It took me probably 4 years to realize that "don't chase singed" isn't because the poison will kill you but rather that objectives and things that you give up makes it never worth it
It was always because the poison will kill you we just slowly started to learn the EXP missing part and the objective takedown. Do you really think that some brofresco knew that 4 years ago?
yeah dude, this was basicly you saying what he does and than just saying - counter it, while not talkin details which are the most important thing, for example. he might proxy the 1st wave , second nvm, and u try to kill him, there is a good chance you wont and you just lose ur 1st wave to the tower, then u need help, than the snowball starts. How about mentioning specific champions and their counterstrats, my example would be mundo, to slow him with cleavers and clear well, tanking the cs
The bush tactic is really nice. I always told my top laner to escord the minion wave from the inhib to T1 tower. Anyway, good vid. One last concern... aren't two minutes getting too long for the pre game lookup?
I love playing nasus against him, with fleet footwork, teleport, and ghost. I W him and then ult and ghost and just run him down until he dies and he can’t escape
Speaking as a singed main, i can surely assure you that 50% of what was said in this video is incorrect. The type of singed I play is distractor singed, the type of singed that mainly utilizes insane speed, combined with taunts and recalls to annoy the enemy team into following me so my team can take objectives or kill enemies or cs in peace (yes there are multiple types and ways to play singed and each of them have their own counters, the easiest way to tell them apart are their summoner spells). First i'll explain to you why certain information in this guide is incorrect, then I will explain what is the best way to really counter singed. The first incorrect statement was that it was easy to kill a lvl 1 proxy singed. A good singed player will often look at their mini-map basically all the time, and use certain hints and clues to find out what their best plan of action is. If toplaner is mia, then it means 1 out of 2 things, 1. the toplaner is helping leash topside buff, or 2. the toplaner has set up a coordinated assault on singed, either which lets him know its a bad idea to continue proxying. If the midlaner is mia, then its a coordinated assault which might look like it's in your favor but you should realize that singed has ghost and it is even advised to every singed main, if you are proxying and if you are assaulted or even simply bullied a bit by the toplaner, use ghost. It may seem like you took out a summoner spell of his but ghost has a 3 min cd which come off cd when he most needs it, when junglers start to gank at lvl 3. I've been under multiple coordinated assaults and in my experience, everyone of them has ended with me blowing ghost and escaping, and either one or even both of the people chasing me blowing flash to kill me, plus they also wasted valuable time csing which was what I intended. Second incorrect statement is fighting singed without insanity potion. A good singed knows the cd of his insanity potion and let me tell you, it is a lot like tryndamere's ult, always assume it is always up. If you think you can outlast his ult, think again because it lasts about 20 seconds, longer than most skirmishes. But if you do somehow end up waiting those long hard 20 seconds of his ult and think you can come back and fight him, well prepare for his plan b. Many people forget that singed has both ghost and his ult and a good singed knows how to correctly manage his cds for both. Ghost to singed is basically just as good as his ult, the increased movement speed lets him dodge more skillshots so he effectively takes just as less damage than with his ult. When I proxy, i make sure either ghost or ult is up, during those sometimes when i want to double proxy, i make sure i have both up. Now i know I have iterated the word GOOD singed but just to be clear, 20% of the singed players you will encounter are the new players who don't quite understand how he works, and either are playing him to get better or because they went against one and got demolished. The rest 80% are the die hard singed mains who know everything they are doing and have everything calculated. Unfortunately there is a 50% of those singed worshipers who should actually fear, the singed mains who are either trolls who fed their promos and got placed in iron 4 as a joke with their friends, but in game can dodge virtually any skillshot. Now lets finally get to the part you've all been waiting for (if your still reading lol), how to counter singed! The simplest way to counter proxy singed is... obviously a coordinated team. While you might be smart and not chase singed, your teammates might not be so bright. One thing this guide was right about was the fact that chasing singed is a waste of time. Sometimes it's best to let a singed do his thing because without singed in the picture, its a 4v5 and singed's team is missing a tank(don't forget that singed sometimes takes teleport which allows him to get in on the action). Plus the biggest way to beat a proxy singed is... singed's own crappy team. Proxy singed is very dependent on his team to take objectives, fight when they have the advantage, but when singed's team is the type that takes scuttle or gromp when singed is 1v5ing, then its an easy win to you. Plus paired with the marginal >1% of players who even play singed, the chances of you coming across a singed is about 1/100. Singed's worst fear are adcs, because while singed is fast enough to dodge a speeding bullet, he unfortunately can't dodge a homing speeding bullet, especially kai'sa's q, which can shred tanks to a quarter of their health. Now laner singed is a bit different(singed's who take ghost/flash and ignite). I don't have much experience with laner singed but regard him like Darius, don't fight him early! He can do massive damage at lvl 2 with flip, poison trail, his minions attacking you and ignite. Singed is already counter picked by a lot of champions especially ranged ones and if you really want to be satan and make the singed suffer, go make a mushroom minefield in between outer and middle top turret. Make the singed regret coming in to proxy ;). Well that is really all, if you read through it all, thank you and I hope this helps in your future endeavors.
Ok but help me with this situation. I am a toplaner and i go against a singed, he proxys my first wave and i can't do shit about it, so i farm as good as i can and i lose various minions to the tower. My jg is too much of a dumbass to organize an attack with me to kill singed, so he just proxys all my minions while i lose a lot of farm. Then we reach the point when he stops proxyng and comes to lane to fuck me, his jg ganks me while mine is killing some fucking crab, i die, and then he just becomes this fucking this indestructible tank with a jet engine shoved up his ass that just runs around you until you die or you break your head against your fucking keyboard.If you show me the way to win a 1v1 lane against a singed it would be appreciated.(And yes, i just got fucked by a singed for the first time because my jg was a dick and i got the enemy jg camping me while the other fucker proxyed)
@@AlejandroAcosta-pl9ep try move speed garen? search it up on youtube : MYW -PROXY GAREN , its in french but you should understand the build etc just by looking at it
Ded Boi, She won't get nerfed because she is an adc that has legit everything. That's why riot gave her everything like, Shield, gapclosers, long range skill shots, magic damage, physical damage, aoe damage, invis, movement speed, and more attack speed. They purposely made her broken because she is an Adc that has all those and doesn't need crit items therefore wasn't harmed as much in crit item changes.
Basically, singed when he ults becomes really fast and when he gets dead man's plate it's even worse. You're almost never gonna catch him once he has boots+items so why waste your time? Unless someone on your time has an AOE CC (like Leona ult or even Anivia R) to try and slow him then your team can try and all in him. But, usually you're wasting time trying to chase him so you may as well make him regret trying to proxy by doing something else rather than chasing him.
The other day i was playing in a ranked game, and I swear to god, I was playing with camille against a singed, and everything that he said in this video happened in the game, he proxy farmed and he got feed realy quick, we lost that game, thanks for the info
She has a weak laning phase, so aggressive lane champs can bully her fairly often if she doesn't have her e wall-dash or w slow up. Furthermore, without tiamat, her farming speed is significantly lowered and she's more likely to miss cs, so you use that to your advantage by pushing her in or zoning her away. Until she gets sheen, she'll have a mana and car problem. However once she gets Trinity, she hits her first major power spike, but that should be a while
camile is pretty much the strongest top laner right now, so what you can do is ban her and wait for nerfs. However, if i have to name, then Singed can out run Camile and cancel her ult with his flip. Camile jungle is much like Zac jungle, you want to actively invade early to stop her from ganking you, cuz you can't really run away once she is in range for ganking you. However you might not be a jungler when they have Camile jungle and your jungler sucks, if that's the case then game over i guest.
How to beat Sona: Step 1: Give her a full -nerf- rework. Step 2: Release DJ Sona. Step 3: Mage update. Step 4: ADC update. Step 5: Assassin update. Step 6: Tank update. Step 7: Release Runes Reforged. Remember to make sure that Sona's counters receive heavier buffs than Sona along with the ADCs getting crazy-good runes. Step 8: Nerf Sona's damage. Step 8: -Nerf- Balance the runes Sona uses. Step 9: Release another Tank update. Step 10: Release another Assassin update. Step 11: Nerf Stopwatch. Congratulations, you have effectively gutted a League of Legends champion, nerfed her to Hell and back 3 times over and made everyone completely aware she exists and experienced in countering her. All while she puts on a smile pretending everything's fine when in reality, it really isn't. ...... Step 12: For good measure, remind her that her mommy's dead and she couldn't stop it from happening thanks to her disability.
Apparently everyone during the DJ Sona release. We had an influx of new Sona "one tricks" that wanted her bad in champ select. Also, I feel empathy for a fictional character.
@@miluzyt In my experience the only ranged champ that singed has problem with is vayne due to her mobility and the fact she can push you away, ghost, proto, tabi and bramble is a must to even 1v1 a vayne as singed
It took me probably 4 years to realize that "don't chase singed" isn't because the poison will kill you but rather that objectives and things that you give up makes it never worth it
It was always because the poison will kill you we just slowly started to learn the EXP missing part and the objective takedown. Do you really think that some brofresco knew that 4 years ago?
Hey. At least you know now. That's progress.
omg i always thought his poison was the reason why
And thats why you are low iqed gold player!
As a Singed main, I would love to down vote this comment into oblivion
yeah dude, this was basicly you saying what he does and than just saying - counter it, while not talkin details which are the most important thing, for example. he might proxy the 1st wave , second nvm, and u try to kill him, there is a good chance you wont and you just lose ur 1st wave to the tower, then u need help, than the snowball starts. How about mentioning specific champions and their counterstrats, my example would be mundo, to slow him with cleavers and clear well, tanking the cs
So basically if my adc is trash we cant kill him and lose the game?
The bush tactic is really nice. I always told my top laner to escord the minion wave from the inhib to T1 tower. Anyway, good vid. One last concern... aren't two minutes getting too long for the pre game lookup?
you guys should recommend some champions to play agaisnt the one who you want to counter :)
Informative as always, keep up the great work!
All he said is "dont follow singed" the hole vid ,lile wtf..
I REALLY appreciate you making this! I thought that the only way to beat Singed is to beat him early game and use Kayle as a counter. 😅
I love playing nasus against him, with fleet footwork, teleport, and ghost. I W him and then ult and ghost and just run him down until he dies and he can’t escape
Klef and Yoric are mega annoying, illaoi too. If you can I'd love a video on those
thanks man
Singed ❄ it's legendary man
Dude
FINALLY, FINALLY, FINALLY, FINALLY, FINALLY, FINALLY, FINALLY, FINALLY!
fuc man, I got beat by him so hard, and he’s so tanky as well, and does shit ton of damge
Counter Play Ilaoi pleaseeee
Jhonny Sepúlveda Suárez dodge her skillshots, stand behind minions so she cant E you.
Go away from her when she ults.
That's easy
Speaking as a singed main, i can surely assure you that 50% of what was said in this video is incorrect. The type of singed I play is distractor singed, the type of singed that mainly utilizes insane speed, combined with taunts and recalls to annoy the enemy team into following me so my team can take objectives or kill enemies or cs in peace (yes there are multiple types and ways to play singed and each of them have their own counters, the easiest way to tell them apart are their summoner spells). First i'll explain to you why certain information in this guide is incorrect, then I will explain what is the best way to really counter singed. The first incorrect statement was that it was easy to kill a lvl 1 proxy singed. A good singed player will often look at their mini-map basically all the time, and use certain hints and clues to find out what their best plan of action is. If toplaner is mia, then it means 1 out of 2 things, 1. the toplaner is helping leash topside buff, or 2. the toplaner has set up a coordinated assault on singed, either which lets him know its a bad idea to continue proxying. If the midlaner is mia, then its a coordinated assault which might look like it's in your favor but you should realize that singed has ghost and it is even advised to every singed main, if you are proxying and if you are assaulted or even simply bullied a bit by the toplaner, use ghost. It may seem like you took out a summoner spell of his but ghost has a 3 min cd which come off cd when he most needs it, when junglers start to gank at lvl 3. I've been under multiple coordinated assaults and in my experience, everyone of them has ended with me blowing ghost and escaping, and either one or even both of the people chasing me blowing flash to kill me, plus they also wasted valuable time csing which was what I intended. Second incorrect statement is fighting singed without insanity potion. A good singed knows the cd of his insanity potion and let me tell you, it is a lot like tryndamere's ult, always assume it is always up. If you think you can outlast his ult, think again because it lasts about 20 seconds, longer than most skirmishes. But if you do somehow end up waiting those long hard 20 seconds of his ult and think you can come back and fight him, well prepare for his plan b. Many people forget that singed has both ghost and his ult and a good singed knows how to correctly manage his cds for both. Ghost to singed is basically just as good as his ult, the increased movement speed lets him dodge more skillshots so he effectively takes just as less damage than with his ult. When I proxy, i make sure either ghost or ult is up, during those sometimes when i want to double proxy, i make sure i have both up. Now i know I have iterated the word GOOD singed but just to be clear, 20% of the singed players you will encounter are the new players who don't quite understand how he works, and either are playing him to get better or because they went against one and got demolished. The rest 80% are the die hard singed mains who know everything they are doing and have everything calculated. Unfortunately there is a 50% of those singed worshipers who should actually fear, the singed mains who are either trolls who fed their promos and got placed in iron 4 as a joke with their friends, but in game can dodge virtually any skillshot. Now lets finally get to the part you've all been waiting for (if your still reading lol), how to counter singed! The simplest way to counter proxy singed is... obviously a coordinated team. While you might be smart and not chase singed, your teammates might not be so bright. One thing this guide was right about was the fact that chasing singed is a waste of time. Sometimes it's best to let a singed do his thing because without singed in the picture, its a 4v5 and singed's team is missing a tank(don't forget that singed sometimes takes teleport which allows him to get in on the action). Plus the biggest way to beat a proxy singed is... singed's own crappy team. Proxy singed is very dependent on his team to take objectives, fight when they have the advantage, but when singed's team is the type that takes scuttle or gromp when singed is 1v5ing, then its an easy win to you. Plus paired with the marginal >1% of players who even play singed, the chances of you coming across a singed is about 1/100. Singed's worst fear are adcs, because while singed is fast enough to dodge a speeding bullet, he unfortunately can't dodge a homing speeding bullet, especially kai'sa's q, which can shred tanks to a quarter of their health. Now laner singed is a bit different(singed's who take ghost/flash and ignite). I don't have much experience with laner singed but regard him like Darius, don't fight him early! He can do massive damage at lvl 2 with flip, poison trail, his minions attacking you and ignite. Singed is already counter picked by a lot of champions especially ranged ones and if you really want to be satan and make the singed suffer, go make a mushroom minefield in between outer and middle top turret. Make the singed regret coming in to proxy ;). Well that is really all, if you read through it all, thank you and I hope this helps in your future endeavors.
Ok but help me with this situation. I am a toplaner and i go against a singed, he proxys my first wave and i can't do shit about it, so i farm as good as i can and i lose various minions to the tower. My jg is too much of a dumbass to organize an attack with me to kill singed, so he just proxys all my minions while i lose a lot of farm. Then we reach the point when he stops proxyng and comes to lane to fuck me, his jg ganks me while mine is killing some fucking crab, i die, and then he just becomes this fucking this indestructible tank with a jet engine shoved up his ass that just runs around you until you die or you break your head against your fucking keyboard.If you show me the way to win a 1v1 lane against a singed it would be appreciated.(And yes, i just got fucked by a singed for the first time because my jg was a dick and i got the enemy jg camping me while the other fucker proxyed)
@@AlejandroAcosta-pl9ep try move speed garen? search it up on youtube : MYW -PROXY GAREN , its in french but you should understand the build etc just by looking at it
Is there a particular champ that counter singed?
hashinshin
Great content !
Pantheon
Kai'Sa pls.
Just ban her , thats it kata
atm, she's pretty broken. She needs them nerfs first.
Ded Boi, She won't get nerfed because she is an adc that has legit everything. That's why riot gave her everything like, Shield, gapclosers, long range skill shots, magic damage, physical damage, aoe damage, invis, movement speed, and more attack speed. They purposely made her broken because she is an Adc that has all those and doesn't need crit items therefore wasn't harmed as much in crit item changes.
So basically... let him do his thing.... Helpful lol.
Basically, singed when he ults becomes really fast and when he gets dead man's plate it's even worse. You're almost never gonna catch him once he has boots+items so why waste your time?
Unless someone on your time has an AOE CC (like Leona ult or even Anivia R) to try and slow him then your team can try and all in him. But, usually you're wasting time trying to chase him so you may as well make him regret trying to proxy by doing something else rather than chasing him.
The other day i was playing in a ranked game, and I swear to god, I was playing with camille against a singed, and everything that he said in this video happened in the game, he proxy farmed and he got feed realy quick, we lost that game, thanks for the info
Can you try making a long video, than some tips ? It would be appreciated.
would play Singed more often but my team isnt smart enough to know it is a 4v 3 or do objs.
counterplay literally every champion please.
How to Win as singed ?
Nohoarii ARNOULD take notes on what not to do from this
Make a how to beat a on hit lategame champ who can snowball early, one shot everyone and go all in because he doesnt give a fck: Jax
this is useless when low elo jungler chase him and he gets ahead on farm and items.
Heimerdinger? Next
fizz plz
TL;DR: You can't do anything if your bot is stupid.
eh wasn't as helpful as I wanted. should have talked about lane counters, how to lane and how to coordinate with jungler
Are you in the Illuminati?
Counter play against nasus I thought that low elo people can’t win against this champion
THHHAAAANL YOUUUU LOOOVE THIS!!
what to do when i we win lane
How to counter fizz please
Now do Pantheon please! . - .
He is also strong in team fight tho so many cc
Thanks to this video i woped a main singed ass with a darius😂
Hanshinshinshinshin
Camille!
KR Λpprentice Stop watch and Zhonya. If you are and ADC and you feel like you cannot buy a guardian Angel then pick a Lulu, Alistar, or Tahm Kench.
Her laning phase is pretty opressive, if she goes jungle the ganks are amazing, how do you counter that?
ahah ihih but Morgana
She has a weak laning phase, so aggressive lane champs can bully her fairly often if she doesn't have her e wall-dash or w slow up. Furthermore, without tiamat, her farming speed is significantly lowered and she's more likely to miss cs, so you use that to your advantage by pushing her in or zoning her away. Until she gets sheen, she'll have a mana and car problem. However once she gets Trinity, she hits her first major power spike, but that should be a while
camile is pretty much the strongest top laner right now, so what you can do is ban her and wait for nerfs. However, if i have to name, then Singed can out run Camile and cancel her ult with his flip. Camile jungle is much like Zac jungle, you want to actively invade early to stop her from ganking you, cuz you can't really run away once she is in range for ganking you. However you might not be a jungler when they have Camile jungle and your jungler sucks, if that's the case then game over i guest.
well i didn't but my team does chase him anyway
How to beat Sona:
Step 1: Give her a full -nerf- rework.
Step 2: Release DJ Sona.
Step 3: Mage update.
Step 4: ADC update.
Step 5: Assassin update.
Step 6: Tank update.
Step 7: Release Runes Reforged. Remember to make sure that Sona's counters receive heavier buffs than Sona along with the ADCs getting crazy-good runes.
Step 8: Nerf Sona's damage.
Step 8: -Nerf- Balance the runes Sona uses.
Step 9: Release another Tank update.
Step 10: Release another Assassin update.
Step 11: Nerf Stopwatch.
Congratulations, you have effectively gutted a League of Legends champion, nerfed her to Hell and back 3 times over and made everyone completely aware she exists and experienced in countering her. All while she puts on a smile pretending everything's fine when in reality, it really isn't.
......
Step 12: For good measure, remind her that her mommy's dead and she couldn't stop it from happening thanks to her disability.
Who d fck wants a champ with absolutely 0 mechanics and pretty much no counterplay to be strong?
Henrique Azevedo +1
+Henrique Azevedo *Laughs in Master Yi
Apparently everyone during the DJ Sona release. We had an influx of new Sona "one tricks" that wanted her bad in champ select.
Also, I feel empathy for a fictional character.
Lol "Kite"
Fizz pls
Pantheon plz
WAIT 0 CHAMP FOR COUNTER SINGED RLY NIGGA U MISS HECARIM
NERF SINGED NERF SINGED NERF SINGEd NERF SINGED
Don’t chase him lol
Darius v:
Fizz plssss
Camile
or pick ranged champ and he will int
Not really, he can slow and fling so he has an option to kill ranged champions like Vayne, Teemo, etc.
@@miluzyt In my experience the only ranged champ that singed has problem with is vayne due to her mobility and the fact she can push you away, ghost, proto, tabi and bramble is a must to even 1v1 a vayne as singed
@@doregami6971 yeah she's like this one champion range that Singed can have a problem with
I always chase singed
2 years later, do u still chase him?
@@rath3289 he has fallen out of meta but in season 8 he was a real terror so I had much more opportunities to chase him
Kite
Great content but too short
gp pls
Yasuo
Zed
Don't follow him on instagram!
Srry bro, there's no counter for a good proxy singed :/
Lol ez
this video really didnt help me too much ( probably because im already the best player) ;)
Yasuo
Freljord Taliyah he did it already