I'm a guitarist and mostly stand while I play and sing. In our duo I either have no percussion, kick, or tambourine. I use a SPD One Percussion for a tambourine sound and analog Ortega Horse for kick. I keep both pedals behind me and hit with my heal. No fatigue. Also, with two pedals I never have to make adjustments which would be cumbersome. I tape both pedals down with Gaff tape at every gig to keep them from moving. I have considered using the SPD One for kick sounds. It sounds good enough to me.
I owned a horsekick by Ortega, and tried it with my acoustic duo. When we had a gig the sound technician of the event complained that our gear made a noisy hiss sound. I thought maybe cables or my guitar but it was the Ortega horsekick. Returned it and got a new one at my music store, but again at a different gig we heard an hissing sound (new pedal!) so if you’re playing live gigs this isn’t your best choice.
Thanks for the kind comment!😊 I will keep the Roland SPD Kick by the way. I got a pretty good deal on it and found a way to keep it from moving so much. Sound-wise it’s without doubt the best option.
@@SimonSchuett Do you think it's better than the SPD :One wav? I like the idea of having unique sounds but the Kick has tone and FX controls which could be useful.
I only need the kick and percussion sounds and therefore didn’t look at the SPD Wav. But if you need more flexibility, I guess the Wav could also be a good fit. I don’t use the Reverb and Distortion very often.
Thanks for the positive comment 🙏🏼 That’s exactly what I did! I used a knee pad for that and also glued some kind of rubber on the bottom to prevent it from slipping so easily.
How do I connect this to my acoustic amp (ACUS 8 FERDI)? I sing and pick acoustic guitar (D18/28) so do I need 2 or 3 inputs/outputs on my amp? Some say it is plugged in through the guitar? Bit confused here, thank you, love your channel!
No, you would need to feed a separate looper with a dedicated auxiliary mix from a mixer, run voice, guitar, stomp to that auxiliary channel. That way you have precise control over the level of each one. Output of looper goes to a separate channel in the mixer.
I've been using the Horse Kick Pro for a while for regular gigs, and it is good (once you get used to hitting it in the right place, and with a little bass boost), but it's started to go very quiet and buzzy and last gig wouldn't do anything but popping sounds. So by my experience it doesn't last long term with heavy use. I'm thinking of getting the SPD One in the hope that it can take more of a beating, plus I'm drawn by that softer kick sound for quieter songs
Thanks for the comments! Sad to hear, that the Horse Kick Pro doesn’t last that long… As far as I can say so far, the SPD One is pretty durable and sounds awesome. But as I said in the video: it slips easily. Much easier than the Horse Kick, which is a bit annoying at times.
Take it in to a shop and they’ll get it soldered and fixed in no time man! Of course the wiring in these pedals will eventually fall apart when you’re kicking the pedal every day 😂 The Horse Kick Pro is my back up and I use a Finhol Kick Box (sadly discontinued) as my main kick as I much prefer the tone of it
I was talking about the Roland. But I had the same issue with the Shadow - it picked up some of the steps on stage. But it doesn’t have a sensitivity knob - or any other knob for that matter. Didn’t have the issue with the HorseKick Pro. On the contrary, it was sometimes not sensitive enough and missed a beat.
This is really interesting. I play bass and want to do the afterbeat with my foot. Do you think I can plug it on a bass amp or is it for guitar amp, or do I need preamp? I like your video, thanks! Very useful!
Thanks for the great video bro. I play bass and I just bought the Horse Kick it sounds great together. My problem is the sensitivity of it is not as good as I thought.
Hey there! I own an ANNAlog (passive pickup), but it's a bit quiet for my purpose: I'm using a Roland Mobile Cube, and even when volume is on max, the kick sound still is not very loud. I wonder whether getting a Horse Kick would solve the problem, as it is an active unit (battery powered)? Can you confirm that an active unit is noticeably louder than a passive one? And is it possible to connect the Horse Kick directly to an 1/8" AUX input? Thank you.
Hi! I can confirm that it’s a lot louder than a passive one. I haven’t tried connecting it to a 1/8“ input and have sold it since, so I cannot tell you more about that. But the SPD Kick (kept that) works with 1/8“.
Man, I love your boots! No kidding ! What’s the brand ? I had the spd one which costs a fortune and I sold it because I couldn’t handle the dynamic of it . Sometimes it was too loud, other times it was too soft. Also, it wasn’t sold with the right usb cable and I never managed to load a user sample which really bugged me!
I agree with the comments about the ergonomic issue. Do a three hour gig and you’ll be barely able to walk . I don’t know what the solution is but they should have consulted a podiatrist fora better foot configuration.
I love the roland, but as you've indicated, the split feature is an issue. I suppose one could create a sort of device with cloth, leather, or bit carpet to solve the problem.
Thank you! Yes, I‘ve experimented with one of those. It didn’t work for me, because it needed lots of eq to sound decent and lacked bass frequencies on its own.
I use the SPD1, but I place a board in front so my foot is the correct height. The kick sounds on their own aren’t the best, but with some tweaks it’s not to shabby.
This video covered a subject that I was curious about. So thank you, but please consider increasing the master audio level. The entire video was very quiet.
Yeah! But you can add a custom sound to the SPD Kick, too. And there‘s also a different version of the SPD that you can fully customize with your own samples.
Why not customize the Roland with a detachable foot pad. As well as, rubber grip on bottom or velcro to another base altogether for the bottom of the kick pad That's one other user did. . Anyways, thanks, for the very informative review.
All those stompboxes have the wrong ergonomics. Toes high heel low. It will wreck your lower leg front muscle. Very unnatural. As if they all follow the first (wrong) design..
You don’t have to put your foot that way around. If you want to use your heel, go ahead. The horse kick, sitting in a chair, tapping your feet, you’ll find it very suitable. If you’re a guitarist, you’ll find that the SPD is much like any guitar foot pedal. And for that matter, if you’re a drummer, both high-hat and bass drum pedals are set up with heel as pivot and push down with toes.
i think it woud be more difficult to use if you are standing up. but sitting down i find i can stomp without stress. also can be used turned around, as someone above mentioned.@@makingmusiconline2309
I'm a guitarist and mostly stand while I play and sing. In our duo I either have no percussion, kick, or tambourine. I use a SPD One Percussion for a tambourine sound and analog Ortega Horse for kick. I keep both pedals behind me and hit with my heal. No fatigue. Also, with two pedals I never have to make adjustments which would be cumbersome. I tape both pedals down with Gaff tape at every gig to keep them from moving. I have considered using the SPD One for kick sounds. It sounds good enough to me.
Great video! Thanks for reviewing these.
Thanks! I‘m glad you find it useful :)
Thanks for your well done review. Good information to have before I purchase.
Thank you for this. It really helped me start figuring out whats out there.
Can you power the roland with 9V adapter?
I owned a horsekick by Ortega, and tried it with my acoustic duo. When we had a gig the sound technician of the event complained that our gear made a noisy hiss sound. I thought maybe cables or my guitar but it was the Ortega horsekick. Returned it and got a new one at my music store, but again at a different gig we heard an hissing sound (new pedal!) so if you’re playing live gigs this isn’t your best choice.
It made a hissing noise.😊
Thanks for this!
Thanks for the run through! Very well done!
Thanks for the kind comment!😊 I will keep the Roland SPD Kick by the way. I got a pretty good deal on it and found a way to keep it from moving so much. Sound-wise it’s without doubt the best option.
@@SimonSchuett Do you think it's better than the SPD :One wav? I like the idea of having unique sounds but the Kick has tone and FX controls which could be useful.
I only need the kick and percussion sounds and therefore didn’t look at the SPD Wav. But if you need more flexibility, I guess the Wav could also be a good fit. I don’t use the Reverb and Distortion very often.
Great review! I think I would go for the Roland, and maybe try to make some kind of mat for underneath it like the Shadow...
Thanks for the positive comment 🙏🏼 That’s exactly what I did! I used a knee pad for that and also glued some kind of rubber on the bottom to prevent it from slipping so easily.
Instead of the knee pad I‘m now using a thin Cajon seat pad underneath the stomp box which worked well during my last gigs.
How do I connect this to my acoustic amp (ACUS 8 FERDI)? I sing and pick acoustic guitar (D18/28) so do I need 2 or 3 inputs/outputs on my amp? Some say it is plugged in through the guitar? Bit confused here, thank you, love your channel!
Thanks for the demo!
Thanks for that review. To the point well done.
I wonder if I can use this in conjunction with a TC helicon play acoustic and looper😮?
No, you would need to feed a separate looper with a dedicated auxiliary mix from a mixer, run voice, guitar, stomp to that auxiliary channel. That way you have precise control over the level of each one. Output of looper goes to a separate channel in the mixer.
I've been using the Horse Kick Pro for a while for regular gigs, and it is good (once you get used to hitting it in the right place, and with a little bass boost), but it's started to go very quiet and buzzy and last gig wouldn't do anything but popping sounds. So by my experience it doesn't last long term with heavy use. I'm thinking of getting the SPD One in the hope that it can take more of a beating, plus I'm drawn by that softer kick sound for quieter songs
Thanks for the comments! Sad to hear, that the Horse Kick Pro doesn’t last that long… As far as I can say so far, the SPD One is pretty durable and sounds awesome. But as I said in the video: it slips easily. Much easier than the Horse Kick, which is a bit annoying at times.
Take it in to a shop and they’ll get it soldered and fixed in no time man! Of course the wiring in these pedals will eventually fall apart when you’re kicking the pedal every day 😂 The Horse Kick Pro is my back up and I use a Finhol Kick Box (sadly discontinued) as my main kick as I much prefer the tone of it
I've found the same but availability of Roland is scarce.. possibly due to its popularity. So hard to get!
Same, my horse kick pro died in less than two years...
Good review, thanks 👌
Thanks fot this review!!!
What Ortega understood and many other companies didn't is that you don't always have two inputs on your amp. It's as simple as that.
I play with a mixer , I got a bunch inputs lol
@@dannyveras I have to much sh*t to haul around without even having to take a mixer in consideration 😂
Thank you. Very helpful.
Do you think its a good idea to use spd one kick with v drum set such as roland td17-kvx? Instead of stock kd-10 pedal with beater ?
Thank You. Great Video.
I want a simultaneous tambourine and kick
Can u turn it around and use heel
Yes, sure you can! I don’t usually use it that way, because I have it on my pedalboard, but it works as well.
Have You issues With dobbelt kick. I have one and it some times makes dobbelt kick when my mate moves his feet or others walk on stage.
Yes, I‘ve had that issue as well. I think that is due to the sensitivity being set too high. But when you turn it down a bit, it should be fine.
@@SimonSchuett Thanks.
are all 3 pedals the same With this issue? Or is it worse With some of Them?
I was talking about the Roland. But I had the same issue with the Shadow - it picked up some of the steps on stage. But it doesn’t have a sensitivity knob - or any other knob for that matter.
Didn’t have the issue with the HorseKick Pro. On the contrary, it was sometimes not sensitive enough and missed a beat.
Well done.
Really Cool Sounds 🎶🎵🤘
This is really interesting. I play bass and want to do the afterbeat with my foot. Do you think I can plug it on a bass amp or is it for guitar amp, or do I need preamp? I like your video, thanks! Very useful!
Thank you! I usually plug it directly into the PA or into an AER acoustic amp, but I don’t see why it wouldn’t work with a bass amp.
Thanks for the great video bro. I play bass and I just bought the Horse Kick it sounds great together. My problem is the sensitivity of it is not as good as I thought.
Thanks 🙏 Yes, I remember it didn’t always react to lighter taps and have hear of this issue from others, too.
Hey there!
I own an ANNAlog (passive pickup), but it's a bit quiet for my purpose: I'm using a Roland Mobile Cube, and even when volume is on max, the kick sound still is not very loud. I wonder whether getting a Horse Kick would solve the problem, as it is an active unit (battery powered)? Can you confirm that an active unit is noticeably louder than a passive one? And is it possible to connect the Horse Kick directly to an 1/8" AUX input? Thank you.
Hi! I can confirm that it’s a lot louder than a passive one. I haven’t tried connecting it to a 1/8“ input and have sold it since, so I cannot tell you more about that. But the SPD Kick (kept that) works with 1/8“.
Thank you, that helps a lot, @@SimonSchuett!
Man, I love your boots! No kidding ! What’s the brand ? I had the spd one which costs a fortune and I sold it because I couldn’t handle the dynamic of it . Sometimes it was too loud, other times it was too soft. Also, it wasn’t sold with the right usb cable and I never managed to load a user sample which really bugged me!
Thank you, man! My boots are from a brand called Lasocki. Nothing special and rather cheap as far I remember, but I’m glad you like how they sound 😄
@@SimonSchuett a nice brown sound indeed 😅 thanks man
I agree with the comments about the ergonomic issue. Do a three hour gig and you’ll be barely able to walk . I don’t know what the solution is but they should have consulted a podiatrist fora better foot configuration.
Thanks bro good review
In decided to build my own.
Very well done demonstration and review. Thanks!
Thank you 😊
I love the roland, but as you've indicated, the split feature is an issue. I suppose one could create a sort of device with cloth, leather, or bit carpet to solve the problem.
Nice review. Have you ever tried any home made stomps?
Thank you! Yes, I‘ve experimented with one of those. It didn’t work for me, because it needed lots of eq to sound decent and lacked bass frequencies on its own.
Very good
I use the SPD1, but I place a board in front so my foot is the correct height. The kick sounds on their own aren’t the best, but with some tweaks it’s not to shabby.
Great, thanks much.
This video covered a subject that I was curious about. So thank you, but please consider increasing the master audio level. The entire video was very quiet.
It would be good if one of these connect to a vst then you can use any drum sound
Yeah! But you can add a custom sound to the SPD Kick, too. And there‘s also a different version of the SPD that you can fully customize with your own samples.
Why not customize the Roland with a detachable foot pad. As well as, rubber grip on bottom or velcro to another base altogether for the bottom of the kick pad That's one other user did. .
Anyways, thanks, for the very informative review.
For sure, that is what I would do.
Thanks dude!
Ortega keeps letting me down. I’ll take it for a gig works 1 out of 4 hits. Really screwing my performance. I hope I didn’t get a faulty one
Thanks, Bud.
Und warum auf englisch und nicht auf deutsch?
Please do ist with your feet , so you get a very good cayon bass drum on the horsekick pro... its not made for handclapping ! ;)
10:43 All easily fixed.
The Roland SPD will just not register a beat often
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The sound level on this vid is very low - ironically!
I know, sorry about that!
Thé Roland looks like it wil much better on a pedalboard fixed with scratch tape.
They need to learn how to draw a horse lol
Horse Kick Pro:
Bassdrumsound im Kick ne nervende Höhenpieck.
All those stompboxes have the wrong ergonomics. Toes high heel low. It will wreck your lower leg front muscle. Very unnatural. As if they all follow the first (wrong) design..
You don’t have to put your foot that way around. If you want to use your heel, go ahead.
The horse kick, sitting in a chair, tapping your feet, you’ll find it very suitable. If you’re a guitarist, you’ll find that the SPD is much like any guitar foot pedal.
And for that matter, if you’re a drummer, both high-hat and bass drum pedals are set up with heel as pivot and push down with toes.
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i think it woud be more difficult to use if you are standing up. but sitting down i find i can stomp without stress. also can be used turned around, as someone above mentioned.@@makingmusiconline2309
Yeah, they should've designed them to be a cavity instead of a box.
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