Great video. Hasn’t considered that only eccentric training would improve mostly eccentric movements and less around concentric. Makes obvious sense but good to cater the workouts to goals depending on what you need as an athlete
Exactly what I needed to know, and cleared up some confusion I had for years. I was mistaken that slow eccentric movements were the equivalent of overload but not the case. Thanks!
Thanks man! - very well explained! - I'd heard this term thrown around for quite some time, but didn't really 100% understand it, you are a great teacher, cheers!
Not everything is concentric in sports. Change of directions and decceleration, even running (heel touching the ground after contact) has an eccentric overload component. Some says sports have very little concentric components as most movement involve the stretch shortening cycle. Movements where contact times are very low dont have much concentric involvement from the muscle as it takes the muscle too much time to produce force (as keir from rugby strenght coach says: tendon is king)
I've been thinking alot about this and how most sports (Еspecially combat sports), rely almost entirely on concentric and quasi-isometric contractions. Punching(concentric)blocking(Iso)..or take down (concentric) into choke(Iso). So it appears that based on the SAID principle, that eccentric overload wouldn't be very beneficial. However, Gordon Ryan who is the jiu jitsu GOAT uses body building type training for strength which I thought was weird. But let's say an athlete uses such excercises in a way that is very dissimilar to punches or takedowns, to just help balance out the strength of the tissues involved and "armor build" without creating dysfunctional movement patterns by keeping the general physical preparation training, completely seperate from the plyo, explosive, sports specific training the athlete.does. I think the eccentrics will just fill in the gaps of human function and prevent injuries rather than improve actual force production. Any thoughts?
Its known that eccentric only 1RM basically represents total potential strenght for the muscle (not necesarily achieved) but thar concentric only 1RM is the actual metric for available strenght. They can be close together or far apart, if close together thats a good indication a hypertrophy cycle (or eccentric overload cycle) might be a good idea Basically eccentric is a good proxy for muscle mass and this does correlate with potential strenght gains but its a shit metric for actual strenght.
Hi. What was the takeaway for eccentric training? Good for hypertrophic development and braking contractions? I get the specificity principles but - say for example in MMA - what would you use eccentric phase of pull-ups for? What sports would favour eccentric hamstring curls/pull up phase over concentric? Thanks for help. Appreciate its not easy to contain the science to a short answer. I’ve used eccentrics for gastrocnemius in recovery routines…
Takeaway is that eccentrics work well in many cases such as hamstring strength for runners/ sprinters, hypertrophy work, and certain rehab applications such as loading the gastroc/ Achilles. But don’t overdo it and use them for everything. There’s still a place for power/ concentric movements especially for field sport athletes
@@TheMovementSystem what about climbing rope. So while coming down should I go slowly? Coz going up is concentric, also what to do if I want to increase endurance on rope up and down
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Thank you for a very sensible and insightful presentation
Great video very informative
I will be applying eccentric overload training to my hypertrophy workouts
Thank you for your concise explanation. The examples helped a lot!
Great! You’re welcome
Great explanation my guy!
Thank you!
Great video. Hasn’t considered that only eccentric training would improve mostly eccentric movements and less around concentric. Makes obvious sense but good to cater the workouts to goals depending on what you need as an athlete
i dont think thats true tbough
Exactly what I needed to know, and cleared up some confusion I had for years. I was mistaken that slow eccentric movements were the equivalent of overload but not the case. Thanks!
Thanks man! - very well explained! - I'd heard this term thrown around for quite some time, but didn't really 100% understand it, you are a great teacher, cheers!
Not everything is concentric in sports. Change of directions and decceleration, even running (heel touching the ground after contact) has an eccentric overload component. Some says sports have very little concentric components as most movement involve the stretch shortening cycle. Movements where contact times are very low dont have much concentric involvement from the muscle as it takes the muscle too much time to produce force (as keir from rugby strenght coach says: tendon is king)
Thanks.
So heavy negatives? Got it! Thx for explaining
I've been thinking alot about this and how most sports (Еspecially combat sports), rely almost entirely on concentric and quasi-isometric contractions. Punching(concentric)blocking(Iso)..or take down (concentric) into choke(Iso). So it appears that based on the SAID principle, that eccentric overload wouldn't be very beneficial. However, Gordon Ryan who is the jiu jitsu GOAT uses body building type training for strength which I thought was weird. But let's say an athlete uses such excercises in a way that is very dissimilar to punches or takedowns, to just help balance out the strength of the tissues involved and "armor build" without creating dysfunctional movement patterns by keeping the general physical preparation training, completely seperate from the plyo, explosive, sports specific training the athlete.does. I think the eccentrics will just fill in the gaps of human function and prevent injuries rather than improve actual force production. Any thoughts?
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I agree. Lol
Such a good video!
Thanks!
Great video Matt! Very well explained
Its known that eccentric only 1RM basically represents total potential strenght for the muscle (not necesarily achieved) but thar concentric only 1RM is the actual metric for available strenght. They can be close together or far apart, if close together thats a good indication a hypertrophy cycle (or eccentric overload cycle) might be a good idea
Basically eccentric is a good proxy for muscle mass and this does correlate with potential strenght gains but its a shit metric for actual strenght.
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Hi. What was the takeaway for eccentric training? Good for hypertrophic development and braking contractions? I get the specificity principles but - say for example in MMA - what would you use eccentric phase of pull-ups for? What sports would favour eccentric hamstring curls/pull up phase over concentric? Thanks for help. Appreciate its not easy to contain the science to a short answer. I’ve used eccentrics for gastrocnemius in recovery routines…
Takeaway is that eccentrics work well in many cases such as hamstring strength for runners/ sprinters, hypertrophy work, and certain rehab applications such as loading the gastroc/ Achilles. But don’t overdo it and use them for everything. There’s still a place for power/ concentric movements especially for field sport athletes
@@TheMovementSystem thank you for the response 👍🏻 Great videos. Appreciate the work that goes in.
@@TheMovementSystem what about climbing rope. So while coming down should I go slowly?
Coz going up is concentric, also what to do if I want to increase endurance on rope up and down
@@anishjoshi2777 Yea you can slow the eccentric to build strength and endurance on the rope
Should I train more concentric or eccentric as a football player
Off season more eccentric in season more concentric
How do i build muscle with bfr and with 1 weight
What is the best training for an mma athlete looking to focus on speed and agility ?
Concentric obviously
What rep tempo should I use? Should I go fast on both concentric and eccentric?
Typically you would want to have longer on the eccentric. Something like 301 (3 eccentric 0 pause 1 concentric)
@@TheMovementSystem should I still use that tempo if my goal is explosiveness?
@@ElleTheScalper Yea that's a good tempo for explosiveness. You could also do 201
@@TheMovementSystem ok thanks
@@TheMovementSystem how bout elastic strength and speed sir? How do I train it?
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I'd do super slow training, it's the same theory.
No, it's not even close.
Honestly, I don't get it. More video examples may help.
this how we do it in RSX-club (Resistance Stretching Exercises) ua-cam.com/users/shortsQL5FKCyDFFk
It’s ek-centric. Not ee-centric!!
How to pronounce _eccentric:_ ua-cam.com/video/QnALYCszzMg/v-deo.html