I remember as a keen 17 YO bike rider in 1981, reading Bill Sander's "Bicycle Racing Book" and all throughout Bill sang Greg's praises, saying he was the most talented cyclist the USA had ever produced and would one day win the Tour de France. Five years later...
You are such a great interviewer- just enough questions to get a detailed response from your guest. You, unlike other interviewers make the guest centre stage. Excellent channel
Thanks for tuning in pal. This is just the clips channel. I dropped a 2hour Lemond interview on the main channel yesterday which is worth checking out ua-cam.com/video/_kFSe3VxS10/v-deo.html
I remember them both at the finish in Alpe Duez..didn’t really understand it all at the time but that moment when they raised each others arms was the point i fell in love with the sport 👍
Thanks for this interview. I've waited decades for this. I've read all sorts of things about the 86 TDF, but there's no better source than to actually hear these spoken words from Lemond. There was a variety of social/sport politic going on here and it's finally cleared up for me. I always had a bad 'gut feeling' about Hinault and especially Tapie. Now I know was right. I'm a big Lemond fan and proud to say I own one of his La Vie Claire jerseys from this 86 TDF(the jersey with the Wonder batteries on the back - "GL" is marked in the neck - bought it from his mechanic - it's the HolyGrail to me). The 86 TDF has always been my favorite of all time.
Thanks for tuning in my friend. Just dropped a video I think you’ll appreciate, lemond talking about getting his start in cycling and why he quit ua-cam.com/video/_kFSe3VxS10/v-deo.htmlsi=8Gs7QJZrxcE8d4Gn
I was relatively young by the time, but I until recent years I did not have the feeling that cycling was so great as when Greg was riding. Fortunately we are now living great times again with people like Tadej or MvdP. Almost everything in the meantime can be missed in terms of spectacle.
I agree w/ Kochli in 85 - if Greg can drop Roche and win the stage and yellow than go for it (which is what Kochli specifically told Lemond during that stage per his interview in Slaying the Badger). But Kochli told Greg not to work with Roche to gain time on Hinault. For the team its better to be 1-2 rather than work with Roche and lose 2nd place and Kochli is managing the whole team, not trying to help Greg win a Tour. I do think Hinault specifically tried to screw Greg in 86 and he chose to do that, I don't think attributing it to Tapie is needed.
Yes but Lemond said that there was no way to know for sure if he could drop Roche. No rider could know that. It was insane for Kochli to set that condition.
How was he able to win the TDF, but struggled when he came back? There has always been doping in racing. EPO was a game changer when it came in, but prior to that riders were doing other things to gain an advantage. I find it hard to believe he took nothing tbh even if it was just to help with recovery after a tough day. Its literally the toughest sport on the planet and can’t see how anyone could win on bread and water alone. I’d go as far as to say its probably almost impossible to win it completely clean. Today everyone uses TUE’s, but we’d be foolish to think doctors and scientists aren’t finding new ways to beat the system. How are times still getting faster otherwise?
I guess you did'nt listen to the discussion. The team owner , along with the coach (and probably many other people of influence) told Hinault to disregard the promise he had made to Lemond.
I think you are being generous to Hinault. Hindustan should have ended up with 4 tours and Greg with at least 4 and possibly more if he hadn't been shot. The performance was there.
I must respectfully disagree. Hinault attacks; everyone else is obligated to chase; Lemond sits on them; Lemond wins. It was so frustrating watching John Tesch and the US press trash Hinault when he was being a perfect teammate. We Americans knew so little about race tactics back then; some of us still don't.
How could Greg had been so naïve about Hinault. That guy would have sold his own mother out to win 5 or 6 times. Never underestimate the other guy's greed!
So here I go. As an American watching 25 years of the TdF I have learned Phil " soap opera" Ligget has built controversy where there is no controversy. I have found myself for years turning off the sound so as not to hear his... well stupid comments, " the look" is one of them. I understand he feels he is building interest. His explaining a conversation between two riders working so hard in a break who have trouble just breathing. It's like listening to two woman chatting about a bike race but never sat on a bike before. I want an announcer to talk about the race, not the gossip and pot stirring the s,, it . Sort of like stick to the sport and not the chicken poop.
Ligget would turn every Frenchmen into some sort of Marvel supervillain, and every Englishman or American into a superhero (even Landis during his roid rage winning tour). It was quite ridiculous.
In my opinion, Greg Lemond is dishonest talking about the 1985 Tour de France : the crash of Hinault in Saint-Etienne changed everything. Without this incident and the hurt which resulted, Hinault would have dominated Lemond without any difficulty in the Pyrenees.
What BS he is talking Delgado rode for PDM in 86 not Reynolds bad memory. Lemond just tells lies if people think Armstrong is a sicopath then lemond has BPD and that’s bad enough, only talks about him self and blames everyone else of why he didn’t win races, still hold on 40 years later about races he didn’t win, puts the whole of cycling down as he has the best VO2 and no one would be better then me, FFS talk about egomaniacs. As for what he thought of Hinault in 86 if you get the French culture and how they are they work in different ways, Hinault was actually helping Greg become a champion he wasn’t going to give it to him on a silver plater, he wanted Greg to learn to fight for it why else would he attack when 5 min up no cyclists in the history has done that, Hinault made Greg go after it, it work with out Hinault doing this, Greg would have won 89 or 90. Greg still can’t see this, typical BPD border line personality disorder. Always blame others and they are never wrong. Oh yeah Bernard Tapie doped his whole soccer team up before the champions league final, so Greg was in the best doping cycling team at the time, Riders admitted to blood doping in the 70s and blood doping didn’t become illegal till 1986 he was taking every thing possible. didn’t his best mate David Walsh when asked who is the best rider you ever seen, he said Greg lemond that 1986 victory for him was like a Sunday ride in the park he just looked effortless, don’t people see the red flags here!! oh yeah they said the same about Armstrong looks effortless. 😅 Don’t trust this guy as far as you can throw him.
Yeah great to see yr not having an 🪓 to grind. Yeah all his ex team mates are lining up to tell us Lemond was Escobar. Oh you Lance fanbois make me chuckle. 😂
I know a guy who rode that tour and no he is not a Frenchman. I asked him about this 10 yrs ago. Hinault was a tough often grumpy guy but not one to screw over someone. Old school sort of guy he agreed to help Greg win the tour but not gift it. Help your kid do his homework but not do it for him. Simple as that. So sounds like you got that right. As far as doping goes I can't speak to that. What I can say is the person I talked to was still PLENTY fast long after his pro days!
I lost brain cells reading that. Someone didn’t like a yank dominating their sport. I’ll also take a guess you have no training or license to diagnose a psychiatric condition.
The 80s were the best decade for cycling ever and Greg was such a huge influence on so many of us. The guy's a legend, a monster and a gentleman.
I remember as a keen 17 YO bike rider in 1981, reading Bill Sander's "Bicycle Racing Book" and all throughout Bill sang Greg's praises, saying he was the most talented cyclist the USA had ever produced and would one day win the Tour de France. Five years later...
You are such a great interviewer- just enough questions to get a detailed response from your guest. You, unlike other interviewers make the guest centre stage. Excellent channel
Thanks for tuning in pal. This is just the clips channel. I dropped a 2hour Lemond interview on the main channel yesterday which is worth checking out ua-cam.com/video/_kFSe3VxS10/v-deo.html
I remember them both at the finish in Alpe Duez..didn’t really understand it all at the time but that moment when they raised each others arms was the point i fell in love with the sport 👍
Me too! A iconic image, a fantastic stage for an epic Tour!
Love these interviews of Greg LeMond! Keep them coming please! Also amazed by your knowledge of the Tour history.
Thanks for this interview. I've waited decades for this. I've read all sorts of things about the 86 TDF, but there's no better source than to actually hear these spoken words from Lemond. There was a variety of social/sport politic going on here and it's finally cleared up for me. I always had a bad 'gut feeling' about Hinault and especially Tapie. Now I know was right. I'm a big Lemond fan and proud to say I own one of his La Vie Claire jerseys from this 86 TDF(the jersey with the Wonder batteries on the back - "GL" is marked in the neck - bought it from his mechanic - it's the HolyGrail to me). The 86 TDF has always been my favorite of all time.
Have you watched the 2 part interview with Greg on our main channel? Just dropped part 2 a couple of days ago.
@@roadmanpodcastclips not yet. I will today. Thank you for what you do with these interviews.
You’re only hearing one side of it tbf. The others guys might see things differently.
Greg is the man...the reason I keep riding...at 58 😂😂😂
Really! Not the love of the bike. Really! Not the passion for the pave.
@commonsensethecynosure1639 please tell me if I'm wrong, but I think he was drug free as I'm
@@commonsensethecynosure1639 why cannot you love the bike, while cherishing the classic time in cycling? These are not mutually exclusive.
@@michaelhoile1369of course , saint Greg wouldn't dream of it .😂
Channel 4 1984-89 i watched these legends on the Tour.I chose football when i was younger over cycling,regret that.Great channel glad i found it👍🚴🏼
Thanks for tuning in my friend. Just dropped a video I think you’ll appreciate, lemond talking about getting his start in cycling and why he quit ua-cam.com/video/_kFSe3VxS10/v-deo.htmlsi=8Gs7QJZrxcE8d4Gn
what a great interview
Greg is the man.
Great interview. Looking forward to watching your others. 👍
ua-cam.com/video/_kFSe3VxS10/v-deo.htmlsi=eqYwiJwRcPwzK7RF
I was relatively young by the time, but I until recent years I did not have the feeling that cycling was so great as when Greg was riding. Fortunately we are now living great times again with people like Tadej or MvdP. Almost everything in the meantime can be missed in terms of spectacle.
The legend ☝️
Hinault le Blairot. The Badger. The greatest of all time! My Bretagne neighbour.
..TdF Paris TT...Aero bike/gear...lives long :)
I agree w/ Kochli in 85 - if Greg can drop Roche and win the stage and yellow than go for it (which is what Kochli specifically told Lemond during that stage per his interview in Slaying the Badger). But Kochli told Greg not to work with Roche to gain time on Hinault. For the team its better to be 1-2 rather than work with Roche and lose 2nd place and Kochli is managing the whole team, not trying to help Greg win a Tour.
I do think Hinault specifically tried to screw Greg in 86 and he chose to do that, I don't think attributing it to Tapie is needed.
Yes but Lemond said that there was no way to know for sure if he could drop Roche. No rider could know that. It was insane for Kochli to set that condition.
You broke your ADR agreement 😂
Sorry. Had to say it. Lol
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Lemond & Hinault & GOAT Green Jersey Sean Kelly was when Tour was at its best!
No doubt Lemond carried yhe great Hinault in his last victory
It would be nice to hear Hinault's side of the story.
Exactly. We’re only hearing things from Gregs pov. Doesn’t make that facts, just his perspective in things.
@11:00 Reminiscent of what Schwarzenegger did to Zane in the 1980 Mr. Olympia
How was he able to win the TDF, but struggled when he came back? There has always been doping in racing. EPO was a game changer when it came in, but prior to that riders were doing other things to gain an advantage. I find it hard to believe he took nothing tbh even if it was just to help with recovery after a tough day. Its literally the toughest sport on the planet and can’t see how anyone could win on bread and water alone. I’d go as far as to say its probably almost impossible to win it completely clean. Today everyone uses TUE’s, but we’d be foolish to think doctors and scientists aren’t finding new ways to beat the system. How are times still getting faster otherwise?
have Zipp and Enve hookless wheels for the past three years, super happy with them.
Hinault was a bit of a rascal. In his mind he probably thought he was testing Greg's worthiness.
I guess you did'nt listen to the discussion. The team owner , along with the coach (and probably many other people of influence) told Hinault to disregard the promise he had made to Lemond.
@@bellavia5 Thus Hinault was a jerk and not a man of his word !
@@steveeb9567 He did'nt have the backbone to say to his handlers " I made a promise and I intend to keep it".
I think you are being generous to Hinault. Hindustan should have ended up with 4 tours and Greg with at least 4 and possibly more if he hadn't been shot. The performance was there.
I must respectfully disagree. Hinault attacks; everyone else is obligated to chase; Lemond sits on them; Lemond wins. It was so frustrating watching John Tesch and the US press trash Hinault when he was being a perfect teammate. We Americans knew so little about race tactics back then; some of us still don't.
How could Greg had been so naïve about Hinault. That guy would have sold his own mother out to win 5 or 6 times. Never underestimate the other guy's greed!
Those who know, go Peugeot!
couldnt edit in the famous photograph you talk about for 2 minutes? 14:00
Can’t trust a frog.
So here I go. As an American watching 25 years of the TdF I have learned Phil " soap opera" Ligget has built controversy where there is no controversy. I have found myself for years turning off the sound so as not to hear his... well stupid comments, " the look" is one of them. I understand he feels he is building interest. His explaining a conversation between two riders working so hard in a break who have trouble just breathing. It's like listening to two woman chatting about a bike race but never sat on a bike before. I want an announcer to talk about the race, not the gossip and pot stirring the s,, it . Sort of like stick to the sport and not the chicken poop.
Ligget would turn every Frenchmen into some sort of Marvel supervillain, and every Englishman or American into a superhero (even Landis during his roid rage winning tour). It was quite ridiculous.
In my opinion, Greg Lemond is dishonest talking about the 1985 Tour de France : the crash of Hinault in Saint-Etienne changed everything. Without this incident and the hurt which resulted, Hinault would have dominated Lemond without any difficulty in the Pyrenees.
And if Atlanta scored one more time they would have won the Super Bowl.
What BS he is talking Delgado rode for PDM in 86 not Reynolds bad memory.
Lemond just tells lies if people think Armstrong is a sicopath then lemond has BPD and that’s bad enough, only talks about him self and blames everyone else of why he didn’t win races, still hold on 40 years later about races he didn’t win, puts the whole of cycling down as he has the best VO2 and no one would be better then me, FFS talk about egomaniacs.
As for what he thought of Hinault in 86 if you get the French culture and how they are they work in different ways, Hinault was actually helping Greg become a champion he wasn’t going to give it to him on a silver plater, he wanted Greg to learn to fight for it why else would he attack when 5 min up no cyclists in the history has done that, Hinault made Greg go after it, it work with out Hinault doing this, Greg would have won 89 or 90. Greg still can’t see this, typical BPD border line personality disorder. Always blame others and they are never wrong.
Oh yeah Bernard Tapie doped his whole soccer team up before the champions league final, so Greg was in the best doping cycling team at the time,
Riders admitted to blood doping in the 70s and blood doping didn’t become illegal till 1986 he was taking every thing possible.
didn’t his best mate David Walsh when asked who is the best rider you ever seen, he said Greg lemond that 1986 victory for him was like a Sunday ride in the park he just looked effortless, don’t people see the red flags here!! oh yeah they said the same about Armstrong looks effortless. 😅
Don’t trust this guy as far as you can throw him.
Yeah great to see yr not having an 🪓 to grind. Yeah all his ex team mates are lining up to tell us Lemond was Escobar. Oh you Lance fanbois make me chuckle. 😂
I know a guy who rode that tour and no he is not a Frenchman. I asked him about this 10 yrs ago. Hinault was a tough often grumpy guy but not one to screw over someone. Old school sort of guy he agreed to help Greg win the tour but not gift it. Help your kid do his homework but not do it for him. Simple as that. So sounds like you got that right. As far as doping goes I can't speak to that. What I can say is the person I talked to was still PLENTY fast long after his pro days!
I lost brain cells reading that. Someone didn’t like a yank dominating their sport. I’ll also take a guess you have no training or license to diagnose a psychiatric condition.