Corner Brook has been non-commissioned for years, so I hope all the upgrades are effective. I know Canada bought these 4 obsolete electric diesel Victoria class subs from Great Britain in 1998, and the HMCS Victoria was the only commissioned one at that time. I heard one of these caught on fire (not sure which one)and a crewman was killed. I know it's a bad thing to say, but for the cost of the upgrades done to these subs it would have been a better route to bought modern ones from the US, France or Germany. I don't know why the Canadian government doesn't invest more into their navy considering we have one of the largest water ways in the world.
The submarine you are speaking about is HMCS Chicoutimi, and you are correct, sadly Lieutenant (Navy) Chris Saunders died on that initial sail in 2004. The sub was repaired and has since gone on to conduct one of the longest deployments of the Victoria class submarines to date (in the Asia Pacific region). Canada has recently established a submarine project office to look at the future of subs in Canada. They have to start that now as the procurement process is so long, but at least it's happening.
That's awesome. It will be on the next Canadian Star Trek series. Captain Trudorf and his trusty Vulcan sidekick Crosseyed Freeloader. When the producer explained to Trudeau the damned thing was for going under the water not outer space, he was really upset and needed a rest. So he jetted to Latvia, UK, Middle East. Africa, South America, Australia, and south Korea. Then I heard he was looking for good WW1 and 2 good used equipment for our military so he could play war. Sorry folks was just sitting here bored.
Having the Victoria class of submarine operate until 2032 seems to be having too high expectations of them. Canada should be planning to replace them sooner than that.
The Royal Canadian Navy has recently opened a program office to look into follow-on submarines after the Victoria class. It will take years, so gotta start now.
REPLACE THEM HAHAHA the stupid Canadian gov all bought them used in 2013 and takes 7 years to fix one its ridiculous and a waste of our money for used junk that's so old you'd get blown out of the water in a heartbeat
Nice video. At the very beginning you can see the corner of an office building and Colwood right next to it. A long time ago my family lived in a PMQ right around the corner from that office building. This sure brings back memories.
Did the ruptured ballast tank caused by an abnormal procedure used to empty the ballast after a successful test was completed get properly fixed? The question really is did the ballast tank get replaced with a new tank so as to ensure that there would be no limitations placed on the subs ability to dive to 200 meters?
were not the biggest but we keep our equipment updated with best technolgy and our sailors fed and paid good, plus we have 15 new attack ships coming all kinds of new stuff by 2030 we will be a highly advanced country with the best equipment in the world, and 130 new fighter jets
@@abrahamdozer6273 yes this had orginally started that the RCN gave up the last 6 batch3 Halifax frigates for up to 12 SSN. That was never going to happen, as the USN and RN didnt want canada to have SSN as it would impede their SSN operations. Once the federal govt caved to the American govts no the RN threw the Cupholders at Canada, as a peace offering. We should have kept the batch3 frigates and when the 4 O boats left, so did the sub service, or force the RN or USN to provide something better the RN didnt want the Cupholders, so the pawned them off on Canada so the British govt couldn't force the RN to give up nuke boats in favor of the Cupholders. WIN WIN for the RN.
@@jonathantarrant2449 The SSNs that we were going to buy were Trafalgar Class. What we got (in exchange for leases at CFB Suffield) were the only four conventional diesel/electric versions of the Trafalgar Class that the Brits made before they decided to go strictly "nuclear". A 12 boat nuclear submarine fleet is not sustainable in Canada. Part (or maybe most) of the original rationale back in the 80s for those nuclear boats was to patrol the Canadian Arctic with them. Whoever thought that one up never looked at charts of the waters of our really complex Arctic Archipelago. They would have been a nightmare to navigate under the ice in those narrow and sometime shallow places. There is zero chance of submarines traversing them surfaced with even a skin of ice on them (Surfacing under the polar ice is NOT moving forward, surfaced in polar ice.) What eventually happened makes more sense by building dedicated Arctic specialist vessels. As the ice cover retreats in the Arctic, they have more and more freedom to patrol, too. Subs? ... expensive, dangerous and not up to the mission. ps. our allies are delighted that we have diesel-electric boats to practice against. They are MUCH harder to detect, find than nuclear subs, who always have that pressurized water kettle boiling away all of the time..Electric boats just have to "switch off" everything and they totally disappear.As most of the US Navy's adversaries have diesel/ electric subs, practising against noisy nukes will not teach them the skills that they will need in real combat. pps Where in der heck did "cupholder" come from? ... a right wing mag from the Prairies?
@@abrahamdozer6273 cupholders, are a playoff upholders class. These submarines are a chance for officers to advance putting in time peirside, making them admiral cupholders as I hold my coffee. The last l heard was, that the 12 submarine were actually going to be French SSN as the Brits and americans didnt want Canada at the nuke party. We should have kept the batch 3 stretched halifax. The last 4 of them could have been AAW destroyers and been a true replacement for the Iroquois DDH to get the fleet numbers down under 20. The 4 submarines are an expensive play toy. Only 1 has been operational at anyone time, the other 3 have been peirside or docked. The O boats were lucky if 2 were operational at any one time and we had a 4th O boat tied to the dock at all times for a trainer, so it didnt take away from the other 3.
Initially, I thought the tug boat was moving too fast to be real. Then I realised it is a time-lapse video, making everything look like a lego toy, including the tug boats and people walking around.
Think about it folks 8 years out of the water, what a joke, supposed to be below the surface doing its job. Another lemon courtesy of the federal government. Upgraded to what? 2013 specs?
wat a nice looking sub , by 2030 canada should have 65 percent of all its new war ships , subs , fighter aircraft , and 10 more c 17 transport plans plus our own refueling aircraft , its finnaly starting to show
@@klausschlobluvsmesometwood4679 fucking trudeo taking away our guns and wont invest anything into our armed forces, i think he wants our soilders fighting with waterguns , real guns are to dangerious in his words , he always thinks we can just rely on the states for protection what a joke
@@klausschlobluvsmesometwood4679 well the RCAF doesn't want new aircraft. How does this become political? oh I get it your politics overpowers your ability to comprehend.
@@TheJOSHTAY100 scary thing is O'toole won't cancel the fighter program and the warships are so far beyond the comprehension of Conservatives. They have never purchased a real warship in Canada's history. An aor yes and patrol vessels but no warships ever
Corner Brook has been non-commissioned for years, so I hope all the upgrades are effective. I know Canada bought these 4 obsolete electric diesel Victoria class subs from Great Britain in 1998, and the HMCS Victoria was the only commissioned one at that time. I heard one of these caught on fire (not sure which one)and a crewman was killed. I know it's a bad thing to say, but for the cost of the upgrades done to these subs it would have been a better route to bought modern ones from the US, France or Germany. I don't know why the Canadian government doesn't invest more into their navy considering we have one of the largest water ways in the world.
The submarine you are speaking about is HMCS Chicoutimi, and you are correct, sadly Lieutenant (Navy) Chris Saunders died on that initial sail in 2004.
The sub was repaired and has since gone on to conduct one of the longest deployments of the Victoria class submarines to date (in the Asia Pacific region).
Canada has recently established a submarine project office to look at the future of subs in Canada. They have to start that now as the procurement process is so long, but at least it's happening.
They say all warships are haunted. Kind of early for this untimely death in peace.
Rest sailor.
That's awesome. It will be on the next Canadian Star Trek series. Captain Trudorf and his trusty Vulcan sidekick Crosseyed Freeloader. When the producer explained to Trudeau the damned thing was for going under the water not outer space, he was really upset and needed a rest. So he jetted to Latvia, UK, Middle East. Africa, South America, Australia, and south Korea. Then I heard he was looking for good WW1 and 2 good used equipment for our military so he could play war.
Sorry folks was just sitting here bored.
Having the Victoria class of submarine operate until 2032 seems to be having too high expectations of them. Canada should be planning to replace them sooner than that.
The Royal Canadian Navy has recently opened a program office to look into follow-on submarines after the Victoria class. It will take years, so gotta start now.
REPLACE THEM HAHAHA the stupid Canadian gov all bought them used in 2013 and takes 7 years to fix one its ridiculous and a waste of our money for used junk that's so old you'd get blown out of the water in a heartbeat
@@goboldwithjoeteyattariwala buy some russian subs lol
Victoria BC has 2 submarines now and can remember HMCS Victoria spent most of it drydock
Good footage, shame about the music
Nice video. At the very beginning you can see the corner of an office building and Colwood right next to it. A long time ago my family lived in a PMQ right around the corner from that office building. This sure brings back memories.
Thanks for the kind words. I'm glad I could bring back some of those memories for you :)
Yeah, it can float. But can it fight?
It has been fitted with modern systems, so I suspect it can.
Same sensor suite as the SeaWolf class and stealthy as hell. She's a fighter.
@@klausschlobluvsmesometwood4679 well Jane's has a very different opinion
With the latest generation Mk48 torpedoes…you bet.
Did the ruptured ballast tank caused by an abnormal procedure used to empty the ballast after a successful test was completed get properly fixed? The question really is did the ballast tank get replaced with a new tank so as to ensure that there would be no limitations placed on the subs ability to dive to 200 meters?
Thumbs down for the lousy overpowered music.
were not the biggest but we keep our equipment updated with best technolgy and our sailors fed and paid good, plus we have 15 new attack ships coming all kinds of new stuff by 2030 we will be a highly advanced country with the best equipment in the world, and 130 new fighter jets
88 new fighter jets, not 130.
After the refit, i assume it has at least Alexa or Cortana personal assistant.
She's a beauty!
She's looking good.
Should be we have wasted more money on these 4 cupholder class submarines then was needed
@@jonathantarrant2449 Should be we have different optionals?
@@abrahamdozer6273 yes this had orginally started that the RCN gave up the last 6 batch3 Halifax frigates for up to 12 SSN. That was never going to happen, as the USN and RN didnt want canada to have SSN as it would impede their SSN operations. Once the federal govt caved to the American govts no the RN threw the Cupholders at Canada, as a peace offering. We should have kept the batch3 frigates and when the 4 O boats left, so did the sub service, or force the RN or USN to provide something better the RN didnt want the Cupholders, so the pawned them off on Canada so the British govt couldn't force the RN to give up nuke boats in favor of the Cupholders. WIN WIN for the RN.
@@jonathantarrant2449 The SSNs that we were going to buy were Trafalgar Class. What we got (in exchange for leases at CFB Suffield) were the only four conventional diesel/electric versions of the Trafalgar Class that the Brits made before they decided to go strictly "nuclear". A 12 boat nuclear submarine fleet is not sustainable in Canada. Part (or maybe most) of the original rationale back in the 80s for those nuclear boats was to patrol the Canadian Arctic with them. Whoever thought that one up never looked at charts of the waters of our really complex Arctic Archipelago. They would have been a nightmare to navigate under the ice in those narrow and sometime shallow places. There is zero chance of submarines traversing them surfaced with even a skin of ice on them (Surfacing under the polar ice is NOT moving forward, surfaced in polar ice.)
What eventually happened makes more sense by building dedicated Arctic specialist vessels. As the ice cover retreats in the Arctic, they have more and more freedom to patrol, too. Subs? ... expensive, dangerous and not up to the mission.
ps. our allies are delighted that we have diesel-electric boats to practice against. They are MUCH harder to detect, find than nuclear subs, who always have that pressurized water kettle boiling away all of the time..Electric boats just have to "switch off" everything and they totally disappear.As most of the US Navy's adversaries have diesel/ electric subs, practising against noisy nukes will not teach them the skills that they will need in real combat.
pps Where in der heck did "cupholder" come from? ... a right wing mag from the Prairies?
@@abrahamdozer6273 cupholders, are a playoff upholders class. These submarines are a chance for officers to advance putting in time peirside, making them admiral cupholders as I hold my coffee. The last l heard was, that the 12 submarine were actually going to be French SSN as the Brits and americans didnt want Canada at the nuke party. We should have kept the batch 3 stretched halifax. The last 4 of them could have been AAW destroyers and been a true replacement for the Iroquois DDH to get the fleet numbers down under 20. The 4 submarines are an expensive play toy. Only 1 has been operational at anyone time, the other 3 have been peirside or docked. The O boats were lucky if 2 were operational at any one time and we had a 4th O boat tied to the dock at all times for a trainer, so it didnt take away from the other 3.
Initially, I thought the tug boat was moving too fast to be real. Then I realised it is a time-lapse video, making everything look like a lego toy, including the tug boats and people walking around.
all the 4 subs have been painted all new technolgy , then in 2026 we get 8 new subs
Think about it folks 8 years out of the water, what a joke, supposed to be below the surface doing its job. Another lemon courtesy of the federal government. Upgraded to what? 2013 specs?
try an education without politics and investigate Jane's opinion
Here we have an prime example of Canadian Liberal government military procurement.
wat a nice looking sub , by 2030 canada should have 65 percent of all its new war ships , subs , fighter aircraft , and 10 more c 17 transport plans plus our own refueling aircraft , its finnaly starting to show
Trudeo will be outta office soon as Erin otoole will be voted on he will change things , he already said
@@klausschlobluvsmesometwood4679 fucking trudeo taking away our guns and wont invest anything into our armed forces, i think he wants our soilders fighting with waterguns , real guns are to dangerious in his words , he always thinks we can just rely on the states for protection what a joke
need no more heavy lifters
@@klausschlobluvsmesometwood4679 well the RCAF doesn't want new aircraft. How does this become political? oh I get it your politics overpowers your ability to comprehend.
@@TheJOSHTAY100 scary thing is O'toole won't cancel the fighter program and the warships are so far beyond the comprehension of Conservatives. They have never purchased a real warship in Canada's history. An aor yes and patrol vessels but no warships ever
En effet il flotte bien
Too bad we didn't buy brand new Dolphin class. Six of them and split them between the coasts.
Ok il flotte mais il va-t-il sous l’eau
see brand new paint and all new updated technolgy,
Your drone at 9:10? 🤔
I wish... would be nice to have.
When you buy the Brits' junk at a rebate...
Try not to crash it.
its like changing a motor u have a 350 bigblock take it out and put a bigger new enigine in it
Ruined by stupid music