Is Your Forehand like Rublev's? - Pro vs Rec Forehand Comparison | Before & After Tennis
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Andre Rublev has a simple, repeatable forehand that we can all learn from and try to emulate. We compare a recreational player's forehand with Andre Rublev's and dissect the differences. We also touch on the "ATP vs WTA Forehand" debate/discussion... and conclude that while differences in body shape and size do contribute, it's more about the dimensions of the court.
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Excellent instructions and analysis. Great correctional drills too. I attended a workshop from Pat Cash (in HK many years ago) and he placed his hand with index finger of non dominant hand at the base of the racket face that would hit the ball during the unit turn. (Similar to having your whole hand on the back of the racket face. Cash's method being on the front face can be used more naturally and you are always aware of the position/angle of the racket face.
Hey Mark, thank you for the kind words. Really appreciate that. 👍🏽
Over corrected is right. Racquet arm and shoulders should form a close to straight line backwards for proper rotation. This is where most rec players fail by either rotating too far, as in your example, or not enough. Racquet can still be kept to the outside, strings down. This increases torso rotation into the ball and helps to add to a natural racquet "flip" adding more power. I know this example was not about racquet acceleration, but another good tip is to think of accelerating into hitting the ball with a "WHOOSH" that grows acceleration and power that maximizes at the point of contact rather than muscling the shot forward from the full backswing position. 2:11
Muscle strength probably play an role to. If your not strong, kinda hard to get enough power with the right swing.
Absolutely. We're purely talking about the technical side here. We're not even considering the physical side here!
Woo I know now what I’m supposed to do ~ thanks Coach happy learning!!
No worries. Great improvement. Keep working on getting just a little more separation between the shoulders and the hips
You should show Rublev with his racquet fully flipped at the same time as the rec player being fully back. There is still a difference but it isn’t that large. Otherwise use the hand, not the racquet as your reference. BTW, the timing on Rublev’s racquet flip is trickier than the simple swing around, WTA swing. The advantage is that it is quicker and results in more spin, not that the timing is easier. Your net drill may have messed him up. The advantage of not supinating in the backswing is that it maximizes the racquet flip at the last second creating a rebound. That net drill while a way to get the concept across will lead to an inadequate racquet flip. The racquet flip has to go to the end of the player’s shoulder external range of motion to be effective, otherwise one isn’t taking advantage of the stretch reflex. A better drill is feeding a player who has the racquet fully taken back next to a fence behind them so that all of the racquet flip has to be a result of the hand moving forward. Any supination/ shoulder external rotation prior to the hand moving forward will cause the racquet to hit the fence. It is fine if the racquet flip causes the racquet head to go behind the body as can be seen from Rublev and to an extreme Nadal.
Please analyse Aaron Kriekstein, he always fascinated me as a kid
Do you have any suggested videos of him?
Outside of efficient timing and connection, can you highlight or explain how to create power without having the large spun up wind up?
Yes. You want to create separation (turning the shoulders more than the hips), and you also want to load the legs and drive from the ground up to unwind those body segments into the hit. It's about putting the larger muscles of your body on stretch. And, you also want to use gravity-assisted racket speed (taking the racket head high)! Good luck with your forehand
what kind of courts are those?
Synthetic grass. Really popular in Australia and New Zealand. Japan, too, I believe?
Good video on dropping the racquet hesd, but nothing on the foot work?
What would you like to know about footwork?
@BeforeandAfterTennis hip rotation, open stance..., the foot work is noticeably different
you should do one on stan wawrinkas backhand
What particularly do you want to know about his backhand?
@@BeforeandAfterTennis it was more just a vid very similar to this one I have a ohb meself and I try and learn a lot from him
Ok. would you like to send me some footage? malharbeforeandaftertennis@gmail.com if you are interested! @@harleyturner836
I am curious on your thoughts about the takeback. The one-handed BH usually has the racquet head break the plane of the player's body. Is there any space or thought to having the BH takeback on the same side you're hitting with? The 1h-BH is supposed to easier than the FH or 2h-BH but it would seem you have a much more complex calculation the way the shot is usually hit? @@BeforeandAfterTennis
There is no way a rec player can hit like that. It's very uncomfortable movement.
While hitting exactly like Rublev would take decades of repetitions and building the body of a world-class athlete, there are specific components that rec players can copy that would help them to also hit the ball better.
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Thanks for all the support, Nathan. Much appreciated!