I think I’ve watched this vid 100 times. It’s maybe 4 years old but… my tempest scrambler gets delivered this week. This video was a massive contributing factor. Thanks
Ian Porter- the thing I like about the choice of 125s at decent prices, is that they are getting people on to 2wheels, and in effect, sticking two fingers up at govt, which with the complicated test procedures etc, are trying to put folks off two wheels (personal view there). On a 125, you tend to select the back roads, and thus see more , smell more of the country, and if you do hit traffic, 125, are a doddle to filter on.
Love the roadster, I have to disagree with you regarding the rear light, I go with safety rather than looks, the light is big and bright and can be seen by following vehicles avoiding someone running up your backside.
The very fact that you're picky about trivia like the square rear light just shows what fantastic 125s these are. Tip: fit bar risers so the mirror height clears your elbows. Fitting mirrors with longer stems just makes them more vibe-prone.
Hi, lad's. Just got my Tempest today. Your right the off road springs give a comfortable ride. The mirrors are excellent. It is quite a tall bike. Couldn't hear the engine hardly because of the gale that was blowing today. So the most important thing everyone wants to know what did you think of the exhaust note like will have to wait.😂😂😂 Looks really nice in blue. Can't fault it. Looking forward to seeing you're scrambler finished. 👍👍
You guys just hit the 'Century (100) Likes' just now lol thanks for uploading some realistic CBT stuff bring some more Classic Retro CBT's please! Thanks for not using GOPRO footage too much I like the details of the this video very helpful for beginners
AJS, ORCAL, MASH, HERALD..They are all the same, same chassis, engine, tank, pegs, etc..only minor differences. My big question is, are they reliable? I mean a real-world test after let says 15000km or something like it. I heard from a mash 125 owner that in 20000km a lot of problems occurred. lambda sensor, electrical problems, and many more. They are very Beautiful bikes, no one can deny that if only honda or Yamaha made something simply like these and similar instead of their ugly CB125F and YBR125 respectively.
The large rear light on the Roadster was probably fitted to appear retro/old school to suit the rest of the bike. The large number plate bracket is however, naff.
I got a bit confused by the end on what comments are for each bikes, but maybe that is just because English is not my born language, but some info on the screen with the bikes names would help a lot;) just a tip for you guys.
Love the look of the bikes and the price is about right based on the competition. I was just concerned about the warranty. Only one year and you can only take it back to the dealer you bought it from rather than any in the network. Based on that I wouldn’t buy one which is a shame.
They don’t seem to think about where to put an L plate on any of the vintage style 125cc bikes.you would think they would take this into consideration considering they are aimed at new riders.I had to put my rear L plate on the reflector and it’s not very secure.
Thanks for the reviews on these and the Caldwell. Could you tell me how you found the riding position (handlebar etc) between the Tempest roadster and the Caldwell you also took out. Does the roadster have an easier riding style in your opinion. I have only sat on a Caldwell not had a chance to see the Tempest yet. Thanks for your input and detailed reviews by the way.
Hi...and thank you. The riding position of the Tempest is very comfortable and upright compared to the Cadwell's leaning forward position. The Cadwell is lower and feels more like a Cafe racer than the Tempest which feels like a roadster/cruiser with the 'old style' feel. These bikes cater for similar people as people who have come to look at the Cadwell have ended up buying a tempest and vice versa. I highly recommend sitting on the Tempest before you decide.
The roadster is just better whats the point of the scrambler if its not mainly made for off road u might as well have the better looking and nicer and most likely faster roadster and that is why i am buying the roadster.
Hi, great vid, I’ve been researching the Market for 125 classic looking bike, the AJS roadster is getting my attention. However I’m 6ft tall, would these bikes be tool small for me, ideally I like to visit a showroom and look at the bikes.
thanks for that. I did hear you say the roadster is good for 60-65mph but I was just wondering what's a comfortable cruising speed for it. I might have missed it so I'm sorry if I have. Thanks for your help
I’m now torn between the roadster and the Cadwell! Did you find much height difference between those two bikes Mark? Seen as they’re on the same frame but different seats, tanks and tyres!
Great video spoilt by horrendous music. Ditch it! And your mics need to be louder. Lovely bikes. the scrambler wins hands down. The street bike just looks like the Cadwell to me, though that is no insult. I asked AJS why they don't just reissue the Stormer. I'd buy that immediately!
Sorry for distrab,may be you don't understand my question.i like this baick.i want buy this baick.that's why I request you try to understand my question please.my question is 1 litter patrol =how many kilometer i can drive, if I used 1 litter patrol how many kilometer i can drive.
We don't sell bikes. We just review them. AR Motorcycles sell them. Look here: dandev.weebly.com/ Email them and tell them you saw the bike on Motors for the Masses; and ask them if they can sell one to you.
A nicely finished bike. But the engine is far too small for a roadster. Can only hope they think a larger donk would be great in the future. Small engines are just so Asian style and l mean India to. Where are these made and is it just an assembly from China manufacturer type situation/arrangement?
@@motorsforthemasses Thank you dudes. I'm 6ft 2 and wondering if I'll look too big. I know it shouldn't matter though. I've a chance to get a Tempest which is a good bike. I'm doing my CBT again with a view of working toward my full license this time.
I'm fed up of being broke and fat. I would love a new bike bit even if I could afford it, being a lump of lard hitting 60mph is hard work unless down hill with a fart.
I hear what you are saying. They do seem low on the BHP, but then again they are retro style everyday bikes and are probably not the type of bike to be ridden hard and fast
It's just a name. AJS was British, now Chinese. They are buying old companies and reviving traditional names. FB Mondial, 40's Italian racers, now owned by China. Same can be said for cars. Quality built Swedish, American, British cars now owned by China and so on. Yes, they have some shocking things but they are also now producing quality machines and in time will only improve.
Where I yearn for power also with most of my bikes being 1000cc and above, I do disagree. Light, nimble 125's can be great fun on back roads and dirt tracks.
A 125? Why bother producing such a small motor?! My very first bike was a 350, and that could hardly get me up long hills without working my gear box up and down every half minute. A 125 should not be called a roadster, it should be called a city commuter or something that reflects its capacity with honesty. And what kind of tempest would one expect to produce with such pissy motor l wonder?
I think I’ve watched this vid 100 times. It’s maybe 4 years old but… my tempest scrambler gets delivered this week. This video was a massive contributing factor. Thanks
I'd take the orange one.
Good to see new small bikes coming through.
Ian Porter- the thing I like about the choice of 125s at decent prices, is that they are getting people on to 2wheels, and in effect, sticking two fingers up at govt, which with the complicated test procedures etc, are trying to put folks off two wheels (personal view there). On a 125, you tend to select the back roads, and thus see more , smell more of the country, and if you do hit traffic, 125, are a doddle to filter on.
Agreed Jacques. It's just about screwing money out of people .whether on 2 wheels or four. The government just want you're money.
ajs are not a new company
The Tempest is definitely the bike I'm going for . Great show,guys 👍
Love the roadster, I have to disagree with you regarding the rear light, I go with safety rather than looks, the light is big and bright and can be seen by following vehicles avoiding someone running up your backside.
Thinking about getting one of these as my first bike
The very fact that you're picky about trivia like the square rear light just shows what fantastic 125s these are. Tip: fit bar risers so the mirror height clears your elbows. Fitting mirrors with longer stems just makes them more vibe-prone.
I own the tempest, in orange, on my channel and I've put a harley blast pipe on it
Love it! It's like a throwback to the 70's UJM's
Bought the tempest scrambler excellent on the road the tyres are fantastic for off-roading on byways
Fantastic!
Mark Fraser I’m picking up a Mojave Yellow Tempest Scrambler this weekend!;)
@@univoxphase4 How have you found it?
Just ordered a Tempest scrambler in blue. Great videos. Subscribed .👍👍
Fantastic, would be good to hear what you think of it.
Will let you know. Looking forward to getting it.
Hi, lad's. Just got my Tempest today. Your right the off road springs give a comfortable ride. The mirrors are excellent. It is quite a tall bike. Couldn't hear the engine hardly because of the gale that was blowing today. So the most important thing everyone wants to know what did you think of the exhaust note like will have to wait.😂😂😂 Looks really nice in blue. Can't fault it. Looking forward to seeing you're scrambler finished. 👍👍
That's great! Please be sure to post a pic of the bike to our facebook page so we can include on that and our website.
Hi! What is your long term review of the bike? Have you had some issues in the past 2 years?
Definitely the orange scrambler has it 👌🏻
AJS Cadwell 125 version still is best for me but its heads or tails for these two- cheers
Enjoyed the video guys , thanks for your un biased opinions.
Yes the scrambler has it. I think the dealers will have a lot of the roadsters left over. So might be able to get one of them cheaper in a few months?
Love the scrambler but the bullit hero just does it for me
I am sure whoever they are aimed at they would be happy!
I wish you had disclosed the engine displacement and the engine/transmission manufacturer . It would also be nice if they were sold in Canada .
You guys just hit the 'Century (100) Likes' just now lol thanks for uploading some realistic CBT stuff bring some more Classic Retro CBT's please! Thanks for not using GOPRO footage too much I like the details of the this video very helpful for beginners
Thank you for your feedback! Much appreciated.
Useful review and the scrambler certainly is a great looking bike, well worth a look
AJS, ORCAL, MASH, HERALD..They are all the same, same chassis, engine, tank, pegs, etc..only minor differences. My big question is, are they reliable? I mean a real-world test after let says 15000km or something like it. I heard from a mash 125 owner that in 20000km a lot of problems occurred. lambda sensor, electrical problems, and many more. They are very Beautiful bikes, no one can deny that if only honda or Yamaha made something simply like these and similar instead of their ugly CB125F and YBR125 respectively.
Like the tempest more. Would have to fit bar end mirrors on it to get around the problem of seeing behind you.
agree
Love the orange scrambler version the best . Great reviews lads 125's are fun bikes .
Thank you, they can be fun indeed!
The large rear light on the Roadster was probably fitted to appear retro/old school to suit the rest of the bike. The large number plate bracket is however, naff.
In Wesrern Europe, these two models are known as the Orcal Astor and Orcal Sirio (Scrambler).
I love my Orcal Astor (Roadster).
That back light though ?...not sure about that- I would have to change it
Great bikes and vid cheers lads ☺
I got a bit confused by the end on what comments are for each bikes, but maybe that is just because English is not my born language, but some info on the screen with the bikes names would help a lot;) just a tip for you guys.
Love the look of the bikes and the price is about right based on the competition. I was just concerned about the warranty. Only one year and you can only take it back to the dealer you bought it from rather than any in the network. Based on that I wouldn’t buy one which is a shame.
They don’t seem to think about where to put an L plate on any of the vintage style 125cc bikes.you would think they would take this into consideration considering they are aimed at new riders.I had to put my rear L plate on the reflector and it’s not very secure.
Indeed you are very right. Sadly Euro market is bigger than UK, so they go with that.
Hello big cuestión. What do you guy preferred between. A hero or the scrambler ????
Hmm, tricky. The looks of the Hero, the ride of the AJS
Thanks for the reviews on these and the Caldwell. Could you tell me how you found the riding position (handlebar etc) between the Tempest roadster and the Caldwell you also took out. Does the roadster have an easier riding style in your opinion. I have only sat on a Caldwell not had a chance to see the Tempest yet. Thanks for your input and detailed reviews by the way.
Hi...and thank you. The riding position of the Tempest is very comfortable and upright compared to the Cadwell's leaning forward position. The Cadwell is lower and feels more like a Cafe racer than the Tempest which feels like a roadster/cruiser with the 'old style' feel. These bikes cater for similar people as people who have come to look at the Cadwell have ended up buying a tempest and vice versa. I highly recommend sitting on the Tempest before you decide.
The roadster is just better whats the point of the scrambler if its not mainly made for off road u might as well have the better looking and nicer and most likely faster roadster and that is why i am buying the roadster.
Fantastic! Let us know your thoughts on it.
Most certainly will!
Hi, great vid, I’ve been researching the Market for 125 classic looking bike, the AJS roadster is getting my attention.
However I’m 6ft tall, would these bikes be tool small for me, ideally I like to visit a showroom and look at the bikes.
I think they would be fine. What about the Bullit Hero?
Will you guys be doing a review on the AJS Ibasa?
We did the Mash Falcone a year ago....which is the same
What's the service interval mileage. I've heard the some Chinese models can be very short.
What’s the speed like on the Scrambler? I have a regal raptor 125 and they are very slow!
We're is the AJS factory located ?
China got it going on. Respect. Scrambler looks fab.
The video was two years ago, what is the price now ?Feb 2021
Dose it have tubes or tubeless
Are the seats particularly low in your opinion? They don't look it in this but in other sources they do look really low down
Not particularly, typical commuter/tourer style height I would say
thanks for that. I did hear you say the roadster is good for 60-65mph but I was just wondering what's a comfortable cruising speed for it. I might have missed it so I'm sorry if I have. Thanks for your help
The scrambler looks great.. a few home tweaks and a coat of anti rust all over... it could be perfect. Shame they dont do it in a 250cc
I’m now torn between the roadster and the Cadwell! Did you find much height difference between those two bikes Mark? Seen as they’re on the same frame but different seats, tanks and tyres!
The cadwell did feel a little smaller but both ride equally as well.
Is it possible to change the Scramblers seat for something softer and more comfy??
I think that would ruin the feel and look; unless it was a similar seat...then what would be the point?
Have YOU seen the new JAWA , yesterday 15th? A Glorious BRAND now by MAHINDRA , have a look ....hard times for Royal Enfield.
I like the new Bobber they do...a brand to look out for!
Great video spoilt by horrendous music. Ditch it! And your mics need to be louder. Lovely bikes. the scrambler wins hands down. The street bike just looks like the Cadwell to me, though that is no insult. I asked AJS why they don't just reissue the Stormer. I'd buy that immediately!
Mondial Hipster; couple of hundred more, but a great. Piaggio engine.
A bike which I have myself
Does scrambler only come in orange?
Luke Jenky Also in yellow and blue.
Maybe I missed it but, did you do a top speed run on these? Will they get to 65mph?
Just....on a very good day!
Are these bikes only sold in the UK?
and Jersey
In West-Europe you can find them as Orcal Astor (Roadster) and Orcal Sirio (Scrambler).
Anyone managed to locate a rear luggage rack for the Tempest Scrambler? If so, what’s a good fitting pair of saddle bags for this bike?:)
18:43 -18:50 Love the dancing.
hahaha
Sorry for distrab,may be you don't understand my question.i like this baick.i want buy this baick.that's why I request you try to understand my question please.my question is 1 litter patrol =how many kilometer i can drive, if I used 1 litter patrol how many kilometer i can drive.
In UK we use Miles Per Gallon. If my calculations are correct, it seems to be 42 km per litre
The scrambler looks better but they should have put a high mount exhaust silencer on it. Shame.
Good call! Perhaps they were going for the Great Escape bike look?
The high pipe looks good but gets in the way of your right leg when your up on the footpegs.
Did you ever figure out a way to affix an “L” plate to the scrambler?
I want one for my wife....
You want an 'L' plate for your wife !.......
Thank you.how i buy a baick from you?If I buy how I gate it?
We don't sell bikes. We just review them. AR Motorcycles sell them. Look here: dandev.weebly.com/
Email them and tell them you saw the bike on Motors for the Masses; and ask them if they can sell one to you.
Could you please confirm us about this biack mileage . Please
Sorry I'm confused about what you mean?
hi whats your helmet combination names, brands ect
Viper Chequered and Viper mask
Thank for the fast reply!, looks great
A nicely finished bike. But the engine is far too small for a roadster. Can only hope they think a larger donk would be great in the future. Small engines are just so Asian style and l mean India to. Where are these made and is it just an assembly from China manufacturer type situation/arrangement?
"Ball catcher" tail light ? 🥺
How tall are you gents?
I'm 5ft 10 & 1/2. Malc is 5ft 11&1/2
@@motorsforthemasses Thank you dudes. I'm 6ft 2 and wondering if I'll look too big. I know it shouldn't matter though. I've a chance to get a Tempest which is a good bike. I'm doing my CBT again with a view of working toward my full license this time.
I'm fed up of being broke and fat. I would love a new bike bit even if I could afford it, being a lump of lard hitting 60mph is hard work unless down hill with a fart.
I am 100kg...Malcolm is more! They are not too bad.
Motors for the Masses I'm like over 125kg riding a Honda cg125 only picking up 55 max. May be I should just lose weight...
I want to know you this baick if I used 1 litter patrol how many kilometers i can drive? Please
Hi, apparently 118 mpg
Bishops hat! Lolest
So who makes and now and we're a they made?
Dobrá práce, koukni je náš project Suzuki DR 650 Scrambler ;-) ua-cam.com/video/9UmDZDTb8Yw/v-deo.html
Got taste mines yellow
It's allot of bike but not enough motor
I hear what you are saying. They do seem low on the BHP, but then again they are retro style everyday bikes and are probably not the type of bike to be ridden hard and fast
@@motorsforthemasses
I live in California and a slow bike can get you killed just as fast a bike that can go over 120mh.
Fair enough. A 400 you would expect would go past 100mph especially in 2018; and these don't. My 1978 Honda 400 four has a top speed of 104 mph
@@motorsforthemasses
Awesome thanks. Keep up the good work fellas I love the videos. Hope to see a video on the new RE 650 models. 👍
Sad to see Chinese bikes with European branding
Sadly when European brands fail...the Chinese often step in and buy them cheap....clever business sense really.
Boxey looking .
Why 125 ??? we need a bigger motor??
flyingcutless They're learner bikes!!??
Masch,AJS, same bike same stuf same schitt,comme on do'nt call that bike an AJS my AJS 7r gona cry
It's just a name. AJS was British, now Chinese. They are buying old companies and reviving traditional names. FB Mondial, 40's Italian racers, now owned by China. Same can be said for cars. Quality built Swedish, American, British cars now owned by China and so on. Yes, they have some shocking things but they are also now producing quality machines and in time will only improve.
it's not an AJS it's an somewhere made with japanese surplus parts in fact suzuki so it's not an ajs
These bikes are to under powered to be much fun ,850cc about right
Where I yearn for power also with most of my bikes being 1000cc and above, I do disagree. Light, nimble 125's can be great fun on back roads and dirt tracks.
You can gift me a cafe racer please
Nice bikes. Cringeworthy music.
Look cheap and nasty
Who wants to buy a bike that is english Retro with such small engine's ? No one
Me, cos im learning to ride
A 125? Why bother producing such a small motor?! My very first bike was a 350, and that could hardly get me up long hills without working my gear box up and down every half minute. A 125 should not be called a roadster, it should be called a city commuter or something that reflects its capacity with honesty. And what kind of tempest would one expect to produce with such pissy motor l wonder?
I'm guessing for people who are either too young to ride over a 125 or people who only want to do or can only afford to do a CBT.
No definitely two , stupid bikes....
Why?
The music spoiled the doco.