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Home Machine Shop Tool Making - Machining A Set Of Vintage Style Rope Knurls
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- Опубліковано 19 вер 2015
- Machining A Set Of Vintage Style Rope Knurls, by Clickspring
In this video I make a set of classic rope knurling wheels, to put some ornamental rope knurl patterns on some of my future projects. There's plenty of lathe and mill work, as well as a bit of hand finishing with a fine cut file.
This is the main video in a series of 3, that will relate to the subject of creating these beautiful rope knurl patterns. The other 2 videos in this series are:
Spare Parts #5 - Making A Bump Style Knurling Tool Holder: • Spare Parts #5 - Makin...
Spare Parts #4 - Making, Hardening And Tempering A Form Tool For The Lathe: • Spare Parts #4 - Makin...
Free plans for the double angled cutter, and form tool:
www.clickspring...
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Abbreviated Transcript:
00:31 The rope pattern is formed by a knurling wheel that looks like this, that has a number of fine teeth around its perimeter. Now to form those teeth, I'm going to use an additional cutter that looks like this.
00:44 Each tooth on this cutter has a 90 degree V profile, and there are 4 teeth milled around a central axis. There's relief at the back of each tooth, and the cutting rake angle will be generated by milling past the tool centerline. I'll be using some of this EN8 steel to make both the cutter and the knurl.
02:43 After finding the edge of the work, I positioned this end mill, the correct distance past the centerline, and then set about milling the gaps between the teeth. For this part of the job I'm using the simple indexing plate of the dividing head, thats just behind the chuck.
03:32 For the cutter to work correctly, the back side of each tooth needs to be relieved, so I'll be removing this little corner of metal here on each tooth, and shaping it to blend with the back surface.
04:20 But I thought it might be worth showing what happens to the steel if nothing is done to protect it while its heated, so I've wrapped the working end of the cutter as usual, but I've left the chucking end uncoated, and exposed to the torch flame. With nothing to stop the oxidation, the unprotected end has formed a thick black scale, while the protected end is mostly free from scale, and looking quite bright.
05:39 Now you'll have noticed that the knurl teeth are cut on an angle to the body of the knurl, which means that the knurl blanks need to somehow be securely presented at an angle to the cutter. I could have simply cut them while they were still attached to the parent stock, but I figured since I was making a few of them, a dedicated holder would be bit more efficient, and I can keep it for when I make more in the future. So I made this arbor to hold them on the mill.
07:47 Back onto the mill, the work was again secured in the dividing head, and then tilted to an angle of 30 degrees. I took some time to cutter was carefully positioned against the work, to make sure it was centered on the blank, and then the teeth were cut into the knurl.
08:19 For this particular knurl I indexed for 40 teeth, which was simply one turn of the handwheel on the dividing head, for each cut.
08:56 With that first one complete, I used a few different angles, as well as index counts, to make the full set of 5 knurls, which will give me a good range of different rope knurl patterns. Each of those knurls was quench hardened and then tempered.
09:41 Bump style knurling tools generate an enormous side force on the work, so tailstock support definitely helps. And even with this support, the work still deflects quite a lot as the pattern is formed.
10:24 Now I didn't make any effort to calculate the correct diameter to avoid double tracking, in fact I was surprised to find that it wasn't really necessary.
References:
Frank Ford (Luthier/Machinist)
www.frets.com/H...
Machining A Set Of Vintage Style Rope Knurls, by Clickspring
I'm convinced that Chris could make a 10 minute long video about changing a light bulb, and it would be one of mankind's greatest achievements.
Feurst, I got the laydda, ann I set it ahp in the ceynta of the reum, under the fixcha.
This is the best comment I have ever seen about an presenter on UA-cam.
It would involve a super glue arbor.
I'll sign the petition
He would add a knurled ring to the bulb, to make it beautiful and satisfying to screw in.
If all UA-cam videos were of this quality, I wouldn't get anything done.
Nobody would.
These rope knurls are beautiful.
Wait... did he just make a tool so that he could make a tool so he could make a part for a thing he is making? 😳🤯
Yes. Yes he did. And don't forget he made the profile tools as well.
What a mad man... I like that
Radicaly DIY
Really makes you realise just how many tools, to make the tools, to make the tools, cycles that we're in by now.
Even just counting the last three centuries would be insane. Every gadget, every device, every single mechanism made & all the myriad tools, going back in pseudo-generations to their extreme ancestors.
Think of something as extraordinary as the very first screw...
Yes
It appears that once again the algorithm has sent me down hours of distraction perfectly. I watched one video. Then another. And another. And another. Hours later, I realized that I hadn't moved and wasn't even mad. This is amazing stuff.
I'm still watching!!! What sorcery is this? I love it. Makes me wish I lived nearby just to apprentice.
@@MarkLitchfield It could be argued that this method is a means of leveraging the apprenticeship training methods. By the use of videos a student can learn more about the whole project and then concentrate on learning the individual components that make up the whole. You can also focus in on important features in a safe manner and up far closer than in real life.
Thanks Frank. Holding the part with the wire while heating is the trick I got from this video!!
why is it so satisfying seeing metal worked like this on a mill ? :D .. insane part is .. that this is just "test" pieces .. wth :D the skill required is insane :D
FANTASTIC A TOOL TO MAKE A TOOL TO MAKE A TOOL, ALL YOU NEED IS A TOOL. A BUNCH OF THEM. STILL NICE BEAUTIFUL WORK. CHEERS
Man your work is incredible! It's an honor to watch you work.
I know it's probably not just me but I love the whole rainbow effect you get when tempering......
And as always your videos are amazing, your a perfectionist and it really shows
you are such a hard-working genius
Yes!!!!! New clickspring videos!! Perfect way to end the weekend.
I'm always fascinated by how you are able to create nearly any tool you need to get the job done. Well done.
Beautiful work!!
+Abom79 Cheers Adam, thanks very much for watching mate :)
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There is nothing more a can add to the comments bellow. The quality of Chris' work and the video production itself are really astonishing. Chris truly masters everything he does.
You are a genius. I wish I had a friend like you
WHAT A BRUTAL QUALITY!!!
RESPECT ;)
+Experimentar En Casa Thank you very much, I appreciate you taking the time to watch :)
Love your videos Chris. Got so excited when I saw three in my subscription box!
New to Clickspring (from Adam Savage, Tested channel) and just mesmerized. Gorgeous work. I guess the back catalogue is my viewing pleasure for three next few weeks.
Rope knurling is my holy grail of machining right now. Thank you for sharing this!!
+Jacob Hildebrandt Cheers Jacob, thanks for watching :)
I love bingeing on clickspring videos :D
11:30 - Pure Class
Hello again Chris..I am into making rope knurl (thanks to you)...I changed it a bit on the brass thumb screw. I drilled & tapped through with 8x32. I faced off the head of an allen head cap screw down to the base of the internal hex. Rounding the top of what was left of the head than heated to turn it black again...This gives the brass thumbscrew a half round black knob on the top of the brass...The contrast is very appealing...I am hooked on the beauty of your videos....!!!!....Keep them coming Chris...U R A CHAMP !!!...thanks....Jeff
Awesome to hear about the knurls Jeff!!
As usual the video is informative and concise. I get fed up with a lot of American videos where the presenter has to tell his/her life history! well done Chris, keep it going.
After watching most of your videos, a single question jumps out at me:
"Who is clicking the dislike button, and why???" o_O
Amazing work, man.
+Luke Boland Thanks for watching Luke :)
Absolutely gorgeous. Beautiful work, and not just the video production :)
I like watching skilled people do neat stuff !
Those rope knurls are beautiful. Cant wait to set up a home shop... $$$$$
I started working in machine shops in 1970 using manual machines. Its becoming a lost art here in the states since manufacturing has exported to Asia. I have a Bridgeport mill and Myford super 7 lathe. You do beautiful work.
+camp parson's sunday school Thank you for taking the time to watch :)
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This is the most oddly satisfying channel because everything is so perfectly fitted together. Great video. Great channel.
Making tools to make your tools to make your tools. Love it
the mechanic engineer inside of me squealed like a little girl when I saw this video...
...uh... that might sounded wrong... ...but -this video- your channel is REALLY unbelievable!...
being serious now, I don't think I ever got so excited about videos like this since I discovered *DiResta*'s channel
Sir, my deepest respects for your work. You're really an *inspiration*.
Thank you so much for sharing.
+Nelson Baietti Thank you very much for the encouragement Nelson, its great to have you watching :)
Sir, by all means! It' two A.M. here in Toronto, and I just can't stop watching!
I'm a 3D designer working my way into Game Development, with a Mechanical Engineering background... and, to me, your work is simply art in one of the purest forms I have ever seen!
I can't help but be enthralled by the work of people who strive so much for excellence as you do!
I follow hundreds of people I consider quite extraordinary on UA-cam for many years, and the fingers in one hand are more than enough to count how many I felt compeled in such a way to watch every single video produced as I am consuming your collection right now.
Sir, I feel actually quite honored to be able to watch such work in progress, and from one artist to another, I could say it would mean a lot to me to be able to continue to follow your progress, something that we can absolutely tell that is done with such love and caring.
The world need more people like you.
From the bottom of my heart, I can honestly say *congratulations!!!*
= )
Fascinating to watch and really well produced. Thank you for creating this and posting.
+Pete Brown Cheers Pete, great to have you watching :)
Excellent videos as always.
No problem Chris, I enjoy to watch your videos.
There is a ton of knowledge and skill to be found on UA-cam but the combination of your skill, video editing/lighting/commentary is rare. I hope you continue making these videos, they are among the best in any category
+herotaco Will definitely continue, thanks very much for the encouragement :)
If is perfection somewhere, then this is it
Brilliant. Subscribed. Looking forward to seeing more.
Cheers Gary, more on the way soon
this is the perfection , when you can say 99.9% in not sufficient. thanks Chris
I see you are using your big fancy tools to make a little fancy tool to make a little fancy tool.
I had to read that a couple times to understand it
Do you really work on these things at home? Do you live making such beauties? Or is it just a hobby? Because your machines and skills are amazing!
+Jakub Polomsky (LightlynX) Hey Jakub, just a hobby but one I thoroughly enjoy. Thanks for watching.
+Clickspring do you think you can be able to make the lathe pieces in case something goes wrong ? because everything seems possible unless the lathe stops working
+Clickspring great work dude, i wish can afford some machines to have same hobby ;D
Nassim if the wave stops working, just use the mill.
What's the crazy saying?///// My Tool In Your Hand ... Puts A Smile On My Face !
the cutter you made was a real nice job but to actually use a complex tool you make is one of the best feelings a machinist experiences! Thanks for sharing it!
+Ujeb08 Totally agree, shop made tools are the most satisfying. Thanks very much for watching :)
Love your videos and admire your craftsmanship, just a thought to consider. I see you're quenching in a glass container. If the object you're quenching is fairly substantial and you should lose your grip on it, it will fall to the bottom and be laying on the glass. If it's hot enough it will cause the glass to break, causing your quenching fluid to drain all over the floor (and hopefully not burst into flames in your case!). Believe me, this is not just a theoretical concern... Good luck and thanks for the vids.
It needs to be glass so he can show it to us. But I do agree that it could be dangerous. However he seams to know what he's doing.
Dude, I've set my shop on fire this way, it's not some silly idea that cold never happen. Please do this all you want, my comment was aimed at people interested in learning from the mistakes of others.
+Don Johnson Whoah! What were you quenching? Must've been mighty hot.
+Don Johnson Boro Silicate. Since we are discussing safety. I was a lowly third class Boatswains mate in the Eighties. We didn't do a whole lot with torches, but we never did anything hot without a firewatch. I'm not perfect either. A few years ago I lit a big Husky chainsaw on fire trying to prime it. I was alone in the shop but the memory of Senior Chief Holic's threats to personally keelhaul anyone who dared start a fire in his division reminded me to have a charged fire-bottle handy. My shop was full of flammable liquids and compressed gasses. There was a developmentally disabled treatment center next door. There was a big blue ball of flame then dancing yellow and orange devils on top of the saw. I had it out in less than ten seconds but I lost a lot of sleep over that one.
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Great video, but I thought that I should point out that the relief that you put on the cutter really only offers relief for the very tip of the tooth. While it will work for a while, it really should have been relieved behind the entire cutting edge. That's the main reason it was pushing a thick burr on you first pass around and not leaving a nice finish. Also the the knurling wheels will work better if done at a low speed with a thick oil or even moly grease applied in order to allow for the slippage as you work it into the material. Still looking forward to watching more of your videos, hope this didn't come off as too harsh.
Yes agreed on both points, thanks for watching Siegfried :)
The life of a Hobby machinist: making something to make something used to make something else!! Awesome video Chris
+dannymaciejewski Ha ha! So True! Thanks for watching Danny :)
You are a real artist!
I don't know what's going on, but I like shiny things.
hocadidilyocutt neither do I but I, too, like shiny things
I know what is going on and I do like shiny things! Also
Those are pretty cool shiny things too!
Make the tool that makes the tool that makes the part you want! Don't be lazy son!!!
Why stop there. Make your own lathe, from ore you mined and refined.... ok, maybe not.
Bonus video: how to mix drinks in the skulls of your enemies from which you have taken the land where you claim the ore.
why no simply build your own big bang and extract the atoms of iron and carbon that were formed?
To extract atoms of iron and carbon you just need to make a star.
you might want to ask Cody from Cody'sLab to do part of that
Excellent job. Toolmakers: The genesis of all manufacturing starts with us. It's in our bones, it's that rewarding. Pleasure to watch your videos. Our creative talent comes from God.
Great to have you watching Mark :)
I really like the look of that rope milling more than normal knurling. It gives the piece a classier look.
wow amazing
The 229* people who don't like this are pissed that they don't have a lathe. (edited 6/21)
The 55 people who don't like this probably don't have the brains and talent to know what to do with a lathe; let alone own one. There should be no doubt in the mind of anyone who has accomplished something of value in their lives, that the person who does these videos (Clickspring) is brilliant and innovative.
david
^ That
I'm pissed that I don't have a lathe (a big one I mean), but I LOVE this guy's work! To those who don't like this video, you should subscribe to his channel anyway. You can still learn an enormous amount just by watching how things are done with a very high quality of workmanship. Ultimately, we should all be extremely thankful that this man takes his valuable time to share his knowledge with others - and he does it for FREE.
Just my 1.75¢ worth. (not accounting for International exchange rates of course)
Royal Poison
By reading the comments, I can tell that 90% of the people posting, aren't machinists.
No, the 75 people who don't like this video don't have a screwdriver, let alone a lathe.
Clickspring, you have mad skills!
I know absolutely nothing about machining and I find this mesmerizing to watch! Many thanks from New York!
3 videos in one day? Jackpot :) Nice work Chris. Have you figured out why the chips are magnetic like that?
+Jess Neal Hey Jess, "Stress Induced Magnetization" apparently. Iván Stepaniuk gave a great explanation on the FB page. Cheers mate :)
+Clickspring it's christmas thanks !
+Clickspring I've been stressed my whole life, yet I'm not attractive. And I'm a metal. I don't trust Ivan's explanation... XD
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Guys, and maybe some gals, did you pick up where he uses a metal lathe to actually do hand work like one might on a wood lathe? I have never seen that before.....Very impressive... not sure what the wood worker boys call it...a fence maybe? regardless, it was awesome to me.
I too never seen this before. Very interesting, and now I want to try it;)
+Clete88 Its called a Tool Rest.
Cheers!
As stated it is called the tool rest for your knives. there are a number of different shapes of tool rests as well to help you maintain a tight spacing between the work piece and the tool rest. The less you have to stop the lathe and adjust the tool rest the better. Also when the space between the tool rest and the work piece becomes too far, it can be hard to cut and becomes unsafe. You can experience kickback where the spinning work piece grabs the knife out of your control. The basic tool rest is just a straight flat surface, some of the other types are a S curve, C curve, 90 degree and so on. Traditional wood turning tools are similar to chisels and hand carving tools; but they also have a lot of tools out now that use HSS cutting tips. I just have a basic set of gouges and bevel knives myself.
I know you can turn soft metals and plastics on a wood lathe, but I have not tried it before. I have turned some very hard woods that seemed nearly impossible they were so hard, and required constant blade sharpening.
Addicted to your videos Chris!
First class work, both the machining and the video making. Thank you.
Terrific to have you watching Ian :)
Excellent video, really enjoyed watching and learning. What is that blue marking fluid you are brushing on please?
Dykem Blue, thanks for watching
2 down, one more to go... I could get used to 3 vids a day mate!
+l0ckcr4ck3r Clickspring TV?
Absolutely beautiful pattern
Absolutely brilliant work.
"Yo dawg! I heard you like tools. In this video I'll make some tools to make a tool to use in making tools!"
I was going to make almost the same comment, but your comment was better. So I´ll just shut up now and appreciate the humor your comment, haha...
How can some pieces of metal be sooo sexy!?
+Giaco Whatever Cheers Giaco!
I have to say that the old wheels are much more my style ^.^ Liked the cross pattern.
The production quality, writing, shooting, heck EVERYTHING about these videos is incredible! Seriously seems like a full-time production staff, full-time writer, etc., etc. Unreal how amazing your stuff is. Thanks for the videos!
+n8guy Cheers mate, thanks for watching :)
it is possible to buy such Knurling Wheels from you?
a moment when he says i'll see you laydar.
You're making tools with tools you made. Never ending projects! Great work!
You are a genius in everything
Do you never have to take the diameter into consideration before you form the rope knurl pattern, or did you just get lucky with that piece?
+Lutranereis watch the video!!
Emma Ritson I did, which is why I'm asking.
+Lutranereis about 10:20 mins, i think
Emma Ritson Yes, it cut into the piece, but I'm asking if it would do that every single time, or if he was just lucky and those pieces happened to be close enough to a diameter that would work..
Fair enough. Sorry. My take is yes it probably would. Not sure though. :)
wow.hint don't use file on back stroke it will last longet
you are a PRO at both - machining and video making !
Please don't ever stop making vids. This stuff is mesmerizing to watch (I put on classical music and lie down and fall asleep watching these videos)! This stuff is better than even the show "How it's made". Beautiful HD close ups and excellent editing. Your craftmanship is ridiculously talented.
+ForceField9 Awesome to hear that! Will definitely keep making the vids, thanks for watching them :)
machinist pornography indeed !
ok i had my dose of porn today.
not going to lie when i started this I thought this was going to be dumb but low and be hold I really liked it and found the way he did his work was great and informative so keep it up
Hi Chris you have me onboard, thank you for your time and effort making the videos, your workshop experiences and the fact that you share like others, is outstanding. Regards Beagles, New Zealand.
wasnt aware they allowed porn on youtube,
aw yeah 6:54
Bloops Floops now that's a rim job
Not only do you make the tools, you make the tools to make the tools.
Mind. Blown.
+Elan Jacobs Great to have you watching Elan :)
Clickspring I spent the afternoon binge watching the clock series and as both a watch fan and precision freak, I'm extremely impressed by the work that you put in. Keep it up :)
Omg, if ever you wanted someone to make hard work look so easy this guy is it. Incredible.
Those are gorgeous.
Every video gets better and better! Thanks for showing your steps and teaching as you go!
+Joe Kaufeld Thank you very much for your encouragement Joe, I appreciate it :)
Makes a tool to make a tool to make a clock to keep track of precious time. Brilliant!!
+James Walsh Cheers James, thanks for watching :)
thank you VERY much for these videos.
Thank you for your reply. My wife and I have some really close friends in Melbourne Aus. I did take high school courses at a tech school. I am a Overall Welder and Inspector in my trade but, anything with machinery touches me deeply. My father thought me a lot at our home growing up we had a lot of great toys including woodworking. Keep on posting your great craftsmanship! Since the world that we live in unfortunately fills their heads with inmoral entertainment.
Wow !! Impressive !! Very nice clean work.
Amazing what that "spring cut" can come back and fix up!!
BY GOLLY JOE I THINK YOU ARE A TRUE "OLD-SCHOOL" CRAFTSMAN. ALSO LET IT BE KNOW YOU DO MIGHTY CLEAN AND AWESOME WORK ,TRULY GREAT PRODUCTIONS!!
+Artemus “GrandPa” Rodricq Cheers Artemus, great to have you watching mate :)
T.Y. , CAN'T WAIT FOR MORE, DID YOU SAY YOU WERE GONNA ,OR DID YOU FINISH THAT MOVE THAT WAS LIKE 9 OR SO PARTS? AND JUST AN IDEA BUT HOWS ABOUT A 'TWITCHIN' WOODEN GRANDFATHER CABINET? ALSO YOU COULD DO THE PENDULUM AND THE LIKE AT YOUR SHOP. HOPE,(SERIOUSLY), TO SEE MORE VIDS SOON AND BELIEVE YOU ME I KNOW THEY ARE NOT EASY. AGAIN THANK YOU FROM MYSELF AND ANY ONE ELSE ON THIS SIDE OF THE POND THAT I'VE SHARED YOUR STUFF WITH ON FACE BOOK...GOOD NITE, I'M GOING TO "CRASH-OUT"NOW YOUR TRULY ART
What I like the most in your doing is your use of... *TIME*. Quality parts needs TIME, in whatever amounts it is needed to reach the fullness of the result. A chinese say tells that "A work is finished when the material has found its form and the spirit of the craftsman rests peacefully", it reflects very well in your work. TIME is apparently lost in present times (nowstanding we are frantic in chasing it), and so I truly appreciate your "rediscovering" of it in the natural pace of making things out.
Chris I am totally blown away by the quality, determination, focus, cleanliness and your apparent love of just doing an "A#1" perfect job with your projects and your presentations.....You have made me guilty and self aware for allowing myself to fall into shortcuts & good enough mentality in my own home shop...In short Chris, hands-down a total pleasure observing your performance!!!....and to think that you are just going to get far better as time goes on...awesome !....Now I need to rethink my own shop mindset.....Thank you Mr. Chris.....Jeff...(P.S....you & mrpete222.....yes!!!)
Thanks very much for the kind words Jeff :)
Maaaaaaaatttteeee!!!! That is beyond words how awesome it is!!!
i really hated the color of brass,but when i watched your brass metal scribbler, i fell inlove with brass it's so beautiful.
Yes! More clickspring videos!
apparently I'm with a lot of like minded people here. I'm a machinist but I could watch Clickspring all day.
Great to have you watching mate :)
Hooraaay! New videos!
EXCELENTE TRABAJO!!!! FELICITACIONES!!!! ABRAZO DESDE ROSARIO, REPUBLICA ARGENTINA!!!!!
You make a tool to make a tool to make some pretty bits.... love it! Great videos fella, love your work.
+micheal ward Cheers Michael, thanks for taking the time to watch.
So you machine the tool to machine the part... damn impressive *thumbs up*