It’s actually ridiculous how this is literally my exact cpu + GPU on my first build. Upgraded to the R5 5600x and an RX 6700 XT just recently, but that initial combo had me set for 3 years at a great starting point.
The RX 580 8GB was such a bargain when released. It can still play pretty much every game. Thanks for the likes, I have a benchmark channel if you want to check it out!
It's quite nice that the old RX580 is still hanging on as the medium settings standard. Built a HoloISO (Steam Deck OS) system with this GPU. Absolutely solid workhorse
I used to have an RX 580 8gb before it kicked the bucket months after I bought it. It does fairly well in most titles and the 8gb of VRAM gives it enough headway in modern titles. Great video as usual!
@@Kaguyaaa_x_x It began to hard crash with pixels and stripes all over the screen when I played games and I could never figure out the cause. I eventually sold it and bought a better card.
Interestingly I also thought my first upgrade from the Ryzen 5 2600 & rx580 8 gig combo would be the GPU, but funnily enough I got CPU bottlenecked in the games I wanted to play first, the game that stood out to me was God Of War targetting 1080p @ 60fps. Edit-Upgrading to the R5 3600 solved most of my issues, thought I'd point this out since it's the opposite experience to the TBF solid advice you have given. The R5 3600 is a substantial upgrade & 100% worth considering.
if you want more fps ALWAYS upgrade cpu first then ram speeds then last upgrade gpu only upgrade gpu when ur at the fastest ram speed ur platform can handle and ur at the fastest cpu cap
So Rx 580 + R5 3600 in a B450 motherboard = no bottleneck ? and if u don't mind, what PSU do u recommend ? (I'm new and i'm just targettting 1080p & 60fps) Thanks in advance :)
@@Aladdin-Drj Well there were still frame drops, but those are GPU bound and it wasn't too bad, but i have a freesync monitor so it was still very playable. RX580 doesn't get support any more, just a head up. Just check some reviews, I have a 550watt corsair white certified, and it's been just fine for 6+years. I'd recommend something from a reputable brand like corsair and 600watt+ bronze certified. FYI I have a dirt cheap a320 board got it for £29.00 brand new with delivery all those years ago :-)
I used to run this combination up until 2021... then got an rtx 3080 gaming laptop. RX580 is still super strong for 1080p in my opinion especially with FSR.
@@SharkButtholio laptop gaming > pc gaming. You can go and game everywhere, even in the go. And these new laptops have almost the same performance like PCs
I know I'm too late for this one ..5 years late apparently I'm looking to build a PC with this combo can you tell how it's treating you with the new titles ?
This is the combo I started out on in 2020 except with a R5 3600. Very capable for a ton of games and the 580 was able to do very well in 1080p gaming. The one I had was given to me, I gave it to someone else and when they upgraded it went to another buddies PC. It’s been in like 4 of our systems and my friend still games on it today!
@@wayland7150 I wouldn’t say it’s huge but there is a difference. With how cheap you can get a 3600 now account I think that is a better choice imo. Either one would make a solid starter though
That was my combo too, only I had a 4GB RX580 (also a Gigabyte Aorus, just like the one in the video). If it was 8GB, maybe I wouldn't've upgraded yet (got an RX 6750 XT a couple of months ago)
Mad to see this recommendation in 2023 I recommend this exact set up a good few years ago as budget system mad that lower end has barely moved in last few years
provided you don't go for x4 lanes 4.0 GPUs such as the RX 6500, maybe even not the 66xx, which is unfortunate - that would require a b550/x570 board with a Zen 2 chip. Something like a used 2070/Ti/Super/3060 might be better but definitely a bit stretching it for 1080p, but granted, I'd argue the 2600x is still a great 1440p CPU for most games and would still take advantage of that GPU power. CPUs simply aren't the bottleneck unless you're going for over 100FPS in a lot of games
@@cldpt What do you mean the new amd cards require 4.0 x4 lanes, im pretty sure thats not the case and they are backwards compatible with old systems no problem, just lose like maybe 5% performance max in games.
@@Bogdan00 its passed all the needed test, in good condition with matched box and serial on it and after the mining craze, what card used are not mined before ? who know if it work, then it work, mining or gaming card are both the same as heavily used anyway
@@YuukiHotaruu I dont think so, there are some tests on yt that show an rtx3090 mined has less performance in gaming than a used for gaming 3090. What really matters is that you are happy with your purchase.
Indeed nice to see you continuing to bring true budget gaming systems on your channel. The Rx 580 is the full on model as well not one of the cheaper prices new ones we are seeing on Amazon now, still a decent card but a cut down version.
I had a ryzen 1600 and rx 570 8 gig since late 2019. Half a year ago i upgraded cpu to the ryzen 5500, and oh god, it improved my experience a lot. rx 570 is still doing great!
This was my exact built for a while and while I have since upgraded to a 1080ti, I am still hanging on to my 2600 given just how well it has held up, not to mention the hell of a card the 580 was
Thanks for the video. It's nice to see that my planned build are on the right direction. The AM4 platform really is a good thing for us poor people. Helps not waste pc components. I got a 3200g a320 8gb ram 512gb hdd and a 1600x900 monitor pre-built pc during the lock down for school and I already upgraded it with another 8gb ram, 120gb ssd for windows and a RX 580 8GB. I'll start my first job this April and this is my plan: a1080p monitor, a used R5 3600, another SSD then new mobo and new ram so that I can pass the original pre-built to my Lil bro.
Don't forget the "50" AMD cards... The 6650 XT and 6750 XT are usually $50 cheaper than the 6700 and 6800 cards and almost match them in benchmarks. I've been eyeing the 6650 XT at $290 on amazon lately and will recommend to anyone building a $900ish PC. A new 580 on amazon is only about $20-50 cheaper. Even on a budget, the price difference for performance doesn't make a whole lot of sense.
Ryzen 3600 and RX580 is what my other half got in 2019. I got a 3600 and 5700XT that I already had. The RX580 8GB is still a great GPU. That was the version to buy and could be had new for around £160 at the time. Mid-range cards are now over £300. :(
I bought a ryzen 5, 2600 in 2019 just before the plandemic and found it to be a very good cpu.. i combined it with a GTX 1050ti 4GB StormX, 3200 (16 x 2) -32GB ddr4 on a Msi mortor B450 mb been a very good combo computer set and still runs perfectly today in 2023 and I feel ill still get more years out of it!! good heads up i want a RX 580 or something more beefy in the future once my budgets gets a bit better thanks for the heads up :D
@@mryellow6918 Yeah, but at least I can use "Saving on electricity" as some sort of self justification for purchasing something I don't really need lmao
I've still got my ex-mining Rx 580 sapphire nitro+ 8gb I bought after the first crypto crash. It's a solid card and when I upgraded to an Rtx 3080 last year my son got an upgrade to his 1030.
This is almost exactly what my first gaming PC was. The only difference was my cpu was a Ryzen 7 2700, and I got it late 2018. I built my current PC late last 2022. Seeing how much it costs to build a decent system like this is amazing to be honest.
@@aboveaveragebayleaf9216 nah, I've been considering upgrading to a 2700 non x for a Minecraft server but I haven't gone around to that yet. that is also the best CPU the prebuilt supports.
@@aboveaveragebayleaf9216 Atleast from what I checked from HP's support site, doesnt seem to be a bios update allows an upgrade to anything newer unfortunately. Probably something with the motherboard, but its all right
I just watched a video recently about CPU stagnation, sure they're getting better and better, but this chips still seems to have a good deal of life left! Would love to see how it performs with a more powerful card.
Good to see Deathloop back in the mix. The game is very heavy on the VRAM, I've seen it creep it's way up to 16GB. It would probably keep going up if I had more. Having said that, I've been testing a RX 550 2GB and made a video on it, and it runs... kind of...
Rockin' this exact combo to this day, I would not feel the need to upgrade the whole setup even now, but it tingles me to move from 1080p 144hz to 1440p 144hz. Nevertheless - still a killer combo for modern day titles.
The video is 8 months old at this point in time, but smart move going with AM4. At some point when the 5800X3D drops in price that it will be an absolute massive performance update. It is sad it took so long for the RX580 to drop back in pre mid 2019 prices again. I bought my RX580 for my old PC in early february of 2019 for 100$. It was an amazing price back then, and made all the difference in the world compared to my dying radeon 7970 at the time on my old FX8350 system. In fact I used it 9 months into my Ryzen 5800X build from December 2020 to August 2021 before I finally got a 6800XT. The Rx580 was such as fine card.
FYI if you want competitive settings for WZ2 balanced preset is a good start, but most players also set a higher POV with 100-110 generally thought of as a sweet spot. This will affect FPS as its more taxing on the GPU, perhaps you can try showing us this next time you do a WZ2 benchmark
Nice job. Not many reviewers show this end of the budget. I've been a budget builder for a long time and one of my daughter's is still using my old RX 570 8 GB card today and it games just fine. She's just upgraded from an old FX6300 to a Ryzen 5500 and it's a big difference. The 570 is still going strong but is going to be her next upgrade.
This was literally my first PC Build back in 2018. I loved it and it performed well at 1080p. I still have my 580 and probably will hold onto it and keep it on my shelf.
ahhh. The good ol r5 2600 and RX580. I have a 480 and although my main pc is far far better. I still love that thing. It's crazy to see it still playing games decently well to this day.
I still use this set up that I cobbled together back in 2020 during all the shortages. I did upgrade the RX480 to an RX 6600, and it runs about twice as good and much cooler and more power efficient than the 480, but the 2600 is still going strong in my system.
Honestly for budget PC gaming I can kind of recommend the Steam Deck as well. Just a $400 piece of hardware and a solid sd card for a few bucks and you can run so many games for such a low amount of money.
I used to have this EXACT setup since 2019. Recently however my poor RX 580's fans completely died for a second time (first was summer of 2022) and I got myself a Ryzen 5 5600X + and RX6600. Long live one of the kings of budget pc parts.
You can play elden ring with that cpu but it doesn’t maintain 60fps during boss fights and some areas. It shows low usage because elden ring doesn’t use many threads. If at all possible id spend a little bit more for the 3600…. Its worth it
i have been following your uploads for some time, I really like your videos, I'm currently playing on an i3-10100 and 1060 3gb version, i can play most of the games no problem, up to 1080p of course, i have been playing on an old syncmaster for the last 5-6 months so i dont really need parts at all :D :D, I have built a pc for my girlfriend with a 2200g overclocked with 2 gb of overclocked ram assinged no gpu at all, there is something really special about playing games on dodgy configurations, theres definetly a stronger bond between you and your rig that way, newer games are released in such bad states it doesnt matter what kind of a pc you have either way! Keep up the good work man! P.S. I really believe CRT is the way to go if you cannot afford a high end pc, I only use it to play games so i got that mental divide between work and playing as a bonus
I have been using nearly the exact build before the whole covid thing happened. I have a 3500x with Rx 580, still gives me 60 fps at nearly all the major titles at medium 1080p. I'm planning on upgrading to a Rx 6700 soon.
I am so happy this video is release! I am starting to restore my free hp pavillion p6610f and want to get modern performance for my first "real" computer with my budget.Thanaks for this awesome video
I agree with your recommendation, running b450,2600x,rx580(8gb),2x 8gb (3200mhz), m.2 500gb boot, 250g,500gb,2tb HDDS, CPU (44c idle) @ stock, GPU (27c idle) @ undervolted, overclocked, custom fan curve, +40% PWR, using a 4:3 75hz monitor, so I lock at 72fps, fantastic performance. PUBG @ max settings runs silky smooth on win11.
Nice. This is almost the same exact setup I have. Got the 2600x on Ebay for $85 and an 8gb RX580 for $90 right before the pandemic started and still using it to play current games like Lost Ark, the Diablo 4 beta, Tekken 7, Street Fighter 5 all with no issues.
G'day Random, My Gaming PC is a R5 1400, 16GB DDR4-3200 & RX580 8GB & it is easily able to play all my games at 1080p which include all the fun adventure game Epic Freebies that I have collected like the TombRaider Collection & this weeks Dying Light Enhanced Edition. The only game that I have seen the 580 not cope with at least a Console like experience is TLoU or as many now call it The Crash of US.
Great video, again! This makes me reassured that -for my needs- changing from my Athlon II X4 640-Radeon RX460 4G, to a Ryzen 3 1200 and RX570 4G will be not bad. AND I can easly upgrade later to a Ryzen 5 2600 or 3600, or even Ryzen 7 1700, or whatever, what my budget will be. :D
That's actually a nice decent setup if you're on a budget, though if your budget can stretch that far, I'd go for a 3rd gen Ryzen (like a 3600) as well as 32GB RAM. When you start multitasking (i.e. streaming at the same time, etc) then 16GB will get consumed quite quickly. In fact, the next build that I make won't even have 32GB RAM. I also note how you've avoided 1st gen Ryzen's, like the Ryzen 5 1600 (which I remember you reviewing on this channel). Why Microsoft thought that the R5 1600 wasn't suitable for Windows 11, I will never know, though if push came to shove, I'd just crowbar W11 on by bypassing the CPU checks.
Great video. Testing hardware combinations that suit lower budgets is a terrific idea. I recently added a GTX 970 to my nephew's old FM2+ system, with an A10 7700K and 16gb RAM. With an extra fan and new disk it works well, despite that CPU. I could see your B450 and the Ryzen being the next cost conscious upgrade.
I find the RX 6650 XT currently the best low budget choice, maybe in combo with a Ryzen 5 4600G which are being sold new for less than 100 bucks in my country. And yes, AM4 all the way.
My first PC build from 2018 that's currently eating dust in my room except that I got an RX590 as GPU. I am so busy with work and taking care of my 11 months old son 🥲. Pretty capable system indeed.
In 2019 I had just about the same combo, B450 and 16GB RAM, BUT it was the first ever PC I was building and I knew nothing about overclocking and safety with those things. I've heard that overclocked RX 580 is basically RX 590 and that overclocked 2600 is basically 2600X - and that's what I got. So from where I was standing, that combo is still the best combo a money can buy for that price. RX 580 and 2600 are THE COMBO to get on a tight budget, just familiarize yourself with safe overclocking for that oh so sweet free boost.
Ahh...the exact build I did moving from an i7-2600K (4.5Ghz all-core OC) + GTX 570 2.5GB EVGA model. I will always be fond of the R5 2600 and RX 580 8GB. They allowed me to enjoy PC gaming for the first time in a way that didn't totally suck from Q1 2020 moving forward. I had that 2600 OC'ed to 4.1Ghz all-core @ 1.31v, and it often scored higher than most stock 2600x/2700x single core scores with max temps around 60-65c. The 580 was a Sapphire Pulse model that I had OC'ed to 1450Mhz core and 2200Mhz mem. Paired with 16GB of RAM @ 3433Mhz, I pushed that system to its absolute limit (well, on air cooling anyways lol). I've since upgraded from the 2600 and RX 580 to the 5600 + 3060 Ti, but I'm still using that B450 Tomahawk. It's reliable as hell, and has fortunately received BIOS updates to support basically all AM4 CPUs out there. As well as fixes for USB devices on Windows (...mostly). I also do have 32GB of RAM now, since 16GB seemed to be almost maxed out with games like GoW (2018) on PC, Dead Space Remake, or various MC mod packs based on Java. I'm sure there are other titles I've played that have definitely pushed the 13-14GB threshold, but I can't remember them off the top of my head. It just sucks that newer/recent games aren't optimized very well so the immediate solution for most people is just to "upgrade" or build a new PC entirely...
Back at the very end of 2018, I built a very similarly configured system, just with a 2600x instead of a 2600, so same CPU, just a slightly higher stock clock. The system still works very well.
The upgrade path to a ryzen 5600/700 later down gives this build some real potential later, especially with how quickly the 5xxx series has been dropping in price with the new ryzen 7xxx series. It's worth mentioning that getting decent ram can help these CPU's a lot, theres a good 10-20% difference going from 2600mhz to 3200mhz , but that almost always has to be set manually in the bios.
Running a 2600x with a 2060!!! Have built many AM4 systems out of cheap parts, these have been the best to go to for about 2 years now. Commenting this in the hopes to depreciate the price of the 3600 series.
I'm glad you reviewed this combo. I have an RX 580 and I need to upgrade my i5 4590 because it's pretty much 100% on most AAA games but I have a very tight budget. And also in dota 2 at ultra, my cpu is 70-100% and my gpu is just chillin and the frame rate drops to mid 40's during team fights.
Am4 will probably be your friend. It has some pretty cheap motherboard cpu combos, but with a solid upgrade path. If its a decent mobo you could go all the way up to a 5800x3d when they get cheaper used.
@@aboveaveragebayleaf9216 I have an i7 4790k and ive just got an RTX 2070 fairly cheap, im not sure where to go from here with my budget also being tight, got my eye on a strix b450-f mobo, was looking at the ryzen 2700x but apparently it would be more of a sidestep than upgrade, but would better support the 2070, im kinda lost with AMD now lol.
@DJ LECORE yeah the 2nd gen ryzen didn't really have that bump in IPC yet. Idk what the local used market is like around you, but I'd keep on the lookout for a 3000 series, or 5000 series ryzen used. I've seen ryzen 5 3600x going for $75 locally.
Oh wow, I just brought a 2nd hand budget PC with this exact same set up Ryzen 5 3600 with RX 580, 16GB ram with SSD and a really high quality case for 250 bucks. it plays most of the recent release games on high setting with little problem.
Rocking that same set up. I just updated to a RX 580 ARMOR 8G OC, replacing my problem prone Sapphire Nitro+ 470 OC. It had a custom BIOS that that could get temperamental.
I have an 8GB RX 580 paired with a Ryzen 5 3600x and its such a beast. I play most of my games in 1440p but i tend to lower it to 1080p in some games for better performance.
i got a 5600G, and msi red dragon 580 8gb, plus a asus gaming board from cex for just £160, i spent around another £100 for ram, an ssd, and psu, so for £260 I got a 1080p MAX SETTINGS at 60fps pretty much on every game, so its really easy, mainly due to the glut of cheaper AMD 5 series cards on the market, even now, 6 months later, so it really is a great scenario for budget gamers, I have seen 580 cards for as low as £65.
Never thought of and considered this combo. I have a i7-2600 (old optiplex) and a GTX 1070, so a worse CPU but slightly better GPU then the one in this scenario. And wow do your FPS numbers look much, much better then mine do. While the "stick a gpu into an optiplex" thing is still pretty decent, people really need to keep in mind which CPU they're getting when they make these budget builds.
wow. i bought a r5 3600 in september and an rx580 8gb in november to upgrade my i5 7400 and gtx 1050 2gb... Its a great combo, forza horizon 5 even runs with 60-ish fps on 1440p
Totally agree with this vid. I just built a new gaming rig for my daughter: Ryzen 5 4500 CPU, B450 M/B, RX580 8GB GPU, 16GB 3200 RAM, 1TB NVME. Re-used case, PSU, and wifi card. Mix of new and second-hand, cost less than UK£300. Really pleased with the result.
My old pc motherboard had the exact same parts and is in use as my sisters sons gaming pc at some point some upgrades might be needed but so far he is happy with it .
The 1600 AF, (if you could get it for $85-$100) and 2600($120) were selling like hot cakes paired with the venerable RX 580$(100). For a tiny bit more around $140, the 3600 was a step up that time.
I love these videos, instead of the usual raw benchmark videos based on unrealistic builds. Now, being able to run every new game is great, but not strictly necessary to enjoy a gaming experience. You can build a cheap second hand gaming PC in a "consolized" manner, and still be able to play thousands of games, just not the latest and more demanding ones. Why there's people willing to buy a second hand PS3 or PS4, when they can't play PS5 games on them, but they refuse to get a PC with similar limitations? Most people expect a PC to be able to "run everything", it's a bias we need to fight against.
I found a certified Ebay-refurbished PC for a friend for exactly $400 (USD) that contained a Ryzen 5 2600, 16GB 3200MHz RAM, an RTX 2060 (I believe it was a GIGABYTE dual-fan model), a 512GB SSD and a 650-watt Gold-rated EVGA power-supply. Came with a 1-year warranty and everything! So far it's been playing every game they've thrown at it -they've officially been converted from consoles lol. I bet you could find some similar value whole-systems for future videos under the official Ebay-refurbished umbrella ;)
My first AMD CPU, R5 2600..Upgraded from Core i5 3570K in 2019..I paired it with RTX 2060 Super in 2020 before the GPU Price sky-rocketing, still rocks until now 👍
had this combo for quite a while and it works. it can drive 2 displays etc... but i have literally no idea what mobo i had or anything like that because i started being interested in that stuff when i got my new pc. worked fine for me for quite a while, pretty nice 1080p rig
It’s actually ridiculous how this is literally my exact cpu + GPU on my first build. Upgraded to the R5 5600x and an RX 6700 XT just recently, but that initial combo had me set for 3 years at a great starting point.
A 3600/5600 paired with a 5700 XT would make an excellent budget 1440p build
That would be a fun video to see
depending what you wanna play
i would stick with 1080p and enjoy higher framerate and settings but yea it is a good value build right now.
or 1080p/144hz gaming
That's my exact configuration 😂👌🏻
The RX 580 8GB was such a bargain when released. It can still play pretty much every game. Thanks for the likes, I have a benchmark channel if you want to check it out!
Yeah it was a great deal, and used prices means it is again
I got muy 570 8gb and it's rock solid, Even considering my cpu is not the Best to pair these days
@@isaacgutierrez1607 what cpu you have got?
@@RandomGaminginHD Why did you put RX 580 in it? At this price point, you would easily hunt down AIB 3070 8GB
@@HanSolo__?
The RX 580 is under £80 in the UK.
What 3070 are you buying for that?
It's quite nice that the old RX580 is still hanging on as the medium settings standard. Built a HoloISO (Steam Deck OS) system with this GPU. Absolutely solid workhorse
don't forget rx 590 too which beats by a lot the 580 in most titles
I used to have an RX 580 8gb before it kicked the bucket months after I bought it. It does fairly well in most titles and the 8gb of VRAM gives it enough headway in modern titles. Great video as usual!
what happened to it if you dont mind saying?
@@Kaguyaaa_x_x It began to hard crash with pixels and stripes all over the screen when I played games and I could never figure out the cause. I eventually sold it and bought a better card.
@@GrabASpriteB So you sold your garbage to some other sucker instead of cashing in the warranty for a free replacement?
GPU sudden death is the worst... been there once with a R9 270x.
@@stevethepocket I'm pretty sure he sold it as it is lol, probably already used, the guy he sold to knew what he was buying.
Interestingly I also thought my first upgrade from the Ryzen 5 2600 & rx580 8 gig combo would be the GPU, but funnily enough I got CPU bottlenecked in the games I wanted to play first, the game that stood out to me was God Of War targetting 1080p @ 60fps.
Edit-Upgrading to the R5 3600 solved most of my issues, thought I'd point this out since it's the opposite experience to the TBF solid advice you have given. The R5 3600 is a substantial upgrade & 100% worth considering.
if you want more fps ALWAYS upgrade cpu first then ram speeds then last upgrade gpu only upgrade gpu when ur at the fastest ram speed ur platform can handle and ur at the fastest cpu cap
@@CHICKENmcNUGGIESMydude ALWAYS? That's bad advice man. It's finding out what the bottleneck actually is.
So Rx 580 + R5 3600 in a B450 motherboard = no bottleneck ?
and if u don't mind, what PSU do u recommend ?
(I'm new and i'm just targettting 1080p & 60fps)
Thanks in advance :)
@@Aladdin-Drj Well there were still frame drops, but those are GPU bound and it wasn't too bad, but i have a freesync monitor so it was still very playable. RX580 doesn't get support any more, just a head up. Just check some reviews, I have a 550watt corsair white certified, and it's been just fine for 6+years. I'd recommend something from a reputable brand like corsair and 600watt+ bronze certified. FYI I have a dirt cheap a320 board got it for £29.00 brand new with delivery all those years ago :-)
I used to run this combination up until 2021... then got an rtx 3080 gaming laptop. RX580 is still super strong for 1080p in my opinion especially with FSR.
Yeah for sure, the 3080 laptop is a very nice upgrade!
@@RandomGaminginHD isnt 3080 in a laptop trash tho i hear mobile processors and gpus suck
@@SharkButtholio I mean, compared to his old setup it's not really that bad
@@SharkButtholio laptop gaming > pc gaming. You can go and game everywhere, even in the go. And these new laptops have almost the same performance like PCs
@@_Drekavac_lol thats just uninformed & not correct.
a 80Watt 3080 cannot compare to a 350Watt one lol
That combo is really impressive. It's still viable today. If course the GPU could be better but that little 580 is great
The amount of value I'm getting out of my 1600x and rx580 8gb is crazy, 5 years old by now, heading towards 6.
I know I'm too late for this one ..5 years late apparently
I'm looking to build a PC with this combo can you tell how it's treating you with the new titles ?
@@Mohamed.B.Hbuy r5 3600
This is the combo I started out on in 2020 except with a R5 3600. Very capable for a ton of games and the 580 was able to do very well in 1080p gaming.
The one I had was given to me, I gave it to someone else and when they upgraded it went to another buddies PC. It’s been in like 4 of our systems and my friend still games on it today!
There is a huge difference with the RX580 on a 3600 than a 2600.
@@wayland7150 I wouldn’t say it’s huge but there is a difference. With how cheap you can get a 3600 now account I think that is a better choice imo. Either one would make a solid starter though
That was my combo too, only I had a 4GB RX580 (also a Gigabyte Aorus, just like the one in the video). If it was 8GB, maybe I wouldn't've upgraded yet (got an RX 6750 XT a couple of months ago)
@@wayland7150 do you mean, the R5 3600 works better with Rx580 than R5 2600 ?
(I know I’m too late 😅)
What about bottleneck issues ?!
This is my exact setup that I got in 2020 and still use today. I have a 2600x instead due to a really nice Microcenter deal.
Yes, in Asia RX 550-580 is top end gpu..many that only have pity gt..
Mad to see this recommendation in 2023 I recommend this exact set up a good few years ago as budget system mad that lower end has barely moved in last few years
Still a lot of room to drop-in upgrade later on with this configuration!
Yeah exactly
provided you don't go for x4 lanes 4.0 GPUs such as the RX 6500, maybe even not the 66xx, which is unfortunate - that would require a b550/x570 board with a Zen 2 chip. Something like a used 2070/Ti/Super/3060 might be better but definitely a bit stretching it for 1080p, but granted, I'd argue the 2600x is still a great 1440p CPU for most games and would still take advantage of that GPU power. CPUs simply aren't the bottleneck unless you're going for over 100FPS in a lot of games
@@cldpt What might be the highest GPU for a 2600 without the CPU bottlenecking too much? Assuming 1440p with at least 60fps on AAA titles.
@@amilyester somewhere around a 6700XT / 3060Ti, i reckon.
@@cldpt What do you mean the new amd cards require 4.0 x4 lanes, im pretty sure thats not the case and they are backwards compatible with old systems no problem, just lose like maybe 5% performance max in games.
Solid combo.
Alternately, 12100F and RX6600 is a killer combo sourced on sale (99 for cpu, 199 for gpu)
Just scored a deal of i7 10700 and 5700xt for just 30 extra 😂
Last owner just didn't want to deal with selling stuff
@@YuukiHotaruu heavily mined 5700xt
@@Bogdan00 its passed all the needed test, in good condition with matched box and serial on it
and after the mining craze, what card used are not mined before ? who know
if it work, then it work, mining or gaming card are both the same as heavily used anyway
@@YuukiHotaruu I dont think so, there are some tests on yt that show an rtx3090 mined has less performance in gaming than a used for gaming 3090. What really matters is that you are happy with your purchase.
@@Bogdan00 and i too want to watch the yt video that claim rtx 3090 have performance degradation in gaming after it being used heavily
Indeed nice to see you continuing to bring true budget gaming systems on your channel. The Rx 580 is the full on model as well not one of the cheaper prices new ones we are seeing on Amazon now, still a decent card but a cut down version.
I had a ryzen 1600 and rx 570 8 gig since late 2019. Half a year ago i upgraded cpu to the ryzen 5500, and oh god, it improved my experience a lot. rx 570 is still doing great!
This was my exact built for a while and while I have since upgraded to a 1080ti, I am still hanging on to my 2600 given just how well it has held up, not to mention the hell of a card the 580 was
Thanks for the video. It's nice to see that my planned build are on the right direction. The AM4 platform really is a good thing for us poor people. Helps not waste pc components.
I got a 3200g a320 8gb ram 512gb hdd and a 1600x900 monitor pre-built pc during the lock down for school and I already upgraded it with another 8gb ram, 120gb ssd for windows and a RX 580 8GB.
I'll start my first job this April and this is my plan: a1080p monitor, a used R5 3600, another SSD then new mobo and new ram so that I can pass the original pre-built to my Lil bro.
Don't forget the "50" AMD cards... The 6650 XT and 6750 XT are usually $50 cheaper than the 6700 and 6800 cards and almost match them in benchmarks. I've been eyeing the 6650 XT at $290 on amazon lately and will recommend to anyone building a $900ish PC. A new 580 on amazon is only about $20-50 cheaper. Even on a budget, the price difference for performance doesn't make a whole lot of sense.
yea no point buying rx 580 new, u should be only buying it used
Thank you so much for the video. Grabbing a used 2600x for 45 CAD for my ultra budget build
Ryzen 3600 and RX580 is what my other half got in 2019. I got a 3600 and 5700XT that I already had. The RX580 8GB is still a great GPU. That was the version to buy and could be had new for around £160 at the time. Mid-range cards are now over £300. :(
I bought a ryzen 5, 2600 in 2019 just before the plandemic and found it to be a very good cpu.. i combined it with a GTX 1050ti 4GB StormX, 3200 (16 x 2) -32GB ddr4 on a Msi mortor B450 mb been a very good combo computer set and still runs perfectly today in 2023 and I feel ill still get more years out of it!! good heads up i want a RX 580 or something more beefy in the future once my budgets gets a bit better thanks for the heads up :D
Pro tip: Plandemic makes you sound like an idiot. Cheers!
The RX 580 is such a great card. The only reason I changed it to an RX 6600 is to save on power consumption.
The RX 6600 is twice as fast lol
@@captainkirk3000 Yes it is and it uses a lot less power.
@@hulahulahup not really
@@hulahulahup you'll see returns somewhere within the next 30-50 years
@@mryellow6918 Yeah, but at least I can use "Saving on electricity" as some sort of self justification for purchasing something I don't really need lmao
I've still got my ex-mining Rx 580 sapphire nitro+ 8gb I bought after the first crypto crash. It's a solid card and when I upgraded to an Rtx 3080 last year my son got an upgrade to his 1030.
This is almost exactly what my first gaming PC was. The only difference was my cpu was a Ryzen 7 2700, and I got it late 2018. I built my current PC late last 2022. Seeing how much it costs to build a decent system like this is amazing to be honest.
Now having the gpu under the rain was fun to watch. Good combo tho. well done.
this is very similar to the 2400g and 5804gb i used to run in a prebuilt. glad to see that its still holding up, the 580 is a beast
Cpu is the weak part of the prebuilt.
Did you end up upgrading that cpu?
@@aboveaveragebayleaf9216 nah, I've been considering upgrading to a 2700 non x for a Minecraft server but I haven't gone around to that yet. that is also the best CPU the prebuilt supports.
@@tailsman2000 you are absolutely sure a bios update wouldn't let it go to a newer gen?
@@aboveaveragebayleaf9216 Atleast from what I checked from HP's support site, doesnt seem to be a bios update allows an upgrade to anything newer unfortunately. Probably something with the motherboard, but its all right
Ahhh darn! Almost matches my current setup, a ryzen 5 1600 and rx580 at 1080p it's a great machine
I just watched a video recently about CPU stagnation, sure they're getting better and better, but this chips still seems to have a good deal of life left! Would love to see how it performs with a more powerful card.
Im using this build as my main PC since 2020 and Im still pretty happy with it :)
Good to see Deathloop back in the mix. The game is very heavy on the VRAM, I've seen it creep it's way up to 16GB. It would probably keep going up if I had more.
Having said that, I've been testing a RX 550 2GB and made a video on it, and it runs... kind of...
3600 or 5600 /w 6700xt is prolly a good spot with a lot of recent games hitting 12gb vram.
Rockin' this exact combo to this day, I would not feel the need to upgrade the whole setup even now, but it tingles me to move from 1080p 144hz to 1440p 144hz. Nevertheless - still a killer combo for modern day titles.
yea 1440p 144hz will be my next upgrade aswell, rocking a 3600 and a 1070ti, lets see how well they manage.
Built my pc over 3 years ago with a r5 2600 and rx 590 and i can run anything i want quite Highley iswell
The video is 8 months old at this point in time, but smart move going with AM4. At some point when the 5800X3D drops in price that it will be an absolute massive performance update.
It is sad it took so long for the RX580 to drop back in pre mid 2019 prices again. I bought my RX580 for my old PC in early february of 2019 for 100$. It was an amazing price back then, and made all the difference in the world compared to my dying radeon 7970 at the time on my old FX8350 system.
In fact I used it 9 months into my Ryzen 5800X build from December 2020 to August 2021 before I finally got a 6800XT. The Rx580 was such as fine card.
your right but rx 580 isnt a good gpu anymore cause of driver updates.
this man is showing off a gpu in the rain ._.
FYI if you want competitive settings for WZ2 balanced preset is a good start, but most players also set a higher POV with 100-110 generally thought of as a sweet spot. This will affect FPS as its more taxing on the GPU, perhaps you can try showing us this next time you do a WZ2 benchmark
Nice job. Not many reviewers show this end of the budget. I've been a budget builder for a long time and one of my daughter's is still using my old RX 570 8 GB card today and it games just fine. She's just upgraded from an old FX6300 to a Ryzen 5500 and it's a big difference. The 570 is still going strong but is going to be her next upgrade.
The droplets in the intro really twig my tech dampness paranoia.
This was literally my first PC Build back in 2018. I loved it and it performed well at 1080p. I still have my 580 and probably will hold onto it and keep it on my shelf.
What do u have now?
@@olsaaan Now I have a 4080 mixed with a 5800X3D.
Same.
This is what exactly I just built my latest budget desktop rig and I didn't know this combo was that popular! Happy gaming, all.
19 seconds after release
Very quick 😁
wow, congratulations ...
19 minutes after release
Great sucess
Your parrents must be proud
This was my exact same setup before I upgraded my PC. It's a great combo if you play on 1080p and don't mind playing at med settings.
had this combo with a b450 until december, when i switched to Ryzen 5 5600g, 32gb ram, and swapped rx580 for a rx6700xt last month
ahhh. The good ol r5 2600 and RX580. I have a 480 and although my main pc is far far better. I still love that thing. It's crazy to see it still playing games decently well to this day.
Yeah it’s holding up way better than I thought it would
I still use this set up that I cobbled together back in 2020 during all the shortages. I did upgrade the RX480 to an RX 6600, and it runs about twice as good and much cooler and more power efficient than the 480, but the 2600 is still going strong in my system.
Very nice. Ive definitely seen more 3600, and 5600 cpus hitting the used market for good prices though.
Honestly for budget PC gaming I can kind of recommend the Steam Deck as well. Just a $400 piece of hardware and a solid sd card for a few bucks and you can run so many games for such a low amount of money.
I used to have this EXACT setup since 2019. Recently however my poor RX 580's fans completely died for a second time (first was summer of 2022) and I got myself a Ryzen 5 5600X + and RX6600. Long live one of the kings of budget pc parts.
I saw yesterday an AMD 5 3600 cpu going on for 60 euros on used market. It was sold in a matter of 2 hours :)
You can play elden ring with that cpu but it doesn’t maintain 60fps during boss fights and some areas. It shows low usage because elden ring doesn’t use many threads.
If at all possible id spend a little bit more for the 3600…. Its worth it
i have been following your uploads for some time, I really like your videos, I'm currently playing on an i3-10100 and 1060 3gb version, i can play most of the games no problem, up to 1080p of course, i have been playing on an old syncmaster for the last 5-6 months so i dont really need parts at all :D :D, I have built a pc for my girlfriend with a 2200g overclocked with 2 gb of overclocked ram assinged no gpu at all, there is something really special about playing games on dodgy configurations, theres definetly a stronger bond between you and your rig that way, newer games are released in such bad states it doesnt matter what kind of a pc you have either way! Keep up the good work man! P.S. I really believe CRT is the way to go if you cannot afford a high end pc, I only use it to play games so i got that mental divide between work and playing as a bonus
I have been using nearly the exact build before the whole covid thing happened.
I have a 3500x with Rx 580, still gives me 60 fps at nearly all the major titles at medium 1080p.
I'm planning on upgrading to a Rx 6700 soon.
I am so happy this video is release! I am starting to restore my free hp pavillion p6610f and want to get modern performance for my first "real" computer with my budget.Thanaks for this awesome video
I agree with your recommendation, running b450,2600x,rx580(8gb),2x 8gb (3200mhz), m.2 500gb boot, 250g,500gb,2tb HDDS, CPU (44c idle) @ stock, GPU (27c idle) @ undervolted, overclocked, custom fan curve, +40% PWR, using a 4:3 75hz monitor, so I lock at 72fps, fantastic performance. PUBG @ max settings runs silky smooth on win11.
Nice. This is almost the same exact setup I have. Got the 2600x on Ebay for $85 and an 8gb RX580 for $90 right before the pandemic started and still using it to play current games like Lost Ark, the Diablo 4 beta, Tekken 7, Street Fighter 5 all with no issues.
My youngest son has a R5 1600af and a RX 590. A similar pairing and decidedly astonishing performance for the cost.
G'day Random,
My Gaming PC is a R5 1400, 16GB DDR4-3200 & RX580 8GB & it is easily able to play all my games at 1080p which include all the fun adventure game Epic Freebies that I have collected like the TombRaider Collection & this weeks Dying Light Enhanced Edition.
The only game that I have seen the 580 not cope with at least a Console like experience is TLoU or as many now call it The Crash of US.
Im been using Ryzen 5 1600 and RX 480 8GB since 2017 and still works just fine for me
Great video, again!
This makes me reassured that -for my needs- changing from my Athlon II X4 640-Radeon RX460 4G, to a Ryzen 3 1200 and RX570 4G will be not bad. AND I can easly upgrade later to a Ryzen 5 2600 or 3600, or even Ryzen 7 1700, or whatever, what my budget will be. :D
I've had this EXACT SAME configuration for about 2 years now. I can attest, it works great.
That's actually a nice decent setup if you're on a budget, though if your budget can stretch that far, I'd go for a 3rd gen Ryzen (like a 3600) as well as 32GB RAM. When you start multitasking (i.e. streaming at the same time, etc) then 16GB will get consumed quite quickly. In fact, the next build that I make won't even have 32GB RAM.
I also note how you've avoided 1st gen Ryzen's, like the Ryzen 5 1600 (which I remember you reviewing on this channel). Why Microsoft thought that the R5 1600 wasn't suitable for Windows 11, I will never know, though if push came to shove, I'd just crowbar W11 on by bypassing the CPU checks.
First generation Ryzen wasn't suitable for Windows 11 because firs gen Ryzen doesn't support MBEC (Mode Based Execution Control) unlike Ryzen 2 on up.
Great video. Testing hardware combinations that suit lower budgets is a terrific idea. I recently added a GTX 970 to my nephew's old FM2+ system, with an A10 7700K and 16gb RAM. With an extra fan and new disk it works well, despite that CPU. I could see your B450 and the Ryzen being the next cost conscious upgrade.
Basically my first upgrade after my FX system. R5 2600, 8gb RX 580, and a strix B350 absolutely loved it.
I find the RX 6650 XT currently the best low budget choice, maybe in combo with a Ryzen 5 4600G which are being sold new for less than 100 bucks in my country. And yes, AM4 all the way.
2:55, I lost it when the grenade bounced off of his head lmao
My first PC build from 2018 that's currently eating dust in my room except that I got an RX590 as GPU. I am so busy with work and taking care of my 11 months old son 🥲. Pretty capable system indeed.
I just gave away my old system with these parts to my great nephew last year. It's great to hear that it is still capable.
i'm using a 2600 and a 5500xt. my first build and it's doing just fine! also, my 2600 is a beast in overclocking. 4.3ghz with an undervolt!
Nice build, also this would make for a great Linux system with very high out-of-the-box compatability.
my first build last march 2020! still able to play any game I want today!
My daughters have similar systems. Inexpensive and work well for the games they play. A 1600 AF or 2600 is also enough to pair with a 5700 XT as well.
In 2019 I had just about the same combo, B450 and 16GB RAM, BUT it was the first ever PC I was building and I knew nothing about overclocking and safety with those things. I've heard that overclocked RX 580 is basically RX 590 and that overclocked 2600 is basically 2600X - and that's what I got. So from where I was standing, that combo is still the best combo a money can buy for that price. RX 580 and 2600 are THE COMBO to get on a tight budget, just familiarize yourself with safe overclocking for that oh so sweet free boost.
Ahh...the exact build I did moving from an i7-2600K (4.5Ghz all-core OC) + GTX 570 2.5GB EVGA model. I will always be fond of the R5 2600 and RX 580 8GB. They allowed me to enjoy PC gaming for the first time in a way that didn't totally suck from Q1 2020 moving forward. I had that 2600 OC'ed to 4.1Ghz all-core @ 1.31v, and it often scored higher than most stock 2600x/2700x single core scores with max temps around 60-65c. The 580 was a Sapphire Pulse model that I had OC'ed to 1450Mhz core and 2200Mhz mem. Paired with 16GB of RAM @ 3433Mhz, I pushed that system to its absolute limit (well, on air cooling anyways lol). I've since upgraded from the 2600 and RX 580 to the 5600 + 3060 Ti, but I'm still using that B450 Tomahawk. It's reliable as hell, and has fortunately received BIOS updates to support basically all AM4 CPUs out there. As well as fixes for USB devices on Windows (...mostly). I also do have 32GB of RAM now, since 16GB seemed to be almost maxed out with games like GoW (2018) on PC, Dead Space Remake, or various MC mod packs based on Java. I'm sure there are other titles I've played that have definitely pushed the 13-14GB threshold, but I can't remember them off the top of my head. It just sucks that newer/recent games aren't optimized very well so the immediate solution for most people is just to "upgrade" or build a new PC entirely...
Back at the very end of 2018, I built a very similarly configured system, just with a 2600x instead of a 2600, so same CPU, just a slightly higher stock clock. The system still works very well.
The upgrade path to a ryzen 5600/700 later down gives this build some real potential later, especially with how quickly the 5xxx series has been dropping in price with the new ryzen 7xxx series.
It's worth mentioning that getting decent ram can help these CPU's a lot, theres a good 10-20% difference going from 2600mhz to 3200mhz , but that almost always has to be set manually in the bios.
Running a 2600x with a 2060!!! Have built many AM4 systems out of cheap parts, these have been the best to go to for about 2 years now.
Commenting this in the hopes to depreciate the price of the 3600 series.
Still rocking my R5 2600 and GTX 1660 since 2020 and still see no need for upgrade. Got the CPU for so cheap too, which makes me even happier.
I'm glad you reviewed this combo. I have an RX 580 and I need to upgrade my i5 4590 because it's pretty much 100% on most AAA games but I have a very tight budget. And also in dota 2 at ultra, my cpu is 70-100% and my gpu is just chillin and the frame rate drops to mid 40's during team fights.
Am4 will probably be your friend. It has some pretty cheap motherboard cpu combos, but with a solid upgrade path. If its a decent mobo you could go all the way up to a 5800x3d when they get cheaper used.
@@aboveaveragebayleaf9216 I have an i7 4790k and ive just got an RTX 2070 fairly cheap, im not sure where to go from here with my budget also being tight, got my eye on a strix b450-f mobo, was looking at the ryzen 2700x but apparently it would be more of a sidestep than upgrade, but would better support the 2070, im kinda lost with AMD now lol.
@DJ LECORE yeah the 2nd gen ryzen didn't really have that bump in IPC yet. Idk what the local used market is like around you, but I'd keep on the lookout for a 3000 series, or 5000 series ryzen used. I've seen ryzen 5 3600x going for $75 locally.
@@aboveaveragebayleaf9216 3600x in the UK ive seen is around £100
yes sir you nailed it. am4 is amazing . all sorts of am4 can upgrade to ryzen 5000 including B350. its a win win wnin
That UK weather raining onto the cpu and gpu 🥲
Yeah risky filming outside today haha
Oh wow, I just brought a 2nd hand budget PC with this exact same set up Ryzen 5 3600 with RX 580, 16GB ram with SSD and a really high quality case for 250 bucks. it plays most of the recent release games on high setting with little problem.
Rocking that same set up. I just updated to a RX 580 ARMOR 8G OC, replacing my problem prone Sapphire Nitro+ 470 OC. It had a custom BIOS that that could get temperamental.
Really glad to see people still vying for "budget" oriented builds nowadays, considering the ridiculous pricing of newer hardware.
I have a AMD 3600 with 16 gigs of ram and a RX 580 8 gig vid card and I love it!
I use 5500 + 5700xt right now in my new itx build and it's definitely insane bang for your buck no compromise 💯😤
I have an 8GB RX 580 paired with a Ryzen 5 3600x and its such a beast. I play most of my games in 1440p but i tend to lower it to 1080p in some games for better performance.
i got a 5600G, and msi red dragon 580 8gb, plus a asus gaming board from cex for just £160, i spent around another £100 for ram, an ssd, and psu, so for £260 I got a 1080p MAX SETTINGS at 60fps pretty much on every game, so its really easy, mainly due to the glut of cheaper AMD 5 series cards on the market, even now, 6 months later, so it really is a great scenario for budget gamers, I have seen 580 cards for as low as £65.
Never thought of and considered this combo. I have a i7-2600 (old optiplex) and a GTX 1070, so a worse CPU but slightly better GPU then the one in this scenario.
And wow do your FPS numbers look much, much better then mine do. While the "stick a gpu into an optiplex" thing is still pretty decent, people really need to keep in mind which CPU they're getting when they make these budget builds.
wow. i bought a r5 3600 in september and an rx580 8gb in november to upgrade my i5 7400 and gtx 1050 2gb...
Its a great combo, forza horizon 5 even runs with 60-ish fps on 1440p
Totally agree with this vid. I just built a new gaming rig for my daughter: Ryzen 5 4500 CPU, B450 M/B, RX580 8GB GPU, 16GB 3200 RAM, 1TB NVME. Re-used case, PSU, and wifi card. Mix of new and second-hand, cost less than UK£300. Really pleased with the result.
Had this combo from 2018 til a couple weeks ago. I game on 1440p so it started to do not so great. But it was solid for the almost 5 years I had it.
YES. Thats the exact spec im going for with my brother's build!
My old pc motherboard had the exact same parts and is in use as my sisters sons gaming pc at some point some upgrades might be needed but so far he is happy with it .
The 1600 AF, (if you could get it for $85-$100) and 2600($120) were selling like hot cakes paired with the venerable RX 580$(100). For a tiny bit more around $140, the 3600 was a step up that time.
I love these videos, instead of the usual raw benchmark videos based on unrealistic builds. Now, being able to run every new game is great, but not strictly necessary to enjoy a gaming experience. You can build a cheap second hand gaming PC in a "consolized" manner, and still be able to play thousands of games, just not the latest and more demanding ones. Why there's people willing to buy a second hand PS3 or PS4, when they can't play PS5 games on them, but they refuse to get a PC with similar limitations? Most people expect a PC to be able to "run everything", it's a bias we need to fight against.
I bought my RX 580 8GB in 2018 and I still use it at 1080p. With an Intel i5 8600 and 16GB RAM.
I've got a RTX 2060 Super & Ryzen 2700X combo and it feels amazing! Zen+ is still more than enough.
I found a certified Ebay-refurbished PC for a friend for exactly $400 (USD) that contained a Ryzen 5 2600, 16GB 3200MHz RAM, an RTX 2060 (I believe it was a GIGABYTE dual-fan model), a 512GB SSD and a 650-watt Gold-rated EVGA power-supply. Came with a 1-year warranty and everything!
So far it's been playing every game they've thrown at it -they've officially been converted from consoles lol. I bet you could find some similar value whole-systems for future videos under the official Ebay-refurbished umbrella ;)
My first AMD CPU, R5 2600..Upgraded from Core i5 3570K in 2019..I paired it with RTX 2060 Super in 2020 before the GPU Price sky-rocketing, still rocks until now 👍
had this combo for quite a while and it works.
it can drive 2 displays etc... but i have literally no idea what mobo i had or anything like that because i started being interested in that stuff when i got my new pc.
worked fine for me for quite a while, pretty nice 1080p rig