Boxing Is Insufferable To Watch & That's Why It's A Dying Sport

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  • Опубліковано 4 жов 2024
  • In this video I discuss how horrible the production and promotion was for Tyson Fury vs Francis Ngannou. I also compare the UFC and how they run their show to different boxing promotions. I compare press conferences, promotion of undercards, production and more. What do you guys think? Let me know in the comments.
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  • @coreymcnulty5125
    @coreymcnulty5125 11 місяців тому +1221

    i hadn’t realized how good ufc production was until i started watching boxing it’s literally night and day

    • @clearlyalunhead1109
      @clearlyalunhead1109 11 місяців тому +209

      2 hours between the co main and main is insane

    • @michael-pg8fi
      @michael-pg8fi 11 місяців тому +90

      People are paying $80 for 1 fight

    • @binky777
      @binky777 11 місяців тому +38

      Same with one, bareknuckle and bellator. Ufc really the only fighting platform to watch.

    • @YouAintGotNoTegridyBoi
      @YouAintGotNoTegridyBoi 11 місяців тому +38

      This wasn't your average boxing event, this was a Saudi spectacle to promote their country. The concerts and all the time wasting between fights is unacceptable in any regular boxing event of course.

    • @Solodolo84
      @Solodolo84 11 місяців тому +17

      ​@@YouAintGotNoTegridyBoiexactly, this was a circus. It ain't always like that, but the robbery bs need to stop

  • @adequatequality
    @adequatequality 11 місяців тому +254

    In MMA, you could have 10 fights and be regarded as an exciting up and coming talent that needs to be marketed. In boxing, you could be 30-0 and no one has a clue who you are whilst still continuing to fight on mediocre undercards.

    • @marcuselvard5922
      @marcuselvard5922 11 місяців тому +3

      So true

    • @davidlicea9192
      @davidlicea9192 11 місяців тому +44

      I know, freaking Bo Nickal was 3-0 and he was in the main card.

    • @GoodStuff1992
      @GoodStuff1992 11 місяців тому +8

      boxing has too many rounds

    • @mikerhem1273
      @mikerhem1273 11 місяців тому +15

      @@davidlicea9192 Lol i don't follow wrestling At all and Even I knew who Bo was a full year before entering UFC. Dana promotes the fuck outta characters before the star is born. Bob arum promotes himself. Its kinda disgusting

    • @rais6036
      @rais6036 11 місяців тому +1

      ​@@GoodStuff1992and belts

  • @mishoniwanniman8321
    @mishoniwanniman8321 11 місяців тому +596

    One thing everyone should be able to agree on, the undercards are an objective severe downgrade in boxing. Even just last week, we saw what happens when a main event falls through in the UFC. The co-main takes up the main event slot and fills the void with EASE. In boxing, when the main event goes, the whole card sinks.

    • @YouAintGotNoTegridyBoi
      @YouAintGotNoTegridyBoi 11 місяців тому +10

      The undercard for that fight was good but I guess you didn't know who you were watching.

    • @LVEPablo
      @LVEPablo 11 місяців тому +85

      @@YouAintGotNoTegridyBoinobody cares about a up and comer smacking a can, UFC has ELITE matchmaking and boxing does not come close to the worst fight night

    • @Who-vd3mx
      @Who-vd3mx 11 місяців тому +28

      @@YouAintGotNoTegridyBoinoone knows who theyre watching cuz boxing has theyre big stars and everyone else doesnt matter. They cant create interest like mma can.

    • @mishoniwanniman8321
      @mishoniwanniman8321 11 місяців тому +4

      @@YouAintGotNoTegridyBoi i wasn't even referring to this one specifically, just in general

    • @fmgmack
      @fmgmack 11 місяців тому +5

      @@LVEPablopure cap y’all literally had maybe the greatest female boxer ever (and make no mistake female boxing isn’t wmma) on the undercard. Just admit you don’t know the boxers and move on. Or become a real fan of both like me 🤷🏿‍♂️

  • @siraajuddin736
    @siraajuddin736 11 місяців тому +274

    I mean MMA fans know this already. I’m just glad to see that the boxing fans got to see it.
    Too many belts,
    too many weight classes,
    press conferences and rivalries aren’t as interesting
    The promoters are too involved.
    Too much emphasis on being undefeated.
    Not enough stars in boxing.
    The best don’t fight the best and the Fans are somewhat accepting that the best fights won’t happen.
    In the MMA, I somewhat believe that no one is afraid of no one.
    I think the issue is, they think it’s just sloppy street fighting. When in actuality, it’s two skilled and experienced Mixed Martial artist figuring each other out.

    • @vongola11thboss67
      @vongola11thboss67 11 місяців тому +19

      Most of the points you've made some boxing fans know and speak out on.

    • @YouAintGotNoTegridyBoi
      @YouAintGotNoTegridyBoi 11 місяців тому +5

      ​@@vongola11thboss67 pretty much everyone is on board with that now, I don't think he's aware how attitudes have evolved in boxing.

    • @Solodolo84
      @Solodolo84 11 місяців тому +11

      ​@YouAintGotNoTegridyBoi he's not. He's a mma guy. So certain talking points been ran in the ground in boxing circles. The more things change, the more they stay the same smh

    • @crunchypunchfn7880
      @crunchypunchfn7880 11 місяців тому +7

      Boxing in a nutshell

    • @fuhjrvr7474
      @fuhjrvr7474 11 місяців тому +3

      said perfectly

  • @Gimmemi
    @Gimmemi 11 місяців тому +92

    I noticed these boxing events have a identity crisis, it’s like they don’t know whether to make it a.. Spectacle.. a Formal gathering.. a Savage blood sport.. or a Youthful festival. It’s like each one of those done poorly and half heartedly.

    • @CorvoAttano21
      @CorvoAttano21 11 місяців тому +2

      Damn, that’s accurate

    • @YouAintGotNoTegridyBoi
      @YouAintGotNoTegridyBoi 11 місяців тому +2

      These are Saudi sports washing events. Most boxing events don't go like this, Canelo cards have none of this nonsense for example.

    • @yoaregey7296
      @yoaregey7296 11 місяців тому +17

      @@YouAintGotNoTegridyBoi brotha i see you defending Boxing with your life in all these comment lmaoo just like lucas said. Come over to MMA man it is superior in every way😂😂

    • @YouAintGotNoTegridyBoi
      @YouAintGotNoTegridyBoi 11 місяців тому

      @@yoaregey7296 I'm an MMA fan and a boxing fan, what I don't like is MMA fans who can't respect boxing out of some weird insecurity that a single martial art is more popular than all of them combined into one. Lucas preempting that someone's gonna call out his uninformed boxing takes for what they are is obvious. Lucas knows better than anyone that he talks an immense amount of total bs with utter confidence, of course people check him on it.

    • @Z4NKA1
      @Z4NKA1 11 місяців тому +6

      @@yoaregey7296it’s true tho, and most boxing fans already watch mma. MMA fans hate boxing from some weird inferiority complex and feel the need to discredit it as much as possible 😂

  • @robsrevenge
    @robsrevenge 11 місяців тому +90

    I hate how this was treated like some kinda superbowl 😭. And the glorified halftime show before the main event was such a snooze fest.

    • @LonganWaters
      @LonganWaters 11 місяців тому +4

      I wouldn't mind a half time show if the rest of the card was good which it wasn't

    • @None-s3d
      @None-s3d 18 днів тому

      The world wasn’t created 10 years ago bro

  • @FightRecap
    @FightRecap 11 місяців тому +298

    As a hardcore boxing fan I was completely embarrassed to be a boxing fan last night, it’s a circus now and I just wish that actual good fights like inoue vs Fulton or Spence vs Crawford would get the same amount of attention as these fury vs ngannou and KSI vs fury bs, it’s just a shame man recently I’ve been very underwhelmed with these fight like canelo vs charlo and what we saw yesterday, makes me glad that I’m a hardcore fan of both boxing and the ufc

    • @deed3440
      @deed3440 11 місяців тому +24

      Agreed. Inoue and Crawford should not be put on the same class as Fury after yesterday’s circus but on a greater scale. Those two guys are truly the best in the world.

    • @DC-pb6xq
      @DC-pb6xq 11 місяців тому +21

      I mostly agree with this but comparing Ngannou boxing to KSI boxing is insane

    • @Solodolo84
      @Solodolo84 11 місяців тому +3

      @@DC-pb6xq it really is

    • @FightRecap
      @FightRecap 11 місяців тому +18

      @@DC-pb6xq point is that these gimmicky fights that get promoted to oblivion, wasn’t the best comparison my fault but u get where I’m coming from

    • @Solodolo84
      @Solodolo84 11 місяців тому

      @@LuminationXP Brock was given the chance to become champion. Frank was in a exhibition situation that if really real, the suits would've finessed him, even though he was the better fighter. Let frank fight more, he'll get a shot if he wanted it. But will the suits let him?.... that's the sad part.

  • @giovannigiorgio831
    @giovannigiorgio831 11 місяців тому +96

    One of the biggest boxing failures is they fail to build any prospects. The UFC excels at that. Bo Nickal, Mohammad Mokaev, Umar Nurmagomedov. You know to watch these guys long before they get the title shot. In boxing, you don’t know who to watch until after they’ve won multiple belts. By the time I wanted to watch guys like Canelo or Gervonta Davis, they were already multiple time champs.

    • @lilshrimp5781
      @lilshrimp5781 11 місяців тому +17

      And we just saw Shara make his debut last week who was being really hyped up by the ufc, never heard a word about whose on the fury ngannou undercard or even co main

    • @rajyavardhansingh4491
      @rajyavardhansingh4491 11 місяців тому +4

      ​@@lilshrimp5781same with Pereira 2 years ago

    • @Z4NKA1
      @Z4NKA1 11 місяців тому +3

      No prospects? Curmel motion? Andy Cruz? Keyshawn Davis? Jaron ennis? Jared Anderson? Ben Whittaker? Xander zayas? How are there no prospects??

    • @giovannigiorgio831
      @giovannigiorgio831 11 місяців тому +16

      @@Z4NKA1 I don't mean there are no prospects at all. I mean that boxing promoters do very little to bring attention to prospects before they reach the big time.

    • @Solodolo84
      @Solodolo84 11 місяців тому +2

      This is why I've been saying it for years!!!!! BRING BACK TUESDAY NIGHT FIGHTS!!!!! call up Sean O'Grady and the crew and day get busy 🥊🥊🥊🥊 That was the best. Easily accessible quality fights weekly and on top of that, you saw the rise of fighters and got to see established vets come out to fight. I miss those days 🥊🥊🥊🥊🫡💯

  • @Doffel
    @Doffel 11 місяців тому +23

    Boxing itself is a beautiful sport, but the politics ruin it so much

  • @bornmenu
    @bornmenu 11 місяців тому +236

    As a dude who prefers watching boxing over mma Lucas is 100% correct. Boxing is so stuck in the stone ages with promotion its actually embarrassing, if they want to actually succeed 20+ years from now they need to do something ASAP, even though boxing does better numbers than the ufc(excluding mcgregor of course)how many of those dudes are old heads who won't be here in 30 years? The UFC has been killing it with promotion the past couple years and I guarantee if you ask a group of 20 year olds about top mma fighters, they would probably know about them more than top boxers. It's actually sad cause when the best fight the best it's really a beautiful sport.

    • @YouAintGotNoTegridyBoi
      @YouAintGotNoTegridyBoi 11 місяців тому +9

      You clearly don't watch a lot of boxing if you think all of boxing is in the stone ages with promotion when Canelo and AJ are massive superstars even with their setbacks. MMA has been struggling more lately than boxing due to many big fights not happening (it's main advantage over boxing) yet this one event happens and suddenly that's all been reversed. Being a tad emotional about it now.

    • @uhder8464
      @uhder8464 11 місяців тому +61

      @@YouAintGotNoTegridyBoi many big fights not happening? volk islam 2, khamzat usman, covington edwards, jiri pereira, shavkat wonderboy, sergei aspinall, what are you talking about?

    • @dbspew
      @dbspew 11 місяців тому +2

      @@uhder8464These are not money fights

    • @uhder8464
      @uhder8464 11 місяців тому +40

      @@dbspew whats a money fight then, we said big fights not money fight, and those are just fights from a quarter of the year i didnt even list the ones earlier in the year

    • @rigovalentine
      @rigovalentine 11 місяців тому +23

      @@dbspewneither are thos eyou mentioned? The only moneyfights youve had in the past years is Tankv Garcia and spence v crawford, Wheres fury vs usyk, Aj vs wilder? Canelo vs Benavidez? Tank vs Haney? Shakur v Haney? Teofimo fighting those guys? Crawford fighting ennis and vergil? Charlo vs Andrade/GGG

  • @JPSenpai
    @JPSenpai 11 місяців тому +88

    My friend is a professional boxer, and what you say about the event dragging on forever is exactly correct. The start will be delayed by an hour, there will be 30 minutes between each fight, there will be an 1.5 hour intermission for some sound cloud rapper to perform, then before the main event some chick sings the national anthem, and finally after 8 hours we get to the main event, despite there only having been about 6 before. It's torture to sit through.

    • @mikerhem1273
      @mikerhem1273 11 місяців тому +5

      Lol 2 things I will never buy a ticket for is a boxing event and a baseball game. Question is which one is more dreadful to sit through

    • @rayist1520
      @rayist1520 11 місяців тому

      Then your friend either lying or he doesn't exist because there are barely any fights that have concerts in the intermission and the main event only comes out late in the case that they are not ready. This is only differnt on freakshow fights like the one you watched.

    • @nitrox1613
      @nitrox1613 11 місяців тому +1

      I have 4 friends who grew up wrestling but only train boxing rn. They don’t even watch boxing only UFC because of production and it’s more exciting

  • @jdw2592
    @jdw2592 11 місяців тому +214

    Congratulations to boxing on making a resurgence and becoming the best sport in the world

    • @thecinemadon
      @thecinemadon 11 місяців тому +76

      Lucas Tracy curse doesn’t just apply to fights it applies to sports as a whole now 🤣

    • @CartoonSlug
      @CartoonSlug 11 місяців тому +17

      LMAO

    • @saltyman66
      @saltyman66 11 місяців тому +14

      Broooo 😭😭💀💀💀💀

    • @Cunnybapist
      @Cunnybapist 11 місяців тому +4

      Fr

    • @roidedup2489
      @roidedup2489 11 місяців тому +2

      ​@@thecinemadon🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣😮😮😮😮😮❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️

  • @martinlarrivee5081
    @martinlarrivee5081 11 місяців тому +39

    The pace of the UFC is just perfect. Please don't change anything.

    • @champ1159
      @champ1159 11 місяців тому +1

      Less ads would be ideal but that's never gonna happen

    • @ayyyyok
      @ayyyyok 11 місяців тому +1

      @@champ1159 ⁠BBBBB K, have it your way. You rule!

  • @Cesar1492Enjoyer
    @Cesar1492Enjoyer 11 місяців тому +23

    I like boxing and think it’s a beautiful sport but Mayweather economics have ruined it for me. Nothing more insufferable than hearing boxers talking about money.

  • @colbymclemore7642
    @colbymclemore7642 11 місяців тому +34

    Bob Arum is privileged to even be alive at this point.

  • @coenh8735
    @coenh8735 11 місяців тому +35

    I was about to be so disappointed that you didn’t go on a full on rant about the terrible production of the event yesterday. So glad to see this video

  • @omarisawesome1996
    @omarisawesome1996 11 місяців тому +26

    Boxing press conferences show that boxers have too much cte to trash talk; they have to let their coaches and promoters talk the whole time.

    • @gangganggamer9974
      @gangganggamer9974 11 місяців тому +3

      Yea and I don’t think people realize that boxing is much worse for you than mma because of the cte and mainly headshots

    • @EdgarHernandez-uu4iw
      @EdgarHernandez-uu4iw 5 місяців тому

      Maybe it’s that boxers don’t need to trash talk to promote a fight. In ufc if you don’t trash talk you don’t sell. Pacquaio sold millions of PPVs without talking trash as well as many other boxers in his era.

  • @Starvin_Marvin138
    @Starvin_Marvin138 11 місяців тому +16

    Everyone bitching about everything from last night found out why i gave up on boxing 10 years ago and i love boxing as a sport, ive boxed since i was a kid, but as a business it's terrible

    • @BiggieTrismegistus
      @BiggieTrismegistus 11 місяців тому +6

      Agreed. 20 years ago I was more interested in boxing and had only middling interest in the UFC. It's completely changed over the past two decades. I'll watch at least the main card of nearly every UFC events but only bother to check out a handful of boxing matches a year.

  • @MikeHunt-fx9rg
    @MikeHunt-fx9rg 11 місяців тому +18

    Boxing sucks because it’s so decentralized. UFC love them or hate them books the best fights have consistent production and has less politics. This makes for a better overall product.

    • @roarblast7332
      @roarblast7332 11 місяців тому +1

      I actually disagree. Boxing allows the freedom to explore all sorts of narratives that will never, ever, ever be explored in the ufc.
      The ufc is cool and all, but it has a shelf life and it gets old rather easily.
      I don't even watch it anymore. Couldn't care less.

  • @lukehodson9625
    @lukehodson9625 10 місяців тому +8

    The amount of rounds coupled with the fact that all the top boxers are terrified of getting an 0 on their record makes them so unbelievably gun shy that it just becomes a snooze fest

  • @JB-vu7ib
    @JB-vu7ib 11 місяців тому +32

    As a much bigger mma fan than boxing I found myself dying laughing listening to this rant because EVERYTHING HES SAYING IS TRUE 😂

  • @DanTheSportsFan
    @DanTheSportsFan 11 місяців тому +96

    That decision was absolutely disgusting this is exactly why Ill never take boxing serious its beyond corrupt and political

    • @peps7724
      @peps7724 11 місяців тому +8

      Boxing isn't scored like MMA, I was rooting for Ngannou but had it 6-4 Fury. It's not a fight it's a boxing match.

    • @djLagwayEnjoyer
      @djLagwayEnjoyer 11 місяців тому +40

      @@peps7724that’s why boxing is a dead sport. You can *touch* someone with grazing shots that do no damage but get rocked multiple times and win in boxing by points. Not a real fight, not a real sport.

    • @bornmenu
      @bornmenu 11 місяців тому +24

      Let's not act like mma doesn't have horrible decisions that benefit the superstars too...

    • @YouAintGotNoTegridyBoi
      @YouAintGotNoTegridyBoi 11 місяців тому

      ​@@djLagwayEnjoyerMMA is scored round by round and just as prone to the exact same situation. In fact it happens all the time when people complain about damage not being factored into MMA scoring enough.

    • @theguycisterninoyelledat6272
      @theguycisterninoyelledat6272 11 місяців тому +10

      @@djLagwayEnjoyer Yes, it annoying if you've ever fought in amateurs people get robbed all the time and the amateurs are a lot more legit than the pro's ironically.

  • @AbstractCard
    @AbstractCard 11 місяців тому +5

    Bro legit you hit all the points. The fucking concerts killed me like what the actual fuck.

  • @Skywarp559
    @Skywarp559 11 місяців тому +8

    I don’t mind waiting like 10-30 mins for transitioning to a main event but an hour or more is overdoing it

    • @kingt0295
      @kingt0295 11 місяців тому

      I’d prefer it to be 10 minutes over 30+ lol, 20 minutes is more than enough for the couple minute pre fight hype package to play and both guys to have walked out and be in the cage getting announced

  • @mikeg6058
    @mikeg6058 11 місяців тому +23

    100% agree, watching the event yesterday with the wait times, between fights, the walkouts, it's brutal. I don't know how the crowd survived without alcohol, because i'd need to be piss drunk not to lose patience with all the waiting, 1000 interviewers all askibg the same questions.
    Tie it up with a post fight conference and call it a night.

    • @BamOn742
      @BamOn742 11 місяців тому

      The crowd are mostly coked up democrats 😂

    • @mikeg6058
      @mikeg6058 11 місяців тому

      @@BamOn742 fookin eh, did you see Conor, holy lit up like a xmas tree.

    • @genguise7782
      @genguise7782 11 місяців тому

      ​@@BamOn742combat sports have right wing fanbases+the event was in Saudi, the fuck do you mean coked up democrats

  • @WillyWonka-oo2ur
    @WillyWonka-oo2ur 11 місяців тому +12

    I don’t get it, time to time it’s proven boxing doesn’t go well with music concerts yet promotions keep doing it. We’re paying to see the fight nobody cares about lil baby wtf

    • @YouAintGotNoTegridyBoi
      @YouAintGotNoTegridyBoi 11 місяців тому

      It's only happened twice or three times ever in these freakshow events, why are you acting like it's a regular occurrence?

  • @ishwar5936
    @ishwar5936 6 місяців тому +3

    There are 4 organizations, every event is centered on the main fight. There are always 6+ people talking at the press conference who don't even fight on the card. And when you watch it you always have to wait 30+ min between every fight

  • @desktopmma3178
    @desktopmma3178 11 місяців тому +8

    The old head photos took me out bro 💀💀

  • @MrCIeanshead
    @MrCIeanshead 11 місяців тому +5

    It’s a mission trying to find out the undercard fights on boxing events, when you search ufc you literally get a nice line up showing all the fights along with the upcoming events

  • @DOOMStudios
    @DOOMStudios 11 місяців тому +52

    When influencers did boxing. Boxing literally died for me there.

    • @JohnDoe-kx1yt
      @JohnDoe-kx1yt 11 місяців тому +8

      Jup. They are thr biggest goofies ever

    • @Elgallo1107
      @Elgallo1107 11 місяців тому +4

      They definitely killed it. It’s bringing more eyes to the sport but imo it’s negative and makes the sport out to be a joke just a really bad look. And on top of it ngannou might have just put the nail in the coffin for boxing. Boxing got better numbers now but when all these old heads aren’t around ufc gonna take over. Every single 10-20 year old right now knows about ufc way more then they do about boxing

    • @White_Z33
      @White_Z33 9 місяців тому

      oh yeah boxing is dead, sure...

    • @LtCommanderTato
      @LtCommanderTato 9 місяців тому

      @@Elgallo1107 UFC is declining too. New generations care less and less about fight sports.

    • @Elgallo1107
      @Elgallo1107 9 місяців тому

      @@LtCommanderTato I’d say ufc is doing much better with the younger generation. I’m 17 and all my friends and pretty much all the guys I meet my age know about ufc

  • @carlosponcedeleon7819
    @carlosponcedeleon7819 11 місяців тому +26

    I feel that the 10 rounds of 3 minutes is way too much. It would be better if they did 7 rounds of 4 or 5 minutes, and allow fighters to get in rhythm, this in my opinion would result in more finishes (which boxing has none) and it would shift the way fighters train and condition themselves for the fight.

    • @wynsonrao5177
      @wynsonrao5177 11 місяців тому +7

      Ikr, the rounds are fucking ridiculous. At least in kickboxing even though the rounds are short they only have 3-5 so the pace is high, and I wish kickboxing had more rounds

    • @Elgallo1107
      @Elgallo1107 11 місяців тому +1

      Agreed, for the lighter weights they can definitely push the pace and be more active throughout and boxing is way less cardio intensive then mma, but for these heavyweights 10 rounds is way too much

  • @jonathanprudencio2505
    @jonathanprudencio2505 8 місяців тому +5

    Do you guys remember when Canelo wanted to fight Messi because Argetina won a game against Mexixo in the World Cup.

    • @GOF313
      @GOF313 7 місяців тому +4

      When Nelo retires they're going to be in trouble, they literally have ZERO names that will touch the height of Nelo when it comes to PPV sales. There is plenty of talent but no stars.

  • @Mr_Fairdale
    @Mr_Fairdale 11 місяців тому +7

    I thought the time between fights and walkouts were too long in ufc. After that snail race on Saturday, I'll pipe down.

  • @scorpionxiiclips
    @scorpionxiiclips 11 місяців тому +6

    UFC fans between fights: Lemme take a piss real quick.
    Boxing fans between fights: Lemme watch an episode of Stranger Things real quick.

  • @CrXz282
    @CrXz282 10 місяців тому +4

    Who ever put the event did a horrible job making us wait an extra hour to see them fight and a rap performance bro it’s unnecessary asf I’m so glad this ppv didn’t even do 100k buys they lost all the money paying off Tyson and ngannou

  • @hms9891
    @hms9891 11 місяців тому +11

    Watching that last night was painful I’m an mma guy to and even fight in mma listening to those commentators in between the co main event, and main event mentioning how “Ronaldo is here, Kanye is here, Eminem is here” literally a few hundred times god it drove me insane, absolute CRAP!! Total circus it’s like WWE with boxing gloves on

  • @CartFullerr
    @CartFullerr 11 місяців тому +13

    Boxing Is Not Dying 💀 Literally No Event Does Concerts The Only One That Has Was The Tyson Fight And Jake Paul Vs Askren + We Got Crawford Vs Spence Ryan Garcia Vs Gevronta Davis Devin Haney Vs Lomachenko Teofimo Lopez Vs Josh Taylor Etc Etc

    • @najiabuirmeileh4961
      @najiabuirmeileh4961 11 місяців тому +18

      Bro ur not important enough to capitalize every word 🤣

    • @bornmenu
      @bornmenu 11 місяців тому +3

      Lucas doesn't really watch boxing like that.

    • @TheScott-man
      @TheScott-man 11 місяців тому

      That’s several there alone

    • @nitrox1613
      @nitrox1613 11 місяців тому +19

      Dang that’s crazy 4 big fights on one calendar year. That’s like 2 months for the UFC.

    • @d.6786
      @d.6786 11 місяців тому

      Oh so all the biggest PPV events? 😂😂😂

  • @georgem3673
    @georgem3673 4 місяці тому +3

    I watched MMA from the beginning of the UFC to about 5 years ago. It has become extremely boring with a bunch of generic fighters who all share the same 3 personalities. Virtually every card looks the same as the previous card, and the fans are also forced to watch women's MMA, which is terrible. Imagine going to an NBA basketball game, and 1 quarter of the game featured women's basketball, that's what you get with the UFC. Boxing also sucks, but there are some fights that I still look forward to. Not to mention Dana's mafia connection, and the fact that this mafia connection is why the fighters get robbed.

  • @bryanenty8385
    @bryanenty8385 11 місяців тому +5

    And then after waiting more than an hour for the main event, we got Fury taking his sweet sweet ass time waking out. Like holy shit that was frustrating

  • @coreymcnulty5125
    @coreymcnulty5125 11 місяців тому +5

    I hâte boxing press conferences so much

  • @sneak916
    @sneak916 11 місяців тому +12

    For me, Pacquiao was the last boxer that had a ton of excitement. That still doesn’t compare to MMA though

  • @DamonTheGreat_
    @DamonTheGreat_ 11 місяців тому +6

    I love how he calls him Bob Arup instead of Arum 😂

  • @fightmilk209
    @fightmilk209 11 місяців тому +6

    The saying less is more rings so true. There's so much prestige and pageantry in boxing it's a real snooze.

  • @thecat_themoon_and_guru
    @thecat_themoon_and_guru 11 місяців тому +8

    Tbf people have been saying boxing has been dying since 2010 and yet it still here and boxers still make tones of money 🤷

    • @tylerberg4832
      @tylerberg4832 11 місяців тому +6

      And you can only name like 4 of them

    • @thecat_themoon_and_guru
      @thecat_themoon_and_guru 11 місяців тому +1

      @@tylerberg4832 and you can only name like 2 of them

    • @tylerberg4832
      @tylerberg4832 11 місяців тому

      way to have the point fly wayyyyy over your head @@thecat_themoon_and_guru

    • @ministryOFmuff
      @ministryOFmuff 5 місяців тому

      @@tylerberg4832 Yeah because people who dont watch MMA knows tons of MMA fighters dont they. Alex Pereira is probably the biggest full time star in the sport these days lol, who the fuck outside of the MMA fanbase knows that guy.

  • @ADHD55
    @ADHD55 11 місяців тому +6

    UFC embedded is a genius idea and shows the personality of fighters

  • @elijahtheboxingfan3877
    @elijahtheboxingfan3877 11 місяців тому +7

    I’ve checked out mma, and I love it. I find boxing more entertaining but to be honest, y’all do everything else way better.

  • @Fireinthestubble
    @Fireinthestubble 11 місяців тому +8

    So true how boxing people look down on MMA it’s pathetic.

    • @Z4NKA1
      @Z4NKA1 11 місяців тому +3

      Opposite

    • @hackyou3227
      @hackyou3227 11 місяців тому +1

      It’s usually mma fans(Lucas is one of them) who always look down in mma just look at mma channels/instapages amd you’ll see it’s mma fans looking down on boxing

  • @beanaye5433
    @beanaye5433 11 місяців тому +39

    I’m my opinion boxing events are showing their age. Slow, drawn out and more about the money than anything else.
    MMA, being younger, seems to be a pure a sporting event with hyped promotions and minimal politics onscreen. Of course a lot goes on behind the scenes.

    • @TheSastoke
      @TheSastoke 11 місяців тому +1

      Except when Dana White brings on the ex-president, they show up on the big screen on the arena, and the commentators are all talking about how much they love it lol these are the only moments where I feel like the UFC is being too political

    • @Roverde
      @Roverde 11 місяців тому +3

      ​@@TheSastokeNot really as he is just another celebrity at that moment. They show his face like any other celebrity. They dont have him do speeches or promotions.

    • @LinuxInvictus
      @LinuxInvictus 9 місяців тому

      @@TheSastoke even then, thats really the sort of respect former and sitting presidents always got until recently. They just show his face and him walking in not that different from how they show other celebrities

  • @marquisewilliams6323
    @marquisewilliams6323 11 місяців тому +10

    I agree mma is on the way to surpassing boxing. Definitely in the US. Boxing is alittle bit more complicated though. Imagine the UFC, PFL, Bellator and ONE all had the same amount of money and promotional power. It would be a fight to get the best fighters. Then it would be a fight to build up prospects and make them future stars. Fighter would have more options which for them is GREAT. It for fans that’s not always a positive. Fighters would avoid each other. Just like boxing and the similar problems that boxing has the mma community would have. MMA is so great in the states because the UFC pretty much has a monopoly and are the WWE of mma

  • @ben5154
    @ben5154 11 місяців тому +11

    Congratulations to Lucas for bringing back the sport of boxing.

  • @otsam1050
    @otsam1050 11 місяців тому +10

    Lol you ain't gotta feel bad for us boxing fans. Tbh you will find a lot of boxing fans even rooting for Ngannou. Boxing is now more niche than mma, it ain't dying. Also this fight wasn't an L for boxing, just like Jake Paul KO against former UFC champs isn't really an L for the UFC 😅. I do agree the UFC does a better job promoting fights though, btw I'm in my 20s lol.
    Also don't forget a lotta UFC guys be begging to get into boxing just to make a buck 😅

  • @TheBrotherHoodSports
    @TheBrotherHoodSports 10 місяців тому +3

    Shakur Stevenson just put the final nail in the coffin for me.

  • @Ronak1107
    @Ronak1107 11 місяців тому +7

    Lucas always haves me laughing so hard, arriving an hour after the co main 😂

  • @Saskobest
    @Saskobest 11 місяців тому +9

    Fully agreed on your points but i think are few points in favor of boxing compared to MMA.
    1. The Hype, while having so many belts and thus making top ranked boxers of each belt organization fight each other nevertheless it creates hype, can1 compare the hype Manny-Floyd had or Lewis-Tyson to any mma fight?
    2. Competitive history of fighters - While boxing builds up numbers of top tier proteges (all of them basicaly starting automathicaly 20-0 before having a first top tier fight), that " 0 " in the record still does hype things up, Wilder beat mostly canes and same can be said for Fury before Wladimir but both of them were creating buzz before finally proving themselves, in MMA you are a novice with little or no amateur background(many mma fighters started late teens or even early 20s fighting, while most boxers start in teens and have 100+ amateur fights before becoming pro) , you win 4-5 fights(also can be cherry picked to boost the odds dependend of who is more marketable and future proof) and suddenly you are in the top tier(top5-8) fighter, and same goes for tittle defending, you defend your title for 3-4 times suddenly you are a GOAT contender, i swear to you lets say today Miocic,Jones and Cain are considered goats for the majority, stop watching MMA for 5 years and then come back you will have some1 else replace them
    3. Missmatches - certinaly in boxing there are types of fighters (in/out etc) but they dont influence the fight nearly as in MMA, for example if one of the 2 fighters is top tier BJJ and the other one is a striker i can guarentee you the way the fight is gonna go, almost all the action will be on the ground or attempts to take it to the ground

  • @obi-wankenodi861
    @obi-wankenodi861 11 місяців тому +6

    294 was a really quick event coz most fights was a 1 round finish and it was only like 2 hours

  • @Fury851
    @Fury851 10 місяців тому +3

    Boxing is still great, it just needs to drop all the multiple titles and have one champion per division, get rid of all the national anthems boring the hell out of us, have better undercards like they did in the 90's and most importantly champions need to fight more often! Fighting once a year just kills any momentum a good fight or champion can have.

    • @valvevac-systemchecker3773
      @valvevac-systemchecker3773 10 місяців тому +1

      Honestly doubt any of those things will happen, what shocked me about boxing vs UFC is how many undefeated ranked fighters there are, I saw that was and was just fed up

  • @ArnasNausedas
    @ArnasNausedas 11 місяців тому +1

    the timer that indicated the time until the walkouts came in clutch, i was able to take a nap between the co main and the begining of the concert and then another nap until the actual walkouts

  • @mohamedhassan1722
    @mohamedhassan1722 11 місяців тому +3

    Good video bro.
    Boxing promotion stuck in 1960's. Mr. King's old promotion still being used in 2023
    Thanks to Francis "" making boxing great again""

  • @JonnyAugz
    @JonnyAugz 11 місяців тому +30

    This wasn't a normal boxing event. It was a spectacle.

    • @harrywatson2694
      @harrywatson2694 11 місяців тому +12

      and they made it worse than any event in the history of boxing

    • @eidenspysznyk5075
      @eidenspysznyk5075 11 місяців тому +18

      Dare I say the misfits events are actually run better?....

    • @bmmjg
      @bmmjg 11 місяців тому

      @@eidenspysznyk5075misfits is for children and the ufc is rapidly going down that path

  • @juniorurrieta
    @juniorurrieta 2 місяці тому +1

    It's been a dying sport for the last 10 years but we are still watching boxing. Thanks for the old news buddy

  • @DaBubby_
    @DaBubby_ 11 місяців тому +26

    I still love watching boxing but I can admit the way mma is run is way better

  • @bradley4750
    @bradley4750 11 місяців тому +5

    Great video, I felt the exact same way waiting an hour between the co-main and the main event last night, i wanted to blow my brains out after hearing them tell 7 different random peoples life storys out, it was insufferable, literal torture to watch, UFC is 20x better

  • @bkozican
    @bkozican 11 місяців тому +1

    The fury v ngannou fight, I live in Perth, I got up at 4.30am because the internet said the main event starts at 5am, the fight didn’t start until 6.30 😂

    • @bkozican
      @bkozican 11 місяців тому +1

      I did the same for the volk v Islam card, I woke up as Usman was walking out 😂 times it perfectly

  • @Part-Time-Pope
    @Part-Time-Pope 6 місяців тому +1

    MMA definitely has the advantage of having one promoter and one organization overseeing the promotion.

  • @meridy4348
    @meridy4348 11 місяців тому +3

    This is so real bru W lucas 😂

  • @716Video
    @716Video 11 місяців тому +4

    The future of boxing events might just turn into mulitple combat sports within one event. With a couple of the fights being traditional boxing, a couple bare knuckle mma fights, along with a couple bare knuckle boxing fights thrown in.

  • @restitvtororbis5330
    @restitvtororbis5330 11 місяців тому +3

    There is so much about boxing that could be fixed with basically no downside, but BY FAR the most unforgivably simple thing is the fact they can't even be bothered to put together some pictures of the fighters on the card so fans get a face attached to the name. I'm not talking about making promo packages for every fighter, that would cost money and God forbid the PROMOTION should PROMOTE a fighter, all they have to do is copy a photo of the fighters and paste it next to their name. It would take an unpaid intern 10 minutes, and it could do literally nothing but get eyes on the fighters that nobody in boxing cares enough to talk about. Boxing is dying for a lot of reasons, but the least controversial one to fix is to put just the bare minimum effort towards showcasing fighters that aren't already champions. Boxing is dying because basically EVERYONE who isn't a champion is entirely unknown to the boxing audience, not just the casual audience, i mean everyone who isn't hardcore. Boring personalities end up making it to the top because there's no way of finding anyone interesting that the audience can get behind. Even if they're not good, if they end up with even a small fan base, that's more than they had before, and more people might pay for the card if there's even one fight outside the main event they care about. Boxing promoters are literally some of the most greedy people on earth yet they still can't be bothered to try to PROMOTE their own fighters even though they're just leaving money on the table at this point. There's so much wrong with boxing but that's the most unforgivable one because with minimal effort literally everyone could benefit.

  • @pavopija
    @pavopija 11 місяців тому +4

    So it works like this: the 'best guys' go through their careers crushing cans, like the Arslanbek guy yesterday TKOd a guy in a minute, then they all sit at the top of an arbitrary ranking, and then barely fight each other. This is how you get a couple of guys who are supposedly 'best in the world' like Fury, who then in turn gets exposed by an MMA fighter. Any other fucking sport in the world has a coherent, definitive table which says who sits where, based on the competitions held between them. But not in the worlds most crooked sport/scheme of professional boxing. I hate it because i think its a magnificent martial art,bl but it has been absolutely ruined by its present oligarchy of matchmakers and, also, of how little it has accepted to change since its beginnings

    • @LonganWaters
      @LonganWaters 11 місяців тому

      It's different now the best is fighting the best

  • @RyanPs3gamer123
    @RyanPs3gamer123 11 місяців тому +14

    I'm somewhat of a rare breed actually. I'm the type of guy who was always an MMA fan but slowly transitioned into more of a boxing fan. I still watch UFC alot because there are always good fights being made and I'm too curious to miss them but what made me slowly transition to boxing was I had enough of the wrestlefucking and laying and praying. I think the magomed ankalaev vs jan blachowiz and merab vs Yan really turned me off from mma. You know when people say if you don't like wrestling go watch boxing or kickboxing? Well I did lol, also because I'm training to become an amateur boxer in the future so that plays a part. But Lucas is still spot on, if only the UFC were to start doing boxing promotions then it would be the best thing ever with the way they market fighters and advertise cards

    • @Z4NKA1
      @Z4NKA1 11 місяців тому +6

      Yeah the dagestani fighting style of just wet blanket wrestling is so boring it’s insane, I always root for the striker to win 9/10 times

    • @RyanPs3gamer123
      @RyanPs3gamer123 11 місяців тому +3

      @@Z4NKA1 yeah and hearing islam say more kids from dagestan are training to become ufc fighters soon is not a good thing. Soon all we'll have is khabib copy pastes screaming inshallah brather and just lay on top of each other.

    • @Skadongle
      @Skadongle 11 місяців тому +13

      @@Z4NKA1 i feel like people overexaggerate how boring dagestani fighters are. Most of khabibs fights were great. Khamzat Chimaev gave us the fight of the year vs Burns. Islam just KOed Volk, ikram had a really fun fight last card, just not seeing where ppl are coming from

    • @jellyrollthunder3625
      @jellyrollthunder3625 11 місяців тому +5

      I don't mind it. I'm actually interested in who is actually the tougher fighter and grappling has to be taken into consideration, otherwise it wouldn't be a real fight. The question is how much time you are going to devote to each fighting style. I would just watch kickboxing if I wasn't interested in the grappling which is actually much harder to learn than striking, by and large.

    • @Roverde
      @Roverde 11 місяців тому +4

      I mean the UFC has a roster of over 100 fighters with unique styles. There are many kickboxers/boxers in there.

  • @-obamium5320
    @-obamium5320 6 місяців тому +1

    Do pay per view buyers really pay to watch anything other than the boxing match? The large amount of time waiting to get to the actual fight they paid for has to get annoying.

    • @nate4z
      @nate4z 5 місяців тому

      it is annoying which is percisely why i dont even bother watching the prelims and paying for the match, i just go on sketchy links lol

  • @dfpguitar
    @dfpguitar 11 місяців тому +3

    My favourite boxing promotion is world super series. Its a rapid action tournament that does away with the months and years of negotiations in regular pro boxing.

  • @phishdough
    @phishdough 9 місяців тому +2

    My favorite Tracy video, absolutely hilarious

  • @levelup2014
    @levelup2014 11 місяців тому +2

    Boxing is such a corrupt sport they couldn’t let an mma guy take out the boxing heavyweight weight champ

  • @PughMMA
    @PughMMA 11 місяців тому +13

    Unpopular opinion: I thinks press conference with coaches, mentors, promoters, and commentators would be cool, but just do it separate from the fighters as an exclusive for Fight Pass or something.

  • @jibbawatt1209
    @jibbawatt1209 3 місяці тому +1

    I love Boxing and MMA, but at the end of the day I would rather people be forced to stand up and fight until they fall. MMA can have entire fights taken over by ground game, which is fun sometimes, but mostly boring.

    • @Ncloud
      @Ncloud 3 місяці тому +1

      same i prefer watching Boxing and Kickboxing not UFC

  • @michaelw6277
    @michaelw6277 10 місяців тому +4

    I still think boxing, the actual fight, is more entertaining to watch. I just can’t get excited about watching two dudes rub their balls on each other’s faces. That aside, yeah every other thing about out boxing is trash… the promotion and what seems like dozens of organizations is just awful.

    • @MikePerryLegit
      @MikePerryLegit 9 місяців тому +2

      This is the way you feel right up until you watch a boxing match. The amount of hugging they do in boxing is absolutely agonising, like watching paint fucking dry.

  • @SirShadeyy
    @SirShadeyy 11 місяців тому +2

    The only fight I have seen actually promoted well was the Fury/Ngannou fight. The commercials for that were top tier.
    I have also never appreciated the UFCs production crew as much as I did after seeing the production of this past weekends event.

  • @Strxvs
    @Strxvs 10 місяців тому +3

    Calling Ryan and Davis boring is wild

    • @Owais39k
      @Owais39k 9 місяців тому

      id sub both of em

  • @bobbyjankins3796
    @bobbyjankins3796 11 місяців тому +2

    Thank goodness I started switching over to mma a couple months ago, boxing has started coming back a bit with nelo and crawford but stuff like this just hurts the sport

  • @majorg6065
    @majorg6065 11 місяців тому +1

    Dude this is the best take I’ve heard in a minute. Subbed.

  • @wang_asapic3722
    @wang_asapic3722 11 місяців тому +2

    Bruce Buffer also adds to the energy of the UFC fights. Boxing announcers sound like they have to be there lol

  • @jonjonescellmate4955
    @jonjonescellmate4955 11 місяців тому +12

    Lucas forgot that the boxing promoters are all “crafty vets” and you can never underestimate the IQ of a crafty veteran like Bob Arum.

  • @nelsoncarmona1981
    @nelsoncarmona1981 11 місяців тому +1

    i think one of the biggest problems is that they only hype up the main events. Boxing undercards are dog shitttttttt

  • @artvandalay7632
    @artvandalay7632 11 місяців тому +2

    Boxing has been an embarrassment for years but now even normies are starting to wake up to it

  • @callumlogan4874
    @callumlogan4874 11 місяців тому +1

    Usually don't agree with your takes but god damn i agree with you word for word here. I legit didn't even know the fight was last weekend until i just seen a million reactions videos saying Francis won, everyone who i train with pirated it cause no one actually pays to watch boxing anymore. I couldn't even tell you one other fight on that card hell i didn't even know the event had a card i genuinely just thought the event was francis vs fury. Tbh i'm super biased though i never really like boxing, not to rag on anyone who loves it but to me i always just thought it wasn't close enough to a actual fight to tickle that combat sports itch for me it's why i love MMA.

  • @uwotm8634
    @uwotm8634 11 місяців тому +2

    Yeah there's too much "bloat" in boxing, and I think a big reason is all the different sponsors and promotions involved, this has the benefit of the fighters getting paid a lot more than MMA, but it also makes the conferences, interviews, and build up to the fight too long and complicated. It's kind of like the Superbowl, although in that case people actually tune in for the performances and ads during the game and find it entertaining.
    With boxing it's just meant to pad out time until the main event, since that's all people really tune in for, that's the big selling point, unlike a UFC card where fans are actually excited for fights that aren't just the main event.

  • @deed3440
    @deed3440 11 місяців тому +3

    I think boxing only looks like that within the American scene. It’s doing well in other countries like the Japan, UK, and Mexico. Unfortunately boxing isn’t as controlled like the UFC or other MMA organizations but the sport itself shouldn’t be represented off of yesterday’s event.

    • @champ1159
      @champ1159 11 місяців тому +1

      Problem is, the major events are like this

    • @frankmateo8754
      @frankmateo8754 11 місяців тому +1

      Very true what you said, the issue is the moment you wanna become a star you have to take part in this circus.

  • @micahbablitz-li9qt
    @micahbablitz-li9qt 11 місяців тому +1

    Here's the thing boxing fans like boxing, end of conversation.
    Here's another thing, press conferences all suck!

  • @taker3106
    @taker3106 11 місяців тому +1

    As a boxing fan I agree with you on the production and average undercards etc - however you saying that the fights are boring is just down to personal preference - personally I much prefer a technical 12 round boxing match than a UFC fight - I honestly find UFC main events often extremely underwhelming, 1st round stoppages etc

  • @_Idonthaveaname
    @_Idonthaveaname 11 місяців тому +1

    SOMEBODY FINALLY SAID IT. “PROMOTERS ARE STUCK IN THE STONE AGE. AND NOONE GIVES A FUCK WHAT BOB ARUM HAS TO SAY”

  • @garichar
    @garichar 11 місяців тому +1

    Both boxing and MMA promotions suck! MMA has become so cringe after McGregor left, it's so embarrassing. Everyone trying to "trash talk" is so overdone and lame. Listening to Sean Strickland try to be funny is unbearable. They should just cut to the the fights: "Welcome to fight night, here is your ring announcer."

    • @albertcamus1739
      @albertcamus1739 11 місяців тому +2

      Sean Strickland is unbearable? Lol Coner was actually more cringe than him

    • @kaydiamond8
      @kaydiamond8 10 місяців тому +1

      Exactly lol. Mma fans acting like they’re in a better boat when both sports suffering from the same disease 😂Conor leaving mma has killed some of ufc mainstream Floyd leaving boxing has killed some of boxings mainstream

  • @BambuuucaCZ
    @BambuuucaCZ 11 місяців тому +1

    fight was supposed to be 23:40 my time i arrived like 00:20 thinking i missed it realizing it havent even started yet just to wait an hour 01:20 for the fucking fight to finally start… that was weird ngl is that normal for boxing?

  • @jamesbillingsby8043
    @jamesbillingsby8043 11 місяців тому +1

    I thought the main even was at 5, so I tunned in. That concert was awful, and it killed the momentum. I could have ran an errand and got back to still see the fight. What a joke, who does a concert before the main event.

  • @BelalMasvidal
    @BelalMasvidal 11 місяців тому +3

    Mohammed Usman would beat Tyson fury in real fight.

    • @kingt0295
      @kingt0295 11 місяців тому +2

      Parker Porter takes out Tyson fury bro

    • @redrottenmanguyperson9954
      @redrottenmanguyperson9954 2 місяці тому

      ​​@@kingt0295 shamil gaziev blob checks him 50- 44 lil bro

  • @Aspiepilled
    @Aspiepilled 11 місяців тому +1

    I’ve been a boxing fan my entire life and ever since I started watching mma this year, I haven’t gone back

  • @robbiedubes
    @robbiedubes 11 місяців тому +1

    After watching the UFC since the early 2000s and never watching boxing it’s crazy to try to watch boxing events now. The UFC is so masterfully done. MMA fans are spoiled

  • @nojusspudys8291
    @nojusspudys8291 11 місяців тому +2

    You just got unlucky with the fights you were watching, watch Crawford vs Spence, Benavidez vs Plant, Inoue vs Fulton, Navarrete vs Valdez (all of these fights were this year) and then try to say that boxing is boring. Agree on the other points though.

    • @d.6786
      @d.6786 11 місяців тому

      This video is about the production / promotion of boxing fights and how boring and terrible they are. He’s not calling boxing in itself boring.

  • @r3mi_righteous
    @r3mi_righteous 11 місяців тому +1

    Don’t even know who the best boxer is because they don’t even fight each other, oh I don’t want to fight this guy because I’m only getting this many million instead of this many milllions, I just need all the millions to fight, like bro it a joke

  • @ClayHarness
    @ClayHarness 11 місяців тому +1

    I found bare knuckle the best to watch live for casual viewing the fights are usually quick and or brutal and the next fight on the card happens very quickly compared to ufc or one.

  • @serniebanders2858
    @serniebanders2858 2 місяці тому +1

    I only watch boxing when it’s Jake Paul vs mma legends , hall of famers, stars , they usually get knocked out or dropped

    • @facts2676
      @facts2676 Місяць тому

      It's really sad that boxing only gets attention when a UA-camr or former UFC fights.