All you can do is keep showing the correct techniques. Eventually, people will start to accept. Thanks for sharing. p.s. It looks interesting when in focus as well. :)
Long time Ron 🍻 You wouldnt believe how many times i dropped your name when i have to argue about "watery stars" Much appreciate you teaching me the difference here 🫵👍🍻Stay well man !
True, always be wary of "photographic evidence" of anything. Remember, the road can look like it has a river running across it at times....dry as a bone!
why do you think.. we stand for truth... not blurry truths OR LIES :) and calling peopel out on their bs.. providing them why with demonstrations.. THEY start fight mode... not the ones trying to keep it clean
What are your thoughts on the SpaceX displays? Especially when it appears to be drilling or punching, multiple times in some spots? If it’s not some sort of denser type of fluid, that they’re struggling to get through, then what is your guess? Good work btw🤙🏼
@@ronhagberg And, in your opinion, what is the aether? I haven’t yet developed my own opinion of this. Is it like, the portion of electromagnetic field, before you would reach “space” whatever that may be?
So, please explain why does Venus looks like a crescent moon when in focus? Never recall seeing Venus depicted as looking the way it does shown here ‘in focus’ Also, if God divided the waters.. Gen 1:7And God made the firmament, and divided the waters which were under the firmament from the waters which were above the firmament: and it was so. 8And God called the firmament Heaven... Where’s the water that’s still above? Not sure what exactly this video is explaining? Thanks..
Venus goes through phases like the moon, it just takes longer, the phases of Venus were first observed in the year 1610. The Bible does not say anything is in the waters above, it says the sun moon and stars are in the firmament, just like your furniture is in your house, it doesn't say they are above the firmament. The camera being out of focus causes the watery effects, it doesn't prove anything. I think the sun moon and stars are very close, within our atmosphere. Making claims based on poor photography is no different than the lies nasa tells us.
Thank you for your speedy reply.. I do agree that nasa lies, also that the sun, moon, and stars are all lights and are definitely closer than we’ve all been indoctrinated into believing.. praise the Lord for leading us to so many truths found in His Word about this topic.. I’m not convinced yet about the waters above, if there is or isn’t.. but you’ve given me something to chew on, blessings going forward!
@@ronhagberg Just thoughts: You said, and I agree with you: " I think the sun moon and stars are very close, within our atmosphere.". That I don't know, however, I agree that the apparent position they present is quite close to us and very consistent. Certainly, our limits of vision, the atmosphere and the 'electromagnetic environment' limit how far we can see the celestial objects. I suspect a few hundred miles is a reasonable limit from the surface of the earth.
I agree, we perceive them to be close, they could be projected or reflected onto the air, or they could actually be that close, in either case I think what we see is within 100 miles.
I'm a truth seeker, and i do Believe in a firmament... However, even when I've explained this to the community for years, they still didn't believe it. It just doesn't fit their narrative. Really sad
Makes me wonder about the motives of anyone attempting to pass these out of focus images off as true depiction of what these heavenly bodies look like, or that they are suspended in water. RFB, Russian Vids and others try to take down good people for much less. It's hard to trust anyone in this arena.
There are hundreds of other P1000 star videos showing real stars in the firmament. You should be asking Nasa about attempts to pass CGI and fish eye lens as true depictions of what a flat earth and stars looks like..
@justinanthonyprochemdirect401 I am a flat earther, if you bothered to look at any of my content you would know that. I have never claimed that anything nasa says is true, and I don't care how many out of focus star videos you have seen, they still wrong. If you own a P100 or P900, you could test it for yourself. Focus, exposure, shutter speed, and F-stop settings are just a few of the things that you need to know about in photography, and they all mean something. The out of focus stars you so desperately defend are filmed in auto mode, these cameras have the smallest sensors of any camera on the market, they are not designed for low light photography, they are fairly capable if you know how to operate it, but sadly most people have no idea how to properly film at night with them, they are not capable of auto focusing and exposing at night. If you own one of these cameras and want to learn, I do have tutorial videos, if you do not own one, please stop blindly believing everything you see. I have clearly demonstrated the effects of being out of focus on artificial lights as well as stars and wandering stars and you can clearly see they are the same and these effects are caused by the camera. Some of the out of focus videos you see are an honest mistake made by people who don't know better, and some of them are done on purpose to confuse people and make flat earthers look stupid.
yes and so did the street light at the beginning. But I do believe there is water above because the bible says so. Have you seen those space x videos.Looks like a bullet traveling through water. There was a video by a Russian guy were the rocket bounced back and there was a ripple affect.n
I don't know if there is water up there or not, I do know that out of focus stars and wandering stars don't prove anything. The Bible says waters are above a solid firmament so I don't think those rockets are hitting water, I think they are trying to punch into the aether. The Bible also says God opened windows in the firmament to let the water come down to flood the earth, it doesn't say he ever put water back up there. I also think the tower of Babel was being built to get to those windows so they could open them to reach heaven, they must have thought there was no more water up there. We may never know these things in this life, and I'm ok with that, we will know soon enough.
Would you come have a chat about these BS Star videos in 24 7 flat earth discord as some fe keep sharing this disinformation? We could set an event maybe and if you could present something then we can have a QnA if you felt that would be ok
@@ronhagberg cool fam we have a thing called speculation Sunday so if you have a time that is reasonable world-wide like tea time evening ish for all? So if you can give me a time and your timezone so this will end the speculation of star videos 😉 Are you still in 247?
All you can do is keep showing the correct techniques. Eventually, people will start to accept. Thanks for sharing.
p.s. It looks interesting when in focus as well. :)
This is such an important video. Great stuff.
Thank you
Long time Ron 🍻 You wouldnt believe how many times i dropped your name when i have to argue about "watery stars"
Much appreciate you teaching me the difference here 🫵👍🍻Stay well man !
Thank you! Hope all is well with you and yours.
This actually was VERY helpful and educational. THANK YOU
ur the liquid guy it seems lol :P
👍👍
That’s wild
True, always be wary of "photographic evidence" of anything. Remember, the road can look like it has a river running across it at times....dry as a bone!
Ya'll do realize that out of focus or not this is still a luminary and not a dusty dirty rock ball so why keep the infighting??
why do you think.. we stand for truth... not blurry truths OR LIES :)
and calling peopel out on their bs.. providing them why with demonstrations.. THEY start fight mode... not the ones trying to keep it clean
It’s in the AETHER above
Thank you for your work on clearing this up. Although I'm a flat earther I don't preach a dome with the waters above it.
It's out of focus
What are your thoughts on the SpaceX displays? Especially when it appears to be drilling or punching, multiple times in some spots? If it’s not some sort of denser type of fluid, that they’re struggling to get through, then what is your guess?
Good work btw🤙🏼
I think they are trying to punch into the aether.
@@ronhagberg And, in your opinion, what is the aether? I haven’t yet developed my own opinion of this. Is it like, the portion of electromagnetic field, before you would reach “space” whatever that may be?
Awesome again man
Thanks
Nice
So, please explain why does Venus looks like a crescent moon when in focus? Never recall seeing Venus depicted as looking the way it does shown here ‘in focus’
Also, if God divided the waters.. Gen 1:7And God made the firmament, and divided the waters which were under the firmament from the waters which were above the firmament: and it was so. 8And God called the firmament Heaven...
Where’s the water that’s still above?
Not sure what exactly this video is explaining?
Thanks..
Venus goes through phases like the moon, it just takes longer, the phases of Venus were first observed in the year 1610. The Bible does not say anything is in the waters above, it says the sun moon and stars are in the firmament, just like your furniture is in your house, it doesn't say they are above the firmament. The camera being out of focus causes the watery effects, it doesn't prove anything. I think the sun moon and stars are very close, within our atmosphere. Making claims based on poor photography is no different than the lies nasa tells us.
Thank you for your speedy reply.. I do agree that nasa lies, also that the sun, moon, and stars are all lights and are definitely closer than we’ve all been indoctrinated into believing.. praise the Lord for leading us to so many truths found in His Word about this topic.. I’m not convinced yet about the waters above, if there is or isn’t.. but you’ve given me something to chew on, blessings going forward!
@@ronhagberg Just thoughts: You said, and I agree with you: " I think the sun moon and stars are very close, within our atmosphere.". That I don't know, however, I agree that the apparent position they present is quite close to us and very consistent. Certainly, our limits of vision, the atmosphere and the 'electromagnetic environment' limit how far we can see the celestial objects.
I suspect a few hundred miles is a reasonable limit from the surface of the earth.
I agree, we perceive them to be close, they could be projected or reflected onto the air, or they could actually be that close, in either case I think what we see is within 100 miles.
@@ronhagberg I would agree with that distance. :)
Good job
I'm a truth seeker, and i do Believe in a firmament... However, even when I've explained this to the community for years, they still didn't believe it. It just doesn't fit their narrative. Really sad
So what is the truth? What is the answer to the questions?Who is right and who is wrong?
Makes me wonder about the motives of anyone attempting to pass these out of focus images off as true depiction of what these heavenly bodies look like, or that they are suspended in water. RFB, Russian Vids and others try to take down good people for much less. It's hard to trust anyone in this arena.
Gatekeepers and shills, they push that nonsense to discredit the whole community.
Astrotheologists. They want *so much* for the luminaries to be living beings.
There are hundreds of other P1000 star videos showing real stars in the firmament. You should be asking Nasa about attempts to pass CGI and fish eye lens as true depictions of what a flat earth and stars looks like..
@justinanthonyprochemdirect401 I am a flat earther, if you bothered to look at any of my content you would know that. I have never claimed that anything nasa says is true, and I don't care how many out of focus star videos you have seen, they still wrong. If you own a P100 or P900, you could test it for yourself. Focus, exposure, shutter speed, and F-stop settings are just a few of the things that you need to know about in photography, and they all mean something. The out of focus stars you so desperately defend are filmed in auto mode, these cameras have the smallest sensors of any camera on the market, they are not designed for low light photography, they are fairly capable if you know how to operate it, but sadly most people have no idea how to properly film at night with them, they are not capable of auto focusing and exposing at night. If you own one of these cameras and want to learn, I do have tutorial videos, if you do not own one, please stop blindly believing everything you see. I have clearly demonstrated the effects of being out of focus on artificial lights as well as stars and wandering stars and you can clearly see they are the same and these effects are caused by the camera. Some of the out of focus videos you see are an honest mistake made by people who don't know better, and some of them are done on purpose to confuse people and make flat earthers look stupid.
mars nd venus in water? no, we are
Looks like it's in water .
Looks can be deceiving
yes and so did the street light at the beginning. But I do believe there is water above because the bible says so. Have you seen those space x videos.Looks like a bullet traveling through water. There was a video by a Russian guy were the rocket bounced back and there was a ripple affect.n
I don't know if there is water up there or not, I do know that out of focus stars and wandering stars don't prove anything. The Bible says waters are above a solid firmament so I don't think those rockets are hitting water, I think they are trying to punch into the aether. The Bible also says God opened windows in the firmament to let the water come down to flood the earth, it doesn't say he ever put water back up there. I also think the tower of Babel was being built to get to those windows so they could open them to reach heaven, they must have thought there was no more water up there. We may never know these things in this life, and I'm ok with that, we will know soon enough.
@@ronhagberg David said there are still waters up there...its in the Bible
Would you come have a chat about these BS Star videos in 24 7 flat earth discord as some fe keep sharing this disinformation? We could set an event maybe and if you could present something then we can have a QnA if you felt that would be ok
Sure. A Saturday or Sunday would be best for me.
@@ronhagberg awesome bro I'll speak with our admin and get back to you mate, thanks for the reply
@@ronhagberg cool fam we have a thing called speculation Sunday so if you have a time that is reasonable world-wide like tea time evening ish for all?
So if you can give me a time and your timezone
so this will end the speculation of star videos 😉
Are you still in 247?
I am in the central time zone, it is 4:09 pm here now, Sunday evening will be good for me. I am still in 247, but I haven't been active.