Hell we have Frontier deploying fiber right now into my rural subdivision. For what I'm paying right now for 400Mb (they just bumped it to 500Mb a week ago) on Spectrum (was Time Warner), I can get 2g in rural Texas. As it is now I can't fully use a 2g connection so I will be going 1g for less than half the price I'm paying now. But I am looking to rebuild my home network to 10g as the cost has drop a bit so I don't mind spending money knowing I don't have to do it again in 4 to 5 years times.
I have a 10G internal network, a 2.5G gateway, and a 2G fiber internet connection, and I’ve never seen it go faster than 1G. I have 3 NAS’, 2 Proxmox servers, 300TB storage and I download a ton of shit too.
I'm glad that this meme can finally die now since this is not the case anymore (at least in Westphalia). I just upgraded from 150MBit/s to 1GBit/s and pay even less now :)
@@UKgamer87 better yet don't pay anything. I never have and never will, they can put me in a hotel with bars and lose even more money feeding and housing me at their own expense if they don't like it. I guess some dummies just love giving the gov't interest-free loans.
"They were talking about gigabit connection TWENTY YEARS AGO." Me: "Oh, they were talking about that in the early 90s?" *realizes it's 2020* "God I'm old. :("
I saw the opening subtitle - "tfw gigabit ethernet is older than Jake". Jeez, I remember using BNC connectors / 10Base2 in my youth. en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/10BASE2
2.5 GbE neads low power and it's similar to 1 GbE for the same size of data's. It makes no sence for more Speed, equipment becommes to expensive and needs to much power for mobil devices.
@@ralfl.k.5636 The cost of equipment is marginal as proven by the QNAP 2.5GbE switch linked. Even better pricing now that 2+ years has passed since my OP.
The video reminds me of the fact that my ISP, up until 5 years ago, had 150Mbit/s internet speed offerings bundled with a modem that only had 100Mbit/s network ports.
My current ISP offers real Ethernet connections - to a "fiber interface box" on the side of my home. I'm currently at 100MB for Internet, could upgrade that to 1GB easily. I'm on the same physical ISP as Microsoft/Yahoo/a few others use for their "Quincy" Washington data centers....
Before I retired I was the technical program manager for Intel's network products division and managed the development programs for Intel stand-alone 1G Ethernet devices (such as the I350, I210, 82576, and others). I was advocating for single, dual, and quad port 2.5G silicon about 5 years ago but there was a huge imperative to build 10GBaseT, 40G, and 100G parts and we just didn't have enough engineering staff to do it all. I think the same is likely for many of the leading developers. We liked the idea, but we couldn't make it happen unless the switch silicon guys would support the idea too. Alas, they were concentrating resources on the great Ethernet speed race and were not able to commit resources either.
Linus on Techquickie: "2.5gpbs is going to make your Internet faster" Linus on LTT: "2.5gpbs won't make your Internet faster" Split personality confirmed.
that made me chuckle because thats what i have where i live mind you just getting 40mbps costs me like my d being ripped and thats not even stable with much more limitations like daily mb limits and such thats its not even worth it hell like 10 to 40 mbps are locked to the same limits
Oh shit! I don't know how to save this guy! Quick, I have to copy over the medical manual from my NAS! 30 seconds later: *Patient dies* Damn, if only I had a 2.5 GB adapter.
All he did by doing that was to basically say I dont give a crap about insulting my wife, and that he is a guy you don't want to shake his hand after he's been locked up in the office with the door closed for a while.
This video needs to be drastically updated for 2024. It's hard to imagine that the cheapest mult-gig switch was around 500 dollars back then. They are only around 30 to 50 USD now.
@@photonicpizza1466 Dafuq no dude. I can buy a *managed,* 16 port (half SPF+, half 10g Ethernet) 10gb switch, including a rack mount kit, right now for about $680, _including 25%(!) sales tax._ That's not even a discounted price.
He was wrong, there are switches for ~110 Euros if you dont need dozens of ports. mikrotik.com/product/crs305_1g_4s_in This one works perfectly. and has 4x 10Gbit and 1x 1Gbit Also it has router software that is no bit worse than what enterprise routers like cisco has.
as 10gig is out of reach by restrictive pricing and unavailability in consumer segment, i am really looking forward to 2.5gig standard becoming mainstream as soon as possible, as 1gig had become a bottleneck a long time ago (if you want to drop files across your home network faster).
@@majorgear1021 I can't believe we had 10G, then went back to 2.5G and now today in 2023 it's still not cheap or ubiquitous to have 2.5G... let alone the already (now old) 10G!?
500/500 at Frontier is $40/monthly here. 940/880 for $74.99/mo. They cream the only other real competition (Comcast) where their $40 plan gets you only 100mbps download. While comcast does offer up to 1000mbps download, it costs $80/month and at Comcast the upload speed is always massively lower than download. Wired as low as 5mbps. No thanks... Comcast upload speed is so bad they don't even mention it in writing anywhere on their detailed plan info. You can only find out if you ask them directly... where as Frontier offered upload speed generally matches download speed offered.
@@mrn234 7 years, and it may not have gigabit, but it has 5GHz WiFi and 2 SSDs, weights 1.6 Kg and it's thickness is 18 mm, so it is not a brick at all. Fast ethernet is only a small tradeoff, for a laptop with normal usage is more than enough, I've only used it a couple times.
Only "fast" ethernet on a 7 year old laptop, are you sure you don't just have to tweak some settings from the network adapter? I have had a simular problem.
Techquickie: _“Your internet is about to get faster - 2.5 Gbps explained”_ Also Techquickie: _“2.5gbit is awesome, but it won’t make your internet faster”_
I see a small flaw in your plan: whilst most 10Gb adapters cost twice as much as that 2.5Gb card, they are still four times as fast. I can understand users with 10+ PCs on their network would be expensive - that said, if they just had 3-4 PCs, a 10Gb card for each would likely be a better investment (less if the motherboards in some probably already have them).
@@JimmyZeng That's true, but host to host connections are limited to a single PC unless the NAS has a second connection to the network or the computer is shareing the NAS. Edit: At that point you should just go Thunderbolt 3 for 40 Gb/s. Good luck saturating that.
I live in Italy and I have a 5mbps down, 1mbps up ADSL with no plans for optical fiber in the foreseeable future :( And I live in a decently densely populated area too.
I would love to see video looking at the newer 'ethernet over power' adapters. I have some from when 56Mbs and 128Mbs were the max, and they were great when I was on an (Australian) ADSL2 connection, but the new ones seem to be promising a 10x-20x improvement.
@Darwin I came up with a better solution, it's nothing to do with lazyness it's do with having a uncluttered home, one unit to diagnose if there is a problem and lower power consumption.
"most people will have to upgrade their switch" - most people don't have switches, they just have routers... this still isn't worth the expense for average in home use where you're not losing money waiting on files to copy over.
@@nattankress mine is too, had to buy a second router, and the funny thing is that my ISP will give you a 100mbps router even if you pay for a 250mbps connection...
I love looking back at this now. When a year ago all I could get was 12 mbps and now just one year later AT&T finally upgraded my area to 10Gig for “business”.
I appreciate this video. While these options will be less expensive, the only way we are going to see true adoption is when 2.5G ethernet is added to home and business-use routers, as well as when it is integrated into motherboards. The add on cards are much less expensive (than 10G), but I don't see many aside from enthusiasts or professionals who need it going out of their way to install the extras.
There's a few times a year when I would actually transfer photo or bulk files like that at home. Realistically there is no reason for the average consumer to need it at home.
Agreed not at this point in time with the cost of the network switches still being so dang high, and I could be wrong(please be kind if I am, and don't reply 4 years later saying but there is) but I don't think there is a WiFi router with 2.5G Lan ports of when I type this post.
The new FRITZ!Box 6660 Cable also has one 2.5. The Puma 7 SoC it uses has it integrated, no dedicated controller chip needed. I'm expecting this to be the case for basically all higher end router SoCs in the future and there should be barely any cost increase.
Just so you know, the first network I helped install was 25kbit. That was way back in 1984 and was BBC model Bs. The network mass storage device was a whopping 10MB. Chuffin huge thing as well - full height 5.25 drive + card etc.
I am stuck with 100mbps at home but gigabit in home so I downloaded all my games and acces them 10x faster localy to avoid the headache of 8h downloads with modern games :)
@@wisico640 Same here. But I even host them on a network drive. Gigabit seems to be enough for that. Though Steam works with a network drive (tested), better to mount an iSCSI LUN instead, and host the library there. So, any computer from my local network can access it. The only drawback is that loading screens take longer, but I am using HDDs in a RAID anyway. Once game is loaded into RAM and VRAM, everything works just as expected. I also noticed a slightly higher FPS for some titles while playing from a network drive, but I am not sure wheter it is related or not.
@@NITROjkee my htpc and pc are all SSD so I prefer to transfer it but I already had my library on my nas; wasn't best for lans with more than 2 pc tho 😂
@@wisico640 I've got SSDs in my computers as well. And my laptop can reach up to 2000 Mb/s in reads and writes, but 500Gb isn't that much, especially for modern games. I've got a NAS with 10Tb storage. Gigabit network is limiting read/write to 125 Mb/s, so having SSDs in NAS is pointless, because the HDDs in RAID can do up to 300 Mb/s. Other than waiting a few extra minutes (sometimes even seconds) on splash and loading screens I don't see any performance issues playing from a network drive. The choice is obvious for me :) Down the road, I would love to upgrade at least to 2.5G, which won't limit my NAS HDDs, but my router, NAS and switch has only 1G ports - the upgrade just for NAS itself will cost around 1200 USD (I like Synology and that's what cost the model with pcie slot in my country). Or I can use link aggregation with NAS and get 2G, but I am not sure how to set it up, and how much it will cost for a new router and switch. So I will just stick to gigabit for now, because it just works, could have been worse if I had only 100 Mbps 😂
I have Bahnhof here in Sweden, but only 1000/1000 Mbps (live on the country side with FTTH IP-Onlys network) at around 60 USD/month. The 10 000 Mpbs speed is only offered by Bahnhof in their own network and one other network, Skanova (part state-company), in some areas. Bahnhof is really awesome, they offer good speeds at reasonable prices plus they are fighting the big fight for privacy on the net. Now a huge part of Sweden, both cities and on the country side has access to fiber up to 1000 Mpbs due to the state and EU putting alot of grants into building of fiber networks on the country side. In our area we have our own economic Association where we own the fiber network between all members and let IP-Only handle the network with an open platform with lots of ISPs to choose from. Really cheaply... :) Next step in Sweden is to upgrade networks to 10 000 Mbps but I think it will take some time to upgrade all networks due to the costs of the 10 000 Mbps-fiber optical network switches and 10 000 Mpbs fiber converters for the homes.
det är väl dock bara för villor, än så länge....möjligtvis att vissa stadsnät i sthlm/gbg eller liknande har det också. håller tummarna för framtiden :D
@@zzco I assume you mean the 951? we use it's bigger brother, the 962 a lot for low-mid load routing, 3011/4011 for mid-high. hugggeeee fan of the CRS 326 though. ANDDD they just released a 48-port switch too, which i cannot wait to get my hands on
@@nrvhj795 that means I am getting Screwed and so is everyone else in the area because we only have 3 providers. 1 for North of the Railroad tracks and 2 for the south but 1 of those uses the others equipment and lines. The one North of the RR Charges $74 for 1.5Mbps just enough they say to Stream Netflix. I have a Hell of a time Streaming with 10Mbps. DISH wants about the Same for the Same. Our Infrastructure in my area Can't handle more Unless they Upgrade to Fiber Optics then they said we could get 100Mbps but at a hell of a lot more than $99. Suppose to happen within the next year or so.
Anything above 1Gbit is for attaching those big NAS RAIDs. As of any Internet connection over 20Mbit, it's main advantage is having multiple users in the house.
Intel X520 on Ebay is also about $25. You can get a Qnap switch with 3xSFP+ ports for something like $160 (though I got a Mikrotik with 4 SFP+ for like $200). A SFP+ module can be found for many switches for $5-15 on Ebay. Teaming 1Gbps connections isn't as cost-effective/good as it used to be when compared to newer solutions. (Though it's still often "fine")
The NetGear MS510TXPP switch that costs around $349 on Amazon. It got 2x 10GB ports, 2x 5gbase-t ports, 2x 2.5gbase-t ports, and 4x1gbase-t ports. This is an amazing central switch at home. The NAS can be connected to the 10Gbase-t ports, while the workstations and access points can use the 5/2.5gbase-t ports. The remainder of the ports can be used for consoles, printers, IP phones, cameras and other devices that can only use 1gbase-t ethernet.
I ended up buying two of those qnap switches and diving into this, the one MAJOR f me in terms of cost, was getting an rj45 compatible nic that was also compatible with freebsd, and that had to be (at least in my searching) a £300 starlink one (although I got it for 50 off) with an intel x550, that's actually a 10 gig card, but backwards compatible with 2.5, that leaves me ready to go to 10 gig in the future whilst staying functional with pretty much any nas os I throw at it. So yeah, if you are doing this with home built network storage, that's one to look out for, otherwise if all you need is to connect up a few normal computers 2.5 is a steal.
@@danielt91 The even less tech savvy households probably only have a cellphone, a tablet, a few Bluetooth accessories, and a game console. So suffice to say that this video probably isn't for that demographic
If the game is DRM-free, I just play it over the network. If your network has decent speeds and a reliable connection, you don't really have to copy the over unless you plan on modding it like TESV, FO4, etc. Just for anyone who's interested in trying this out, I access the files over network using Folder Sharing function in Windows.
Dont forget to pay interest rates too on this fee! I would send them $1000 just to be safe. Dont forget: "Taxes are what we pay for a civilized society" You dont want IRS coming after us!!
3 year old video but relevant to me today, my internet company just sent me a new modem after upgrading off a grandfathered plan. it has a single 2.5g port on it, so im looking at upgrading the switch and network card on my pc to make use of it. This gives me an idea of how worth it it would be for me to do and given the drop of cost of 'older' hardware, seems good to do.
The issue isn't the speed it gives you but it's the support. A lot of NAS solutions etc either have 1GBps or 10Gbps, not 2.5. You could get a multi gigabit switch and connect that with a short patch cable and utilize 2.5 GBps in your PC's so you can use existing CAT 5E cabling in the walls. That's the only reason to use it, if you already have CAT6 in your home you might as well go with 10Gbit. Also, for many people it requires the purchase of a switch, most home users simply use the ethernet ports in their ISP suppied router for a few devices and use wifi for the rest.
While you'll likely never saturate a consumer ISP or even NAS with 2.5Gbps connection in most circumstances, it does absolutely help in increasing your maximum total throughput. For example, before I upgraded my home ISP from 1G to 2G, my work-related VPN capped out at around 700Mbps with a simultaneous upload to my NAS running around 700 Mbps (Toshiba Ent drives on ZFS with RAM cache), after the upgrade (2G ISP with 2.5G NICs/switch), I was able to almost saturate my NAS and work-related VPN simultaneously at close to 950Mbps for the VPN and 900Mbps for the NAS. And since a lot of DC around Tokyo actually run 10G fiber backbone almost all the way to my apartment complex, I'm actually able to download a lot of things way faster with a 2G ISP / 2.5G NIC when compared to my old 1G ISP / 1G NIC. So, like everything with networking, it REALLY depends on your location, environment, workflow, use-case, etc, etc, etc.
"2.5Gb/s networking is cheaper than ever, look, the adapter is just $30!" Requires $500 switch. Takes editing RAW, 8K footage from a RED camera or a $100+/month internet subscription before you actually need it.
On my home network I stepping up from 1gb ethernet to 2.5gb ,now file exchange between main pc and NAS rised speed almost in 2.2x factor.Before was max 110mb,now 217-230mb sec.Absolute worth it.IMHO.
The adapters might be cheap along with being built onto newer motherboards, but not many have it, as the I don't know of a WiFi router with it, or network switch that does not cost more than a lot of people's weekly pay. So yeah till cost comes down in 5 or 6 years it's a kind of look at what I have feature in my opinion.
Yep, thats what I found too. It looks like a Fractal Define 7 build, the case is new so since we didn't see this video likely, this is likely upcoming. :)
@@OliverKehm I saw that several times already. when bingewatching a bunch of LTT videos at a time I often get "announcements" at the end for the following video or the video after that ;) happens when they screw around with their upload schedule and things go live in a different order than planned. I bet it's available on FLOATPLANE already, though ...
2:20 that 8k camera in action.
What it's really for.
To edit your stuf and keep the quality.
@@erikbarsingerhorn4485 um... okay
Robert Toms, III Because they believe having it makes them better than everyone else.
3:36
pretty gross
10:45 "It's for perfect for those who are prone to drop..." Sometimes, it pays to watch till the end.
Someone didn't read the sponsor text before saying it.
Or click on this comment's timestamp
Lol
Flash forward 2 years and the AT&T Guy just offered me a residential 10 Gig line for the same price I was paying for 1 Gig 5 years ago
Hell we have Frontier deploying fiber right now into my rural subdivision. For what I'm paying right now for 400Mb (they just bumped it to 500Mb a week ago) on Spectrum (was Time Warner), I can get 2g in rural Texas. As it is now I can't fully use a 2g connection so I will be going 1g for less than half the price I'm paying now. But I am looking to rebuild my home network to 10g as the cost has drop a bit so I don't mind spending money knowing I don't have to do it again in 4 to 5 years times.
That sounds nice. Personally being able to move from 1Mbit to 30Mbit has been fun for me too.
That doesn't mean you need it, I'd rather pay less for 1gig then the same for speed I can barely utilize.
@@CaptainFSU Speak for yourself. Some people are hosting servers.
I have a 10G internal network, a 2.5G gateway, and a 2G fiber internet connection, and I’ve never seen it go faster than 1G. I have 3 NAS’, 2 Proxmox servers, 300TB storage and I download a ton of shit too.
2:20
Whoever edited this deserves a raise.
haha! lol
A good one! ❤️ 🤣🤣🤣👌
This deserves like Linus!
I'm pretty sure it was our Premiere Lord and Savior Taran.
Look at 10:54 It says who the editor is.
Sweden: offers 10GBit/s Internet connection
Germany: offers 50MBit/s vectoring via old copper wire and calls it new technology
*sad Panzer noises*
Happy ikea noises
As an Australian, I feel your pain.
Germany (Vodafone/Telekom) is offering and building up FTTH right now...
I'm glad that this meme can finally die now since this is not the case anymore (at least in Westphalia). I just upgraded from 150MBit/s to 1GBit/s and pay even less now :)
When the “where to buy” card popped up while Linus was talking about nudes, it killed me.
gotta plug the "merch"
HAHAHA XD
Linus Only Fans?
Where?
China gear backed up so no merch $$, I heard he's starting a FANSONLY page...
ahahaha
When he was talking about nudes the “Where to buy” prompt popped up....... I know what I’m wasting my tax refund on 😤
Same 😂
Waste? Money well spent
Buying nudes is stupid when you can get plenty of them on google images for free.
tax refund? Why not just pay the right amount?
@@UKgamer87 better yet don't pay anything. I never have and never will, they can put me in a hotel with bars and lose even more money feeding and housing me at their own expense if they don't like it. I guess some dummies just love giving the gov't interest-free loans.
"They were talking about gigabit connection TWENTY YEARS AGO."
Me: "Oh, they were talking about that in the early 90s?" *realizes it's 2020* "God I'm old. :("
Ha! You're old!
don't remind me
10G Base-T is 14 years old.
I saw the opening subtitle - "tfw gigabit ethernet is older than Jake". Jeez, I remember using BNC connectors / 10Base2 in my youth. en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/10BASE2
@@evelyngracealdrich4124 Back then, the choices were thick, thin or twisted.
2.5GbE is also GREAT for doing local backups to a NAS much more quickly. Pair it with a "QNAP QSW-1105-5T 2.5GbE switch" and you're off to the races.
2.5 GbE neads low power and it's similar to 1 GbE for the same size of data's.
It makes no sence for more Speed, equipment becommes to expensive and needs to much power for mobil devices.
@@ralfl.k.5636 The cost of equipment is marginal as proven by the QNAP 2.5GbE switch linked. Even better pricing now that 2+ years has passed since my OP.
Linus: "Waiting 30 seconds never killed anyone."
Me: "My insulin!"
(person has a heart attack, falls over and their heartbeat has flat-lined)
Doctor: Just give him a moment. They might be fine.
@@deathsyth8888 he rebooting
@@Matter655 He's*
Me: "My EpiPen !"
Gotta download that insulin faster
The video reminds me of the fact that my ISP, up until 5 years ago, had 150Mbit/s internet speed offerings bundled with a modem that only had 100Mbit/s network ports.
My current ISP offers real Ethernet connections - to a "fiber interface box" on the side of my home.
I'm currently at 100MB for Internet, could upgrade that to 1GB easily.
I'm on the same physical ISP as Microsoft/Yahoo/a few others use for their "Quincy" Washington data centers....
I have a DSL modem, down = 8 Mbps up = 1 Mbps
The router has 100 Mbps ports.
I assume my motherboard has a 1 Gbps NIC.
The best way to bottle neck every device is getting 15mb wifi.
Also known as spectrum
I get 1mb/s
20kb*
I have 2mbit/s Ethernet
I like 56k, it's free in some countries
"No one ever died waiting half a minute for something" (unless it's a tourniquet)
@@tambarlas5248 damn you'd twist that knot so fast you'll be taking off that limb instead of saving it
Before I retired I was the technical program manager for Intel's network products division and managed the development programs for Intel stand-alone 1G Ethernet devices (such as the I350, I210, 82576, and others). I was advocating for single, dual, and quad port 2.5G silicon about 5 years ago but there was a huge imperative to build 10GBaseT, 40G, and 100G parts and we just didn't have enough engineering staff to do it all. I think the same is likely for many of the leading developers. We liked the idea, but we couldn't make it happen unless the switch silicon guys would support the idea too. Alas, they were concentrating resources on the great Ethernet speed race and were not able to commit resources either.
If I’m looking for the fastest dual port network card out today from Intel or another brand, what would it be?
Plenty of support for 2.5G and 5G out of Netgear and Ubiquity switches - and has been for a while now.
@@Sean_Sell I think the mellwnox connectx-7 has two 400g ports
2:30 Linus: folder of spicy nudes. Info card: “where to buy?” 🤔🤔
LTTstore.com
Linus on Techquickie: "2.5gpbs is going to make your Internet faster"
Linus on LTT: "2.5gpbs won't make your Internet faster"
Split personality confirmed.
That stupid tech quickie channel still exists?
@@nilswegner2881 yes, and it's got even worse.
@@LaZZeYT with even more false information?
@@avenged110 Oh yeah, he's losing his mind for sure. Lol
Wait, doesn't he mean that it WONT make your internet cheaper? Cuz a 2.5Gbps over USB-C will make the interwebs go faster. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
"In some cases dozens of megabits per second"
*stares in 2mbps*
2 megabytes per second maybe, but 2 megabits per second is basically unuseable for modern browsing and streaming.
@@cm01 Dude. That's my internet. I live in the US and this is literally the only ISP in this growing city I live in. ISPs are scum.
Stares at 210mbps
@@shubhchaudhary6562 stares harder with 400mbps because you should stop trying to flex with average internet speeds
that made me chuckle because thats what i have where i live mind you just getting 40mbps costs me like my d being ripped and thats not even stable with much more limitations like daily mb limits and such thats its not even worth it hell like 10 to 40 mbps are locked to the same limits
"waiting half a minute never killed anyone" - Said no paramedic :(
Oh shit! I don't know how to save this guy! Quick, I have to copy over the medical manual from my NAS!
30 seconds later: *Patient dies*
Damn, if only I had a 2.5 GB adapter.
Proof?
@Bruh Mcbruh Do you wait 30 seconds in the middle of the road when crossing it?
So please don't prove me right.
How can you really be sure it’s arterial?
Underrated comment.
When Linus talks about his nudes and the Where to buy infobox shows up
Don Rosmarin I saw that too and was like “why?!”😂
Xddd me too
Yup. Thought the same thing.
What the hell is "where to buy infobox"? Are you using Internet Explorer?
goku Lmao you sound really dumb
Normal people: hide nudes
Linus: “We’ll use nudes as a measure unit cuz science”
Dr Axton “Science”
All he did by doing that was to basically say I dont give a crap about insulting my wife, and that he is a guy you don't want to shake his hand after he's been locked up in the office with the door closed for a while.
ugetridofit shut up
To be fair, the nudes are just linus modeling his underwear
Tim please joke like that around your spouse
This video needs to be drastically updated for 2024. It's hard to imagine that the cheapest mult-gig switch was around 500 dollars back then. They are only around 30 to 50 USD now.
"Don't buy 10gig cards they're expensive even though cable is dirt cheap"
"Oh yeah you need this $500-$1000 switch for 2.5gig".
@@photonicpizza1466 Dafuq no dude. I can buy a *managed,* 16 port (half SPF+, half 10g Ethernet) 10gb switch, including a rack mount kit, right now for about $680, _including 25%(!) sales tax._ That's not even a discounted price.
@@photonicpizza1466 What? You can buy a new UniFi Switch 16 XG for only $599.
He was wrong, there are switches for ~110 Euros if you dont need dozens of ports. mikrotik.com/product/crs305_1g_4s_in
This one works perfectly. and has 4x 10Gbit and 1x 1Gbit
Also it has router software that is no bit worse than what enterprise routers like cisco has.
Mikrotik is really nice, for example i use NordVPN inside router. to control what data goes through VPN and what goes incorrectly
@@CC-vv2ne this is SFP+ switch. find RJ45 one.
Recommended by UA-cam: Techquickie "Your Internet Is About To Get FASTER - 2.5 Gbps explained"
Did you watch it? Oh wait you just read the title... Maybe try watching it till the end?
as 10gig is out of reach by restrictive pricing and unavailability in consumer segment, i am really looking forward to 2.5gig standard becoming mainstream as soon as possible, as 1gig had become a bottleneck a long time ago (if you want to drop files across your home network faster).
Still waiting. FML.
@@majorgear1021 I can't believe we had 10G, then went back to 2.5G and now today in 2023 it's still not cheap or ubiquitous to have 2.5G... let alone the already (now old) 10G!?
"In some cases, dozens of megabits per seconds."
Frontier's 1mbps: *sweating*
@Valithor Some of us don't have much of a choice.. Hell where I work still has a T1
I got 4mbps
500/500 at Frontier is $40/monthly here. 940/880 for $74.99/mo. They cream the only other real competition (Comcast) where their $40 plan gets you only 100mbps download. While comcast does offer up to 1000mbps download, it costs $80/month and at Comcast the upload speed is always massively lower than download. Wired as low as 5mbps. No thanks... Comcast upload speed is so bad they don't even mention it in writing anywhere on their detailed plan info. You can only find out if you ask them directly... where as Frontier offered upload speed generally matches download speed offered.
@@Mobliz All of the main UK ISPs do that scummy practice, too. Most connections are ~200/20.
Mine's 200/200 for $60 🤣😅
And I am watching this with a laptop that only supports up to """fast""" ethernet. I get better speeds with WiFi.
how old is that brick ? O.o even my now 11 year old laptop that i use for discord n stuff supports gigabit.
@@mrn234 7 years, and it may not have gigabit, but it has 5GHz WiFi and 2 SSDs, weights 1.6 Kg and it's thickness is 18 mm, so it is not a brick at all. Fast ethernet is only a small tradeoff, for a laptop with normal usage is more than enough, I've only used it a couple times.
@@c0ldw1nd27 does it have usb 3
Only "fast" ethernet on a 7 year old laptop, are you sure you don't just have to tweak some settings from the network adapter? I have had a simular problem.
Depends on how far you are from the access point. At the outer range of wifi, "fast" Ethernet (100Mbps) is still faster.
Techquickie: _“Your internet is about to get faster - 2.5 Gbps explained”_
Also Techquickie: _“2.5gbit is awesome, but it won’t make your internet faster”_
Worker: just downloading the latest update
Linus: FASTER FASTER!!!
>"100s or even doesns of mb/s"
3MB/s take it or leave it, in the uk
I'm lucky to get a few hundred kb/s
@@kodidavis2819 so I'm
3MB/s = 24 Mb/s so when he said dozens, he was right.
on a brilliant day I see 40Mb/s Down and 5.0Mb/s Up, also I love this but seriously can anyone afford the network switch for this project alone? XD
I have sky fibre and use a cat6 cable and I can barely get 60mbps down and 25up
I see a small flaw in your plan: whilst most 10Gb adapters cost twice as much as that 2.5Gb card, they are still four times as fast. I can understand users with 10+ PCs on their network would be expensive - that said, if they just had 3-4 PCs, a 10Gb card for each would likely be a better investment (less if the motherboards in some probably already have them).
Linus, copying nudes: "I want them on my local device so I can, erm, manipulate them in, erm, lightroom...or something."
Dude he’s married
Jeremiah Yonemura please joke like that when you have a spouse and children and see how that works out
Good for upgrading in your house to work faster on home projects
Also linus: let's pull up some RED 8K footage
In fairness, didn't he say he was playing at quarter resolution?
Linus: "I'm going to show you guys how crazy affordable it has gotten to get faster local network speed."
Also Linus: "The cheapest switch is $500."
@@mikeycrackson Hence the specification of local networking
The cheapest 10 gbit, 2.5 is cheaper
You might not need a switch in some setup, like a direct line between your workstation and storage server, in a home office, this is very applicable.
@@spla5h627 He only said multi-gigabit switches that support 2.5, 5, and 10Gb/s.
@@JimmyZeng That's true, but host to host connections are limited to a single PC unless the NAS has a second connection to the network or the computer is shareing the NAS.
Edit: At that point you should just go Thunderbolt 3 for 40 Gb/s. Good luck saturating that.
3:36 real reason why they use a 8k camera
"It's perfect for those who are prone to dropping thi- 😐"
I had to scroll for way too long to find this.
"Waiting half a minute for something never killed anyone"
Yeah, well..
BanChunk proof?
BanChunk I can think of a lot of things that would kill people of it gets there half a minute later
Breathing?
Nate Cook your lung capacity is... actually idk what the standard is.
69 likes lmao
"or even in some cases dozens of megabits per second"
there's a lot of people around me that DREAM of having a single dozen of megabits , linus .....
Tell me where you are, I can probably get you guys close to a gig residential services. I run an ISP
I live in Italy and I have a 5mbps down, 1mbps up ADSL with no plans for optical fiber in the foreseeable future :( And I live in a decently densely populated area too.
@@iP1sano hah bich please 1.5 downloading 0.5 upload, I quit UA-cam cuz of it
Laughs in australian
Fiber ftw. 500 mbps up and down.
I'm more bothered of the fact that his wallpaper is just himself zoning out while wearing headphones.
thanks, now i can't unsee it
It's a side by side with a Cyberman, because those headphones look dumb as fuck.
@@JunkyVirus he's being upgraded
the last time i saw this guy he had 23k subscribers
with* the fact
I would love to see video looking at the newer 'ethernet over power' adapters.
I have some from when 56Mbs and 128Mbs were the max, and they were great when I was on an (Australian) ADSL2 connection, but the new ones seem to be promising a 10x-20x improvement.
We need more 2.5Gbe home routers, they are charging hundreds of dollars for them but are still stuck on 1 gig ports.
and this is why you buy separate modem, router, switch, access point
@@larrylarrington9229 Who the fuck got time for that rats nest of cables at home?
@Darwin I came up with a better solution, it's nothing to do with lazyness it's do with having a uncluttered home, one unit to diagnose if there is a problem and lower power consumption.
meanwhile in Sweden: gigabit connection included in the rent
Sure, maybe in some places. But let's be realistic, that's certainly not available everywhere, not even close.
"most people will have to upgrade their switch" - most people don't have switches, they just have routers... this still isn't worth the expense for average in home use where you're not losing money waiting on files to copy over.
Well i have a gigabit router and a 10-port gigabit switch just for my room
@@ondrejbrandejsky5592 pointless info fuckwit
Ondřej Brandejský you’re obviously not most people
My fucking ISP router is fucking 100 mbit ethernet, I had to buy another gigabit switch just to make the NAS worth the hassle
@@nattankress mine is too, had to buy a second router, and the funny thing is that my ISP will give you a 100mbps router even if you pay for a 250mbps connection...
Anyone going to point out the misspelled title? “AWERSOME”
There are no mistakes
-master oogway
What the heck is aweRsome. Getting sloppy Reilly?
I figured it was a Canadian thing, like how you'd hear "out and about" as "oot and aboot".
It's like when southern people say warsh instead of wash
I think your using a Samsung 😂
Well, I guess Bahnhof actually outdid Comhem!
I love looking back at this now. When a year ago all I could get was 12 mbps and now just one year later AT&T finally upgraded my area to 10Gig for “business”.
11:00 "Affordable 8k video editing NAS"
Data not found.
Sounds like a floatplane vid for now
@@phijkchutato Yeah, that would explain it.
They teased a NAS building vid several times but I never have seen one on the yt channel.
4k*
I was looking too. Glad to see it was not just me.
Linus: Want to hear my baby bird impression?
Linus: 4:46
Shitty joke
Linus: waiting half a minute never kill anyone.
Me: thinking about strangling someone to prove a point
Linus: These cards can be had for as little as $30.
Me: Whoa, Mr. Moneybags over here.
Lol
0:43 that was smooth af
I appreciate this video. While these options will be less expensive, the only way we are going to see true adoption is when 2.5G ethernet is added to home and business-use routers, as well as when it is integrated into motherboards. The add on cards are much less expensive (than 10G), but I don't see many aside from enthusiasts or professionals who need it going out of their way to install the extras.
10:02 yepp, that's good old Sweden :)
Banhof
Yea i live in a student apartment and gigabit internet is included in the rent... Sweden ftw...
shame they have a relgiion peace problem there
@@esbjornssonjesper1797 too bad mine only comes with 100Mbps non-upgradable internet :(
3:36 screenshot meme in the waiting !
Im gonna do it
"hundreds or in some cases dozens of megabits per second"
*laughs in 5mbit*
Laughs in 250 kb/s
3:35 my new background
There's a few times a year when I would actually transfer photo or bulk files like that at home. Realistically there is no reason for the average consumer to need it at home.
Agreed not at this point in time with the cost of the network switches still being so dang high, and I could be wrong(please be kind if I am, and don't reply 4 years later saying but there is) but I don't think there is a WiFi router with 2.5G Lan ports of when I type this post.
@@CommodoreFan64 I believe you have to get a 10 gig switch that is compatible but I think 2.5 gig switches are coming soon
@@CommodoreFan64 Look at the FRITZ!Box 5550 and 5530, they have one 2.5 gigabit port. You probbaly would need a switch behind it though...
The new FRITZ!Box 6660 Cable also has one 2.5. The Puma 7 SoC it uses has it integrated, no dedicated controller chip needed. I'm expecting this to be the case for basically all higher end router SoCs in the future and there should be barely any cost increase.
@@CommodoreFan64 I have the netgear ax12, it has one 2.5gbit port + five 1gbit ports.
Just so you know, the first network I helped install was 25kbit. That was way back in 1984 and was BBC model Bs. The network mass storage device was a whopping 10MB. Chuffin huge thing as well - full height 5.25 drive + card etc.
3:35 you're welcome
3:36 -i just ... I have new wallpaper
😂same
Why Wait when you dont have to - big Brain linus
Linus: Use 2.5 gbps!
Monopoly ISP's: Let us stop you right there!
“Internet speeds in the hundreds or maybe even as low as the dozens” me with my 0.8mb download speed😢
same here
Bruh! How are you even watching this video? 240p?
3 take it or leave it
@@charlie7mason I use a plugin. I let the video puffer in 720p while I´m working and watch it then fully loaded in my break
CharlieMason yep 👍🏻
"i dont want to download these games again"
isnt that why they made that steam server?
Yeah I backup my (noods) ahem Games lol
I am stuck with 100mbps at home but gigabit in home so I downloaded all my games and acces them 10x faster localy to avoid the headache of 8h downloads with modern games :)
@@wisico640 Same here. But I even host them on a network drive. Gigabit seems to be enough for that. Though Steam works with a network drive (tested), better to mount an iSCSI LUN instead, and host the library there. So, any computer from my local network can access it. The only drawback is that loading screens take longer, but I am using HDDs in a RAID anyway. Once game is loaded into RAM and VRAM, everything works just as expected. I also noticed a slightly higher FPS for some titles while playing from a network drive, but I am not sure wheter it is related or not.
@@NITROjkee my htpc and pc are all SSD so I prefer to transfer it but I already had my library on my nas; wasn't best for lans with more than 2 pc tho 😂
@@wisico640 I've got SSDs in my computers as well. And my laptop can reach up to 2000 Mb/s in reads and writes, but 500Gb isn't that much, especially for modern games. I've got a NAS with 10Tb storage. Gigabit network is limiting read/write to 125 Mb/s, so having SSDs in NAS is pointless, because the HDDs in RAID can do up to 300 Mb/s. Other than waiting a few extra minutes (sometimes even seconds) on splash and loading screens I don't see any performance issues playing from a network drive. The choice is obvious for me :)
Down the road, I would love to upgrade at least to 2.5G, which won't limit my NAS HDDs, but my router, NAS and switch has only 1G ports - the upgrade just for NAS itself will cost around 1200 USD (I like Synology and that's what cost the model with pcie slot in my country). Or I can use link aggregation with NAS and get 2G, but I am not sure how to set it up, and how much it will cost for a new router and switch. So I will just stick to gigabit for now, because it just works, could have been worse if I had only 100 Mbps 😂
I have Bahnhof here in Sweden, but only 1000/1000 Mbps (live on the country side with FTTH IP-Onlys network) at around 60 USD/month. The 10 000 Mpbs speed is only offered by Bahnhof in their own network and one other network, Skanova (part state-company), in some areas. Bahnhof is really awesome, they offer good speeds at reasonable prices plus they are fighting the big fight for privacy on the net. Now a huge part of Sweden, both cities and on the country side has access to fiber up to 1000 Mpbs due to the state and EU putting alot of grants into building of fiber networks on the country side. In our area we have our own economic Association
where we own the fiber network between all members and let IP-Only handle the network with an open platform with lots of ISPs to choose from. Really cheaply... :) Next step in Sweden is to upgrade networks to 10 000 Mbps but I think it will take some time to upgrade all networks due to the costs of the 10 000 Mbps-fiber optical network switches and 10 000 Mpbs fiber converters for the homes.
2:00 "Waiting half a minute for anything never killed anyone."
*People in life and death situations*: Are you sure about that?
MSORPG People who try and *bold* there comment but fail.
@@EastDallasKicks People that unnesessarily that a stab at people
Alexi Peck I’m sorry I can’t read that broken wannabe sentence what are you trying to say?
10:08 $32 a month for 10gb/s in Sweden... Dang..
Published 21-21-2018 I don't know what that month is but yeah.
I saw on their homepage that it cost's 499sek/month now. Still awesome and i want it.
@@Koppakuoriainen Around $50 a month? Holy heck that's cheap for that kind of speed.
Currently paying twice that for 1Gb/s. That being said I wonder what the data cap is.
@@Matthew-.- Data caps on private connections isn't a thing here in Sweden. I did double check the terms, it says unlimited. :)
@@Matthew-.- data cap is more of a America thing I think, I don't know anyone outside the us that has to deal with that
10:03 That's Bahnhof, one of many Swedish service providers. 298sek is about ~$30(taxes included).
det är väl dock bara för villor, än så länge....möjligtvis att vissa stadsnät i sthlm/gbg eller liknande har det också. håller tummarna för framtiden :D
I love the mikrotik device in the background
My RB-915-TnHD is weeping :p
@@zzco I assume you mean the 951?
we use it's bigger brother, the 962 a lot for low-mid load routing, 3011/4011 for mid-high.
hugggeeee fan of the CRS 326 though.
ANDDD they just released a 48-port switch too, which i cannot wait to get my hands on
@@ishtimal er yeah. the RB-951-2nHD **
@@ishtimal nice! and yeah mine is crying because of the three IKE tunnels it uses routinely, lmao.
My brain: there is no such thing as a sleep paralysis demon:
the demon in the corner of my room: 3:36
I went 10Gbit in parts of my home network one year ago and I love it.
10:08 298 SEK is about $32 USD. I pay about 3x that for 1/33 of the speed with Comcast.
I pay $99 for 10Mbps... The Fastest available to the Public and 100Mbps for Businesses.
@@nrvhj795 that means I am getting Screwed and so is everyone else in the area because we only have 3 providers. 1 for North of the Railroad tracks and 2 for the south but 1 of those uses the others equipment and lines. The one North of the RR Charges $74 for 1.5Mbps just enough they say to Stream Netflix. I have a Hell of a time Streaming with 10Mbps. DISH wants about the Same for the Same. Our Infrastructure in my area Can't handle more Unless they Upgrade to Fiber Optics then they said we could get 100Mbps but at a hell of a lot more than $99. Suppose to happen within the next year or so.
10:15 Linus shuts down a laptop using only his mind
Anything above 1Gbit is for attaching those big NAS RAIDs.
As of any Internet connection over 20Mbit, it's main advantage is having multiple users in the house.
10:04 - That's true. In my country, a certain ISP offers symmetrical 10Gb/s for households for quite a cheap price
3:35 is the stuff nightmares are made of.
big brain
I just upgraded to 2.5 Gb internet and can only handle 900mpbs so this is very nice to see.
My preferred solution to >1Gb speeds: quad port NIC with teaming/link aggregation for under $25 USD used.
Yeah, but even then you have to have a switch capable of doing aggregation on the other end. Unmanaged switches won't do that.
@CipherBytes not to mention that you have to buy twice of the cable length.
Intel X520 on Ebay is also about $25. You can get a Qnap switch with 3xSFP+ ports for something like $160 (though I got a Mikrotik with 4 SFP+ for like $200). A SFP+ module can be found for many switches for $5-15 on Ebay.
Teaming 1Gbps connections isn't as cost-effective/good as it used to be when compared to newer solutions. (Though it's still often "fine")
Plus LAG able switches... And for what? To your nas? So there has to be at least the same setup.. not as cheap as you think
@@fakepixilord Cheaper than a 500 dollar switch. 48 Port Brocade used does more than fine for under 100 USD.
Ahhh the cybermen desktop background.
The new doctor who sucks huh?
The NetGear MS510TXPP switch that costs around $349 on Amazon. It got 2x 10GB ports, 2x 5gbase-t ports, 2x 2.5gbase-t ports, and 4x1gbase-t ports. This is an amazing central switch at home. The NAS can be connected to the 10Gbase-t ports, while the workstations and access points can use the 5/2.5gbase-t ports. The remainder of the ports can be used for consoles, printers, IP phones, cameras and other devices that can only use 1gbase-t ethernet.
9:41 is that the new xps 13 9300? Hope a review will come soon!
I ended up buying two of those qnap switches and diving into this, the one MAJOR f me in terms of cost, was getting an rj45 compatible nic that was also compatible with freebsd, and that had to be (at least in my searching) a £300 starlink one (although I got it for 50 off) with an intel x550, that's actually a 10 gig card, but backwards compatible with 2.5, that leaves me ready to go to 10 gig in the future whilst staying functional with pretty much any nas os I throw at it. So yeah, if you are doing this with home built network storage, that's one to look out for, otherwise if all you need is to connect up a few normal computers 2.5 is a steal.
3:35
when someone sneezes at you in 2020
You just proved me again that average user have absolutely zero use for over 1Gb/s speeds.
An average person probably only has a single PC/laptop and doesn't even need a NAS. LOL
For now I agree.
@@danielt91 The even less tech savvy households probably only have a cellphone, a tablet, a few Bluetooth accessories, and a game console. So suffice to say that this video probably isn't for that demographic
@@petelee2477 Ok, but you don't have an animal avatar like the rest of us in this section :/
I think you'd find average people are using wifi me included
If the game is DRM-free, I just play it over the network. If your network has decent speeds and a reliable connection, you don't really have to copy the over unless you plan on modding it like TESV, FO4, etc.
Just for anyone who's interested in trying this out, I access the files over network using Folder Sharing function in Windows.
"This will not make your internet faster"
We'll see about that 😏
I got a call abut my computer being sued by the IRS from Microsoft and they said I need to pay $500, is it ok to pay?
Yeah let me give you my acc---the account information.
No, scam
Yeah it's cool.
Dont forget to pay interest rates too on this fee!
I would send them $1000 just to be safe.
Dont forget: "Taxes are what we pay for a civilized society"
You dont want IRS coming after us!!
No its a scam
3 year old video but relevant to me today, my internet company just sent me a new modem after upgrading off a grandfathered plan. it has a single 2.5g port on it, so im looking at upgrading the switch and network card on my pc to make use of it. This gives me an idea of how worth it it would be for me to do and given the drop of cost of 'older' hardware, seems good to do.
For a second there at the end, I genuinely believed they had no sponsor for the video.
2:24, I almost spit my coffee.
The issue isn't the speed it gives you but it's the support. A lot of NAS solutions etc either have 1GBps or 10Gbps, not 2.5. You could get a multi gigabit switch and connect that with a short patch cable and utilize 2.5 GBps in your PC's so you can use existing CAT 5E cabling in the walls. That's the only reason to use it, if you already have CAT6 in your home you might as well go with 10Gbit.
Also, for many people it requires the purchase of a switch, most home users simply use the ethernet ports in their ISP suppied router for a few devices and use wifi for the rest.
2:00 "Waiting half a minute never killed anyone"
Eh, there were probably some medical emergencies where it did
Is this reverse psychology? Reverse titles? Well it worked for me, I'm here!
TheMrminimario 18 min ago??
What
how
@@zeakks thought that myself
@@zeakks I had the same question
While you'll likely never saturate a consumer ISP or even NAS with 2.5Gbps connection in most circumstances, it does absolutely help in increasing your maximum total throughput. For example, before I upgraded my home ISP from 1G to 2G, my work-related VPN capped out at around 700Mbps with a simultaneous upload to my NAS running around 700 Mbps (Toshiba Ent drives on ZFS with RAM cache), after the upgrade (2G ISP with 2.5G NICs/switch), I was able to almost saturate my NAS and work-related VPN simultaneously at close to 950Mbps for the VPN and 900Mbps for the NAS. And since a lot of DC around Tokyo actually run 10G fiber backbone almost all the way to my apartment complex, I'm actually able to download a lot of things way faster with a 2G ISP / 2.5G NIC when compared to my old 1G ISP / 1G NIC. So, like everything with networking, it REALLY depends on your location, environment, workflow, use-case, etc, etc, etc.
I only have one option for my isp so you know it’s “great”
"2.5Gb/s networking is cheaper than ever, look, the adapter is just $30!"
Requires $500 switch.
Takes editing RAW, 8K footage from a RED camera or a $100+/month internet subscription before you actually need it.
On my home network I stepping up from 1gb ethernet to 2.5gb ,now file exchange between main pc and NAS rised speed almost in 2.2x factor.Before was max 110mb,now 217-230mb sec.Absolute worth it.IMHO.
My motherboard has this port, but no one else in my house has anything like it.
The adapters might be cheap along with being built onto newer motherboards, but not many have it, as the I don't know of a WiFi router with it, or network switch that does not cost more than a lot of people's weekly pay. So yeah till cost comes down in 5 or 6 years it's a kind of look at what I have feature in my opinion.
Okay but can I just say I am LIVING for that Cyberman!Linus desktop ?
i pay 9.31 dollars for gigabit connection in Romania :)
Lucky bastard
fiber?
@@Nxrth6666 not direcly in to my apartment but in the building. I have to wait until summer for direct fiber :)
I pay 40€/month for 10Gbit/s in France (though, it's rather 6Gbit/s down and 600Mbit/s up, but still decent) :)
Linus references an "affordable 4K video editing NAS" video at end. Has that video not been uploaded yet? I can't find it.
Yep, thats what I found too.
It looks like a Fractal Define 7 build, the case is new so since we didn't see this video likely, this is likely upcoming. :)
yeah i saw it on a YT story so guess they just made a mistake
@@OliverKehm I saw that several times already. when bingewatching a bunch of LTT videos at a time I often get "announcements" at the end for the following video or the video after that ;) happens when they screw around with their upload schedule and things go live in a different order than planned. I bet it's available on FLOATPLANE already, though ...
Editing is so creative lately, but not distracting - good balance