Montana /w Halsey - This Game Made Me Dumber
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- Опубліковано 8 вер 2024
- My twitch chat insisted I make a commentary of this high level high quality Montana game that truly showed how good some of the players in this game are. The amount of work you have to put in to get a win can sometimes be quite mindboggling.
My build, since I didn't include it at the end imgur.com/a/OiA9MH6
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look at all u get :3 o.O
I got a pretty good Kaga game where i carried the team super hard from an obvious loss, if u would like to watch it ill post the link here: replayswows.com/replay/26745#stats Enemy kaga was salted xdddd.
i was waiting for the "you stupid fuck in the montana!!! hiding yourself in the back an do nothing" message from one of your teammates^^
Flamu - you’re using Vigilance again instead of Basics of Survivability. Interesting...
The level of gameplay? Today a Seattle, first one of our team to die of course, raged around 10 minutes at me, even started looking at my World of Tanks statistics (which are good btw, 55% WR, in Warships it's 56%, nothing too amazing) because i, in my shimakaze did not go and fight the enemy grossowoi. The Seattle apparently didn't get the memo about his radar and managed to get surprised by the grossowoi and torped to death. According to the seattle i should have somehow known at all times where the grossowoi is and sailed between him and the seattle so that it would be impossible for him to get torped. I am guessing that more players from world of tanks are switching over because warships still has cross-team chat. Here they can still rage just as hard as they did years ago in WoT.
That feeling when you win against 23 players
yann theman 😂
Remember montana will always be on your team
"so all the Bismarck needs to do is angling and kiting away.... And of course he's giving full broadside"
This cracked me
sometimes i wonder if
Coop battles= you play with players against bots
Random battles = you play with bots against players
Heck, even against bots you will still see players playing dumb....trust me, I have seen too many.
Vincent Lee yup..... way too many... when I play cv and all my cruiser allies die I’m like how it’s only been 5 mins in a COOP wtf
no no, Ranked is playing with bots against players
random is bots against bots
Wargaming fooled you all, World of Warships is a single player game.
I get that feeling quite often.
I love how you present this as "look at this, wtf are we watching" instead of "AMAZING MONTANA MATCH IM SO SKILLED"
#DumblestHiplomat!
so wows already has a battleroyal mode flamu vs everybody
This game summarize everything I hate about this game. Fighting against your enemies and the stupidity of your own team that can sabotage your effort to win is mind numbing. WG needs to change their "Scoring System".
even experience doesnt make them improve...the worst players possible
Friendly reminder, you are probably one of them too. People needs to change "It's my team's fault" and try to go "Damn, I fucked up, maybe I should do x instead of y".
Good players will analyze their experiences and become better, bad players is too fixated with someone else's mistakes and almost never grow.
when u r REPEATEDLY on top of your team ranking, BY FAR, it really shows that your team is the one to blame. especially when its REPEATEDLY done in a DALLAS in a T8 game!
Yes and no, your team is probably indeed a glue eater, but try to find your own mistakes, being consistently at top doesn't necessarily means you don't do wrong things. I did a lot of top exp lose too and used to blame my team for their incompetence, but as I grows, I realized, my team isn't the only factor, some games, I was the one who messed up and letting my enemies to overwhelmed my team, topped the scoreboard but that didn't entirely erase my initial mistake.
everyone does mistakes but im not to blame for team not winning. there is a limit of how much u can carry the team. you cant do 0 mistakes and be perfect. even when u r nearly perfect your team is so horrid that u got no chance of winning...u cant blame it on yourself.
i always try to improve but im not the one responsible for horrible no chance losses.
The IQ of the average WoW player is dropping by the day
Knodsil it's dropping with every match, bruh. I am now finding myself topping the scoreboard with slightly above average gameplay. And I mean slightly. I barely score 100k damage with most of my ships per battle. I seen the CCs get 200k like nothing. Literally performing half as good as Flamu and I still get first place.
When you point this out during the game you hear “The point is to have fun, not win”. This is usually said by someone with like a 45 percent win rate.
I have a almost 49% win rate on my account in NA with right at 3000 battles played but what's funny is I let my brother who don't play that much and his 12 year old son play on my account just because i have better ships in my port. So I think that's pretty funny to still be able to maintain better than I'd say must players even letting my noob brother and my noob nephew play on my account and they still do better than seasoned players at higher tiers.
My guess is all the frustrated WOT players are coming over to WoW and bringing their... special form of play.
Your right and a point I didn't make in my above commit is more times than not no matter which one of us is playing on my account we end up in top of our teams score board win or lose.
These teams....you can't play this game anymore.
reezy 2.0 Ship happens...
"you can't play this game anymore" kek
get good and learn to carry like flamu
Flamu, if you keep carrying like that, you're going to break your back.
And Flamu wonders why people focus him...
I remember getting 5 kills in my NC, with my 6th finishing a full hp Massachusetts in a post-death volley. I lost because I had a full hp sniping tirpitz firing HE at broadside atago. The rest of my team had less than half of my kills when combining their kills. MM in a shellnut c:
just a normal day in wows, playing against 23 other players
Montana is great. Loved her from the day I finally got her. I unlocked the Moskva about a month ago, and I really fell in love with that one. Moskva is insane!
who needs enemies with teams like these!
Its in the nature of ANY online game that the quality of play deteriates over time. People drop out, newcomers do show up, but have inevitably less playtime, experience and those few that remain that DO have the experience run into matches such as this one. Its only natural. Eventually you too will drop out Flamu. The reasons can be many, but its like darwin's law.
The game essentially kills itself. This holds true for just about every game. And in many other real life concepts this holds true as well. However, do not despair, in the long run its a good thing, for someone will step up their game and improve upon life's mistakes. And a better game will come out, and we can maybe have working cv's, or idiot proof BB's, or actual scouting xp gains and so on.
yeah but i spend soem money here so id like this game to be good isntead?
Marijn R But you forgot that even the newer players will get experienced enough at one point that they will be competitive
True, to a degree. As a lot of skill has already left the game, it can be argued that the bar has been lowered. Even so, there will inevitably be more skilled players be leaving then newcomers that come in, that gain skill, so that over a lengthy period of time, weeks, months, years, decades, centuries, eons,... the playerbase will continue to shrink to a point that nobody will play, or be available to teach.
you are partly right, but i see a lot of people in T10's with thausands of games played and still a winrate of like 44%, wich is way more infuriating than some newbees in low tier games.
Lets do some basic back of the napkin math here. Your average match in WoWs has 24 players, discounting yourself, thats 23. Lets say, for argument's sake you meet new unique accounts you never met before in any match in any tier for each battle. After a hundred games, you would have met 2300 accounts. The average server load at peak hours for EU at the moment is 25k ish. Such would suggest you need to have played a 1000 matches, to have met the entire playerbase.
However, we cant all play 24/7. I seem to remember that a while back wargaming boasted how they had a 150million unique accounts across all their products. Then there is the minor issue of seperate servers. And offcourse you cannot possibly remember if you never met a player in any given match before.
Add in that the average winrate is 48%, due to 1% of games lost due to technical reasons such as disconnects or wife going into labour or mom yelling dinnertime, and 1% of draws, and a 50/50 chance of winning or loosing.
Now we need to connect names of anonimous players with a plethora of different ships they have access to and can play with, and quickly you will start to understand that its impossible to say if you know exactly how many "44% winrate players" there are. Its fairly hard to count the number of unique individuals in a crowd when they all have distinctly different outfits and faces, try doing that in a game. To suggest you see a ton of em, and fail to define how many, only leads to more confusion.
In the end, there is no way of knowing if there are a thousand 44% winrate players, 10 thousand, or even a million. And even if there were, It still be but a drop in the ocean of the total playerbase, of which millions you will never see. So while they might be infuriating when you meet them, and when they ruin your game, There will be equally as many, or more players with a 44% winrate that you have met, that win you a game.
Perhaps now you can rejoice at sighting a statistically bad player, and know you still have a 48% of winning.
Just went through the WoWs-Numbers.com stats of the players you killed in the build up to the Kraken; average avg. damage of the players: 29,000 - average player rating: 690 (bottom 10% of active players) - average games played: 5,100.
Meanwhile your team is also dropping like flies... the only way to get super high scores in a match is if both teams are abysmal, all 6 of my 200,000+ damage games have been losses, it's the reason why there are players like me with barely 1,000 games played but rank in the top 20% of players already
CamoDrako wow you're awwwsummm
I know that feeling (low number of games but top percentiles of skill). I always thought I was not very good at the game until the 2nd year or so of playing and I looked at Warships Today (it was the only stat site I knew of) only to find that across the board I was above average in virtually every category. Sometimes by a lot, sometimes not by much, but except for a few exceptions I was doing better than the average player in everything.
What does that say about the average skill of a player when a newb like me could get such stats? And this was back when WoWS was "new" (2016 or so). Christ.
Lt. Voss
Ya, especially when playing top tier, I am always 100% the lowest player on the team in terms of games played, but also in the top 3 or 4 in terms of damage and PvP rating. The game is too slow-paced to allow players to learn, and people justify suiciding by saying they only want XP or credits, but you get more by winning and surviving....
It helps to play a few ship instead of collecting then you get easier high end captains - I have found that the collecting style that I belong to have some disadvantage to those focusing more on fewer ships.
Risheen Mukherjee With you on this one, nowadays teams are so bad that even with 3 man unicum div you will still struggle…
Not the best player around, but I tried my best to support the team…(2k match, 55k avg dmg, 56% WR)
It is summer vacation, it is when all the tomatoes and potatoes ripen and gets ready for picking
I'm absoluteley not complaining, I love to see broadsides and I always get to see them nowadays!
I'm speechless... completely!!! Amazing match from your part. Congrats!
I envy only one thing... one time or twice, you hope not be trolled by RNG dispersion!
For me it's... every single shot I take! Lots, a lots of hope :)
Wow. That CC bonus. I'd love that for cutting down on my new captain training
That's the CC camo I had on the ship, not some innate CC bonus.
I realize it is the camo. It's nice you all get to use those. It definitely allows for more variety in your content and in creation of builds for multiple ships.
So the potato wows players took the "CAPTURE THE D POINT!" war thunder meme too seriously
Wow 1 game from Flamu netted him more fxp than what i can get for 1 month.
Camos, signals and premium account time = lots of XP, free XP and captain XP.
to be fair look at the camp and flags he equipped.
also he got the 250 % community Contributor exp buff
I cant wait for the full BB comparison vid. Flamu chanting conqueror in the background.
Rare footage of Flamu actually angry.
"Actually, I'm more humble than you realise"
How do you make it look so easy, I can't stand my montana whatsoever and you are rocking these games so easily
Marth He is Flamu, so RNGeezus bless him
Because Monty is the best all around ship. She has one of the best skill ceilings if you play her smartly
From my comment: "average avg. damage of the players: 29,000 - average player rating: 690 (bottom 10% of active players) - average games played: 5,100" - he's against utter shite players and getting easy broadsides on pretty much everything he shoots at whilst only have a G. Kurfwurst to stop him, and that can't deal with him at over 13km range
I'm a self confessed potato but I love Montana. If you're having a rough time chances are you need to get closer.
i cant stand any BB,its like its HE meta all day
I am grinding towards the Montana. I was worried that I was going the wrong way, but watching you makes me believe there is no bad ship. If you are good enough.
FLAMU! You make me laugh! When you say "Stupid" I laugh out loud every time! Great match
Insanely stupid match you say? Looks to me like the typical match you get 90% of the time, except there is nobody to carry it. WG skill based MM when?
LOL u want skill based MM? flamu would have even worse teams
err I don't think you know what skill based MM can mean.
WG would never implement a skill based MM, first it may alienate the larger money spending
u r welcome to explain
@@mirasolovklose3888 with win rate? There are more stats in the game that can be skilled based MM, WG just lazy and want us to suffer and this is 1 year later after your comment.
Just listening to your explanations have made me much better. INSANE game btw.
OMG it's incredible... I used to avoid judging WoW players playstyle, but in this vid
... it just staggers the imagination.
I thought I was going mad, because the quality of play on Asia server had reduced even further. I actually had a Minekaze gunfight an Oct. Revolution the other day. Tactical play quality has been steadily decreasing, I saw weekend intelligence during weekdays, and I came out top of the team inspite of being completely drunk. Wonder why that is...
JPN DDs have guns?
Added to that there are those smart assholes who talk shit but died at the start. After they got deleted they will call you noob for not getting yourself kill along with them.
When both your legs are broken and you still have to carry your team...
Great! A fantastic commentary on Republique *AND* Montana!
summer break in effect
nope, just a normal day in wows.
2 years after this video, it is still remarkable how desperately your team is trying to lose.
HARD. CARRY. Good work, Flamu, you have carried the stupids.
But those of us that cannot have other resources need you here! Thanks.
LMAO flamu, time goes down and my team can no longer sabotage me. Funny as hell man.
Bow to the WoW god flamu. RNJesus blesses thy shells and shield thee from harm. Break at your bow like waves does the enemy, Quick and accurate are thy alpha, strung from the bow of Artemis. Anchored to loss only by the men of forced alliance. All Hail Flamu!
POTATOES charge!!! I love it. Finally, I am starting to look better. Valar Morghulis.
The trick in matches like this is not to try and carry too hard. A good player can spot a potato team early on. A great one keeps his patience and doesn't force himself into a bad situation just to put the team over the top.
I'm a good player.
Yay Flamu you put it on!!!! Thats the title i would have chosen exactly. But you didnt put chat on so ppl can see clearly what was going on and also your description of the situation between us is totally wrong. You knew why i was doing this chase. After the first succesfull torp salvo i scored (which you should have praised in the video but anyway :P), you said why am i still chasing you instead of capping and i said that i wont do shit for the shitheads in my team cause they were camping at A-B behind the islands for over 7-8 minutes . So clearly i didnt care for capping or winning or whatever cause the sheer stupidity of those involved in this battle, from both teams, prevented me from wanting to actually play and win. Later i got bored from chasing you and switched to Bismarck for a change but i was already dissapointed and bored to death thus Bismarck survived. Then when you returned closer to A i decided to chase you again just for the heck of it, if you remember i said just before i opened fire that i have a delivery for you, 2 cheeseburgers :P.
So in any case the point in this video wasnt that a frustrated Gearing was chasing the best and most dangerous ship in battle but that around 10-15 ships didnt have a goddamn clue of the game in this Highest Tier battle. Its a shame that WG supports this atrocity, gives no respect to seasoned players by making them play with "human bots" that have no clue. And no, its no fun after so many years playing to sink noobs in T10s, its sad and i want this to change. By posting videos of this disgusting situation i hope it will help.
Every game lately has been like this for me. The DDs don’t focus on objectives or spot, the battleships stay way too far back, and the cruisers get nuked.
It’s bad when you go from tier X to V and see an improvement.
It’s a good thing I’m working on my French BBS or I’d go mad.
yay, fireworks!
Anyway, the accuracy is so pinpoint, it's disgusting
Looks like I'm the one who's playing. Being nervous while watching 😂
@Flamu, you shouldnt switch off the in-game chat ;) We are now about 50% short of the whole entertainment... xD xD xD
Thanks Flamu. That was very entertaining.
I haven't citadeled a Montana from 20 km away ever since they lowered the citadel under the water...
Tier 8-10 really has devolved into shit. I’ve been playing since closed alpha and tier 10 has never been as bad as it was last night.
Played 6 games in Cleveland, all of which were T10 games. For the first 5 games my team were combinations of lemming trains, going to the tactically inferior cap points, refusing to listen to team communication, failing to call targets, losing engagements that should have been guaranteed wins.
The last game I finally won, somehow my Cleveland’s Win rate is still in the 60s and my account win rate is 58%, almost 59%.
Totally anticipated that Flamu will post a vid where he will struggle with his team and against the enemy team. For me, which is nowhere near good as Flamu struggles in this type of situation. For the past month, radar cruisers added already ruined my entire role as a DD main. Then the Indianapolis marathon... Those missions that require a win... Especially part 25 was the one that got me mad(2 fires, 2cits in a winning battle). For five consecutive rounds I did the the 2 cits and 2 fires, and did what I could to let my team gain the upper hand. But as soon as I was taken down by the enemy team, my team shattered to pieces when all they needed to do was to survive and not push anymore for kills. In the sixth round I finally won. From this Indy marathon that lasted for a month and a half, I seriously question myself why I still bother playing this game when I could just hop on to Fortnite and join my buddies. Every battle in Wows is a another battle of when I quit wows for good.
Great game, you sure know how to hit with that Montana; omg.
Bismarck be like "you gave us point lead did you? Hold my beer!" 😜
man that match made my palms sweaty. well played, flamu!
I think "potato fiesta" is my new favorite phrase...
RIP Flolo's blood pressure.
I got a devastating strike on a grober kurfurst for the first time in my Iowa. Surprised the heck out me lol. I can’t ever get citadels on German BBs
It was a funny fight to watch. Wow flamu, you definitely pull that battle out of you. If it wasn't for you, your team would have lost most definitely and I have had to deal with this all the time and I don't have the same skill set as you do. I am learning and improving from your videos. Well, that stuff is going to get worse before better since now the grind has allowed those players that aren't good at all to be in tier 10 now. I have seen and have had to play with them. It can be awful to do but I try to help them out like you have for me with your videos. Thank you
This was awesome and you called it, on the torpedo's.
this is by far the most entertaining wows match i have seen ^^ thanks for sharing! you should send it to jingles, just wanna hear his comments on that :D
Dear God, be the potato, live the potato.
Go to the forum and question the downward spiral of team-play, the quality of the average player, and the skill imbalance of match-making (especially at high tiers) and get trolled to pieces. Told to "git gud." Told to "uninstall." Told "there's nothing wrong." Flamu makes a video highlighting the disparity and everyone agrees..... O_o F*ckin power of suggestion right there...
The EU forum is filled with shills and incompetent cumsucking mongs whose only reason to play WOWS is to show of their epeens. Said epeens have zero value as the sad fact is that player stats are based on random games filled with retards and mongos and not based on facing their peers.
The game has absolutely nothing to do with naval warfare and is nothing more than World of Tanks on blue grass with even more retarded and low/no skill game mechanics meant to cater to lowest common denominator. However the playerbase is so stupid that the only thing that can help those morons win is a server controlled bot script.
#FuckWargaming #GoBrokeWargamingNow
savage
yeah post to warthunder forum you post get delete + ban lol
Well duh, you went and questioned the spiraling quality of the players.....to those players. Of course theyre just going to troll you in the forums like they troll in game all day long.
Nothing quite so special as being called a NOOB by someone with 300 games and a 41% W/R....I wish gaming companies would learn to balance such things. It kills games, over and over again. They never learn.
I struggle very hard to reach scores of over 120k and here SOME people (no fingers pointed) "gets" over 200 in under 10 minutes and total of just below 300k in the worst possible scenarios. I'm gonna give this crap up, walk straight out into the Swedish woods and pick blueberries or some shit like that.
Awesome game btw!
To be fair to that Gearing driver, as much as Flamu made him waste time, the Gearing pushed Flamu into being more or less useless as well. If he’d let Flamu be to sail unmolested, he’d have exposed his team to a Kraken Montana with plenty of health. He only got desperate when the score made it necessary, and ultimately he did manage to sink Flamu in a close fight.
Damn. When I was at 600 games played and had grinded up to T IX a veteran player suggested, I might go back to lower tiers to learn the ropes. Which I did.
But I have to say, I don't potatoe as hard (even back then) as those guys. Maybe I give it a shot again? :D
thanks for sharing. grinning wildly right now :)
Hooray! The long-awaited T10 battleship video is finally coming. c:
As a dd main I just laughed at this yueyang
I am so happy I am not the only player to have horrible players in T10; but this video just takes the Spicy cake and rams it in your face lol, great vid :P
GG fella, so many Potatoes at T X !
Wow, incredible job Flamu.
Runner up for most epic game 2018
Oh my god I hate you flamu you make it look so effortless and easy
That bismarck at the end, i was sleeeeeeep
Montana Best Tier 10 - especially if there is a CV. The range, accuracy and power of the AP is awesome. It is also a tank as long as you angle
Going to have to start calling these players crayon eaters or paint chips, this is extreme potatoe-ism
Look at the bright side Flamu. If only every team mate played well these kind of games would never happen
Awesome game flamu you have always been incredible in that ship. Your probably the reason they keep it as it is. The game would be a lot different if it had its full time radar out to about 25km and its historical 16.5 km ranged secondaries Not sure if it would of had hydro but wouldn't surprise me if it did. If I ever re spec that boat and give it another try I think accuracy will be the path I take.
this is the PEAK of WoWS, the """"""""""""""""""""best""""""""""""""""" players doing so much """"""""""""""""""""advanced"""""""""""""""""""" tactics that not even flamu can comprehend them, truly a work of art
on a sidenote im not even surprised anymore tbh
you can kill every ship but one and die and still manage to lose the game its ridiculous
Here's the vod from Twitch in case anyone wants the glorious live reactions:
www.twitch.tv/flamuu/v/286192750?sr=a&t=2131s
bro youre shots are spot on
It happens to often that players go as small fleet for empty space…. hiding behind the isle and beeing useless there…. frustrating -.-
So that is what it takes to win, almost 300k damage, 5 epic achievements and one potato left alive!
There just are no words.
This could clearly be a "Smackdown" material.
This game was for the history book
What a game! It was very entertaining to watch.
WoW 😯! At least you have got to try the new captain skills
So fun to watch!
I am Harekaze. Our Minotaur torped me, you can see the moment around :45 mark when he gets pink.
Carrying like a strip mine dump truck...
This vid will never get fucking old xd
What a game
I absolutely “love” it when my team seriously screws the pooch after I died.
what a game... thanks for sharing!
That's why I use RDF on my BBs, so I have an idea where the DDs are.
I seriously hope you are on the enemy team then if you use RDF on a BB (rolls eyes)...
And when I play my Montana against ppl, I fire at their broadside, rarely score a citadel at any range, shells overpen even while aiming at the waterline if they hit at all. If I hang back as far as Flamu does here, I get flamed for not getting into the fight.
Potatoes everywhere
Double Strike on Montana lol
Bonn With 12 guns it's easier than many of the other BBs
I found this true of all BBs with 4+ turrets (rather than 3x3 or 3x4), using sequential fire, and having a low health ship and a mid/low health ship, fire 2-3 turrets at the mid health cruiser and get cits+pens and kill, then the other guns that are still turning pop the low health DD/BB/cruiser with the remaining 1-2 turrets and BAM! Double Strike! Obviously firing order could be reversed but either way, with high potential alpha per shell, in the case of a low health ship it can be good to not salvo fire and just fire one or two turrets to get the kill and use those others to pop something else, rather than a full overkill when 90% of the time just the one will do it.
Class ;)
The Yy is from AHPC you can always be sure you have a potatoe playing