Shimon Schocken: The self-organizing computer course
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- Опубліковано 3 жов 2012
- Shimon Schocken and Noam Nisan developed a curriculum for their students to build a computer, piece by piece. When they put the course online -- giving away the tools, simulators, chip specifications and other building blocks -- they were surprised that thousands jumped at the opportunity to learn, working independently as well as organizing their own classes in the first Massive Open Online Course (MOOC). A call to forget about grades and tap into the self-motivation to learn.
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"Grading takes the fun out of failing."
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@ProjectTuring Definitely. The lesson from years of schooling should not be "you are not allowed to fail". Failing is a part of life, and adulthood is handling life gracefully.
People like Shimon Schocken restore my faith in humanity. He seems to love learning so much that he must share it with the world. Thank you Shimon.
I've been waiting my entire life for a course like this... what a gift considering how important computers are these days!
I hope you've been able to explore some of the computer science Shimon Schocken has produced. Good luck on your endless journey of becoming greater and greater!
So did you do it
This is a call to action not a slight against you
@@malx1289 i'm a tech entreprenuer, so i've used this course to better understand the full stack of abstractions, no i haven't built his computer.
I am looking forward to the updated version coming out this June.
Mid way through his class, with a full-time job it's hard keeping up but I'm loving it, the more I do it the more I want to keep doing it and I just wish I had more time for it. Great work indeed.
Can't describe my excitement. I was so excited the way the professor show how as a teacher we can let students learn themselves and in far better way instead of learning formula by heart.
And you mentioned "Grading sucks!". How true it is!
Thank a million Sir.
Hey Fellow Burmese
This guy is a genius! So inspiring this is. I am currently doing his Nand2Tetris course and I feel I am being transformed. Highly recommend it to anyone who wants to know how a computer works(especially non computer science students)
Hey bro how are you man am a javascript programmer currently doing C++ jumped back to C++ for some pure concepts but it was not enough I want to learn how a compiler is design and how all the things languages under the hood work so I just came across his course today I am excepting that I will learn to design a compiler and understand all the theories behind programming whats your take on his course should I switch from C++ to his course and then back to C++ do you believe I will get something very satisfying kindly reply me am completely broken
@@sabirnawaz1304 You can complete the Nand to Tetris course in any programming language, the OS, assembler, compiler etc can be written in any language you wish
@@sabirnawaz1304 Hello colleague, how is it going? did you finished the course?
@@furkanunsal5814 sorry bro couldn't limit myself to frontend yet
Not just CS/CE but this theory should be applied to all learning environments. It truly works, i have experienced it myself..
This is by far one of the best talks of TED.
"Grading is degrading". Upgrading in my opinion is appreciating progress not perfection.
Yes, appreciate for efforts.
I know more about psychology than most people with a degree in psychology and even quite a few psychologists and professors. I've been self studying for 20 years. A hobbyist works harder, and for longer. Informal education beats a formal education.
Almost done with it... its Amazing! connecting the dots of multiple topic in CS & CE such as programming, computer architecture, operating systems, Hardware & software..
Glad to watch this gem of a video. Shimon Schocken is one of those revolutionary professors who can make a society upgrade to a new level.
Great. I am fascinated by computers since I was a baby and become a mathematical and a programmer. Always wanted to understand how a computer worked and dreamed about building one, one day. Then I found their GREAT, GREAT course and I'm "attending" it. I'd like to thank people like them, which make humanity better :)
Thanks for putting the link in the description!
I love the simplicity. It makes me realize that while I am good at my job, I do not always know how I arrived to point C by starting at point A. Due to techology, point B is pretty much removed from existance. How much of a expert am I really? I have to understand what makes up point B...
self-education is something ive done ever since i was a kid.. taught myself coding + design, then guitar and various instruments.. most of the time, i dont feel as much passion for anything unless im excited about it, usually b/c i like it or have some goal with it..
point is i think goals work best when they are personal, like mine were/are, and what schocken says here. and that drove me to learn for me, not grades. learning is exciting, not work, and this idea needs to come back into schools
i'm halfway through the course and it is so so rewarding!
Couldn't have been said more beautifully - "grading takes away all the fun from failing". I have been thinking about this idea for a long time and couldn't agree more with Mr. Schocken's view on grading. Students became so much concentrated on grades that subsequent stress is overflowing which in a result leads to loosing big/important picture of education.
I am starting my journey with this course now and am so excited (in my finale year of graduation and may be its too late i think) 🤞🤞
So humble. This guy is great.
I just love this man…even when i knew nothing about him and was watching him in the course he had really a magic in his way of teaching
Favourite TED so far.
Awesome ... that's all I could say. Wish I were a kid again and start from scratch!
Worth watching for every entrepreneur, who wants to build something of an impact. And for every computer science student or self-learner to know what is the first principle of computer science and understand them by doing the nand2tetris course.
Awesome, starting course today
This is beyond beautiful ❤️💙
Thank God there are people like him on this planet!
thank you a lot. you are my hero
big thanks, from morocco
Almost done with Nand2tetris! Couldn't be more great full!
Great Inspiring lecture! Thank You.
I found this gem lately :)
i did this course. the work of this man should be considered part of the world heritage.
The UK is using a great system with similar principles now called Education City, my daughter really enjoys using it and it hammers home key numeracy, reading and writing skills.
Wow this is really amazing talk💓
How can anyone Dislike this video!!!
It is the most awesome video i have ever seen
brilliant . . . Even after finishing of schooling i still wana try those basic apps. Coz what he was said was true .. some people are just true learners
they dont waorry abt age/grade. . . for them learning is it !
I'm self-taking this course in high school as a 12th grader..... loving it!
@Sable How's life now tho
really great job :)
I really love to see all the TED talk ideas about the reform of education to get more traction. it pains me to see the limitations of the current education system. It has a huge disconnect with the current generation. and is obsolete since internet makes information abundant.
Insightful thanx for sharing
This guy has really hit the sweet spot - If only this were used as a foundation for eduction.
The way of finding the area of a triangle totally freaked me out!
12 years later this course is still relevant and amazing!!
Bro after attending the course would i be able to build something other?? I know basics of c++
I think I still need this app. :)
"when you really want something to happen, the whole universe conspires so that your wish come true" - Paulo Coelho
It is amazing!!!
Awesome Sauce!
slateMath, you can find it at the iPad apps store
Great!
This is a great Course....Can you suggest some other course as good as this one?
Awesome 😎
I rate this talk at 95 out of 100 points, making it 95%, giving it 4 and a half stars,
and a B+ (A being the best) with a special never gonna give, never gonna give, give you up...
never gonna give, never gonna give, give you up...
We've known each other, for so long...
This sounds exactly like what this high school student needs to get started. And people say you learn nothing from youtube.
The best course about computers.
At my university they did not even manage to build a simple µC from a crude specification that they had written from an existing commercial architecture to FPGA stage. The specification was already poor and the project management ***
Self-study is a term for the Action of teaching oneself.
Autodidact is a term for the Person who teaches himself.
Autodidacticism is a synonym for self-study.
I really feel that learning something is not that difficult, and the current structure of classes/lectures are not the right ways to do them. Learning should be done in the person's own time, hopefully driven by themselves, and the lectures should be reserved for advanced applications of the learned knowledge.
From personal experience, I can learn many many times faster watching Khan Academy than by listening in lecture.
I think his grandfather would be amazed at the results of his legacy.
There's a little button above your left shift key. You should press it.
It's about the effectiveness and importance of education motivated by the curiosity to develop an understanding of things from first principles. This is presented as an alternative to the shallow education patterns engendered by a grades-focused education approach.
So I disagree - this is one of the best TED talks I've seen.
Dope!
Interesting! One question though- where did the kids get the hardware for the Nand to Tetris project?
+Vinay Seth You use a hardware simulator among other tools that you download, so no actual hardware.
+Tobias Lans Oh ok. Thanks.
+Tobias Lans Oh ok. Thanks.
+Toblas Lans Hi, can I do this course on Ubuntu? Or does the software work only on Windows..?
"self-contain" 是我最看好这门课的一点啊...
yea!!!
The end of this, the tablet learning shit. Fucking AWESOME. Why can't I be a future kid?
Damn right.
what is the app name?
It's All about people
That reminded me about Rosetta Stone when i learnt french
וואי אחי איך שומעים מיד לפי המבטא שאתה ישראלי. גדול! אין על אסמבלי, השפה הכי טובה שיש
I am still stuck on writing nand and xor... :(
You dont have to write nand you are given that
7:03 - "The world came."
איפה ניתן להוריד את האפליקציה של המתמטיקה?
He is a little nervous, but great talk.
word!!
What can I say? They know how to work computers ;)
it is funny you are saying that, back in college, i did write a paper about Art history of Latin America..
Is Nir Rozen Lewis, from the yogscast? (xephos)
10:17 so true
"grading became degrading" :) well said
Sound like the FPGA course I went through.
yes i like
If only we would progress in education a quarter as fast as in technology! I do not see much progress at all.
In germany the Professor walks in, talks and writes to the chalkboard, walks out again, that much I can get out of any book.
The classes are composed to be homogeneous: the same number of every ethnicity and the same past grade average, not by learning style and interest/speed
I am creating a Digital Logic Simulator that supports Nand2Tetris called logic-simulator-2
fcuking brilliant
not trashing! i really enjoyed the video, and i think it is very inspiring regardless where is the speaker from, he did add something to my knowledge, and i do respect him for that.. but the part where he said, his parents where busy building a country made me say something.. and please no need to use filthy language..
This guy, needs a larger position of leadership, now.
that doesn't mean i support violence, i love peace, and i support peace.. but at the same time, i can't blame a father who lost a whole family at the same time..
9:40 ish So true.
It's ironic that the motivation for him to build NAND2TETRIS course is because university took the fun away from learning computer science with all the gradings and not allow students to fail, but my university is using this course and charged international students so much money and also set a high hurdle in which half of the students failed.
10:09 THIS.
Yeah right
Truth has been told, my best way to learn is to make mistakes, which is simply unacceptable in universities, so sad.
What is schmai? anybody?
It's a language tool in hebrew that rewrites the world for a comic effect like "tech shmeck"
No, he meant adjudication. Look it up. It is indeed a real word.
Visionbear is old and almost blind now from inoperable cataracts and eye infections . He makes no excuses for himself, and i make no excuses for him. He is still more knowledgeable from Universities and life than many, even of his age. yes he has made his own computer ,and tries to correct his own word and typing errors. Dmitri Zaragora
Failure is how we learn. Grades and testing are an impediment to learning.
"we don't replace teachers" - yes you do and it's great that you do! stop being defensive about it.
+Cosmin Apreutesei They're teachers themselves, amirite
Many teachers around the world are looking for better environments to teach students in. They are not to blame for anything, it's our collective understanding about education that's taking a shift now. It's beautiful
Lol the guy with long beard in picture