@@ottercreeklabs I already love my Polo K, this video just made me love it more. Excellent work OCL!! I'd be so curious to see the full-size Polo vs the SouthPaw.
@@kevinbrittingham6774 lol it’s alright big dawg. Haters gonna hate. You’re doing pretty good for yourself and these saps have to log into their online banking just to see if they can afford to DoorDash a bigmac. Don’t even waste your time.
@@kevinbrittingham6774if you just came out like “ naw I’ve been trolling everybody this whole time,” we might believe it. That’s your best bet at this point.
Damn, this video has it all. - snubbing independent testing in favor of your own - comparing K / compact competitors cans to your full sized option - comparing to cans that are half the price of your new offering - comparing to cans that are as old as some of your hipster employees - typical Q knob slobbery - Kevin running around the comments spreading additional misinformation, like he does best Truly some incredible stuff.
notice how Kevin shit talks on every comment except the ones ragging on him for comparing the polo K to this can? he knows he pulled a sneaky one and he's trying to not get any attention to that fact
@@kevinbrittingham6774i mean, you’re completely wrong. Sure its “loud at ear” but extremely quiet to bystanders. Its also durable, for a stainless can. Mount? Hub threaded run anything you want. Sorry kevin but no man. Is it the best? No. For the price? Absolutely
@@skillercruz5539 but but it weighs .3 ounces more so it's too heavy! And apparently the OCL test mag dumping with the short barrel AR with the polonium easily passing means it's not durable. Apparently it also decreases accuracy, and direct thread and HUB compatible mounting isn't good 😂
@@kevinbrittingham6774I’d watch his videos. He obviously wouldn’t be comparing a K can that’s half the price as your garbage and nearly beating it anyway.
@@kevinbrittingham6774 because you don’t make apples to apples comparisons. You took a v6 Camaro (polo k) and raced it against a base model v8 (your can) and left the SS (full size polo) in the garage. And now you’re doing a victory lap which is hilarious. You’re the embodiment of the meme of the dude standing on the podium biting a medal and he’s in 3rd place.
@@xaqtaargustaargus we can dissect that next. You called our silencer garbage, then you call it a V8. Explain it’s garbage. Bc I think you are ignorant and don’t know much about guns or silencers or automobiles. 🤷🏽♀️
Comparing a Q southpaw to a Polo K. Lol classic. A $1100+ can that is barely any noticable quieter then a K sized suppressor with less baffles that cost $400. Q is a joke for doing this type of video. Polo reins supreme!
@@kevinbrittingham6774 I'm guessing you bumped your head Kev. The polonium k does all those things better than your expensive southpaw can. 😂 You are a joke!
So the Polonium is supposedly so bad to Kevin, thats his justification for not having it in the video, but yet the PoloK is, sounds contradictory. You then ask commenters to define K, when comparing the Southpaw to the PoloK, instead of the full size, ok then use “common sense” remove the name and compare your can to the competitors that is closer in size, not the model that is 2” shorter. Disingenuous all around. Different cans sound different, and priorities are different, that’s no problem, the problem people have with you and your company is the ego, trash talk, and disingenuous practices you continue to display.
@@kevinbrittingham6774 Why don't you go ahead and include the vent, volos, and full size polonium in your next test then? After all, you supposedly make the best products.
Is that what it is for? Damn and I haven't been on board this whole time? makes me feel like I missed the ball. Glad you were there first to let us know what that's all about.
@@boygonewhoopdataZZwow, such evil behavior when they * checks notes * Charge cash for in depth testing. I think you’ve lost the plot, maybe tone down the antisemitism if you have a good point to make.
Thanks for the informative video! I was on the fence, but this video definitely helped me decide. My next two cans will definitely be a Polonium and Polonium K.
@@kevinbrittingham6774Bro don’t waste your time in these comments. Q is a great seller at my shop. I’ve got a list of people waiting on the Southpaw. People are gonna do what they want… Folks are excited and chomping at the bit to get there first Boombox here in N. Alabama!
For real it's the direct competitor to the southpaw in terms of price and everything that they bragg about. The fact that it's missing is kind of telling...
@@kevinbrittingham6774Why does Q use the Cherry Bomb? Doesn’t it save weight to go with direct thread Nelsons on the Q tapered barrel? Also the Nelsons have more baffles so wouldn’t they be more quiet in addition to saving weight?
@@compositetiger having more baffles does not equate to being more quiet at least not in the examples I know of volume and shape of baffles usually slow it down. Otherwise cans would be 20 baffles with a quarter inch in between.
@@calebsone1630 I’m saying tell me where the cut off line is. I know what casuals mean, I’m asking you guys to define it. What if the requirement has a weight limit?
@@kevinbrittingham6774 This is why I asked what criteria they, the ones who made the video, used to select competitors to compare to. The Flow 556K and Polonium K are quite obviously K cans, and there are full size versions of both of those cans available that could have been chosen but for some reason were not. Asking us, the people in the comments, to define criteria for a selection not made by us is just nonsensical.
They even mislabeled the OCL Polonium K, 14:47 they labeled it as the full size one. But hey, if it makes your product look better by misrepresenting other companies, then you gotta do what you gotta do… OtterCreekLabs for the win!!!
Have you ever heard of a warranty? Also, how come in the graph at the end of the video you say it’s a Polonium, not a Polonium K. Unbelievably scummy, and don’t know what your problem is.
@@kevinbrittingham6774 but didn't he say your can was better than and is the baseline? I really think this was just showing popular cans versus one of their popular cans. And k cans are popular I regret falling into that falling into the trap with a saker k. This video made me want an m4 2000. I am happy to see where the rc2 fell because I didn't buy it because it was the quietest but because it was a sturdy can. I just realized I thought you were arguing against the test. Lol
@kevinbrittingham6774 no no no please do testing with other cans to find ways to improve products.. After some thought, I did realize it would be bad marketing to show a quieter can, so the move to show this selection was wize on yalls part.
The trend of all Guntubers using the “comedic relief slowboi” needs to die. It’s not funny, just annoying and obscures the actual content. Nothing against the guy, gun videos were just better before they added forced comedy.
No everything against the guy. Video drags on while we’re wait for home boi to finish his shitty jokes. Like, I get it’s the segue for the actual information that’s being presented but it gets annoying really quick.
This video was a miss for me. I don’t usually walk away from UA-cam videos feeling agitated. I’m also a Q customer, for whatever it’s worth. Fire the goober, and if you’re going to offer a semi-scientific comparison, let’s include the real apples to apples competitor models next time. 😅
@@InternetSkeletor I’m not a silencer testing pro - what is wrong with the approach here? Would you rather them just shared a Google sheets doc with the figures?
@@kevinbrittingham6774 KB I want to begin by saying I enjoy watching the videos you’re in, & I dig your brand. You guys are innovators, & you put out fun gear. I have several Forms that say Q on them, & have convinced no less than 4 friends to pick up their own. Regarding competitors cans, my only 5.56 can is an old M4-2000, that never actually seemed to work for its intended purpose. I’m on a waiting list to have AAC upgrade to Ranger 5, just to make it usable. But if I had a bunch of decent 5.56 cans to send, I probably wouldn’t be watching this video to find out if I should buy yours.. I get that you may have just used whatever ya’ll had on hand for the video, but in today’s ultra competitive market, using older models & a Polo K over the full length just stands out.. not in a good way. All that to say, maybe I’m just not a fan of your colleague’s schtick. P.S. I guess he can stay on, but maybe he just doesn’t talk as much. 🤷🏻♂️ All love. ❤️
@@kevinbrittingham6774 seems like there are more out there, but perhaps some of their design differentiators i.e. flow-through , would not be apples to apples. 🍎 🍏. Either way, enjoying that deep drawn Porq Chop right now. Great work matching weight & performance. I appreciate that you’re on here mixing it up too. Merry Christmas dude. 🍻
full size polo would have messed up that pretty little bar graph. But on the bright side, this just tells everyone that a polo k is on par with an RC2 but is half the weight and 2" shorter. Pretty impressive.
That depends. I own both and the polo K will toss flame at night pretty frequently. RC2 has almost no signature, minus the first round pop, under nvg. During the day, even with a pretty damn harsh firing schedule, the RC2 has 0 signature. Polo K is fantastic for the price, but it isn't really on par.
No CAT WB, hmmmm, typical Q bs, also no mention of tone and the south paw is decades old tech that is beaten in Db by a 40 year old ops inc, and the modern ops inc, the OCM5 is $400+ less than the southpaw, get real nerds
Mount, durability, flash, back pressure, sound performance, accuracy, poi shift, etc. We won everything with the South Paw. Yes, nerds did it 2 decades ago, and again with the South Paw.
I totally understand not wanting to do a "3rd party" pay to play testing (that doesn't have oversight), but damn what a ridiculous move for a company that touts how good it is to not even use a full size competitor can (OCL polonium), or the CAT WB. Its so clearly trying to rig it, you might as well have paid "third party testing" extra to give you a decent review. Yall can delete this video you know....
Looks like Kevin shot himself in the foot again. In a futile attempt to trash other cans, he forgot his cans cost a hell of a lot more without getting any more. OCL thanks you!!
Because they know the polo sounds awesome and I can't 100 percent say that it is but to me it sounds like it's quieter than the southpaw although I could be a little biased seeing how I own the polo full size
@@carolinaplinkerit’s high back pressure and loud at the shooter’s ear. Makes guns unreliable. There’s a reason it’s cheap. Send us one and we will test it.
First video ever watched from Q and last video. What a doofus. That was brutal. Watched the entire thing just for the data, but barely made it through.
@qllc I’m not sure who is running your marketing department, but you may want to open the position back up. Kevin’s already trying to make up sales for the lack luster design with the high price tag by making appearances on every UA-cam channel he can. Getting a marketing team would help him a little.
Saw some replies from the owner stating that the polonium is not a good can. Well… if it’s not a good can then why did you neglect to compare the full size to the southpaw? 😂 bit odd comparing a k can to your full size offering. Also many other cans who rate very highly on other end user and 3rd party testing evaluations that were left off of this comparison.
I wonder how the data would stack up compared to the Hux 556 TI, their full size 556 can. Pretty sure it’s in the top 3 pew science ratings for 556 cans. Lighter, quieter, reduce blow back, and still full auto rated. They do spark though. Appreciate the data though :)
Not to rain on Jay’s Parade but just maybe 🤔 he should be seen and not heard so much 😮that’s right keeping that pie hole shut and let the Grownups talk and educate the masses on the facts. In today’s world with all the misinformation, keep it simple and informative. There will always be time to entertain us later with stories of your escapades in Africa
What a joke. Anyone who still thinks single number peak db is the right way to measure hazard from a suppressed gunshot has no business making or selling them. Pew Science is a real engineer who knows what he’s doing.
😂 Then why doesn’t he do real testing? Why does t the mil use him? Sound, flash, durability, durability of sound, reliability, size, weight, accuracy, poi shift, etc.?
@@tiredguy709 how does it makes sense for a competitor manufacturer to pay another manufacturer to be included in a marketing piece advertising something that isn’t their product?
@@hikeskool that’s not the point. The point is that Kevin has been critical of Pew, an independent testing org based on their fees for analysis of suppressors. For Kevin to use that same excuse as a reason for not testing similar competitor products is a bit hypocritical. All that being said I agree with you that it wouldn’t make sense for a competitor to pay to be in some other products advertising. So why are there any other cans in this video that aren’t made by pew? The only reasonable conclusion is that the cans featured were selectively chosen to make the southpaw look like the best thing available. If that is the case then they really should call it science.
@@millerlightoutdoors nothing is wrong with it at all. Many are speculating that it would have had better numbers than the Southpaw so they purposely didn’t include it.
Lmao, Kevin comparing a full size can to a K can is peak Q, just like how the dude actively tried to portray 8.6 subs as better than 308 Winchester at 1,000 yards
The South Paw is a K can and is superior to everything on the market. I never said 8.6 subs were “better” than 308 at a 1,000 yards. I stated the fact that 8.6 subs have more energy and are high velocity at 1,000 yards than 16” 308. Stop being a loser.
@@kevinbrittingham6774 yet it's larger than any other K can on the market. This is like calling the M16 a carbine lmao. Anyway I love how you ignored me calling out how you also mislead performance on your 8.6
@@flapjackoperator5599 pls list a definition of K can or all K cans and there lengths. I didn’t mislead anything. You just aren’t being honest or you are just ignorant to the facts of what I actually said. What said is correct and is that “8.6 subs are higher velocity and energy on target at 1,000 yards than a 16” .308 at 1,000 yards.” Run the numbers. 8.6 sub 350 gr. is 870 fps at 1,000. 308 150 gr. supers are 800fps at 1,000 yards.
"You can't just report peak DB, you need to do analysis on the complete waveform" then proceed to only publish peak DB numbers, and samples were only collected from the muzzle to boot LOL. You guys have clearly not learned a single thing about making effective silencers since the mid 2000's. Shame on you.
@@kevinbrittingham6774 Spoiler alert: It's not. Even your own testing here has it slightly louder than the legacy M4-2000. Here's a hot tip KB: actually hire the proper Engineering specialty and your results may actually improve - Fluid Dynamics.
@@Argentum7756 it is. In the priority top 10 categories, it wins by a wide margin. The “legacy” can that I designed 20 years ago, still beats everything for sound, mil-std. 🤷🏽♀️💅🏻 Welcome to take your advice if you can name anything you’ve accomplished that any of us would care about. We’ll wait.
Been trying to tell these flow through boys out there, those things are too loud. Just get an adjustable gas block if gas to the face is a big deal for you.
@kevinbrittingham6774 of course in your opinion it will be. But the average american who makes 90-100k a year (which now has a value of about 50k only) the polo or polo k is by far a better value in almost every aspect except for a few DBs of sound. In my opinion almost every can thats 1100-2k and above is kind of a joke of a price when compared to some other cans that come in at hundreds of dollars less and hit every other mark. Not to mention the 200 jew fee for the average american is already a kick in the dick in this shit hole economy.
@kevinbrittingham6774 and it most likely will, and if it doesn't they will warranty it if something happens. I think the main takeaway from this is most people most spend double on a can that is a few DBs lower. If your can was 800 bucks then maybe. But not 1200. Same with the RC3. We can all agree that 1700-1800 for a can is hilarious.
So you're testing the loudest cans possible? I don't get it. CAT has set the bar so you can't really test anything without putting it side by side with the Alleycat or WB. I've had time behind the Dead Air Sandman S as well and am a fan. The Huxwrx cans are loud as sh*t.
@@fleetothemountains630Compare it to their full sized can then and not the K. Better yet, compare it to their upcoming flow through cans. There is zero excuse to buy q nowadays
I'm just happy to be included
They did y’all dirty comparing the K can and not the full size. I guess they didn’t want to explain double the cost for less/equal performance?
Who the fook are you?
@@IconTacticalnah I’m not mad about it. For being the shortest and cheapest suppressor in the test I’m cool with it
@@kevinbrittingham6774your son (the fat poor one)
@@ottercreeklabs I already love my Polo K, this video just made me love it more. Excellent work OCL!! I'd be so curious to see the full-size Polo vs the SouthPaw.
I’m sold. Getting the OCL Polonium. Thanks Q
Maybe you’ll get a raise next year?
@@kevinbrittingham6774 Based on how poorly this dated can is about to sell, none of your team will be getting one anytime soon lmao
@@kevinbrittingham6774 lol it’s alright big dawg. Haters gonna hate. You’re doing pretty good for yourself and these saps have to log into their online banking just to see if they can afford to DoorDash a bigmac. Don’t even waste your time.
@@kevinbrittingham6774if you just came out like “ naw I’ve been trolling everybody this whole time,” we might believe it. That’s your best bet at this point.
@@TheTiesThatBind88 what’s that mean?
Loved this video, I think you guys presented a really compelling case.
I'm gonna buy another Otter Creek Polonium K tmrw. Thanks guys!
Why no CAT WB can. That's yalls main competitor off silencershop. It's quiet, small, durable and it's 1200$, about the same cost as the southpaw.
Or ptr
Probably tested it before hand, knew it was better, and therefore didnt include it lol
@@chasejohnson1122yes hands down
Shorter too.
@@davidwithers7181ptr is good, but its titanium. Retarded amount of TI sparking on 5.56
Well, at least they are smart enough not to include the CAT WB or the full Polonium so we could see the real results. Goobers.
Yeah this was painful to watch
It’s always funny watching Kevin being mad the industry advanced past him lmao
Where’d that happen?
@kevinbrittingham6774 you know you’ve done something right when the online special operators throw shade.
@ it’s pretty great.
@@kevinbrittingham6774 approximately 2018
@@kevinbrittingham6774 It moved too fast past you for you to notice.
Damn, this video has it all.
- snubbing independent testing in favor of your own
- comparing K / compact competitors cans to your full sized option
- comparing to cans that are half the price of your new offering
- comparing to cans that are as old as some of your hipster employees
- typical Q knob slobbery
- Kevin running around the comments spreading additional misinformation, like he does best
Truly some incredible stuff.
You know we are right.
What is independent testing? Kamala Harris write your comments?
and thats, YQ
@@kevinbrittingham6774mhmm sure kevin
@@kevinbrittingham6774why are you obsessed with black dudes? You even picked the queen of spades as your company’s logo
The polo is basically the same length and weight as the southpaw and then y’all chose to compare against the polo k instead. SMH.
And it can be had at half the price!
notice how Kevin shit talks on every comment except the ones ragging on him for comparing the polo K to this can? he knows he pulled a sneaky one and he's trying to not get any attention to that fact
Can't have the Polo beat their new can in their funny haha skit.
@@REBMXhe has high fence hunting levels of sneakiness.
Didn’t wanna compare it against that full-size polonium did you lol
No. It’s loud at the ear, not durable, too much back pressure, heavy, mount and accuracy aren’t good. There’s a reason it’s cheap.
@@kevinbrittingham6774i mean, you’re completely wrong. Sure its “loud at ear” but extremely quiet to bystanders. Its also durable, for a stainless can. Mount? Hub threaded run anything you want. Sorry kevin but no man. Is it the best? No. For the price? Absolutely
@ 😂
@@skillercruz5539 but but it weighs .3 ounces more so it's too heavy! And apparently the OCL test mag dumping with the short barrel AR with the polonium easily passing means it's not durable. Apparently it also decreases accuracy, and direct thread and HUB compatible mounting isn't good 😂
@@kevinbrittingham6774bro what the hell are you even talking about
Why not show the full size ocl polonium
“Sound is not the most important factor”
“I’d much rather suck on some gas than be deaf”
Depends on how much you shoot, and how much lead you want in your lungs
Imagine producing a video that sells your competitors cans.
Imagine producing a video that anyone would watch.
@@kevinbrittingham6774I’d watch his videos. He obviously wouldn’t be comparing a K can that’s half the price as your garbage and nearly beating it anyway.
@@xaqtaargustaargus how’s it garbage?
@@kevinbrittingham6774 because you don’t make apples to apples comparisons. You took a v6 Camaro (polo k) and raced it against a base model v8 (your can) and left the SS (full size polo) in the garage. And now you’re doing a victory lap which is hilarious. You’re the embodiment of the meme of the dude standing on the podium biting a medal and he’s in 3rd place.
@@xaqtaargustaargus we can dissect that next. You called our silencer garbage, then you call it a V8. Explain it’s garbage. Bc I think you are ignorant and don’t know much about guns or silencers or automobiles. 🤷🏽♀️
Comparing a Q southpaw to a Polo K. Lol classic. A $1100+ can that is barely any noticable quieter then a K sized suppressor with less baffles that cost $400. Q is a joke for doing this type of video. Polo reins supreme!
Not the own they thought it was. I’ll take two polo k’s over their can. Their can seems like it performs decently well but it’s way overpriced
Durability, poi shift, accuracy, weight, back pressure, sound performance, flash performance, etc. It’s not a value at 1/2 the price.
@@kevinbrittingham6774 I'm guessing you bumped your head Kev. The polonium k does all those things better than your expensive southpaw can. 😂 You are a joke!
@@kevinbrittingham6774 You are a joke when it comes to suppressors. Get used to it. OCL just got free advertising 🤣
@@PDevoLi I’m the authority when it comes to silencers. No one has more nsn’s for silencers or won more contracts. 🤷🏽♀️
I believe the guy in the white coat has consumed a lot of lead paint chips.
And donuts
And lived under power lines.
So the Polonium is supposedly so bad to Kevin, thats his justification for not having it in the video, but yet the PoloK is, sounds contradictory.
You then ask commenters to define K, when comparing the Southpaw to the PoloK, instead of the full size, ok then use “common sense” remove the name and compare your can to the competitors that is closer in size, not the model that is 2” shorter. Disingenuous all around.
Different cans sound different, and priorities are different, that’s no problem, the problem people have with you and your company is the ego, trash talk, and disingenuous practices you continue to display.
We innovate and design, engineer, and produce the best products, not average products. The polio k is not 4”.
@@kevinbrittingham6774 Why don't you go ahead and include the vent, volos, and full size polonium in your next test then? After all, you supposedly make the best products.
@ we absolutely make the best products. Everything else is a wannabe. Send or bring anything and we will test it
So the Polonium is 1/2 the price of the Q with less length, less weight, and is only 3 decibels off the Q..... That's a no-brainer purchasing decision
Not a good value at even 1/2 the price. But, Savage makes stuff that makes sense for a lot of the Reddit crowd.
A 3 dB change yields a 100% increase in sound energy and just over a 23% increase in loudness. That’s means it’s a lot louder.
Don’t listen to people who start their sentences with ‘So’. Nothing they say matters.
@@kevinbrittingham6774 Why not?
@@NamSandwich1 it’s not good.
I didn’t realize Q was still in business. I thought they were closed I never see any shops carrying their stuff
They only need to sell one boomboz to stay in buisness this year 😂
Kevin claims the OCL has too much back pressure, but then in their own video description the Southpaw has a 5% higher Cyclic rate. Nice.
Not true.
@@kevinbrittingham6774👶🏻
Q really puts the Q in lgbtq
Is that what it is for? Damn and I haven't been on board this whole time? makes me feel like I missed the ball. Glad you were there first to let us know what that's all about.
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Loud Guns Be Tiny Quiet. Your welcome.
@@rudolphraindeer295 *you’re
I always had a feeling Kevin was a member of the LGHDTV community.
Why test the k instead of the full size polo?
Cuz it makes the southpaw sound quieter
The polo is a dog
@@kevinbrittingham6774 the southpaw is a movie
@@kevinbrittingham6774 Sure would have dogged on the southpaw lmao
If only there was an independent test laboratory that specialized in this... 🧐🤨
Jewscience? Don't you pay them a hefty sum for them to do a "good" review on your cans and peddle it on reddit? 🤣
@@boygonewhoopdataZZare they really oy vey?
Independent that charges mfg’s. Ok.
@@boygonewhoopdataZZwow, such evil behavior when they
* checks notes *
Charge cash for in depth testing.
I think you’ve lost the plot, maybe tone down the antisemitism if you have a good point to make.
@@kevinbrittingham6774did pewscience charge you when the full nelson rated top of the board for 300blk subs on the mini fix?
Who is this Kevin dude? Damn… the worst spokesperson Q could ever have. 🙄
The idiot in this video is Jay, not Kevin. However, Kevin is doing his thing in the comments.
Well we’ll just have to wait for pew science to post 😂
Thanks for the informative video! I was on the fence, but this video definitely helped me decide.
My next two cans will definitely be a Polonium and Polonium K.
😂
@@kevinbrittingham6774Bro don’t waste your time in these comments. Q is a great seller at my shop. I’ve got a list of people waiting on the Southpaw. People are gonna do what they want… Folks are excited and chomping at the bit to get there first Boombox here in N. Alabama!
@@DocKing87 except the Southpaw is sold exclusively through silencer shop.
Sounds like polo is the winner for half the price lol
You could get two full size polos and almost both stamps for the price of their 1 can.
If backpressure isn't a huge deal for ya and price is - I don't think there's much out there that touches OCL's stuff
😂
@@kevinbrittingham6774you laugh yet ocl is outselling you left right and center and has a way better reputation lol
@@Merk21 Yup and the back pressure can be mitigated with quite a few different products.
CAT WB
For real it's the direct competitor to the southpaw in terms of price and everything that they bragg about. The fact that it's missing is kind of telling...
@@thewonarmedbandit5615you can send us one to test. We will gladly test it.
@@kevinbrittingham6774Why does Q use the Cherry Bomb? Doesn’t it save weight to go with direct thread Nelsons on the Q tapered barrel? Also the Nelsons have more baffles so wouldn’t they be more quiet in addition to saving weight?
@@compositetiger having more baffles does not equate to being more quiet at least not in the examples I know of volume and shape of baffles usually slow it down. Otherwise cans would be 20 baffles with a quarter inch in between.
@@calebsone1630 I was referring specifically to Q’s 7.62 suppressors.
This is why the thumbs down counter is important.
Thanks for the support!
Q found Chum Lee's, slightly dumber, long lost twin.
What exactly was the criteria for picking things to compare to? You have have full size cans and K cans in the comparison.
The criteria was to choose anything that made their can sound better. I'd rather go with something else solely based on Q's rather inflated ego.
What are the measurements for K cans and full size cans? Weights?
@@kevinbrittingham6774 kek you know exactly what it refers to its the length of the can.
@@calebsone1630 I’m saying tell me where the cut off line is. I know what casuals mean, I’m asking you guys to define it. What if the requirement has a weight limit?
@@kevinbrittingham6774 This is why I asked what criteria they, the ones who made the video, used to select competitors to compare to. The Flow 556K and Polonium K are quite obviously K cans, and there are full size versions of both of those cans available that could have been chosen but for some reason were not. Asking us, the people in the comments, to define criteria for a selection not made by us is just nonsensical.
Sooooo go with polo k? Got it thx.
Jay definitely knows a guy who can get the best strains
🤣🤣
lol
💀🤣🤣
The other jay definitely not going to review any Q products from this point on 😂
They even mislabeled the OCL Polonium K, 14:47 they labeled it as the full size one. But hey, if it makes your product look better by misrepresenting other companies, then you gotta do what you gotta do…
OtterCreekLabs for the win!!!
they think we don't know the market better than them 🤣🤣
Interesting. All his excuses, I’d like to see what he has to say about that one.
That’s it, I’m sold. I’m buying another Polo
You need about 8 to last as long as the Southpaw on short barrels.
@@kevinbrittingham6774 With how long you guys take to warranty cans, that's still a no brainer lmao
@ how long do we take?
@@kevinbrittingham67746-8 weeks minimum on pretty much anything.
Have you ever heard of a warranty? Also, how come in the graph at the end of the video you say it’s a Polonium, not a Polonium K. Unbelievably scummy, and don’t know what your problem is.
Kevin’s main argument being calling people poor shows he has more dollars than sense
Perform an actual test and study the results. Sound, flash, durability of sound, durability, reliability, accuracy, poi shift, etc.
@ but, I should should buy cans so u know hitch one to buy? 😂
Yes, one is durability, one is sound before and after durability testing.
@ ok
@ that’s never happened. Ever. 🤷🏽♀️
@@thinkharder9332not lying. Everyone knows it. Just receive two new ones last weeks. You anonymous nobodys can’t cancel me.
Only showing cans they know are louder
I honestly don't think that was the point it was showing popular cans I assume.
So, since we are quieter than everything, we shouldn’t do testing?
@@kevinbrittingham6774 but didn't he say your can was better than and is the baseline? I really think this was just showing popular cans versus one of their popular cans. And k cans are popular I regret falling into that falling into the trap with a saker k. This video made me want an m4 2000. I am happy to see where the rc2 fell because I didn't buy it because it was the quietest but because it was a sturdy can. I just realized I thought you were arguing against the test. Lol
@kevinbrittingham6774 no no no please do testing with other cans to find ways to improve products.. After some thought, I did realize it would be bad marketing to show a quieter can, so the move to show this selection was wize on yalls part.
@ you can pick the next test cans
Nice ad for the OCL Polo lmao
I’m confused. So the southpaw does worse than the aac which kevin also made. The sig can Kevin made was one of the worst?
LMAO Q needs a better social media director, homie tanking his own brand.
Yes, our sales are suffering.
The trend of all Guntubers using the “comedic relief slowboi” needs to die. It’s not funny, just annoying and obscures the actual content. Nothing against the guy, gun videos were just better before they added forced comedy.
Noted.
No everything against the guy. Video drags on while we’re wait for home boi to finish his shitty jokes. Like, I get it’s the segue for the actual information that’s being presented but it gets annoying really quick.
This video was a miss for me. I don’t usually walk away from UA-cam videos feeling agitated. I’m also a Q customer, for whatever it’s worth. Fire the goober, and if you’re going to offer a semi-scientific comparison, let’s include the real apples to apples competitor models next time. 😅
Send in the silencers you’d like tested.
@@InternetSkeletor I’m not a silencer testing pro - what is wrong with the approach here? Would you rather them just shared a Google sheets doc with the figures?
@@kevinbrittingham6774 KB I want to begin by saying I enjoy watching the videos you’re in, & I dig your brand. You guys are innovators, & you put out fun gear. I have several Forms that say Q on them, & have convinced no less than 4 friends to pick up their own.
Regarding competitors cans, my only 5.56 can is an old M4-2000, that never actually seemed to work for its intended purpose. I’m on a waiting list to have AAC upgrade to Ranger 5, just to make it usable. But if I had a bunch of decent 5.56 cans to send, I probably wouldn’t be watching this video to find out if I should buy yours.. I get that you may have just used whatever ya’ll had on hand for the video, but in today’s ultra competitive market, using older models & a Polo K over the full length just stands out.. not in a good way.
All that to say, maybe I’m just not a fan of your colleague’s schtick. P.S. I guess he can stay on, but maybe he just doesn’t talk as much. 🤷🏻♂️ All love. ❤️
@ it’s difficult. Our only actual competition is SF and KAC. But, doesn’t make for entertaining video.
@@kevinbrittingham6774 seems like there are more out there, but perhaps some of their design differentiators i.e. flow-through , would not be apples to apples. 🍎 🍏. Either way, enjoying that deep drawn Porq Chop right now. Great work matching weight & performance. I appreciate that you’re on here mixing it up too. Merry Christmas dude. 🍻
Noticeable no CAT WB in this comparison. Huh
You know exactly why loll
Why the ocl k and not the full sized
Because they know it outperforms all of them
At half the cost
@@fastbanshee1999it doesn’t. Too much back pressure. Makes guns unreliable.
@@carls2210agreed, it’s cheap for a reason.
@kevinbrittingham6774 tell us you know nothing about silencers without telling us you know nothing about silencers.
I love how the old AAC shined. Old necessarily doesn’t mean bad or even outdated if it out performs.
Seeing the comments from Kevin…I genuinely feel bad for the guy and his company
full size polo would have messed up that pretty little bar graph. But on the bright side, this just tells everyone that a polo k is on par with an RC2 but is half the weight and 2" shorter. Pretty impressive.
😂
That depends. I own both and the polo K will toss flame at night pretty frequently. RC2 has almost no signature, minus the first round pop, under nvg. During the day, even with a pretty damn harsh firing schedule, the RC2 has 0 signature. Polo K is fantastic for the price, but it isn't really on par.
Should’ve done a comparison with all the 556 cans in the $1200 range on SS and not just focus on on dB ratings oh well we have pewscience anyways
Well, our tests can be repeated.
No CAT WB, hmmmm, typical Q bs, also no mention of tone and the south paw is decades old tech that is beaten in Db by a 40 year old ops inc, and the modern ops inc, the OCM5 is $400+ less than the southpaw, get real nerds
Mount, durability, flash, back pressure, sound performance, accuracy, poi shift, etc. We won everything with the South Paw. Yes, nerds did it 2 decades ago, and again with the South Paw.
@ hey it’s that guy
@@whiskey11niner the guy.
@@kevinbrittingham6774 lol calm down there bud
@@whiskey11niner I love how everyone talks tough on the internet while hiding behind some secret squirrel internet codename. Props there "Bud".
I don’t blame you for not including the cat white bread
I’ve seen more people decide to buy a polonium than a Q suppressor of any kind in this comment section lmao
People in these comments don’t buy products.
@@kevinbrittingham6774 alienation and grumbling is a bold strategy, let’s see how this plays out
@@kevinbrittingham6774 Want to bet? You're the one with nothing to lose, right?
@@peytonchapman6285 thousands backordered. 🤷🏽♀️ Always room for the best.
@@NamSandwich1 bet what?
I totally understand not wanting to do a "3rd party" pay to play testing (that doesn't have oversight), but damn what a ridiculous move for a company that touts how good it is to not even use a full size competitor can (OCL polonium), or the CAT WB. Its so clearly trying to rig it, you might as well have paid "third party testing" extra to give you a decent review. Yall can delete this video you know....
The video is terrific. The South Paw is a K can.
@@kevinbrittingham6774define a k can
@@kevinbrittingham6774 The full size polonium is a K can too, test the southpaw against it.
@@kevinbrittingham6774We can’t hear you, we went deaf from your can’s First Round Pop.
@@shadezactual2657 ok. Send us one.
Looks like Kevin shot himself in the foot again. In a futile attempt to trash other cans, he forgot his cans cost a hell of a lot more without getting any more. OCL thanks you!!
You casuals, ignoring the top 9 items in a top ten priority list…
All this accomplished was resulting in me ordering OCL for my next can
Better order 1/2 dozen for the same durability and maybe a dozen for the same sound durability. 🤷🏽♀️
@@kevinbrittingham6774👶🏻🍼
The incompetent bit got old real quick
Why the Polo K and not the full-size Polo? Would be a much better comparison...
Because they know the polo sounds awesome and I can't 100 percent say that it is but to me it sounds like it's quieter than the southpaw although I could be a little biased seeing how I own the polo full size
@@carolinaplinker Same. I have the Polo and Polo K. The Polo is the same size as the Southpaw. Kinda seems like they didn't want a fair comparison.
@@carolinaplinkerit’s high back pressure and loud at the shooter’s ear. Makes guns unreliable. There’s a reason it’s cheap. Send us one and we will test it.
@@crgray77it’s not fair. The pollo is a dog.
@@kevinbrittingham6774 I would agree but If I had to guess the southpaw would be lower back pressure. Easier to tune.
First video ever watched from Q and last video. What a doofus. That was brutal. Watched the entire thing just for the data, but barely made it through.
Thanks for stopping by…
Ok so buy a OCL. Got it. Thanks.
Impressive. Very nice. Let's see Otter Creek's full size
It sucks.
@@kevinbrittingham6774prove it
@qllc I’m not sure who is running your marketing department, but you may want to open the position back up. Kevin’s already trying to make up sales for the lack luster design with the high price tag by making appearances on every UA-cam channel he can. Getting a marketing team would help him a little.
If you think our sales are down, I’m guessing you don’t own or run a company, or a department at a company, or pay attention. 😂
@ show me the income statement and I’ll believe you.
@ throw in the balance sheet as well.
@@ethanstein1011 if you can’t see our growth and don’t understand marketing, you’re not going to understand a balance sheet. 💵
@@kevinbrittingham6774 that QC though 🤡
Saw some replies from the owner stating that the polonium is not a good can. Well… if it’s not a good can then why did you neglect to compare the full size to the southpaw? 😂 bit odd comparing a k can to your full size offering. Also many other cans who rate very highly on other end user and 3rd party testing evaluations that were left off of this comparison.
The south paw is our K can
6 inch can is a k can now. 😂
@@kevinbrittingham67746” k can 😂 the polo full size weighs so similar 13.2 vs 13.5 it doesn’t matter if you think you made a K can you failed at that
@ what’s max length for a K can?
@@gb12rulez the South Paw dominates all 5.56 cans
Love the unbiased “science “. 😂😂😂😂😂
So you think we cheated or lied?
@ correct
@@goldrush49 ok. About what? How?
@ well cheating and lying is a bit harsh but definitely not a good look
@@goldrush49 😂 ok, so you lied. No one is going for a “good look”. We are conveying facts and repeatable data.
I wonder how the data would stack up compared to the Hux 556 TI, their full size 556 can. Pretty sure it’s in the top 3 pew science ratings for 556 cans. Lighter, quieter, reduce blow back, and still full auto rated. They do spark though. Appreciate the data though :)
Hux is not awesome.
Better than the trash you put out though. Lol. @kevinbrittingham6774
Hux sux
Pay good money get good reviews. Low backpressure means louder. There is no way around it
@@harmongreeriii4163 u sending a check?
Why don’t W test PTR can? Its is rated one of quietest by pew science!!
Never heard of it. Pew sciences charges charges mfg’s.
Bros not gonna test anything he knows will outperform his because then he can’t act like he has the best overpriced turd on the market.
Kevin’s never heard of PTR! 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
Wow, pretty embarassing behavior from the owner in the comments section. I will not be sending any money Q's way. Ever.
Dang.
Confirms the M4-2000 was way ahead of its time ... I've had one on my SR15 for almost 15 years and it's still stupid quiet
Lol this is a commercial for not buying Q cans
that is not the Flow 556, that is the flow 556k, which you labeled in part of the graphic, but not the title of the graphic or what you called it
🤷🏽♀️ both are insulting loud.
BT. PTR. OCL. All better than Q stuff
😂
👶🏻🍼
Jay tries so hard to be Ricky from Trailer Park Boys and he gets pretty close.
Serious disrespect to Rick dude.
They were better off not doing the testing. Bet my ab warthog is quieter than these
1/2
So how loud were they at the ear? FRP does matter, that's one of the reasons the Flow 556K sucks. Love my old M42K but it's got a lot of port pop.
Not to rain on Jay’s Parade but just maybe 🤔 he should be seen and not heard so much 😮that’s right keeping that pie hole shut and let the Grownups talk and educate the masses on the facts. In today’s world with all the misinformation, keep it simple and informative. There will always be time to entertain us later with stories of your escapades in Africa
Thanks. But, we will continue to dominate and have fun.
@ all of that is false. Who are you and what do you do to have knowledge of anything you fabricated?
So for only 2x the price, i can get 3 decibels down from my polo k?!?!
3x quieter
Polonium K, not the Polonium…ok, now we all now for less money, we can get the Polonium which performs better than your product. 👍🏻
It doesn’t perform better than the South Paw.
@@kevinbrittingham6774was there a specific reason why the Polonium was left out for this comparison?
@@kevinbrittingham6774wow, profound.
Do an accuracy test on the fix. That would be a funny video....
It just won Precision Rifle of the year from Gun Media. So, good idea.
fs polonium wipes the floor with all these 😮 i said what i said
Can’t wait to see your test. And our durability and function test.
i’m just glad Kevin is in the chat 🤙 i don’t agree with handcuffed test. You wouldn’t either
@@paulbotta9930 I don’t agree with taking money for tests and reviews. We are honest. The numbers are what they are.
What a joke. Anyone who still thinks single number peak db is the right way to measure hazard from a suppressed gunshot has no business making or selling them. Pew Science is a real engineer who knows what he’s doing.
😂 Then why doesn’t he do real testing? Why does t the mil use him? Sound, flash, durability, durability of sound, reliability, size, weight, accuracy, poi shift, etc.?
@@thinkharder9332😂 we actually perform comprehensive testing. That’s how the mil picks us.
@@thinkharder9332😂 ok.
Why not include dead air, b&t, cat etc… doesn’t seem to be a representative test
Well, they don’t pay us or send us cans.
@@kevinbrittingham6774wasn’t that your criticism of pew?
@@tiredguy709 how does it makes sense for a competitor manufacturer to pay another manufacturer to be included in a marketing piece advertising something that isn’t their product?
@@hikeskool that’s not the point. The point is that Kevin has been critical of Pew, an independent testing org based on their fees for analysis of suppressors. For Kevin to use that same excuse as a reason for not testing similar competitor products is a bit hypocritical. All that being said I agree with you that it wouldn’t make sense for a competitor to pay to be in some other products advertising. So why are there any other cans in this video that aren’t made by pew? The only reasonable conclusion is that the cans featured were selectively chosen to make the southpaw look like the best thing available. If that is the case then they really should call it science.
@@tiredguy709 do you think you're taking this too seriously?
Yall should’ve compared the full size polonium
Send us one
Notice how the used the polo k and not the regular length
What’s wrong with the regular one I’m thinking about getting it over the k
@@millerlightoutdoors nothing is wrong with it at all. Many are speculating that it would have had better numbers than the Southpaw so they purposely didn’t include it.
@@millerlightoutdoorsI have the full size. It's REALLY GOOD
@@phoenixtx ohhhh that makes sense
@@4g63mark it’ll have to be my next purchase
Outside of the erector series and Plan B mounting solution, Q is way behind the curve.
Can’t wait to get my hands on the new OC INFINITY
😂
@@kevinbrittingham6774👶🏻🍼
“Yeah and it’s Tuesday”. Hahahaha
Lmao, Kevin comparing a full size can to a K can is peak Q, just like how the dude actively tried to portray 8.6 subs as better than 308 Winchester at 1,000 yards
The South Paw is a K can and is superior to everything on the market. I never said 8.6 subs were “better” than 308 at a 1,000 yards. I stated the fact that 8.6 subs have more energy and are high velocity at 1,000 yards than 16” 308. Stop being a loser.
@@flapjackoperator5599 ‘yeah well with a 450 grain bullet’ when there isn’t a factory loading over 350 grain
@ the South Paw is the best 5.56 can ever offered. It’s also a K can.
@@kevinbrittingham6774 yet it's larger than any other K can on the market. This is like calling the M16 a carbine lmao. Anyway I love how you ignored me calling out how you also mislead performance on your 8.6
@@flapjackoperator5599 pls list a definition of K can or all K cans and there lengths.
I didn’t mislead anything. You just aren’t being honest or you are just ignorant to the facts of what I actually said. What said is correct and is that “8.6 subs are higher velocity and energy on target at 1,000 yards than a 16” .308 at 1,000 yards.” Run the numbers. 8.6 sub 350 gr. is 870 fps at 1,000. 308 150 gr. supers are 800fps at 1,000 yards.
I really dig this content setup of Media guy vs Engineer. Keep em coming
"You can't just report peak DB, you need to do analysis on the complete waveform" then proceed to only publish peak DB numbers, and samples were only collected from the muzzle to boot LOL. You guys have clearly not learned a single thing about making effective silencers since the mid 2000's. Shame on you.
Then how is the South Paw the best?
@@kevinbrittingham6774 Spoiler alert: It's not. Even your own testing here has it slightly louder than the legacy M4-2000. Here's a hot tip KB: actually hire the proper Engineering specialty and your results may actually improve - Fluid Dynamics.
@@Argentum7756 it is. In the priority top 10 categories, it wins by a wide margin. The “legacy” can that I designed 20 years ago, still beats everything for sound, mil-std. 🤷🏽♀️💅🏻 Welcome to take your advice if you can name anything you’ve accomplished that any of us would care about. We’ll wait.
Been trying to tell these flow through boys out there, those things are too loud. Just get an adjustable gas block if gas to the face is a big deal for you.
Yup.
@@thinkharder9332 MP5-SD too.
Ill still take 2 polo K cans for the overpriced Q can.
The South Paw is a better value.
@kevinbrittingham6774 of course in your opinion it will be. But the average american who makes 90-100k a year (which now has a value of about 50k only) the polo or polo k is by far a better value in almost every aspect except for a few DBs of sound. In my opinion almost every can thats 1100-2k and above is kind of a joke of a price when compared to some other cans that come in at hundreds of dollars less and hit every other mark. Not to mention the 200 jew fee for the average american is already a kick in the dick in this shit hole economy.
@@4RunnerRigatoniif it lasts
@kevinbrittingham6774 and it most likely will, and if it doesn't they will warranty it if something happens. I think the main takeaway from this is most people most spend double on a can that is a few DBs lower. If your can was 800 bucks then maybe. But not 1200. Same with the RC3. We can all agree that 1700-1800 for a can is hilarious.
@@4RunnerRigatoni bro that’s a lot of words to say “it’s too expensive for me and there are other options that cost less money” 👌
This was worse than a B rated movie😂 fucking painful
This has been a great OCL polonium advertisement lol
Thought this was an ad for Jay’s OF. Oh well, still good stuff.
It’s going to be 🔥
@ He’s going to be running the company, head of engineering, AND an OF? Dude is rolling in dough.
So you're testing the loudest cans possible? I don't get it. CAT has set the bar so you can't really test anything without putting it side by side with the Alleycat or WB. I've had time behind the Dead Air Sandman S as well and am a fan. The Huxwrx cans are loud as sh*t.
The sandman is horrible.
Finally j put his boots on the ground 😂 we love you fam
Wonder what the results look like measured at the shooters ear and further down range as well.
I wonder what a durability test looks like…
@@kevinbrittingham6774I guarantee the polonium is more durable than any can you have created
@@kevinbrittingham6774we do too. Show us one to substantiate your durability claims
What type of ammo are yall using?
Wow that was rough.
The fix, a honey badger and a southpaw was on my wanted list, but now not so much.
Awww. Too bad.
The owner of the company alienating prospective customers speaks volumes. SpecterCat, OCL, and FOR Systems are the way.
@ 👋🏼
Is it not sound signature? We've heard the sound....how about the signature? Especially at night!
What about that otter creek 556 can? Hmmm
It’s in there
@@kevinbrittingham6774the ocl is 23% louder and much gassier too.
@@fleetothemountains630Compare it to their full sized can then and not the K. Better yet, compare it to their upcoming flow through cans. There is zero excuse to buy q nowadays
@@mynameisjeff6988 logistically, how would they compare something that’s “upcoming?”
A question for Q LLC engineers. Do we humans hear sound waves or decibels? If sound is a waveform why did u present db numbers and not waveforms?
Mil-std and simplicity. We prefer doubters be able to replicate our testing, and for everyone be able to understand the test and results.
Yeap, I agree with dude. Ya should compared with some of cat cans!
Thanks for helping me decide I’ll never buy your products from your childish behavior in the comments.
This is the beginning of the end folks.