The fact that a small team managed to develop a far more competent project compared to a sloppy Unreal Engine-powered piece of trash only shows the greed and avarice Take-Two is exhibiting these days.
The best part is that the small team is from Russia. Take-Two doesn't have any jurisdiction, especially when the Russo-Ukrainian war started, so they can't sue them.
If there were Indians, game would've looked beautiful, it woul've been optimized and playable, but rockstar loves mediocre white programmers and QAs in their team. They approved that piece of sh*t to go into market.
Fans are the better people to be remastering games because they have something that some botched company doesn’t have and that is care, love and attention. I feel like game companies especially rockstar should work alongside fans to reimagine and not let some people who knows nothing about the game except a cheap way to make money. When fans make a remastered version of VC they do it with absolutely no money
People saying its unfair to compare it against GTA 4 engine, but in a meantime Definitive Edition is not GTA 3 engine either, its Unreal Engine and they did a terrible job with it.
As i see i think they're ue but baked on old rage engine with original physics... look at how cars damaged on all 3, still not realtime deformation damage like in gta4 & 5. Additionally object collision damage physics too - the lightpoles, signs, bins... on streets etc...
I would actually donate money to these guys to make San Andreas next gen edition. I feel like Rockstar has lost its way unfortunately and Take-Two can eat shit.
People are forgetting that Definitive Edition is a commercial product listed at 60$ pricetag (or whatever its now) backed by a billion dollar company and NextGen VC is a passion project by a bunch of fans that just seeked no financial gain from this game.
Programmers: Graeme Williamson barane chan derek payne Gordon yeoman Alan campbell mark hanlon Andrzej Madajczyk Lead Programmer: Alexander Roger QA Manager: Craig Arbuthnott, Mark LLoyd Lead QA: Neil Corbett, Kevin Wong, Tim Bates QA: David Beddoes, David Watson, Barry Clark, Ross Sparrow, James Allan, Neil Meikle George Williamson, MattJones,Rob Harbour, Tom Whittakre, Kit Brown, Andy Mmason, Phil Deane + 20 more and not a single Indian. Unless these are catholic Indians but I don't think so. What was QA team doing, if there were Indians game would've been more optimized and playable.
It's really unfair to compare things like car damage and game physics considering rockstar LITERALLY MADE THOSE TOO. I love this mod, I really do, but I don't think people understand how much work was not done by the mod creators, which is why it's a mod and not a real game. They definitely did better than whatever rockstar produced but like y'all can't just say "look what 4 Russians did compared to a billion dollar company!!" Like these guys didn't make the engine they just used it.
Just like the billion dollar company used someone else's game engine. But it could also used its own. And then they had to do the same job on introducing car damage to their "game". But looking form what they have, they definitely think they hadn't.
Main thing why people compare is exactly how you said. Modders used Rockstar's resources to do something that Rockstar and T2 SHOULD HAVE DONE THEMSELVES. It's really a spit in a face of T2 and Rockstar when you think about it. Modders used everything available at hand by Rockstar to do something that should have been done by actual devs
The Revolution team and the rockstar team incident is like the Luigi misson "Pump Action Pimp" in GTA 3 . Rockstar did exactly the same as what Luigi did in that case.
I know that this comment gonna get alot of hate, and I know that the Trilogy Definitive Edition was a disaster at launch, but the Trilogy DE is not a remake.
Is like a remake because they added new things that aren't on the other games/ports like the weapons/radio wheel, "free aim" drive by and other things they promised that maybe they didn't added at last.
No you are right, it's literally not a remake, it's a remaster. I actually don't like the idea of the old GTA games having HD physics because it destroys the consistency of the gameplay relating to the characters abilities. This mod is really cool and I am playing it and I love it but I don't want rockstar to do this, I just want them to have made the definitive edition NOT have bugs and not look ugly
yeah its the worst fucking piece of "remaster" the industry has ever seen too. its the only remaster that copied 20 year old mechanics to unreal engine and somehow made the graphics even worse. it shouldnt even be compared to this "mod" that is objectively infinite times better than de.
I really hope we can have more of these projects and with the war in ukraine and russias general hostility to the USA it would make the perfect harbour for projects like this.
I mean definitive edition should just have default assets on unreal engine, this is how it could be slightly better. Nextgen edition is masterpiece though. Its just 2 most interesting GTA games mixed.
imagine delivering a better game experience by using reversed engineered tools and ripping both game's code/assets and also extras... by zero cents, crazy team
I will say this, I personally like the more vibrant look of the Definitive Edition, sometimes the NextGen version just looks dull overall tho Nextgen wins by a LONG shot just because of how it plays and feels, it's baffling they didn't get Grove Street Games to do the remasters on the RAGE engine
definitive edition Tommy is a super powerful man nextgen edition Tommy is a not powerful man but definitive edition and nextgen edition Both are very best 😊
More like Vice city disaster edition vs GTAIV Love shitting on the defective edition as much as anyone but come on. Also Next Gen Edition has some collision issues too as well as audio issues and the camera while driving needs some serious tweaking
Issues are issues, that's correct, but when you think about it, 4 guys did a more stable job with porting assets than Grove Street games did. Additionally, modders had to spend time making mod fully standalone.
@@МихаилБганко don't have to think about it, already know they did a better job, many such cases and all that. But video is still mostly comparing VC to GTAIV
& yet some ill minded still think the groveshit defective edition is way better and i still find a "better" part of it and idk what were they thinking 😂
unreal engine not bad compare to in house engine but depend on developer how to utilize unreal engine and thanks to take two interactive thinking modder as new competition
This video is so dumb. The billion dollars company could have ported Vice City into the GTA IV engine RAGE, but that's not Vice City and that isn't what anybody wanted. GTA DE is supposed to play identical to the original VC and it still looks better than Next Gen mod. Why don't you compare the airplanes in the Next Gen mod?
@@thedrbat9572 Exactly. I think this mod is cool and an alternative way to experience Vice City, but in no way the DE should have been a port to the Rage engine with completely different gameplay and physics.
Не вижу ничего глупого. Автор не утверждает, что DE должен был был именно таким. Это обычное видео для сравнения, а вы все как с цепи сорвались. В сравнении геймплея разных игр нет ничего плохого, криминального или тупого. Будь проще. Люди сравнивали, сравнивают и будут сравнивать игры. Когда вышел киберпанк его сравнивали с GTA San Andreas. Дальше будет ещё уйма всратых сравнений в игровой индустрии. Если с каждого беситься и себе жопу рвать, то в этом не будет никакого смысла
Sorry but Next Gen looks more identical to Original than The Definitive Edition. Definitive Editions looks like f*CKING Barbie style SIMS game with no seriousness. Meanwhile NG,being different graphic wise and physics wise still captures the tone of the original game better than DE. Also,he/she is using the new patched version of DE which took literal 3 years to create and implement. So,this comparison is fine.
Unreal Engine is bad very bad!!! I will not playing games until game developers not making it in their own engines! 2000s is the best time for gaming. 2010-2025-203.... bad bad!!!
atleast billion dollar create Rage engine of their own. And modder use it. That's the different. If you hate billion dollar company. Your brain nothing but a trash
@@Enrygoesbrrrrr It's not hard when I played IV for the first time, but definitely way overexaggerated. A balance between IV and V is better. Also people seem to forget that gamers criticized IV's driving mechanics, and when V came out people are mad because it's easy to drive and not "realistic".
@@hollow_dystopia yea i like it when it first came out, cuz gtasa's suspension is almost nonexistent at that time, also it feels like driver games, which i like a lot
You just need to admit, that Rockstar made mistake, by creating remaster trilogy, SA was even a mobile port) While in progress of making game, they said, don't make fun of us, by uploading videos of how laggy the game are 😂 I guess they are all fired
I wouldn't even mad if they remaked the triology. Visual improvements is okay for me, but the way they implemented it is hot garbage. Also iirc, GSG, the team who made the DE, got disbanded.
Not asking for more. Modifying is harder than remaking from 0. Closed source. Programmers limit each other by closed code. They like suffering and don't like progress. This is why we get games based on each other just for sale and not usable tools for creation. They want us to suffer with "development studios" which give nothing but errors. Why can't you study anything and make a program? Not only because you're truly lazy, but because they didn't make their part of job - no clear web-library, not reliable, understandable, usable, relatively short book on how to do things, no development studio that is not just a text editor in 5 GB.
@comrade137 they make it by thier self its not my problem and i just tell the truth i know the definitive edition is bad as remaster with 60 dollar but it playable not crashing randomly
Russia is like digital Cuba😹 when I was a kid I could go straight to the offline shop and buy pirated GTA San Andreas in a broad day light. Good luck Rockstar 😁 Spotify never was a thing here, because our version of Facebook pirated music and even movies...🤣
They can definitely try, but they won't be able to for multitude of reasons, especially one of them being the fact that mod is standalone, aka, it doesn't need original game to run, and that modders are not selling the mod, distributing it for free. + They are in Russia, and Russia has much different copyright laws, and specifically, "Fair Use" is a lot more respected (Which is exactly what this mod is, since Rockstar are credited, and mod is not made to profit from)
@ciklop4206 In Russia, there are completely different rules, we do not pay for Western services - for us they are free, the same Netflix. We can watch all the series in professional Russian translation, it's free. So this mod will not be removed, play and enjoy! We in Russia also love GTA! All the best to all People!
The fact that a small team managed to develop a far more competent project compared to a sloppy Unreal Engine-powered piece of trash only shows the greed and avarice Take-Two is exhibiting these days.
That's basically GTA 4, they should've tried to remaster it while keeping the same engine.
can't be. do you think gta community didn't try? to a 2 decade old engine? you gotta be kidding.
@@mohamednabeel8509 No they should've not. GTA 4 was a great choice as the foundation for the mod.
4 PEOPLE. 4. PEOPLE. PERIOD.
The best part is that the small team is from Russia. Take-Two doesn't have any jurisdiction, especially when the Russo-Ukrainian war started, so they can't sue them.
Shame on take-shit interactive
oh agreed
"Definitive not made with love Edition"
4 Russian nerds with zero funding vs a billion dollar corporation with Indian hires remastering a 20 year old game:
They made it look more Indian 😂
If there were Indians, game would've looked beautiful, it woul've been optimized and playable, but rockstar loves mediocre white programmers and QAs in their team. They approved that piece of sh*t to go into market.
5 russian nerds*
why u mock indians . rockstar is us company
@@ShubhamGupta-hg9md I'm mocking Grove Street games not rockstar
Rockstar❎
Co*kstar✅
*DEIstar after Gta 6
"Greedystar"
Cuck*
The Real Definitive Edition v.s. The UNREAL Definitive Edition
The Unreal Engine is only used as an upscaler for the textures. Otherwise these 3 games are still running on the old Renderware Engine
The physics and feel like they are on Renderware
Fans are the better people to be remastering games because they have something that some botched company doesn’t have and that is care, love and attention. I feel like game companies especially rockstar should work alongside fans to reimagine and not let some people who knows nothing about the game except a cheap way to make money. When fans make a remastered version of VC they do it with absolutely no money
People saying its unfair to compare it against GTA 4 engine, but in a meantime Definitive Edition is not GTA 3 engine either, its Unreal Engine and they did a terrible job with it.
@@ghos7bear They're right it is unfair. T2 has billions of dollars.
And?@@ysuf3125
As i see i think they're ue but baked on old rage engine with original physics... look at how cars damaged on all 3, still not realtime deformation damage like in gta4 & 5. Additionally object collision damage physics too - the lightpoles, signs, bins... on streets etc...
Go And Play With Dolls You Clown
I would actually donate money to these guys to make San Andreas next gen edition. I feel like Rockstar has lost its way unfortunately and Take-Two can eat shit.
we got gta 6 before gta 6
People are forgetting that Definitive Edition is a commercial product listed at 60$ pricetag (or whatever its now) backed by a billion dollar company and NextGen VC is a passion project by a bunch of fans that just seeked no financial gain from this game.
cockstar games been real quiet ever since this dropped
I wish take two CEO was removed from his chair.
Programmers:
Graeme Williamson
barane chan
derek payne
Gordon yeoman
Alan campbell
mark hanlon
Andrzej Madajczyk
Lead Programmer: Alexander Roger
QA Manager: Craig Arbuthnott, Mark LLoyd
Lead QA: Neil Corbett, Kevin Wong, Tim Bates
QA: David Beddoes, David Watson, Barry Clark, Ross Sparrow, James Allan, Neil Meikle George Williamson, MattJones,Rob Harbour, Tom Whittakre, Kit Brown, Andy Mmason, Phil Deane + 20 more and not a single Indian. Unless these are catholic Indians but I don't think so.
What was QA team doing, if there were Indians game would've been more optimized and playable.
These are the credits of original game from 2002, not the 2021 definitive edition credits. Then, Rockstar didn't even had Rockstar India.
It's really unfair to compare things like car damage and game physics considering rockstar LITERALLY MADE THOSE TOO. I love this mod, I really do, but I don't think people understand how much work was not done by the mod creators, which is why it's a mod and not a real game. They definitely did better than whatever rockstar produced but like y'all can't just say "look what 4 Russians did compared to a billion dollar company!!" Like these guys didn't make the engine they just used it.
Just like the billion dollar company used someone else's game engine.
But it could also used its own. And then they had to do the same job on introducing car damage to their "game". But looking form what they have, they definitely think they hadn't.
Main thing why people compare is exactly how you said. Modders used Rockstar's resources to do something that Rockstar and T2 SHOULD HAVE DONE THEMSELVES.
It's really a spit in a face of T2 and Rockstar when you think about it. Modders used everything available at hand by Rockstar to do something that should have been done by actual devs
And why did you compress the DE video to 480p?
Is this possible with vice city stories as well?
Fungije to přesně jako GTA IV nastavení.
Dpcela fajne to maj ale po misi s RC vrtulnickem mi ten save uz nejde zapnout a hra crashne xd
Physics and animation : next gen
Visuals : definitive
The Revolution team and the rockstar team incident is like the Luigi misson "Pump Action Pimp" in GTA 3 .
Rockstar did exactly the same as what Luigi did in that case.
Please can you re-upload
I know that this comment gonna get alot of hate, and I know that the Trilogy Definitive Edition was a disaster at launch, but the Trilogy DE is not a remake.
Is like a remake because they added new things that aren't on the other games/ports like the weapons/radio wheel, "free aim" drive by and other things they promised that maybe they didn't added at last.
@@majdkhalil5425 yeah dude
@@mikynachomiguelangel8032 its small thing
No you are right, it's literally not a remake, it's a remaster. I actually don't like the idea of the old GTA games having HD physics because it destroys the consistency of the gameplay relating to the characters abilities. This mod is really cool and I am playing it and I love it but I don't want rockstar to do this, I just want them to have made the definitive edition NOT have bugs and not look ugly
yeah its the worst fucking piece of "remaster" the industry has ever seen too. its the only remaster that copied 20 year old mechanics to unreal engine and somehow made the graphics even worse. it shouldnt even be compared to this "mod" that is objectively infinite times better than de.
There is a big difference between things made with love , and things made for money.
the one that tommy survives when fell from a higher ground dont count, it happens in the og too
I really hope we can have more of these projects and with the war in ukraine and russias general hostility to the USA it would make the perfect harbour for projects like this.
The word is "passion"
This remake will also be more suitable for gta 3 as well
It's from Russia.I see how.
I mean definitive edition should just have default assets on unreal engine, this is how it could be slightly better.
Nextgen edition is masterpiece though. Its just 2 most interesting GTA games mixed.
Bro AI reimagined videos. Plz😊
Gta vc next gen is one of the remakes,it may be made with gta 4 engine,but still awesome atmosphere
Ждём сан андреас и гта 3 )))
imagine delivering a better game experience by using reversed engineered tools and ripping both game's code/assets and also extras... by zero cents, crazy team
This mod makes the definitive edition look like a mobile game. Oh wait, it is!
nextgen edition is just gta iv with mods?
I still love def edition 😛 cooler visuals,colors..
Download link
Have you even played the original game
Where to download??????
Just type on Google " GTA vice city GTAforum download "
The roast is growing!!!
I will say this, I personally like the more vibrant look of the Definitive Edition, sometimes the NextGen version just looks dull
overall tho Nextgen wins by a LONG shot just because of how it plays and feels, it's baffling they didn't get Grove Street Games to do the remasters on the RAGE engine
definitive edition Tommy is a super powerful man
nextgen edition Tommy is a not powerful man
but definitive edition and nextgen edition Both are very best 😊
Yeah the overscales vehicles bothered me even in gta sa
More like Vice city disaster edition vs GTAIV
Love shitting on the defective edition as much as anyone but come on. Also Next Gen Edition has some collision issues too as well as audio issues and the camera while driving needs some serious tweaking
Issues are issues, that's correct, but when you think about it, 4 guys did a more stable job with porting assets than Grove Street games did. Additionally, modders had to spend time making mod fully standalone.
Sorrg but you are not a skibidisigmatoilet❤
@@МихаилБганко don't have to think about it, already know they did a better job, many such cases and all that. But video is still mostly comparing VC to GTAIV
better than definiteve edition.
& yet some ill minded still think the groveshit defective edition is way better and i still find a "better" part of it and idk what were they thinking 😂
This is running on GTA 5 engine
gta 4*
The Nextgen Trash Edition 😂😂😂
russian skill
unreal engine not bad compare to in house engine but depend on developer how to utilize unreal engine and thanks to take two interactive thinking modder as new competition
Včera to vyšlo gta vc mod do gta 4 to udělali fanoušci. ale supr
Jen škoda ze po misi s RC vrtulnickem to crashne a uz ten save nezapnes
This video is so dumb. The billion dollars company could have ported Vice City into the GTA IV engine RAGE, but that's not Vice City and that isn't what anybody wanted. GTA DE is supposed to play identical to the original VC and it still looks better than Next Gen mod.
Why don't you compare the airplanes in the Next Gen mod?
Fr it is stupid because rockstar also made the engine that they're comparing it too, it's literally GTA 4.
@@thedrbat9572 Exactly. I think this mod is cool and an alternative way to experience Vice City, but in no way the DE should have been a port to the Rage engine with completely different gameplay and physics.
Не вижу ничего глупого.
Автор не утверждает, что DE должен был был именно таким.
Это обычное видео для сравнения, а вы все как с цепи сорвались.
В сравнении геймплея разных игр нет ничего плохого, криминального или тупого.
Будь проще.
Люди сравнивали, сравнивают и будут сравнивать игры.
Когда вышел киберпанк его сравнивали с GTA San Andreas.
Дальше будет ещё уйма всратых сравнений в игровой индустрии.
Если с каждого беситься и себе жопу рвать, то в этом не будет никакого смысла
Sorry but Next Gen looks more identical to Original than The Definitive Edition. Definitive Editions looks like f*CKING Barbie style SIMS game with no seriousness. Meanwhile NG,being different graphic wise and physics wise still captures the tone of the original game better than DE. Also,he/she is using the new patched version of DE which took literal 3 years to create and implement. So,this comparison is fine.
The billion dollars company ported Vice City into Unreal Engine
Unreal Engine is bad very bad!!! I will not playing games until game developers not making it in their own engines! 2000s is the best time for gaming. 2010-2025-203.... bad bad!!!
atleast billion dollar create Rage engine of their own. And modder use it. That's the different. If you hate billion dollar company. Your brain nothing but a trash
Such a nice engine port. Shame it's still using GTA 4's terrible driving mechanics.
Its not terrible, satisfying for me, it may be hard for beginners tho
In gta v it's like every car has a spoiler, stuck to the ground 😒
@@Enrygoesbrrrrr It's not hard when I played IV for the first time, but definitely way overexaggerated. A balance between IV and V is better.
Also people seem to forget that gamers criticized IV's driving mechanics, and when V came out people are mad because it's easy to drive and not "realistic".
@@hollow_dystopia yea i like it when it first came out, cuz gtasa's suspension is almost nonexistent at that time, also it feels like driver games, which i like a lot
You just need to admit, that Rockstar made mistake, by creating remaster trilogy, SA was even a mobile port)
While in progress of making game, they said, don't make fun of us, by uploading videos of how laggy the game are 😂
I guess they are all fired
Android have all 3, VC, SA, LCS, CW and all DE.
I wouldn't even mad if they remaked the triology. Visual improvements is okay for me, but the way they implemented it is hot garbage.
Also iirc, GSG, the team who made the DE, got disbanded.
Why are you guys hating this game so much??? Is it because it looks better? Then screw you! Games shouldn't be based around graphics but gameplay!
Next gen mod has better gameplay and physics than RS defective edition
To be honest the gta vc nextgen is full of crash and bugs
Not asking for more. Modifying is harder than remaking from 0. Closed source.
Programmers limit each other by closed code. They like suffering and don't like progress. This is why we get games based on each other just for sale and not usable tools for creation. They want us to suffer with "development studios" which give nothing but errors. Why can't you study anything and make a program? Not only because you're truly lazy, but because they didn't make their part of job - no clear web-library, not reliable, understandable, usable, relatively short book on how to do things, no development studio that is not just a text editor in 5 GB.
@comrade137 they make it by thier self its not my problem and i just tell the truth i know the definitive edition is bad as remaster with 60 dollar but it playable not crashing randomly
@comrade137 im not defending the definitive edition i just say the problem in nextgen edition
Modding ain't easy. Compared to those nitwits at Grove Street Games, they have done an incredible job.
been playing for 5 hours. Not crashed once. Not a single bug.
Rockstar gonna sue the creators and take down the mod probably a week after because they're jealous 😆
Russia is like digital Cuba😹 when I was a kid I could go straight to the offline shop and buy pirated GTA San Andreas in a broad day light. Good luck Rockstar 😁
Spotify never was a thing here, because our version of Facebook pirated music and even movies...🤣
So late 90's to early 10'? @@hepcat93
They can definitely try, but they won't be able to for multitude of reasons, especially one of them being the fact that mod is standalone, aka, it doesn't need original game to run, and that modders are not selling the mod, distributing it for free. + They are in Russia, and Russia has much different copyright laws, and specifically, "Fair Use" is a lot more respected (Which is exactly what this mod is, since Rockstar are credited, and mod is not made to profit from)
@ciklop4206 In Russia, there are completely different rules, we do not pay for Western services - for us they are free, the same Netflix. We can watch all the series in professional Russian translation, it's free. So this mod will not be removed, play and enjoy! We in Russia also love GTA! All the best to all People!
@ Just like a mini China, I remember when I was in China there is pirated games and movies everywhere and 90% of them works properly