhammittal9764
      @shubhammittal9764 6 років тому +3

      Many teachers around the world are looking for better environments to teach students in. They are not to blame for anything, it's our collective understanding about education that's taking a shift now. It's beautiful

  • @elvisflorian
    @elvisflorian 11 років тому +2

    Lol the guy with long beard in picture