The Low Tier Nightmare
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- Опубліковано 21 вер 2024
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The French Char 2C Bis heavy tank was an unexpected addition to the latest War Thunder update. Although it is quite slow, it is still a very powerful premium vehicle, featuring a massive 155mm cannon with a decent reload rate. I don't know for sure if it is overpowered, but it is certainly strong. Now we just have to wait for Gaijin to add the base version.
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The Low Tier Nightmare
For anyone wondering yes, this thing is very effective at top tier. I’ve seen a 2C bis eat 12-15 105mm Rounds simply because it has no armor and half a French platoon inside
Well that is because as we all know, no armor is the best armor.
This thing is the god mode grinder
A platoon is 20-50 troops, so this is legitimately accurate.
My friend killed a T-72 with it lmao
Does it give the extra silver bonus on the god mode medal?
So you're telling me that when I play War Thunder I get sniped from 500 meters away through smoke, but Spookston's enemies cannot see a schoolbus-sized monstrosity from 50 meters?
Thing is so large that new players don't think that it could possibly be a tank.
@@isodifbrakiul6387 the house moved
its called bots
It's low tier, low level players usually get tunnel vision so it's easy to stomp them
@@LuvTruck-ez9cn player base as in german mains YES i agree
Seeing a moving bus on the battlefield at 1.7 is the most confusing and terrifying things new players can see
Better hope there's some solid cover nearby, or it didn't spot you
If they don't mistake you as terrain
This + that japaneese weird land boat
@@P.K.Veiller The Ka-Chi is unironically one of my favorite tanks
was on a russia map (mozhysk or something like that) and there was 3 2c bis tanks on our team (I being one of them) we formed a flying wedge and slowly but surely pushed the enemy cap and won the match (the rest of our team providing flank guard and repair support) felt like we were made to lead the [land]navy into war...
I watched this thing run over a C33.
The horror.
Just you wait till the great C33 uprising begins. That shall be true horror.
@@AlreadyTakenTag My shilka and Sturmtiger are quaking in their boots.
@@jessegd6306 Oh god dont tell the coomer artist
Maus-chan : (Ara Ara's in the distance)
@@CheezeSpartan No no. DO tell the coomer artist.
1:39 that STUG is now an open top vehicle
I took the top off
I'm dripping like hot sauce 🎶
@@teopazdrijan1008 yessir
This tank has so much explosive material in every shell at so low BR, that it can visibly destroy everything with just one shot.
The last couple updates have been: "there's no way they can add *blank* to the game, it could never be balanced" .... "oh they added it"
Makes one wonder when they'll strike a bargain with GW and just put a Leman Russ into the damn game already.
@@Maddog3060 Emperor-class titan when?
Tog 2 for April fools maybe?
Waiting for the Tsar Tank update
@@Maddog3060 with the plasma cannon
France: Doesn't have enough TT vehicles
Gaijin: A premium it is
Hopefully we’ll get the regular 2C and Champagne into the tree
@@arthurbousquet6838 this one is the Champagne
@tuveuxdugateauxalex7162 I believe this one was converted back to normal then changed agian but this time with more armour. I think it was something like 90mm.
@@arthurbousquet6838 You meant Lorraine/Normandie bud ;)
@Arthur BOUSQUET I will fill my entire hanger with land ships if that happens
Gajin should add the ratte at 6.0 seems ballenced to me
CAS and bombers would have a field day, ngl
@@noelblack8159 Easiest bombing target ever lol, you literally have to try to miss
@@AHappyCub well it does have like 3 AAA turrets
I mean the ontos m51 and a few other things could probably deal with it plus it would be so big and slow it would not be able to do much against bombs and it would just be permanently disabled from broken tracks and barrels
@@noelblack8159 besides the fact that you would need a huge bomb to kill it.
Just saw someone bringing this monster to 7.3 and get 3 kills with it. Literally everyone struggled to kill it because at this BR everyone uses APDS so it takes multiple round to kill each crew members, unlike APHE which can one shot anything.
Yup and no matter what the tier almost 8kg of explosive mass in a 42kg package dropping on your head is going to ruin your day.
It has a rather slow shell so VERY parabolic (aka it arches high) so it make hitting all that soft thin armor up top easy.
I think it was me because, since I have this thing, I play it at 7.7 and only played it one time at his br. This thing is ze funne God mod farmer
I have the solution: HEAT
@@nil981 My T-54 (1949) doesn't have HEAT round, only APDS and APHE. I didn't use APHE because it was a full uptier so I thought APDS is more reliable to use. 3 shots and that mf still didn't die, finally someone lands a final blow and grants me an assist.
As someone who has 7.3 France this sound interesting 🤔
I like that it's a 40 foot long tank with an trench crossing thing on the back... for all those 45 foot trenches.
The tank was also conceived for crossing canals, which are numerous in the region near the french/belgian/german border. Because like the Maus no bridge would support it's weight...
@@aletsk3269 good to know! I thought for sure it was a mistake made by the model makers, but I'm happy to be mistaken.
@@jordansmith4040 Well the "trench crossing thing" don't always appear in archives pictures, so they were certainly optional. But the devs had the possibility to make the tank even longer so they put it :p
I enjoy it when Gaijin actually takes the time to add some whack WW2 vehicles instead of modern nonsense all the time, its quite refreshing.
Also can you make a video on the IS-4M please?
well its sort of actually WW1 vehicle, it started its life as an idea during it
I'm still waiting for Fiat 3000's and FT-17e's
@@xeon39688 The Mark IV better be both versions, with the short 6-pounders and the long ones.
So true, I'm sick of all these modern tanks they all look the same, at least low tier vehicles are unique and have very different play styles.
Then they make it premium so people who don't want to give the company money suffer as the people who fork over 15 bucks steamroll us
i was against one in a match at 6.7 the other day: it melted my team
I saw one go up against some starter tanks, burned through the entire team and slowly approached our spawn
I just started this month. Stuck at the bottom of the tech tree (rip lol). I had two guys playing this tank in squad together at low tier the other day. They sat camping in the only capture point wiping anything that poked its head out of cover until someone finally bombed them.
Gaijin is a literal case study in how to be as unwelcoming as humanly possible to new players
Tarkov enters the chat
@@halogod0298 What they have in common: pay to win and "realism" as an excuse for obscure mechanics. You need to learn unintuitive systems and pay real cash to be competitive in either.
@@themekahippie991 well, that makes tarkov more realistic
@@jacaredosvudu1638 *shitty
Tarkov is a glorified 9-5 now where 75% of the userbase is a closet cheater lmao
If gaijin is a case study, games workshop is patient zero
Can you imagine a limited time event mode with only ww1 tanks?
Like, only ft17, mark v, Saint chamond and a7v?
The sole concept of facing an a7v with 18 people crew is just bonkers
Dont forget crazy modificated tanks of ww1. British just created tank with biggest canon of all times at this time.
@@deauthorsadeptus6920 Wich tank?
@@IlSommoRob A mark IV with a gigant 203mm gun,like those on heavy cruisers. Its literaly half of size of it.
@@IlSommoRob Also french also created something like that, two tractors, one with gun 190mm, other with ammo and generator for both of them.
The matches would be so damn long tho, with all these tanks and their outstanding 7km/h on road
I once joined a match and three other 2C’s spawned in at the same time as me. For a brief few minutes, the 2C Bis Convoy terrorized the Poland map.
I’ve since come to call the 2C Bis “The Iron Wall.”
It is cruel for gods to come down and fight mortal men like that.
The maginot line on tracks
@sir Pom Pom
@@martinmocquelet6745 That’s the best interpretation, and also hilarious.
@@NomadTheProtogenCall it the Rumbling, even.
As a fan of Pre-War French Tanks, I've been waiting for this for YEARS
Me too.
Now we need the FCM F1
the 2c has natural camouflage. how camouflage breaks up your shape with the background the 2c is so large it becomes the background
That’s the perfect way to describe it.
More WW1 tanks would be appreciated as they are way cooler than MBTs in my opinion.
Yeah just add the Renault FT and… and that’s like the only interesting WW1 tank for the game.
Add the Renault FT Gaijin pls, and its American variant.
@@charakigaDon’t forget the Fiat 3000
You mean there are already WW1 tanks in the game?
Definitely need things like the MK IV, A7v, St chamond, K wagen, Low br would be lit! heck why not have a new map based on ww1, No Mans Land.
@@charakigaA7V and the British heavies from mk1 to mk8(not including mk9 for the obvious reason that it doesn’t have any guns), tbh I would love a -1.0 tier, at the very least they would get to bring back the French 1.0 tanks that were literally too bad for 1.0
Plus there are 20’s tanks that haven’t been introduced that can work in 1.0 like the Vickers mk E(on which the t-26 is based/copied from)
That poor guy took out NINE crewmates in one shot and still proceeded to be blown to smithereens by the same tank 😭 pain
Bread?
@@leahmarvel4033 🥖🥐🍞🤨
@@leahmarvel4033Bread 👍
Fish
@@declangreene9747 Bread >:(
the 2C's gun is the equivalent of hitting a fly by throwing a bookshelf at it
Me and my friend got down tiers after having a few rough games, so we were overjoyed. Our face when we bumped into four people all rocking this damn thing. 😐
another impossible challenge for players is only capping 2 objectives and not yo-yoing between all three and leaving after dying to leave your team in a 6 v 15
If they added this perhaps they'd be willing to add in the TOG II?
If they added a whole (bread) french bakery, then i think they will add a Pub to go along with it too
I can only hope, it's the one silly tank I have missed since quitting WoT hen WT brought in tanks finally.
Hopefully all TOG variants are added TOG 1 with the Matilda Turret, TOG 2 early with the 3 inch AT gun and the TOG2* with the 17 pounder...
@@connormartin5430 and the sponsons for the TOG 1
Now they will add it !
you know something's up when it's so slow that it's basically stabilised
5:26 I can't believe i was both complemented and roasted by Spookston. Best late christmas gift possible
Lel
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I haven’t played war thunder in several weeks. I played again a couple days ago. The enemy team had 4 of these things. Not good when you are in a BT and didn’t even know this thing was in the game
Yes! This is why I have stopped playing for 2 weeks. It is cancer, but bomb them… if you can.
Just shoot the gun or turret in general when u have aphe
Scary, but not deadly or super dangerous. Its like a maus, you see it first time and scared as fuck. Then you just start bully him.
@@deauthorsadeptus6920 exactly
@@MaticTheProto Welp, that was like that, untill I got a maus and started bully everyone. Exept soviet and US mbt's, these things just dont care.
Bruh Gajin really added a train
Spook, need to say this man, you're editing is one of the best I've seen. Cracks me up every time and can't wait for your next vid)
This is what I like seeing. More tanks from their early history rather than more MBTs that function exactly the same. It's basically old tanks have character while modern tanks are just MBT built by X Country.
I love these derpy tanks at low tier, having fun always trumps doing well for me in this game, it just takes your focus off the damn grind
You can do well and have fun with this thing... It's my french KV-2... Just silly fun with big booms.
fun fact! On the map "Winter Poland" you can cross the lake since its frozen. IE you can snipe at B whilst using the castle as cover.
Shitty strat since the ice slows you down to a crawl
Useless fact everyone knew already
I didn't :) @@ikat_tracer
I hit one of these with the KV2 APHE and I was very disappointed when it didn't implode cause those guys in the back are so far away their mid battle baguette break wasn't interrupted😂
KV-2 shell hits.
*”You hear something?”*
Carry one or two HE, get it on the high smoke stack thing in the middle. I am an anti concrete shell enjoyer, but never throw away HE.
Fun Fact. French tanks had rear view mirrors so that the Frenchmen could see the frontlines as well.
Fun fact: you still wet your bed.
The British archer would have been a prefect tank for the French
@@lsq7833Fun fact: the walls in your house are thin.
You will be found in a ditch in pieces
So funny and original. That joke definitely hasn't been made thousands of time before.
If you enjoyed the HE shell I recommend taking the 155mm Sturm panzer up to like 8.3 it’s a blast
But you need to get used to the bullet...shelldrop? Lol
@@MatthiasDrinksH20 how is that a problem if youre having fun and use a bit of your brain
@@MatthiasDrinksH20 if he can use that thing, sturmpz is even better, less shell drop iirc
@@DatBoi_TheGudBIAS But more shell drop means you can drop it over even higher obstacles.
@@nineonine9082 yes, but I mean dat if u can shoot the 2C, u can shoot the sturmpz
Everytime this tank fires, the entire enemy team shivers
Killed one of these recently by amo racking it with an L3. One of the proudest moments of my War Thunder Career.
6:48
"Boss, you killed a child!"
Any chance of you covering the French ARL 44 or any of the Churchill variants such as the crocodile or AVRE; also love your videos.
crocodile is bugged rn, ive been reliably penning the roof slant with nearly anything; killed 4 of them with brummbar HE and i was able to disable one with M4A5 (6pdr) sid shot shrapnel.
I just recently confronted this tank in a game, and it was both frustrating to kill and terrifying to fight against, considering it has "strong" armor and has half a platoon as a tank crew. Definitely OP if used correctly
Hey, I'm not sure if you know this, but I saw you scrolling hard to get the distance correction back down. There is a key bind in there that you can set to reset the distance control back to normal so you don't need to scroll all the way back. Btw love your content!
Kind of baffles me how he doesn't know about the ranging reset.
4:27
I love this moment bc I had an exact moment with this tank, like if you fire it and then DONT look at the target you end up second guessing yourself on if the shell is still currently mid-flight or you just missed
8:23 what the hell was that? Sounded absolutely monstrous
Dear Spookston, it is I TheSacredJonah, thank you for killing me 3 times in that 1st Poland match. I feel honored having a meme made for my awfulness in WT. :’)
Its actually crazy how this thing is just 0.4br higher than the Ho-ri, even though its got a slightly stronger derp gun, no open-top, and 12 crew, the speed sucks sure but with these derp guns you don’t really need speed since you can hide behind a hill and just use indirect fire(hell the Ho-ri is probably too OP at 1.3 itself, way too easy to consistently get 5+ kills a game, especially on maps where it can use indirect fire to maximum effect, though the opentop really does balance it out a lot)
The Ho-Ro is a 1944 design when the 2C is a 1926 design though.
@@bendu49100 yeah but the ho-ro is a much worse vehicle in warthunder, unless you are one of those morons who think tigers should face 75mm shermans it makes no sense to have ho-ro and 2c bis so close in rating.
I just hope this thing wont get a higher br bc of the noobs who cant see this barn moving around
@@xdgamer0189 bruh people bring it to 9.0 unironically and still do well with it
@@deeznoots6241 damn who needs leclerc right?
2:11 You aren't in a tank, you're in a LANDSHIP! So you need to treat this lumbering hulk like a ship more than a ground based vehicle.
8:41 he obviously took you for a destroyer and attempted to Kamakazie you
Even know, this is so old. I hope you know that this was very funny for me.
If I had my way, 100% of my tanks would be armed with some variety of 150mm+ howitzer.
I've remember seeing that they sorta leaked the normal Char 2C with the 75mm cannon in the update video so maybe we might see that come to the game soon?
But when? I have not enough time to wait for the next big update
@@decustos4624 probably an event vehicle?
@@galladesamurai2380 , i hope tech tree
Gaijin showed the IJN Fuso on the F-14 patch video but it only came in the following update. So I recon the 75mm char will be similar.
@@sargesacker2599 , I can understand that Gaijin needed more time to add an big battleship into the game, but in this case they only have to put another gun and turret on the chassis, which already exists.
Music choice is immaculate. Love the C&C generals. Great game.
3:04 In their defense, I have mistaken a 2C for a building before. Especially in tight spaces it is hard to separate from the damaged buildings around it as its silhouette is just so different from normal tanks.
Spookston making fun of new players just trying to have fun while he uses a massive HE launching metal baguette with half of a French platoon inside
These things start to popping out... Right after im about to grind the Swedish tech tree...
These things already bogged me down at 1.3 - 2.3 and I'm level 50+, imagine level 100+ trying this thing out seal clubbing relatively new players, fun wasn't it?
*The snail is becoming more and more greedy*
you suck at the game
You honestly don't see too many of them and it not THAT hard to kill them as there are definite weak spots like on the turret itself which can in theory take out like half the crew with one shot. Plus the ammo is stored on the left and right sides in the front and almost everyone carries full ammo as it only carries 24 rounds.
Dude, its like saying Chi-Ha long gun is op. Or T-35 is op. Or even a fucking Kv-2 is op. New players are just so bad, that you can get like 30 kills in rb with no effort.
We could also let new players start at any BR they want, or perhaps era, so 3.3-4.0 and maybe also 7.0 for modern stuff.
@@nineonine9082 They already start at 10.0 or so because they buy the premium tanks and planes
There are 2 types of tank survivability. Armor and crew. Respectively Maus and 2C Bis.
I'd love to see a video on the Chinese WMA301. It's got Gen 2 Thermals, APFSDS, Dual-Tandem ATGMs, Proxy HE, Laser Rangefinder. All at a very reasonable 8.3 BR
Absolutely nothing in this world is better than having literally 3 2C’s forming a train and pushing a point. It fills you with disgusting superheavy tank pride
7:34 bro did a ÷4
Low BR means that you often find that you can flank people in a barely mobile apartment block with surprising ease.
We need more of these silly interwar tanks, like the Grosstraktor, Vickers Medium Mark I and the Soviet T-18.
Soviet t18 is already in game isn’t it?
@@HermanTheGerman2002 Нет
In terms of maps, we are opposites. I played like 20 matches yesterday, and no joke, 14 of them were Golden Quarry.
That must have been hell, I got it for the first time 3days ago and it was rage educing because all the destructibles kept popping back instantly so it made HEAT shells useless and everything made you jitter and rattle like hell due to the fact that it kept popping up under/inside you.
I have played that new valley map ONCE so far after 3 days of grind
Favorite map already, just wish i got to PLAY IT instead of the same maps I've marked as disliked or outright banned
Seriously most maps are utter trash or only fun at certain BRs. Have had Kursk banned for the longest time because spending half an hour crossing the map in a heavy tank only to be shot from the other side of the map is...a little infuriating
Honestly I'm just sad they didn't give us the side mgs and the 20mm rear turret version.
Also as a Churchill main
I wish I had this things speed
Enemy infantry cease to exist, enemy vehicles become convertables, aircraft have to deal with what's effectively a shotgun firing slugs at them... Perfect.
6:15 bro did a trickshot
Only in battlefield
This IS my favourite tank and always will be
10:54 the fact that in any case
The Char 2c has perfect camouflage. Enemy tankers are looking for tank sized/shaped targets, not houses.
0:50 no, it's beautiful
Me: mom can we get baneblade?
Mom: no we have bane blade at home
Baneblade at home:
The 2C is the highest tank ever made with 4,015 meters of high,
The Maus is smaller than this monster with its 3,66 meters of high
And the 2C is a little longer than the Maus
So yeah , definitely the largest tank ever made like said at 0:25
You forgot about K-wagen. Its even bigger.
@@deauthorsadeptus6920 but never made
@@deauthorsadeptus6920 It was longer, but not as high
@@gwetraus9426 and much wider.
As someone who mains France (yes, I love being tortured every time I open up this game) I use the 2c bis to basically serve as mobile cover for my teammates. I don't bother carrying more than like 20 rounds I just drive around, help repair, and block enemy shots
Hey Spookston, on your video on WZ305 you said you need to make another one about PTL02. Would be cool to see it next.
The char 2c bis is my favorite tank, ever.
It was the only super heavy tank to see combat. And is the current largest tank in WT.
You should make a video on the VK 45.01 (the porshe tiger), unlike the other one, its at 5.3 and has less armor, think it would be interesting to see
Maybe you'll get uptiered less :)
He made one on the premium Porsche tiger recently
@@michaelstepchuk9354 The other one yes, i mean the marketplace varient
French Tanker : I would love to drive ... a Baguette!
French Tank Engineer : Say no more!
hey spookston! been watching your vids for a while and i love your channel, if possible, could you do a review on south african military vehicles? (the rooikat 75/105, olifant mk1 and mk2, rhino and the ratel). i'd love to see your view on them as i love my nation's vehicles and would be interested in your opinion.
I like how it was designed to have a giant skid on the back to help with crossing trenches. Trenches that if they were actually so wide as to require said skid, would be nothing more than artillery round traps.
It’s less for trenches and more for rivers at this point.
**vine boom** 6:58
The crew is literally like this:
"Mon dieu! They got Jacques!"
"Ne t'inquiète pas ! Pierre, come over here!"
Audio cutoff at 10:45. A mistake or did you accidently say the n word?
Why did you assume that 💀
Probably said or the fact that I’m fighting shit ass low tiers that don’t know what they are doing
He said "and" bro
Idk what's more disrespectfully hilarious, being crushed by Spook or being dragged around as his trophy lol
I need a compilation of every time spookston does a “flapjack close-up scream” edit at 8:24
I love that the game gives you 10,000 rounds of MG ammo as if implying you're going to somehow use that much
Gaijin actually showed the normal 75mm version in the update trailer, so that's probably coming soon (tm)
9:20 “poo” *gets the eradication punishment*
Genuinely, the amx 30 (1972) could be very good fun for you. Good speed, good gun and a potent 20 mm coax. You could enjoy it
That is a literal land ship, in not only size and crew amount, but also in maneuverability and dimensions
"Shame we can't brake it"-also your computer's memory after new ice detailing update: Memories broken, and truth go unspoken, i even forgotten my name!
I wonder how people at 2.7 not notice a tank the size of a freight train with a full consist behind it. Then again this is 2.7, so many players at this br are somehow both oblivious to huge tanks yet fully aware about lights.
“yes I’m going to fire an Elementary student’s worth of high explosive at a little dinky truck”
This is going into the quote book
Glad to see someone finally covering the name sake of the "Apex Predator" update.
thank god i have tank cruise controls binded, just put the tank all forward like a ship and you can have relaxing gameplay like Naval as France before the french navy comes to the game
You must be on console or something because the cruise control has always been defaulted to E
@@SilvaDreams it's been years since i don't know what default control schemes are
@@nicolaspeigne1429 It's one of the few defaults that I haven't changed
Really useful for just quickly setting a low cruise speed so you can keep moving and not have the gun jumping all over the place pre-stabilizers.
gaijin supervisor: "so pretty much you got a 70 ton fortress that can crawl anywhere at 13 kmh, take an entire salvo of 5 75mm shells, and lob 50 kilogram bombs at anything it sees every 17 seconds?"
dev: "yes"
Gaijin supervisor: "not broken at all! put it in at 1.7!"
This tank is hands down the most OP tank in the game for it's battle rating.
"Slowly I turned... step by step, inch by inch," First to identify the reverence, gets the hero biscuit.
Everytime that things hits a target I hear the scout saying "Bonk!"
"This is gonna club hard"... idd, I just saw one of these sit in a cap for the whole game; best new game experience ever.
Love it when you get a world of tanks ad on a warthunder video its like "I EXIST PLEASE PLAY ME"
Sherman 105 at 4.0 is the ultimate punishing machine. Anything with armor equivalent to a t34 or less just crumples with the heat shell. 130mm pen and 1.6kg (iirc) explosive mass is such a menace.
I use the mouse wheel for small gun adjustments, keyboard up/down arrows for big ones, and I push the wheel down to reset the elevation.
I need small adjustments for tanks like the Obj 120, and big ones for the AVRE for example.
Was playing the tree version of this. It's hilarious when a tiny tank pulls up beside it. According to wiki " It was, in total volume or physical dimensions, the largest operational tank ever made". I saw a great tank museum video about a tank (I'm sure it was this one) and you can literally walk into the engine compartment and walk around it like you are in the engine room of a cruise liner or something. IT should have a pool and tennis court on top.
"From one super heavy to another, merry Christmas" must be one of my favourite qoute tbh 😂