If you bear in mind that these German Class 52 locos were supposed to remain in duty for not more than ten years, they turned out to be pretty solid...
What do you expect if it is German built, - solid and reliable. Makes me laugh along with Japan they were soundly beaten in WW2, - yet they are now World leaders in a lot of things they make, although the age of the 'plastic' car etc. to name just one item has 'clipped' their wings a bit.
@@blondeguy08 back in the early 2000's an English group along with a steam engine owner set about creating plans to make an oil fired, reliable, easy to operate steam engine that could be used in ordinary service. They called it the 5AT, but it never came to fruition because of a lack of support. Just imagine though, if wood was used instead-renewable fuel, an easy to run design, along with brute force unparalleled by electric traction ( which doesn't have enough torque to haul heavy freight). Back in the 30's Sweden decided to put electric heaters in steam loco boilers and pick up electricity from an overhead wire. Apparently, it didn't work as well as it should have, but in today's modern world, who knows if we could use it?
At 1:36 , this is the first time EVER, I saw two steam locomotives running back to back with each other. Ive seen diesel engines do this all the time, but never steam
15:00 I don't think I've ever seen a real steam loco pull shipping containers before! I thought that line was just for coal! 26:45 wow! a 100+ year old steam loco that's still in regular service!
given well into the 2000s they were (and still are in a single coal mine) using steam haulage in china. And it continued well into the 90s in many eastern european countries, no doubt has happened much more than you think
Amazing! No point upgrading to diesels if you are operating a coal mine and have easy access to water! Probably cheaper to maintain too-no need for specialist parts, just make them in-house
dunxy America is considering putting the big boys back on the rail in regular service and Great Britain has plenty of steam services. I don’t know too much about other countries, but I know China and other really hilly places use some small steam locos to get stuff moving. They just aren’t as common as they used to be.
Logan Littell I don’t think there’s been any real talk of putting big boys back in regular service here in America. Steam locomotives are about 7% efficient to operate whereas diesels are somewhere in the 70 to 80% range. Plus, you can pull the same amount with the big boy as with one big diesel road engine, and with steamers being less efficient I think it’s doubtful
Funny, as an American child in the 1960s and 70s, I disdained European steam. Now, I am riveted by this fantastic footage of these valiant survivors still making a go of it. It's getting to the point where any steam is good steam! Much appreciated and thoroughly enjoyed!
And there we were spending 3 months in China earlier this year. Superb and perfect photography. Thank you ever so much... Inspired for the rest of he week
Ex Austria-Hungarian locomotives in service. That train lived through two world wars, the entire Yugoslav government, the various wars in the Balkans following the dissolution of Yugoslavia to the present day and still working
I was actually amazed at how well I could follow some of the action on google earth. I got lost a bit with the class 52s on some of the single track bits, but still. and its definitely impressive to see steam of any sort still at work...In Europe no less. Well done!
Fantastic films. Great to see steam working hard in normal everyday service. Obviously the mine owners see that using steam is more cost effective than changing to diesels, possibly due to the readily available supply of coal. Long may they continue. Thanks for sharing them.
Thanks Tim. Quickly disappearing though. The 33s are officially restricted to the premises of their respective mines. But there are exceptions, as can be seen in this video.
Sean Elmore diesels ar e just as bad if not worse. And there are far more of them. Locos trucks cars stationary engines etc. a steam loco is just a coal fire not the pollutants in diesel fuel
Michael Naisbitt I wish in my country we had some steam excursions. We can run the damn thing with fuel from within our country. And yes most of that smoke is just steam
That is serious motive power I was expecting small industrial tank locos. 😄 The small 0-8-0 tender loco has the strangest beat I have ever encountered. Very odd valve moments but it works!
According to another comment, it's a compound engine, with one high pressure, and one low. Regardless, I think the poor thing could use a tune-up, as it visibly wobbles due to unbalanced power. Probably isn't doing the frame or wheels any favors. Funky beat, though.
Oh WOW, the 52 with bathtub tender and dog ears...... I worked for the DR (Yes, I am really old) and we had them in light passenger and freight service. Just the whistle is different, we did not have the "Beep Beep", we had the "Hoo Hoo" whistle. GREAT video !!!
That 0-6-0 126 is the last surviving unit of its class (ex MÁV 325,079 built in 1899) not even Hungary has even a husk to show! Kind of a shame that Hungary only has 6 operational steam-locos at the moment, and only 2 of those are allowed to operate on full pressure, and only 3 are Hun. types, in a country that was known to build great steam locos back in those days...
Yea, in here, we are working on to rebuild as much steamer and old coaches as we could. For example, three foundations are work on repearing steamers, where I work, we work on 324,540; using the 324,1527's parts. We have also use the MÁV 1026, and our glorius plans are to rebuild as many steamers as we could. I hope we can manage it!! (Sorry for my bad english, I came from Hungary...😅)
KochersbergTV Absolutely bloody wonderful. Thankyou so much Claude. I have shivers down my spine and tears in my eyes. This is how steam is supposed to be. More please...
KochersbergTV Looking forward to it. Now I've had a relapse. Steam is like a drug. I've been off it for a couple of years, busy with cars. Then one little video and I'm hooked again...
To the best of my knowledge, those locomotives were built around 1943/44 and remained in service ever since, first in the DDR then in Yugoslavia, now in Bosnia.
Wieder ganz wunderbar, im schönen Herbst Licht, traumhaft! Vielen Dank dafür, Claude. War im April 2016 dort, da war das Licht bei weitem nicht schön. Viele Grüße, Jan
Remember taking shots and getting arrested in Ruma yard about thirty years ago seems they might have mellowed all these years later , the yard was being shunted by a couple of class 33s . Is this anywhere near the locations of these videos
Standardized, simplified and without big problems in maintenance and in service. There are several constructions of steamers following these guidelines in many countries.
Why pay someone else to haul your coal when you can use your own engines? Why pay for imported petroleum when your product is coal? Run your own coal in your own engines that you fix, hauling your own product. So the coal is half as efficient, if the petroleum costs half as much, but, you have to pay four times as much to haul your product then run the coal!!!
Sure you may be able to operate your own engines with your own product, but lets not forget that steamers require a HUGE infrastructure network to maintain (roundhouses, back shops, coaling and watering facilities) which also requires a literal army of workers to staff. Petroleum powered diesels on the other hand only require a fraction of the infrastructure needed to maintain them, which also means they require less employees. Plus, each steam locomotive basically needs three crew members to operate whereas two crew members can operate a whole lashup of diesels. To sum it all up, in the long run steam engines are way more expensive to operate than diesels.
Brilliant video! I visited the Tuzla area in 2015 and wasn't disappointed. What was the last working in Part 1? I didn't know the 33s worked anything other than coal trains.
This is beautiful photography Astounding tp see mainline steam like this. I jnew about a colliery in Bosnia. but this is terrific.Thanks for posting. :-)
Eu nesses meus poucos anos de vida, ainda não tinha visto. Umas locomotivas Maria fumaça com uma tão grande capacidade de CARGAS, como Essas que vejo através do (UA-cam) fico muito grato e feliz. Com essas informações mundiais que só o (UA-cam) mesmo para nos realizar, Esses grande desejo de todo o público. de ver máquinas locomotivas. LINDAS. Em Trens. Que transportam um grande Progresso por terra. só os treins tem realizado à grande malha ferroviária pelo mundo todo OK estou. Empolgado. UM Abraço e Parabéns à todos equipes do UA-cam. E à esses grandes proprietários dessas grandes Belezas!!!
Excellent film - interesting with great quality. One niggle however was the fact the only complete train we saw was the diesel hauled one on the main line. The trains were not particularly long - I can understand it in the USA perhaps. Maybe not too much of a mainline issue, but on the narrow gauge, where there were guard's vans attached, we were denied a close look
These locations look like nice places to live:-) A smallholding here is probably affordable and you could grow all your own food. Firewood in winter would be affordable too.
I disagree and agree at the same time. Your problems have been flamed by the USA (Skull and Bones and others) Most humans hate war. But a few evil folk do and they make money from it . We all need to treat those who wish to dominate us as the jerks they are and make them feel they have lost their toy.
Jesus, an engine from 1899 still in regular use!?!? That's a modern day miracle if you ask me! That place must either have a ton of vintage parts stocked up or they must employ some really skilled craftsmen that can replicate parts from that time!
Well yes, you are right. But it should be appreciated that the poor engine could hardly move herself (and a hopper). I would be curious to see the boiler certificate. Having said this, this is a very interesting engine (cross-compound) and she would deserve a careful restoration. And the mine is having a second similar engine hidden somewhere...
I hope so too. I am reasonably optimistic. Even though they are quite dirty, they sound like they are in good condition. The workshops are still working and I saw a steam-hauled tourist train, apparently coming from Croatia.
The Hungarian 126 is a real dinosaur, but regarding the sound I have noticed that several of the locomotives, the 126 in particular, just have 2 exhaust beats per revolution of the wheels, their valve gear setting is waááááy off, the maintenance must be kept to the bare minimum for the locomotives which are not in every day use anymore.
Two beats per revolution = two cylinder compound = normal. The same holds true for the narrow gauge class 83. This being said, the poor old girl could do with a bit of maintenance... and probably a new boiler.
Are you kidding me? these war locos are to be found just about _everywhere_ in Europe, merrily running on tourist lines. Being from Holland, I'd happily swap as many of these as necessary for one "real" dutch engine in running condition - (meaning not american, english or german war babies but locomotives designed in NL).
Brilliant video! I went to that area in 2015. I saw most of what you saw in Bosnia but what's the container working? Prior to watching this video I thought the 33s only worked coal trains. The mine in Serbia looks good to. I didn't know about that one, is they regular steam there?
The narrow gauge engine looks and sounds awesome, thought 2 beats per revolution is unusual to hear, and her whistle is downright ghostly. Although she looks about 50 years overdue for a 1950s Tallylyn style overhaul. The SG 0-6-0 is a beauty, and looks like she could have been a tank engine in another reality. She's quite reminiscent of the very numerous USRA 0-6-0 switcher.
Those are cross-compounds locomotives: one high pressure et one low pressure cylinders. So only two exhaust beats per revolution. Figure out ? The SG 0-6-0 is actually an US model. Some were imported in Yugoslavia immediately after WW II, some were built locally later on.
A very nice video. Too bad you don't know about videoing the entire length of the train. Many of us would like to see that. The night shot was very good - with the switcher up on the high iron. but I sure would have liked to see a pan of the last car as it went by.
Wow. And beautiful footage too! I love the fact that there's no zooming in - and - out- all - the - bloody - time, just great compositions. What camera / lenses did you use? The detail is stunning. The backlit shots suggest fantastic dynamic range, and / or very secure exposure. What exposure mode did you use? Two things I would do differently to get more variation in dramatic effect; more backlit shots and lower viewpoints. But that would be just me. Keep up the good work!
Thanks for your nice and encouraging comment. The video was recorded using a Lumix GH 5 by Panasonic fitted with the 12-60 mm lens of the same brand (actually designed by Leica). In bright daylight, this lens produces razor-sharp pictures.The camera has indeed quite a reasonable dynamic range. The video was recorded in 4K 4.2.2 10 bit All-I codec and edited in rec -2020, which offers a much wider color space as the usual rec-709. For exposure, I set the shutter angle to 180° (1/50 s in practice) and adjust the aperture (around f/5.6) using a variable ND filter, leaving the camera to automatically adjust the ISO value. For backlit shots, I think I was a bit "shy" as the camera was new to me. As for lower viewpoints, I am afraid my old knees bear some responsibility, but I will certainly give some consideration to your comments in my next video (normally it will be Burma).
What a surprise to see this locos still working today! The 126-014 sounds like a compound engine, is this really a compound loco? Great video with a very good sound! ;-)
Thank you for your nice comment. Otherwise, not easy to find technical information about class 83, at least in a language I understand. As far as I can understand, there existed two sub-classes, one using saturated steam and the other one superheated steam. The former was a two cylinder compound while the latter had a single expansion engine. The machine displayed in my video would be a compound, as you rightly suspected from the exhaust noise. For more information about these machines, please see the following (in German): de.wikipedia.org/wiki/BHStB_IVa5
It was great to see the old Class 33s still working at Dubrave colliery. I filmed there three years ago and wondered how long they would remain is service; it looks like they're still doing well. Bosnia had four 33s in active service back then and at least two remain active today, it seems. I also wanted to ask whether you stabilised some of the footage with editing software or did you only use your camera's own stabiliser?
Most of the footage is handheld at least in daylight, but I took advantage of the extraordinary built-in stabilization provided by the Panasonic Lumix GH5 in association with a Leica lens, stabilized as well. With this sort of equipment, a tripod is hardly necessary...unless you also want to shoot still pictures (with a different camera)! As for the 33, when I was there two were active, but a third one was undergoing thorough maintenance.
@KochersbergTV a question about the steam engines. How did you know that there where steam engines there. And how did you know when they would be running ? Because i cant find up to date information anywhere. Or did you find the steam engines out of pure luck? Im asking this because me and a few friends are going to make a little documentary about the last steam engines in the world. please let me know i would be very thankfull if you did.
A good question with many answers: visit regularly the sites of travel agencies, which organise steam train tours (e.g. tanago.de, farrail.eu, railwaytouring.net), and look on social media such as Facebook for groups of steam train fanatics. You can gather a lot of information. Having said this, steam trains are becoming very rare and to watch them, you often have to charter them, which has a cost. By the way, among the most interesting places where to find those trains, some are currently a bit "difficult", Myanmar for example.
@@KochersbergTV Thank you very much! this information will be very helpfull for our project. But i still couldn't find anything about steam engines in the Resivica colliery. Did they stop doing charters/normal service steam hauled trains ?
I have no recent information apart from the fact that Tanago is offering a tour to Bosnia in October next year (!), which seems to indicate that the steam locomotives are still there and serviceable. Impossible for me to say whether this will be charters, but their tour summary makes reference to "plandampf"
@@KochersbergTV Well thank you very much for the information that you have given. Ill keep on searching for information. and just maybe i will find something.
Not sure to understand all of your questions. I suppose you mean "not just trains", because it has not been raining during my stay there. Can you elaborate a bit please.
thanks for the upload. I watch all the videos of old steam loco's shunting cars here and there but it would have been better if the empty cars were shown being loaded, taken to a colliers. were they would be unloaded!
If you watch carefully this video, you will see cars being loaded, but due to the loading method used, little of the process is visible. As for unloading, the trains are going to a power station, which is completely off-limit for visitors.
In Bosnia, there remains a limited usage of steam locomotives as this video is showing. As for Serbia, a few steam locomotives are preserved, but not in regular use.
Unfortunately, the video is very beautiful, but the train whistles are missing during the passage, and in this way, the beauty of the video is very lacking. The train whistle is the basis and the beauty of the video.
If you bear in mind that these German Class 52 locos were supposed to remain in duty for not more than ten years, they turned out to be pretty solid...
What do you expect if it is German built, - solid and reliable. Makes me laugh along with Japan they were soundly beaten in WW2, - yet they are now World leaders in a lot of things they make, although the age of the 'plastic' car etc. to name just one item has 'clipped' their wings a bit.
Where about was it?
@@christopherlovelock9104 Could you elaborate on what you mean by 'plastic cars'?
As a nuclear engineer involved with the engineering and design of pressure vessels I wonder what an update with modern tech would do to a BR52 design?
@@blondeguy08 back in the early 2000's an English group along with a steam engine owner set about creating plans to make an oil fired, reliable, easy to operate steam engine that could be used in ordinary service. They called it the 5AT, but it never came to fruition because of a lack of support. Just imagine though, if wood was used instead-renewable fuel, an easy to run design, along with brute force unparalleled by electric traction ( which doesn't have enough torque to haul heavy freight). Back in the 30's Sweden decided to put electric heaters in steam loco boilers and pick up electricity from an overhead wire. Apparently, it didn't work as well as it should have, but in today's modern world, who knows if we could use it?
At 1:36 , this is the first time EVER, I saw two steam locomotives running back to back with each other. Ive seen diesel engines do this all the time, but never steam
52 handles similar both directions as far as i know so its probably less of a problem then usual
And that's how mighty mac was made
@@Graulas lol
I've seen pictures of it being done here. Usually it was done if it wasn't convenient to turn the locomotives at the end of a trip.
Varinki also. Most locomotive turntables have disappeared. In many cases you simply can’t turn a locomotive around.
Absolutely beautiful.
Good to see some steamers have found a safe haven where they can once more, continue the work they were always ment to do.
15:00 I don't think I've ever seen a real steam loco pull shipping containers before! I thought that line was just for coal!
26:45 wow! a 100+ year old steam loco that's still in regular service!
Yeah, I hope the 120 year gets repainted.
Heres a challenger pulling an intermodal: ua-cam.com/video/XhgHrDbN4EU/v-deo.html
given well into the 2000s they were (and still are in a single coal mine) using steam haulage in china. And it continued well into the 90s in many eastern european countries, no doubt has happened much more than you think
Also back in 1999 the former ATSF 3751 pulled a container train to Los Angeles.
@@jmtrainz2582 me too, it also has a good bark for a small 0-6-0 :-D
Amazing! No point upgrading to diesels if you are operating a coal mine and have easy access to water! Probably cheaper to maintain too-no need for specialist parts, just make them in-house
Agreed:-)
Is that clan line on your profile pic? if it is, N O I C E
Wow, i had no idea we still had steam in regular use,FANTASTIC! Now i want to visit for a holiday.
dunxy America is considering putting the big boys back on the rail in regular service and Great Britain has plenty of steam services. I don’t know too much about other countries, but I know China and other really hilly places use some small steam locos to get stuff moving. They just aren’t as common as they used to be.
Logan Littell I don’t think there’s been any real talk of putting big boys back in regular service here in America. Steam locomotives are about 7% efficient to operate whereas diesels are somewhere in the 70 to 80% range. Plus, you can pull the same amount with the big boy as with one big diesel road engine, and with steamers being less efficient I think it’s doubtful
Like the classic WWll steam locomotives 🚂, after all this time. Still in service , great 👍 steam locomotives 🚂 video! 😀🚂😘 Mike from Missouri
14:13 looks like a painting from the early 20th century. Beautiful
3:50 is also beautiful framing.
23:50 Did it for me, tiny house, washing on the line, car trailer by the fence.
The whistle on the narrow gauge engine is beautiful sounding!
I loved seeing the 1800's locomotive at the end in regular service, I love early steam locomotives.
Funny, as an American child in the 1960s and 70s, I disdained European steam. Now, I am riveted by this fantastic footage of these valiant survivors still making a go of it. It's getting to the point where any steam is good steam! Much appreciated and thoroughly enjoyed!
And there we were spending 3 months in China earlier this year.
Superb and perfect photography.
Thank you ever so much... Inspired for the rest of he week
I had no idea about this! How wonderful they're still in service. I'd love to see it for myself!
Fantastic. Wonderful stuff. Thanks! All this kind of thing disappeared in Minnesota when I was a kid, c. late 1950s. Would love to see this in person.
Glad to see ex-Yugoslav Locomotives still in revenue service! Excellent documentary! :)
Ex Austria-Hungarian locomotives in service. That train lived through two world wars, the entire Yugoslav government, the various wars in the Balkans following the dissolution of Yugoslavia to the present day and still working
New life goals: Move to Bosnia or Serbia and get a job on a steam train.
Also: I know it's not right for a man to cry, but I'm weeping at this.
The stuff of dreams. I wonder if they're still working today? Real working steam...
If "once per week" is good enough - go to Beekbergen in the Netherlands. The VSM runs similar (and some more modern) engines on a very regular base
I feel u pal..
They’re gorgeous, but you don’t want to be the guy that has to get up at 4 am to light the fire. Or maybe you do ...👍
I was actually amazed at how well I could follow some of the action on google earth. I got lost a bit with the class 52s on some of the single track bits, but still. and its definitely impressive to see steam of any sort still at work...In Europe no less.
Well done!
To tell you the truth, I was a bit lost in some places as well. There are tracks all over the place and for some reason, my GPS did not work.
do you have any kml with locations of this tracks? can u give me some places where this locomotives drive in Bosnia? Thanks
Wonderful video with nice coverage of greenery and lovely landscapes .True hardwork. Thanks KochersbergTV.
After I finished watching the whole video, I had to go back to 6:30 to watch that standing start again!
Yes. Real work, isn't it?
Greetings from Lukavac. Nice movie. I live 50 meters from railroad track.
Dario Bacic are there any inns or hotels in that area near the tracks?
Hi Dario, are these trains still operated with steam locos (Oct. 2019)?
Interesting! Youre a lucky man!
Awesome... A few of these scenes I half-expected the camera to zoom out revealing a model RR.
This is just a stunning video. Amazing shots - always in a great place at the right time. Fantastic sound quality. Thank you!
In the words of General Stroheim:
"German Technology is the finest in the world!"
yes
jojo reference heha
Fantastic films. Great to see steam working hard in normal everyday service. Obviously the mine owners see that using steam is more cost effective than changing to diesels, possibly due to the readily available supply of coal. Long may they continue. Thanks for sharing them.
Обожаю паровозы, молодцы те страны,которые их сохраняют и даже используют. Это надежная техника😊 хороший фильм, спасибо авторам. Смотрю вас из России.
Hi, I enjoyed watching this, I was there earlier in the year. It was good to see dirty, working steam in action.
Thanks Tim. Quickly disappearing though. The 33s are officially restricted to the premises of their respective mines. But there are exceptions, as can be seen in this video.
Such reliable engines!
Check the overall air pollution at 2:05
Sean Elmore diesels ar e just as bad if not worse. And there are far more of them. Locos trucks cars stationary engines etc. a steam loco is just a coal fire not the pollutants in diesel fuel
Michael Naisbitt I wish in my country we had some steam excursions. We can run the damn thing with fuel from within our country. And yes most of that smoke is just steam
That is serious motive power I was expecting small industrial tank locos. 😄
The small 0-8-0 tender loco has the strangest beat I have ever encountered. Very odd valve moments but it works!
According to another comment, it's a compound engine, with one high pressure, and one low. Regardless, I think the poor thing could use a tune-up, as it visibly wobbles due to unbalanced power. Probably isn't doing the frame or wheels any favors. Funky beat, though.
This is wonderful! Does anybody know how many of the German locomotives they still have/operate?
Long and happy life to Serbia and Bosnia! :)
Excellent reportage ! Très grande qualité de l’image et du montage ! 👏 bravo !
Oh WOW, the 52 with bathtub tender and dog ears...... I worked for the DR (Yes, I am really old) and we had them in light passenger and freight service. Just the whistle is different, we did not have the "Beep Beep", we had the "Hoo Hoo" whistle. GREAT video !!!
The depicted 33's are Deutsche Kriegsloks Serie 52, nice to hear and see them in service still..!
You beat me to this comment..
~ smiles ~
Polish Ty2.
@Current Batches Uhhh... Strasburg 90 & Frisco #1630?
@Current Batches ua-cam.com/video/S3TqGypgch0/v-deo.html U.S. did and they were ALOT bigger than the ones in the above video.
This is FANTASTIC. FANTASTIC FANTASTIC
That 0-6-0 126 is the last surviving unit of its class (ex MÁV 325,079 built in 1899) not even Hungary has even a husk to show!
Kind of a shame that Hungary only has 6 operational steam-locos at the moment, and only 2 of those are allowed to operate on full pressure, and only 3 are Hun. types, in a country that was known to build great steam locos back in those days...
Yea, in here, we are working on to rebuild as much steamer and old coaches as we could. For example, three foundations are work on repearing steamers, where I work, we work on 324,540; using the 324,1527's parts. We have also use the MÁV 1026, and our glorius plans are to rebuild as many steamers as we could. I hope we can manage it!!
(Sorry for my bad english, I came from Hungary...😅)
KochersbergTV
Absolutely bloody wonderful. Thankyou so much Claude. I have shivers down my spine and tears in my eyes. This is how steam is supposed to be. More please...
Thank you for your nice comment. Keep some tears for the next one: Burma, in January.
KochersbergTV
Looking forward to it.
Now I've had a relapse. Steam is like a drug. I've been off it for a couple of years, busy with cars. Then one little video and I'm hooked again...
Thank you so much for sharing this video with the world!!!
This is sooo cool. Thanks for sharing!
Nice Video from the beutifull Steam locomotives . About still in servis. How long are the locomotives in servis?
To the best of my knowledge, those locomotives were built around 1943/44 and remained in service ever since, first in the DDR then in Yugoslavia, now in Bosnia.
Very Nice video about the steam Locos! Do you know something about the frequention of trains in the Resavica Colliery?
The train traffic keeps changing and I do not live in the area. So I cannot update you about the frequency of the trains unfortunately.
Wieder ganz wunderbar, im schönen Herbst Licht, traumhaft! Vielen Dank dafür, Claude. War im April 2016 dort, da war das Licht bei weitem nicht schön.
Viele Grüße, Jan
these are no museum-steamers, but hard working machines...all aged in their 70's
Absolutely and the last ones in Europe.
Bet this engine could tell some stories wonder what it’s war time service records were
At the very least it wasn't shot full of holes by some Allied fighter!
Remember taking shots and getting arrested in Ruma yard about thirty years ago seems they might have mellowed all these years later , the yard was being shunted by a couple of class 33s . Is this anywhere near the locations of these videos
Standardized, simplified and without big problems in maintenance and in service. There are several constructions of steamers following these guidelines in many countries.
It's great to see that these class 52 so called 'Kriegsloks' are still in duty! Unbelievable! Great!
Thanx for that video! 👍👍👍😊
Why pay someone else to haul your coal when you can use your own engines? Why pay for imported petroleum when your product is coal? Run your own coal in your own engines that you fix, hauling your own product. So the coal is half as efficient, if the petroleum costs half as much, but, you have to pay four times as much to haul your product then run the coal!!!
Yes. It's a Bloody No Brainer. And why not do it on your entire rail network too?
Sure you may be able to operate your own engines with your own product, but lets not forget that steamers require a HUGE infrastructure network to maintain (roundhouses, back shops, coaling and watering facilities) which also requires a literal army of workers to staff. Petroleum powered diesels on the other hand only require a fraction of the infrastructure needed to maintain them, which also means they require less employees. Plus, each steam locomotive basically needs three crew members to operate whereas two crew members can operate a whole lashup of diesels.
To sum it all up, in the long run steam engines are way more expensive to operate than diesels.
bitsnpieces11 should you 900
ua-cam.com/video/aIiYh6-TySo/v-deo.html
Because the government is putting in regulations and carbon taxes against your coal
Amazing footage, thanks so much for this.
Brilliant video! I visited the Tuzla area in 2015 and wasn't disappointed. What was the last working in Part 1? I didn't know the 33s worked anything other than coal trains.
This is beautiful photography Astounding tp see mainline steam like this. I jnew about a colliery in Bosnia. but this is terrific.Thanks for posting. :-)
@28:54 the red star on the side of that loco is from SFRY era I'm assuming.
Probably.
Sound recording is absolutely fantastic
Eu nesses meus poucos anos de vida, ainda não tinha visto. Umas locomotivas Maria fumaça com uma tão grande capacidade de CARGAS, como Essas que vejo através do (UA-cam) fico muito grato e feliz. Com essas informações mundiais que só o (UA-cam) mesmo para nos realizar, Esses grande desejo de todo o público. de ver máquinas locomotivas. LINDAS. Em Trens. Que transportam um grande Progresso por terra. só os treins tem realizado à grande malha ferroviária pelo mundo todo OK estou. Empolgado.
UM Abraço e Parabéns à todos equipes do UA-cam. E à esses grandes proprietários dessas grandes Belezas!!!
A bit of a clean and maybe a repaint would do those beautiful locomotives good...
Excellent film - interesting with great quality. One niggle however was the fact the only complete train we saw was the diesel hauled one on the main line. The trains were not particularly long - I can understand it in the USA perhaps. Maybe not too much of a mainline issue, but on the narrow gauge, where there were guard's vans attached, we were denied a close look
These locations look like nice places to live:-) A smallholding here is probably affordable and you could grow all your own food. Firewood in winter would be affordable too.
Isochest only problem is that we love our wars way too much, so you can be certain that around ever 50 years there will be one.
Lots of land mines around the country though
I disagree and agree at the same time. Your problems have been flamed by the USA (Skull and Bones and others) Most humans hate war. But a few evil folk do and they make money from it . We all need to treat those who wish to dominate us as the jerks they are and make them feel they have lost their toy.
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00:12:02 'It was time for Thomas to leave. He had seen everything.'
"Now Percy has learned his lesson too." He chuckled to himself
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Excellent video, thanks for sharing. Looks like a time-warp.
Jesus, an engine from 1899 still in regular use!?!? That's a modern day miracle if you ask me! That place must either have a ton of vintage parts stocked up or they must employ some really skilled craftsmen that can replicate parts from that time!
Well yes, you are right. But it should be appreciated that the poor engine could hardly move herself (and a hopper). I would be curious to see the boiler certificate. Having said this, this is a very interesting engine (cross-compound) and she would deserve a careful restoration. And the mine is having a second similar engine hidden somewhere...
Not only that it looks like a Queensland Rail B13 1/2.
Amazing. Whether here or across the pond, decapods seem to keep working and escape the torch.
What a truly wonderful video. Fantastic, one can almost smell the steam. Have enjoyed watching it. Thank you.
Hopefully these locomotives will be preserved after their revenue service ends.
I hope so too. I am reasonably optimistic. Even though they are quite dirty, they sound like they are in good condition. The workshops are still working and I saw a steam-hauled tourist train, apparently coming from Croatia.
The Hungarian 126 is a real dinosaur, but regarding the sound I have noticed that several of the locomotives, the 126 in particular, just have 2 exhaust beats per revolution of the wheels, their valve gear setting is waááááy off, the maintenance must be kept to the bare minimum for the locomotives which are not in every day use anymore.
Two beats per revolution = two cylinder compound = normal. The same holds true for the narrow gauge class 83. This being said, the poor old girl could do with a bit of maintenance... and probably a new boiler.
Are you kidding me? these war locos are to be found just about _everywhere_ in Europe, merrily running on tourist lines. Being from Holland, I'd happily swap as many of these as necessary for one "real" dutch engine in running condition - (meaning not american, english or german war babies but locomotives designed in NL).
(Holland scrapped their steam in '57, long before anyone was interested in preserving it :-(
Brilliant video! I went to that area in 2015. I saw most of what you saw in Bosnia but what's the container working? Prior to watching this video I thought the 33s only worked coal trains. The mine in Serbia looks good to. I didn't know about that one, is they regular steam there?
No regular steam in Serbia anymore. They did a favor to us...
Superb footage, many thanks.
Most of these engines run very clean. Is that the coal they use, or something else?
The Class 52 was and is great. My experience with BMW motorcycles is that if it says Made in Germany and you maintain it well, it will last.
The narrow gauge engine looks and sounds awesome, thought 2 beats per revolution is unusual to hear, and her whistle is downright ghostly. Although she looks about 50 years overdue for a 1950s Tallylyn style overhaul. The SG 0-6-0 is a beauty, and looks like she could have been a tank engine in another reality. She's quite reminiscent of the very numerous USRA 0-6-0 switcher.
Those are cross-compounds locomotives: one high pressure et one low pressure cylinders. So only two exhaust beats per revolution. Figure out ? The SG 0-6-0 is actually an US model. Some were imported in Yugoslavia immediately after WW II, some were built locally later on.
@@KochersbergTV That's a curious design, but it must work well if it works now. I did think the SG 0-6-0T looked like an S100.
Thank you, wonderful movie with steam.
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Oh i love steam loco's❤🥰
10:00 how cool is that sound!
A very nice video. Too bad you don't know about videoing the entire length of the train. Many of us would like to see that. The night shot was very good - with the switcher up on the high iron. but I sure would have liked to see a pan of the last car as it went by.
Serija 33 ? Hvala ti na ovim snimkama. Treba pazit na ove masine. Ja sam mislio da su odavno stopljene.
In Serbia, you are right, but in Bosnia, they are still in regular service in the different sites of KREKA mines.
11:49: What is this? A gondola that goes by pulleys to maneuver?
This system is used to push very slowly the wagons under the loading tower.
A counterweight like on a Darling Street tram in Balmain maybe.
I think they're TY2 class in Poland. Great video!
Great footage, thank you.
Wow. And beautiful footage too! I love the fact that there's no zooming in - and - out- all - the - bloody - time, just great compositions. What camera / lenses did you use? The detail is stunning. The backlit shots suggest fantastic dynamic range, and / or very secure exposure. What exposure mode did you use?
Two things I would do differently to get more variation in dramatic effect; more backlit shots and lower viewpoints. But that would be just me. Keep up the good work!
Thanks for your nice and encouraging comment. The video was recorded using a Lumix GH 5 by Panasonic fitted with the 12-60 mm lens of the same brand (actually designed by Leica). In bright daylight, this lens produces razor-sharp pictures.The camera has indeed quite a reasonable dynamic range. The video was recorded in 4K 4.2.2 10 bit All-I codec and edited in rec -2020, which offers a much wider color space as the usual rec-709. For exposure, I set the shutter angle to 180° (1/50 s in practice) and adjust the aperture (around f/5.6) using a variable ND filter, leaving the camera to automatically adjust the ISO value. For backlit shots, I think I was a bit "shy" as the camera was new to me. As for lower viewpoints, I am afraid my old knees bear some responsibility, but I will certainly give some consideration to your comments in my next video (normally it will be Burma).
Looking forward to your 'Myanmar' videos!
Great coverage of some wonderful classics in action!
What a surprise to see this locos still working today!
The 126-014 sounds like a compound engine, is this really a compound loco?
Great video with a very good sound! ;-)
Thank you for your nice comment. Otherwise, not easy to find technical information about class 83, at least in a language I understand. As far as I can understand, there existed two sub-classes, one using saturated steam and the other one superheated steam. The former was a two cylinder compound while the latter had a single expansion engine. The machine displayed in my video would be a compound, as you rightly suspected from the exhaust noise. For more information about these machines, please see the following (in German): de.wikipedia.org/wiki/BHStB_IVa5
I went to this mine last year. Both 0-6-0's present are cross-compounds.
It was great to see the old Class 33s still working at Dubrave colliery. I filmed there three years ago and wondered how long they would remain is service; it looks like they're still doing well. Bosnia had four 33s in active service back then and at least two remain active today, it seems.
I also wanted to ask whether you stabilised some of the footage with editing software or did you only use your camera's own stabiliser?
Most of the footage is handheld at least in daylight, but I took advantage of the extraordinary built-in stabilization provided by the Panasonic Lumix GH5 in association with a Leica lens, stabilized as well. With this sort of equipment, a tripod is hardly necessary...unless you also want to shoot still pictures (with a different camera)!
As for the 33, when I was there two were active, but a third one was undergoing thorough maintenance.
That certainly is some extraordinary stabilisation technology they have put into that camera!
its so amazong that there is 1 steamlocomotiv from 1899 still in service like i wonder wich parts wehre untouch since it was build
Do yo perhaps know if the train at 26:45 is still in service to this day?
Steam engines pulling container trains...gotta add that to the list of things I never thought I'd see.
It's the sound that brings back my memories of steam in the UK in the 1950s for me
The sound is precisely the reason why I am shooting videos in preference to still pictures.
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The old girl at the end of the video looks like she's pretty leaky. Great videos!
I'm glad I know this comment is on a steam locomotive video ;-)
@KochersbergTV a question about the steam engines. How did you know that there where steam engines there. And how did you know when they would be running ? Because i cant find up to date information anywhere. Or did you find the steam engines out of pure luck? Im asking this because me and a few friends are going to make a little documentary about the last steam engines in the world. please let me know i would be very thankfull if you did.
A good question with many answers: visit regularly the sites of travel agencies, which organise steam train tours (e.g. tanago.de, farrail.eu, railwaytouring.net), and look on social media such as Facebook for groups of steam train fanatics. You can gather a lot of information. Having said this, steam trains are becoming very rare and to watch them, you often have to charter them, which has a cost. By the way, among the most interesting places where to find those trains, some are currently a bit "difficult", Myanmar for example.
@@KochersbergTV Thank you very much! this information will be very helpfull for our project. But i still couldn't find anything about steam engines in the Resivica colliery. Did they stop doing charters/normal service steam hauled trains ?
I have no recent information apart from the fact that Tanago is offering a tour to Bosnia in October next year (!), which seems to indicate that the steam locomotives are still there and serviceable. Impossible for me to say whether this will be charters, but their tour summary makes reference to "plandampf"
@@KochersbergTV Well thank you very much for the information that you have given. Ill keep on searching for information. and just maybe i will find something.
Beautifully made
Hi! Great video!
Where is that german type semaphore signal seen at 06:40 ? It's very unusual for ex-YU railways.
The semaphore protects the entrance of Lukavac station.
Wonderful aural juxtaposition at 9:30 of the locos with the Adhan being called from somewhere in the distance.
Well done! Gauge? Nice seeing the gates working and signals working. Not just rains.
22:50 What is wrong without locomotive?
Not sure to understand all of your questions. I suppose you mean "not just trains", because it has not been raining during my stay there. Can you elaborate a bit please.
Standard gauge.
thanks for the upload. I watch all the videos of old steam loco's shunting cars here and there but it would have been better if the empty cars were shown being loaded, taken to a colliers. were they would be unloaded!
If you watch carefully this video, you will see cars being loaded, but due to the loading method used, little of the process is visible. As for unloading, the trains are going to a power station, which is completely off-limit for visitors.
Is the steam in Serbia a regular working?
In Bosnia, there remains a limited usage of steam locomotives as this video is showing. As for Serbia, a few steam locomotives are preserved, but not in regular use.
Unfortunately, the video is very beautiful, but the train whistles are missing during the passage, and in this way, the beauty of the video is very lacking. The train whistle is the basis and the beauty of the video.
I cannot oblige the crew to whistle, especially as there is no reason to do so. Otherwise, it can easily turn into a nuisance.
Amazing material and camara work, thanks for sharing.
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thank you for sharing.
I'm a Maglev train, waiting beside the line eagarly to watch my great grand father is coming.
I'm happy that steam still rains and I hope the railroad has the foresight to save these engines
do the steam trains stil run today?
Wonderful. Thanks from Hong Kong!
The system looks antiquated but seems to also fully serve its purpose.
How long til THESE ENGINES are out of service and into preservation. I know the Chinese ones are out by next year
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