Most expensive Land Cruiser! Is it worth it? (Toyota Land Cruiser Sahara ZX 2022 review)
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- Опубліковано 7 вер 2024
- Sitting right at the top of the Land Cruiser lineup is the new Sahara ZX grade. Unashamedly focused on on-road dynamics, wearing huge 20-inch wheels, low-profile tyres and a low front clip, the ZX is $1000 more expensive than the popular Land Cruiser 300 GR Sport that Ponch has reviewed and $7000 more than the evergreen Sahara grade it is based on.
The $138K Toyota Land Cruiser Sahara ZX competes with vehicles like the Nissan Patrol Ti-L, the Land Rover Defender in high specification and also the incoming Lexus LX 500d and LX 600 petrol.
Is this the right spec of LC300 to buy? In today’s episode, Chasing Cars editor Tom Baker conducts an independent in-depth review of the 2022 Toyota LC300 Sahara ZX.
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The Land Cruiser is offered as a luxury SUV in the Middle East and Africa. I'm surprised this relatively tame trim is considered "in your face" in Australia.
The video is just out of touch
Same as in SEA country. This unit, a “Used Import Unit” will cost at least $150k usd. We have no new unit, ours are all 100% imported from the used car in Japan. Mileage vary from 1000 to 10000km. The highest on sale with the highest spec “ZX” + modelista bodykit is around $200k usd. So yes i agree with u, its luxury.
@@ParachuteManiac
Роскошь, по цене!
Но не по сути!!👋
Thanks Tom for providing your opinion on longevity - need more of it in car reviews!
No worries.
Good review about longevity! You are 100%right
The split tailgate is more useful than the single piece for many reasons. If you're pulling a trailer with a load close to the rear the single door may be too long to open. I can leave the bottom closed and fill the trunk without worrying about things falling out. You can leave the bottom closed and have long loads hanging out of the back with only the top open. It's also a comfortable seat with the overhead up and music playing.
😢 rt dd
A few of reviewers probably didn't mention this, but the material used on the rooflining is very nice actually, It's like a soft suede, even the sunshades are wrapped in the same material and even has some nice foam padding in it
Just some points Tom. No, the front seats don’t go back far enough for tall drivers. The steering wheel on the 200 Sahara was electrically adjustable
so not a new design. You didn’t show it so I don’t know if it has changed but the second row seats on the 200 Sahara also have forward and back adjustment to give more room to rear seat passengers. The 200 has the screens on the back of the seats, which are not removable, which is a real pain because if you want seat covers you have to go custom made.
The fuel consumption for the 200 series is pretty well spot on with what I get so well done there and the 300 is a definite improvement however if someone is that concerned with fuel economy why would they look at a Cruiser?
The service interval might be inconvenient for some but you have to remember that those folks travelling around Australia with their massive caravans are working those engines hard. They need regular oil changes. Oil is cheap, engines aren’t. That’s another reason Land Cruiser have legendary reliability. It also helps reduce the chance of a small problem becoming a breakdown. A friend has an early 200 and at one service the mechanic noticed a small weep from the water pump. It was changed under warranty and the first thing the owner knew was when he got a call to say the dealer wanted his car for a little longer so the pump could be replaced. It could have been a different story if he had decided to get the Cruiser serviced when he got back.
So glad to see the third row seats gone on this model, my third row seats were removed as soon as we got the car home and won’t come back out until the car is sold. Personally I think a lot of this model will be purchased by retirees looking to tow a van whereas city cars will be the lower spec Sahara with the third row seats. No mention of optional interior? We chose the cream leather and although it needs more maintenance/ cleaning we much prefer it to black. Good review and I would like to see a review of the base model sometime. Cheers Stuart.
I would still buy the older gen.
Great review as usual - thank you.
Whilst I think there is a lot to like about the new LC300, there are some major failures / missed opportunities in my opinion.
1) WIRED Apple CarPlay - (Even a $25k Hyundai i30 get WIRELESS Apple CarPlay. What happens when Apple releases their new iPhone’s WITHOUT the charging cable?)
2) CD/DVD Player - Does anyone use DVD and CD’s anymore? (Toyota should replace the DVD section for two phone charging pads.)
3) REAR SEAT SCREENS - These looked outdated before the car was even released. (I think Toyota should have made Tablet mounts for the seats, and put a high speed 5G wifi module in the car. This way Toyota could have sold the upgrade for any model variant and a vehicle owner could add a 5G sim plan to have hi speed wireless internet through the car.)
Just some thoughts
you are just talking about your opinion-i still used CDs and DVDs as do millions of people and i dont know anyone who uses Apple products except those with lots of money to waste
@@goldenboyi1989 Someone spending 139k on a City spec LC300 probably has that kind of money
Just be glad it has a CD player and not a tape deck. Toyota are not known for being at the forefront of innovation especially where this sort of tech is involved.
@@goldenboyi1989 Apple products may be expensive, but millions of people use them. At least where I live, even minimum wage workers have an iPhone 6S to an X.
You should add timestamps from UA-cam Studio itself rather than posting it during the video, it would help your audience to easily access the section they want.
The football gimmick really needs to go, add sponsor branded items on something else
Blocks, luggage bags, other stuff for ground clearance or footwell space, anything
Your reviews are consistently great and enjoyable but this just keeps sticking out
Sorry to hear you don’t like it, but I’m happy with it for now so it’ll be staying for the foreseeable future. Feedback acknowledged however.
Agreed, doing gimmicks like that makes you look far less professional.
Back seat space seems too small for the size of the car, but head space looked fine. Rear screens look like they are from 2005 I think a tablet holder would have been a lot better. And CD player? And just 1 engine? No hybrid or full electric? And that price? Yeah nah. Great review Tom, love your work!
Headroom is no issue but legroom is a bit tight and your knees are high.
In KRG the highest that we can get is VX.R and we don’t have any waiting time, pay it and get it.
Can’t wait to pick up my LC 300 GR Sport 😊
Enjoy!
if that engine could be squeezed into the prado, thats what i would want
Would love that, particularly given Everest is getting a diesel V6.
It's far more likely that the next Prado will be the 300 body/chassis with the 4cyl engine.
You guys need to start adding in reviewing the infotainment system of the cars!…..please! Also need to show more viewing angles of the interior.
I’m switching over more to watching CarExpert.
OK, noted.
Please don't. I care about the car not the bloody radio.
I think Toyota was right going with a Diesel V6 instead of staying with the old V8 or going Hybrid.
There will be a hybrid in future but probably petrol-based -- see the Tundra's twin-turbo petrol V6 i-Force Max hybrid. Looks good.
I was looking for 7 Seater from last 3 months.
I been to MERCEDES GLS63AMG, LEXUS 500d , LAND ROVER, nissan patrol,And all the Toyota dealerships around Melbourne.12 Fucking months waiting on everything.Went to melton Toyota to test drive LC300 Sahara. And finally I convinced the sales guy and The Manager to sell me their DEMO VEHICLE. $130k. Can’t complain. 😎😁
Love these or hate them their re-sale value is the best.! When you go to sell the car you will get all your money back. Not many cars do that. Would you sacrifice all that money for a better infotainment system or bells and whistles? It's the customers choice. A BMW or Mercedes has all the bells and whistles but after 4 years you have lost all your money.
This just isn't completely true. Toyotas generally depreciate less than any other brand. That part is true. But they still depreciate. A vehicle is not an investment, it's a liability. It's the user experience that should be important. Don't buy something because it will lose slightly less of its value over time than something else. Imagine if we did this with shoes... I bought this pair of shoes because although they aren't as comfortable or nice looking as others, when I go to sell them I'll get more money back.?! It varies from market to market, but in my country Toyotas drop in value about 30 percent in five years. BMW and Mercedes drop about 50%, then they level off and retain the value, while the Toyota continue to depreciate eventually equaling the other brands in resale value. I've never understood this argument of resale value.. The main selling point of the vehicle is getting rid of it.
The hole reason why toyota has a good resale value is because no one wants to sell cars like bmw and Mercedes’ or any euro cars drop in resale value is the cost to maintain after less kilometres put on them reliability is the key
Agree with your conclusion. Can't see how a rich suburbanite will go with this over a Lexus. Very weird decision by Toyota.
So purchased by Boomers with their Superannuation or Redundancy payout.
Sorry cannot see the value.
Worth it 100%
LC300 has gone soft. Small tyre size, all the angles & clearence average. No front/rear diff & KDSS in some markets with basic version. Less room in the front&back. No split gate. It became more like X5/7 , GLE/S and other fancy BS 4x4 vehicles.
WHY?
How is the price 138790 when the actual on road price is well over 150000, why are you misleading the customers??? I really dont get it???
Agree 100%
Big toyota fan but this cruiser,tailgate and many more issues just doesn't make sense,a miss for me...will look at a lexus or a military truck...
I dont understand why toyota get rid of the rear split tail gate..that is land cruiser trademark...even range rover start using that on their newer model..
Range Rover has used a split tailgate since it was introduced in the 70's...
Not a land cruiser trademark. Since the 70s Land rover has been putting it on their models.
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I have to agree with you about the rear end. It looks like the designers couldn't be bothered to do anything with it. I wonder how it would look in a different colour instead of black or maybe grey. Red?
A little better but the rear is still too featureless IMO
I’d always take a bland rear over one that’s too busy
Hard to get it right, though it is spectacular when done so
Agree. They stuffed that up. Especially no split tailgate. Edjits.
Hi Tom, will you be getting the any of G42 BMWs soon?
Yep, in editing this week.
@@chasingcars Great, will definitely be tuning in. Holding thumbs you're getting all variants, loved your coverage on the new Golf.
The new luxus is a better buy over this over rated cruiser...this from a distance looks like any other 300 rolling around. Toyota has taken the gamble of pricing the cruiser way over the top for what you get and it seems the public has fallen for it .
Smallest markups on the ZX, but yeah, the GXL, VX and GR-S are in extra high demand
Looks are very subjective and personal, I have ordered one identical to the one shown and think it's absolutely stunning...I wouldn't even consider the LX as I don't like the pimped out look of that model vehicle, particularly the front grill that looks too Chinese for my taste. I also Have a 2020 Range Rover Sport, but wouldn't even consider doing an outback Australia lap in one as it doesn't give the same amount of dealer network backup if anything might go wrong, which is why the Landcruiser has it's superiority over most other brands. Great Review, I really enjoyed it.
Enjoy.
Rubbish
Great review Tom, I wish more manufactures would cant the center screen towards the driver. After driving an Audi with such a screen I don't understand what Toyota don't.
Australia is obsessed with Land Cruiser.
I woukd go the LX
Same, I reckon
I would go Defender ! Or Lexus
I will wait for the F-150 to be released in Australia in 2022
Interesting new addition. Will probably be six figures…
Yep 100%
2023
@@Hansanaw D'oH!... yep 2023.
They not even same category of car bro.
what happened to “I’m Tom BakaaAH, this is Chasing CaaAHS”??
Just trying different methods
650 kg payload, here's the rub, hook up a double horse float with 'nags', thats approx 3000kg (many VX's are in this market), 300kg towball mass, Mum/Dad/Miss Daisy and Miss Daisy's horsey friend, horse stuff in the back, full fuel, water, first aid kit, maybe lunch in the esky (remember no bullbar, no roof rack).... Oooops! sorry no can do, already overloaded. FU Toyota for producing woefully inadequate vehicle (my opinion) for touring and towing without a $5-6000 GVM upgrade. Around 800kg payloads should be absolute minimum for this type of 4WD wagon to be of any real world use.
Don't think it's $5 - $6K - I priced $2600 to get a 400kg GVM upgrade - but get your point - think the kerb weight includes a full tank of fuel as well. However what else are you going to buy - Patrol is only 38kg more & I don't want a ute.
Lol for $138k I could get a brand new isuzu mux/dmax and a 40k boat fully kitted out for inshore and offshore fishing.
But it’s not a land cruiser
The car is beautiful I’m waiting for mine to arrive now 9 months waiting
When’s it due?
Vxr the luxury version for Middle East ,,now it have 50k on it so beautiful car
I would go til y62 a lot of money for fuel and mods to get to a Sahara. 50grand play money
Hey Tom,
Another great review.
Do you know why GR and ZX is only offered in a 5seat version?
Can it be custom made to have 7seats?
GVM Load limitations
but in overseas the same spec and everything, and yet it can be optioned as 7seats?
Here in our country we have ZX and VX, basically the VX is the lower-grade model, and both equipped with the 3.3 liter diesel twin turbo engine
Yes its 7 seater in other countries
I think all diesel models only have 5 seats, whereas the petrol models could have 7 seats.
@14:07 very smooth evasive move there.
Thank you.
Got quoted $150k for ZX
Cooled seats front & rear!
LCT isn’t on-road cost it’s a federal tax, can’t avoid it unless you chop the car in 2 pieces
Nice review… can’t wait for my Arctic white ZX. In Japan ZX is the top selling variant
Enjoy the car!
Is arctic white the real crispy beautiful white like Audi ? Or the ugly pearly white?
@@ahss6275 2 whites Arctic & Pearl
They need to return the split tailgate.
I prefer this over the lexus LX. The exterior looks better anyway IMHO.
For me here is only one real Landcruiser. That is a HZJ 78.
Sahara ZX is deadly
I think USA gets the 3.5 L petrol much more power and no PDF filter !
USA doesn’t get landcruiser. They get Lexus only with 3.45L
savage geese just reviewed the LX600. Overpriced and underwhelming.
I wonder if this ZX version has the Soft Doors closure function? Eg: If people dont close the doors properly, the Doors AUTOMATICALLY engage and closes itself?
I've seen footages in Saudi Arabia there 300 series top version has this function called the "Soft door closure".. "Safety feature"?
Very practical, and handy feature! ;)
All that cool stuff to play with spec, but you just can't buy one and take delivery for lol great review. Memory passenger not a biggie. just move them out of the way and good to go. If the wifey is in the seat, she'll be pulled forward most of the time so if the passenger is out of the way of the taller driver, good to go.
I am surprised that this new Sahara ZX still has Analog gauges rather than digital ? Having a BMW X5 with digital guages this seems to me to be short sighted in this modern day !!
it doesnt even have a up/down paddles on the steering wheel?
I will go for gr sport
How Tom wasn’t laughing whilst delivering the line about ‘CDs’ is beyond me!
Old school
Not really old school, more lazy engi eering and recycling of older parts and designs.
what jean brand are you wearing please ? thank you
Which colour is this? Ebony black or Eclipse black
The 80 Series is better.
Is the is in AUD or USD?
No all cars have become too expensive as they stretch out payments to 7-10 years. It’s ridiculous!
What I find interesting is the rumour that the new CX-60 will come with a 3,3l diesel 6. Mmm, maybe same engine?
CX60 will be straight six TD I believe; not v6.
Yep, 3.3-litre I6 diesel
@@Richard-sl8we you are right. I didn’t think of that.
So it's a compromise ? Not as good as other SUV on the road and not as good as significant other SUV off road.
It’s about having the Land Cruiser image with max spec
How many sports stores did you clear out of soccer balls? 🤣
Honestly, several
What's the point of the footballs? That is among the most useless ways of showing the space.
This or the LX instead if it was your money Tom?
Nope! I’d get a new Lexus GX460 and spend the 50,000$ you save on beer, pizza and a few off road mods
Is the new Land Cruiser AdBlue required? If not, I am afraid it will be required very soon.
No adblue
LX600 instead?
Or the LX 500d
What toyota asking ($$$ ) it's a real jock ! I will buy 2 Nissan petrol or 2 pajero ! Or anything eals !
Is this Ed Sheeran reviewing Land Cruiser ?🤔😅
why even I am watching it.... its not available in the US☹
It leaves the question of where this fits in with the new Lexus version for pretty much the same price
Probably just for people who loves the land cruiser and wants even more reliability(the lexus is already very reliable tho, but the suspension in the lc would probably last longer bcs its not an adjustable ride height suspension
@@dude-kq4qd and I get that. I bought a GXL LC 200 because I preferred the simplicity of not having KDSS and terrain control because I use it to go to remote places. Simple us better sometimes.
The shots of the interior on this video told me absolutely fuck all. After the video I have no idea what the overall interior is like.
Yeah, look, that’s a fairly irrational response given I’ve just gone back and counted that we provided *24 different angles* of the interior in this video. If you’ve still got no idea, try rewatching.
Just get the Lexus
At this price that makes sense
Is the top end trim ever worth it?
Rarely
The body cladding really makes it look a bit like an overweight 4Runner.
10.5L/100km is less !! That too in 3.5L engine !! How much you need dude ??
It misleading with your prices when drive away is $20000 more than what you have in the video. What’s the angle????
What angle? State taxes vary across the nation, so like everybody else we display MRLP prices without on-road costs
@@chasingcars LCT isn’t a state tax
Where can I buy it from India ?
Don't even have watch, no, no vehicle such of this is worth it. Will people pay for it, yes.
Big rig. Just gonna put it out there. But Toyota dropped their durability name a number of years ago. Cough. Hilux, prado, fortuner. We had early v8 cruises consuming 1L of engine oil every 1000km. Toyota argued this was in spec. We had brand new 2.8L hiluxes destroying their transfer cases. We had the smaller hilux engines dusting all their engines…. DPF… injectors. My god. Toyota what a mess. The latest 2Bn class action lawsuit is a telling tale of where Toyota is these days. The ONLY reason this car sells to its production capacity (somewhat low volume production)…. Is because there is not other car competing in class. there is still a huge amount of patriotic Toyota fans that swear by them. Owning one of these second hand approaching 10 years/ 200,000km old will be unaffordable to keep running with Australian labour costs...
I think the target audience, aside from cashed up bogans, is gonna be mostly middle managers of South American manufacturers of "forestry products." Considering that's the only version they're offering in the US, I think Toyota is thinking the same thing.
When you need to look boss, but a Range Rover isn't going to handle the terrain. Hopefully they offer an armoured version.
Looks like a brick, handles like a brick, accelerates like a brick (unless its being thrown). It's a very expensive brick. I'd take this over a Range Rover any day of the week but come on Australia, we seem to be going backwards. This thing should be hybrid at a minimum considering it wont do any off-roading.
Hybrid is on the horizon but arguably should have *launched* with LC300… see the Tundra's i-Force Max.
I’d predict you have not seen one or driven one if that is your opinion.
@@TheUKNZ I actually think you haven’t driven both…. Got rocks in your head if you think this drives well.
@@Dorko85 I own one!
@@TheUKNZ yeah have you driven a Range Rover, as they are very different levels of refinement
What is size of boot please, in litres?
Yeah, that football test is utterly useless.
FFS, no digital instrument cluster on a $140k SUV.
Analog looks far better.
Some people prefer handsome analogue dials, especially the demographic which buys this vehicle
Good move by Toyota. Traditional dials cause far less fatigue on the eyes.
should have been a i6 insead of v6s
why its too expensive ? what is Toyota justification for this higher price , all the technology Toyota used inside in this its pretty old only reason is Toyota just adopted .
WHAT DID YOU JUST CALL FOOTBALL BALLS?
soccer balls
Hi Tom, Please listen to my request. I've been searching all the Australian car review channels and non of them have made a review about base model LC300 GX. All other models are covered but only GX left untouched. Car expert channel's "Paul" promises in his video of LC300 VX that he'll do a review on base model GX, but I think he forgot to do so.
Please Tom if you could hear me out as I'm a big Toyota LC fan and owned 2 Prados for my family and looking to upgrade to 300 series. Thanks Tom and keep up the good work 👍
I think we have one booked. Let me check.
$150,000 just too much! it is twice the money as the 100 series, but not with double the value!
In the end the 200 Sahara was like 120-ish - but yes, this is big money!
Average Australian full time wage in 2005 was $42k, average wage now is $91k.
Sahara TD 2005 $90k, now $150k, actually more affordable now going by the statistics.
@@craigdavid6668 I like the angle. Might be able to sell it to the mrs haha………but Melbourne avg house price in 2005 was 350k. It’s now over $1m 😳
V8??
Price??
The car is nice but only for 5 peoples
8.9l/100 km is not bad but wt was your experience with gas mileage.
For that price rather buy the Lexus LX
It is actually very simple ...vehicle cost plus about $40000 the rest is pure profit ..I bet Japanese executives have a blast at their karaoke company parties with regards their American naive customers !
a land cruiser is always worth it
it's LAND CRUISER for christ sakes
Absolutely not, they are a rip off and a step down from the previous 200 series, and I am not just talking about the ZX !!
i rather get a pick up than a SUV 😂😂😂
Wayyyyyyy too expensive for me
Laughable that you’re sitting in vinyl seats and don’t have even basic luxuries that you get in cars half the price.
This one has genuine leather, but yeah, VX has vinyl
When u drive the car show the interface note ur face.
Yet it's called a 'Sahara'
Sadly this Monster costs $325,000 here due to Custom duties