Restoring an IBM PC XT-286 from 1986

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  • Опубліковано 30 кві 2020
  • Cleaning, upgrading, and overall reinvigorating a vintage IBM computer system from 1986! The Model 5162 here is a bit of an uncommon beast at this point, combining the classic case design of the XT with the 286 internals of an IBM AT. Let's fix it!
    ● Pertinent linkage:
    / lazygamereviews
    / lazygamereviews
    / lazygamereviews
    ● Music courtesy of:
    www.epidemicsound.com
    #LGR #Hardware #Restoration
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  • @LGR
    @LGR  4 роки тому +437

    To answer questions about the Hardcard: as expected, it doesn't work.
    t.co/GK2oUEfzQJ
    Every single one of them I've come across are in need of various internal repairs. Hopefully I'll get around to fixing mine up someday, but it'll be a time-consuming and fiddly process that I'm not exactly rushing to get involved in, haha.

    • @crumpets2123
      @crumpets2123 4 роки тому +30

      Would love to see more on the Hardcard, have never heard of these, keep up the great work.

    • @amberselectronics
      @amberselectronics 4 роки тому +44

      I've had a couple that were jammed. I decided to open one of them and see if I could work the bearing loose. I set up a clean booth with filtration, got the cover off, and dropped my screwdriver straight onto the platter.
      But hey the drive spun afterward.

    • @DanielleWhite
      @DanielleWhite 4 роки тому +26

      I never knew the name but I dealt with some of the the generic competitor products in college. We had a lab of CompuAdd 286s with them. When I was there they were developing dead spots on the actuator motor and would get stuck if powered off in the wrong spot. While opening the case and moving the end of the shaft was the better temporary solution, we soon discovered a faster one which was probably not the best solution: raise the front edge of the system up about an inch and drop it, which would jostle it just enough to work.

    • @ajrhodes3262
      @ajrhodes3262 4 роки тому +4

      That's actually kind of sad

    • @trex70
      @trex70 4 роки тому +1

      Plz scan the Barcode on the backside

  • @veraxis9961
    @veraxis9961 4 роки тому +1125

    Clint,
    Some notes about the machine (the rusty one with the leaked battery): This machine belonged to my father, who worked for a law firm in New York. This would be the reason for the disclaimer notice on startup. It was not his personal machine at work-- according to him, computers for every employee was not the practice yet, and he says the machine was most likely used for word processing. As for what the hardcard was originally connected to, he does not know. Later, in about 1991, the firm sold off the machines to the lawyers for use as personal computers, and my father bought his for practice using computers as well as the installation of Word Perfect which came installed on the machine. This was his first personal computer at home. He says that he remembers installing the modem card himself, and using it for some early internet functions like Compuserve and possibly Prodigy.
    Also, I am bummed that you were unable to try it with the original amber display that came with it. I had hoped to see that, but regardless, my father and I were very pleased to see you were able to boot up the old hard drive. I did try powering up the motherboard once myself, and I did not see any explosions from the tantalums, but if I remember correctly, I think some of the power supply rail voltages may have been reading incorrectly, so I would assess the power supply to be sure. Thanks!

    • @Norweeg
      @Norweeg 4 роки тому +63

      This comment needs to be higher up! Thanks for sharing!

    • @DarkWiNKenzo
      @DarkWiNKenzo 4 роки тому +52

      that is awesome to actually now know from where the PC came from, i hope you are happy at the fact that this machine got to the right hands, because i am sure that this PC would not be used no longer if someone else had it.

    • @ScoopDogg
      @ScoopDogg 4 роки тому +35

      thanks for the update and great your Dads still with us. I lost my dad early in 1982 often wish he could see the power today's computers are at

    • @ScoopDogg
      @ScoopDogg 4 роки тому +5

      @@Norweeg agree : )

    • @The_Goose2
      @The_Goose2 4 роки тому +5

      Small world.

  • @beware_the_moose
    @beware_the_moose 4 роки тому +444

    We should take a moment to appreciate how those rear IO plates haven't changed in design at all since 1986.

    • @RiderLeangle2
      @RiderLeangle2 4 роки тому +83

      Truly a case of "If it ain't broke, don't fix it"

    • @aidancommenting
      @aidancommenting 4 роки тому +38

      Sadly, the same can't be said for Apple

    • @draxoronxztgs1212
      @draxoronxztgs1212 3 роки тому +48

      Those was I/O's has bin a standard since even on the IBM 5150 from 1981, so for almost after 40 years (if not already) theres no other change than the socket type for the bus and the tech on the card.

    • @034G63EVO
      @034G63EVO 3 роки тому +14

      @@draxoronxztgs1212 This makes me feel old. I was born in 81.... lol My first PC was a 286 16mhz when i was a kid, man how time flys!

    • @nickwallette6201
      @nickwallette6201 3 роки тому +15

      Not for lack of trying. IBM wasn't NEARLY as concerned with keeping things standard as they get credit for. If they had their way, we would've been migrating to MCA around the time this machine was in use, and no doubt would've moved on to three or four other form factors thereafter.
      In addition to not being overly sentimental about breaking existing standards, IBM also didn't have a real great sense of planning for forward compatibility. The PC's backwards compatibility over the years has been a product of LOTS of hacks (mostly credited to Intel, Phoenix, AMI, Award ... e.g., the A20 gate, virtual x86 mode, transitioning from real to protected mode, and the ever-growing library of BIOS extensions) plus the incredible force of momentum from all the other major and minor players in the market all benefiting from a known quantity to build off of.

  • @carslayer
    @carslayer 4 роки тому +222

    Hello Clint, I have pretty crappy hearing and so usually watch UA-cam with subtitles. I really appreciate all the work you put into captioning your videos, rather than relying on auto-generated ones. The in-jokes (excited chirping, clumsy fiddling, cautious laughter) are a wonderful touch.

    • @archygrey9093
      @archygrey9093 Рік тому +6

      I've just got really crappy laptop speakers lol, any kind of background noise drowns them out.
      Although working as a baggage handler at an airport for 3 years certainly did no favours for my hearing especially with the crappy $5 hardware store earmuffs they would give us.

    • @carslayer
      @carslayer Рік тому +4

      @@archygrey9093 Haha no way. I'm an aircraft mechanic and that certainly didn't help my earing either

    • @Oquadrinheiro
      @Oquadrinheiro 8 місяців тому +2

      In my case, I'm Brazilian and I don't understand someone speaking English, but I understand the subtitles

    • @_MrX82_
      @_MrX82_ 3 місяці тому +1

      Totally agree. The quality of these subtitles is very appreciated.

  • @InZane94
    @InZane94 4 роки тому +196

    Anyone else find old pc noises and old hard disk noises to be highly satisfying?

    • @alexsilva28
      @alexsilva28 4 роки тому +24

      Every person that watches LGR does

    • @VideoAmericanStyle
      @VideoAmericanStyle 4 роки тому +7

      Like just nearly anything following “Anyone else...”, yes, there are many many people who also find them satisfying.

    • @glenrea
      @glenrea 4 роки тому +2

      Had an Amstrad 1512 and 2 Zenith Data Systems running ST225 and ST238R drives back in the day. That chirping brings back memories.

    • @jakemueller7976
      @jakemueller7976 4 роки тому

      Idk kinda I grew up with Vista and,7

    • @luminumlx2604
      @luminumlx2604 4 роки тому +3

      i use them to fall asleep, my old 20gb seagate drive failed many years ago and when i go to sleep i plug it in on my bedside lol

  • @fortherecord1569
    @fortherecord1569 4 роки тому +272

    When those two PC's started booting up... I felt like I should hold on to something.

    • @bransonstevens5914
      @bransonstevens5914 4 роки тому +37

      Gotta love ancient PCs that sound like jet engines ready for takeoff xD

    • @EvilishDem0nic8732WhatItDo
      @EvilishDem0nic8732WhatItDo 4 роки тому +7

      I'll give you something to hold on to

    • @StCerberusEngel
      @StCerberusEngel 4 роки тому +8

      Hold on to your butts.

    • @joonasfi
      @joonasfi 4 роки тому +9

      @@StCerberusEngel it's a Unix system - I know this!

    • @hztm
      @hztm 4 роки тому

      Take your protein pills, and your helmet on !

  • @donbot5000
    @donbot5000 4 роки тому +637

    LGR: Starts bashing the battery compartment with the screwdriver.
    ME: HELL YEAH NOW WE'RE RESTORING!

    • @bransonstevens5914
      @bransonstevens5914 4 роки тому +56

      Percussive Maintenence :)

    • @CadillacHobo
      @CadillacHobo 4 роки тому +30

      Just a little tappy, tap, tap.

    • @rickyrigatoni
      @rickyrigatoni 4 роки тому +23

      Reconstruction must be preceded by destruction.

    • @Jessica-el5yx
      @Jessica-el5yx 4 роки тому +17

      As someone who lives in England, believe me when I say that's the only way to get anything to work in this country.

    • @sventobergte845
      @sventobergte845 4 роки тому +10

      @@CadillacHobo This Confuser needs a little tappy tap tap, because all the angry pixies flown out of the Batarieas - AvE

  • @mikedelyea8336
    @mikedelyea8336 4 роки тому +78

    I love the sound of that startup. It seems to say "Hang on to your hat, the engines are reaching FULL POWER"!

  • @I_am_Allan
    @I_am_Allan 4 роки тому +276

    Everyone else: "Gotta wash my dishes in the sink."
    LGR: "Gotta wash my IBM in the sink, with slow sensual music."

    • @DamnedSilly
      @DamnedSilly 4 роки тому +4

      The Noir sound track goes with the tobacco residue on the one cover.

    • @mctv6486
      @mctv6486 4 роки тому +4

      i wonder what would happen if you call microsoft tech support about windows 3.1

    • @mctv6486
      @mctv6486 4 роки тому

      @Jeffery Amherst im 14 aint got no phone

    • @__Mr.White__
      @__Mr.White__ 4 роки тому

      Anybody knows the song at 19:30?

    • @aidancommenting
      @aidancommenting 4 роки тому +1

      @@mctv6486 Everyone I know has a phone, but I can understand your point because I actually got a BlackBerry like two years ago, and finally upgraded to an LG. Half my family still uses flip phones.

  • @RetroRynn
    @RetroRynn 4 роки тому +236

    "Hey newer computer, can you tell me the time and date so I can tell it to this older computer?"
    Flerpelnerp: "yes"

    • @erik365365365
      @erik365365365 4 роки тому +1

      Ryan is that an amazon echo he is using or is the a google nest?

    • @BaneMcDeath
      @BaneMcDeath 4 роки тому

      I was like ????? I want to know what that is as well. Did he say 'hey affordable nerp?"

    • @jnbsp3512
      @jnbsp3512 4 роки тому +3

      Not affordable nerp, Flerblenerp

    • @harakiwi
      @harakiwi 3 роки тому +2

      What's my purpose?
      Tell me the time!

  • @IanThatMetalBassist
    @IanThatMetalBassist 4 роки тому +179

    I caught that Technology Connections reference at 9:07

    • @Fazer_600
      @Fazer_600 4 роки тому +25

      An Excellent Reference - Chef Excellence.

    • @MyBlogsTV
      @MyBlogsTV 4 роки тому +4

      Spaced Invader ayy ashens reference

    • @poble
      @poble 4 роки тому +15

      that brown video was so mindblowing lol

    • @TheLeggedOne
      @TheLeggedOne 4 роки тому

      I thought it was an RCR reference

    • @TorutheRedFox
      @TorutheRedFox 4 роки тому +2

      ah yes references

  • @timtaylor8305
    @timtaylor8305 4 роки тому +2

    My wife is deaf and I watch these with her sometimes, your captions {computer loudly whirls to life} is great!

  • @crossproduct9782
    @crossproduct9782 4 роки тому +12

    Those stepper motor hard drives make such a distinctive sound, they're recognizable anywhere. At some point, one got sampled into a sound effects collection and you hear it all the time in movies and video games (including Black Mesa, most recently). Every time I hear it, I get this nostalgia flashback as a teenage nerd sitting in front of my dad's Mac Plus in like 1986.

    • @thegeforce6625
      @thegeforce6625 4 місяці тому +1

      The drive used in those stock sound effects is a Seagate ST225

  • @onirtnec183
    @onirtnec183 4 роки тому +41

    Wow. From my birth year.
    My dad worked at IBM Germany at this time (30 years in all). Bringing home 'old' Computers from there. Sadly he died 5 month ago

    • @alphenllc
      @alphenllc 4 роки тому +5

      I'm sorry.

    • @Underwatches
      @Underwatches 4 роки тому +3

      well, be thankful he did what he could to make you happy!

    • @onirtnec183
      @onirtnec183 4 роки тому +4

      @@Underwatches he fully Suceeded ✌💘

    • @devent10n
      @devent10n 4 роки тому +5

      I'm sorry for your loss. My dad died 13 years ago, & I miss him every day. Much love your way.

    • @rugxulo
      @rugxulo 4 роки тому +4

      Much respect to him for all of his good work. 👍👍

  • @Marsc9013
    @Marsc9013 4 роки тому +74

    It warms my heart to see somebody giving a shit And taking care of older hardware

    • @wohlhabendermanager
      @wohlhabendermanager 4 роки тому +2

      Yes. So much hardware just got thrown out and left to rot, it always makes me sad.

    • @blackterminal
      @blackterminal 4 місяці тому

      ​@@wohlhabendermanagerso many crt monitors were dumped. Rush to new technology then later people miss what they remember. Human nature.

  • @smbcollector
    @smbcollector 4 роки тому +29

    I don't even have a particular interest in computers, but I find a lot of your content satisfying, especially this one.

  • @DenSporetrix
    @DenSporetrix 4 роки тому +78

    "Hey Alexa, i've decided to that your name is now Flerpelnerp"
    Flerpelnerp: D:

    • @tomypower4898
      @tomypower4898 4 роки тому +1

      Sporetrix disk failure in the old pc version

    • @derpsakry4464
      @derpsakry4464 3 роки тому +6

      its one way to stop viewers alexas go off

    • @glaucorocha1281
      @glaucorocha1281 3 роки тому +1

      not sure, but this may well be an old english word for some weird middle-age concept.

  • @macrophage6311
    @macrophage6311 4 роки тому +492

    Subtitles: [Classy Computer repair music]

    • @retropuffer2986
      @retropuffer2986 4 роки тому +8

      needs this: [sound of fingers sexily caressing vintage computer hardware]

    • @cinnerthecinnamonroll5578
      @cinnerthecinnamonroll5578 4 роки тому +9

      This Genre exists?

    • @EvilishDem0nic8732WhatItDo
      @EvilishDem0nic8732WhatItDo 4 роки тому +20

      Love Caption Eastereggs on videos. Watched a video where it was english but Australian related and had the aussie lingo as an option lol

    • @ferhound
      @ferhound 4 роки тому +1

      Wtf with the subtitles!

    • @jeyendeoso
      @jeyendeoso 4 роки тому +16

      [nervous chuckles]
      [chill reassembly beats]
      [windows utopia startup sounds]
      these captions today are golden. i dont know why my were on, but im glad they were.

  • @teemofie
    @teemofie 4 роки тому +74

    When I was 10/11 I came home from school to find my dad sat in the living room surrounded by these machines. Not a one of them worked! He gave up and gave me a screwdriver and let me have at it.
    It took me a week of guesswork, stripping and swapping parts before I finally had 2 working machines! And I joined the PC master race and left my poor old Amiga to rot.

    • @aaabatteries9948
      @aaabatteries9948 4 роки тому +3

      when you were 10 u fixed computers? Get out of here you were probably still eating your own boogers.

    • @teemofie
      @teemofie 4 роки тому +14

      AAA Batteries When I was 6/7 I was programming in basic writing basic loops (and I tiny bit of assembler on 8 bit machines in the UK) I wouldn’t call what I did a “fix” I just swapped parts back and forth until I managed to get 2 working! It was rare for my father to let me loose with a screwdriver as I’d gotten an original game boy for Xmas a year or so before and took it apart on Boxing Day! 😂 So I was banned from screwdrivers! In the UK in the 80s computer literacy program was HUGE we got taught basic in Junior school (from 5-11 years old).

    • @teemofie
      @teemofie 4 роки тому +9

      AAA Batteries And just for the record, nothing says you can’t fix a computer and eat boogers... they even make a good mini stressball when installing dos for the 28th time because I’d messed up my autoexec without backing it up and didn’t know how to fix it! Hahahahaha

    • @marciomaiajr
      @marciomaiajr 4 роки тому +9

      @@aaabatteries9948 Back in the 80's it was common for kids to learn programming early on. When I was 8 I took Basic classes and I cant forget it because the teacher asked us to draw a swastika using the Basic line draw commands. Lol...

    • @SpearM3064
      @SpearM3064 4 роки тому +5

      @@aaabatteries9948 That was not as uncommon as you think. I was programming in assembly language when I was 10.

  • @bitwize
    @bitwize 4 роки тому +13

    Oh, man. Hearing that CRT ring when he powers up the monitor... it's like wince-stalgia.

    • @UNSCPILOT
      @UNSCPILOT 3 роки тому +3

      as a kid who grew up threw the early 2000s, I am starting to miss the sounds of CRT
      I wonder if I can find a functioning one somewhere in my area, even a small one would work...

    • @blackterminal
      @blackterminal 4 місяці тому

      ​@UNSCPILOT Get one. Nothing like having at least one near you.

  • @HoLeeFuks
    @HoLeeFuks 4 роки тому +14

    The power up sounds is so nostalgic i actually miss these sounds like the floppy chatter.

    • @UNSCPILOT
      @UNSCPILOT 3 роки тому

      makes me want an effects unit for my new system to just pretend to be an ancient computer, HDD noises, startup and all

  • @RetroSpector78
    @RetroSpector78 4 роки тому +132

    Love how everyone who has them keeps saying how rare they are, and then casually shows 2 of them :) Lovely machines, but prefer the look and feel of the AT. But always great to see an old IBM restoration process !

    • @GuybrushThriftweed
      @GuybrushThriftweed 4 роки тому +5

      Says the one with also 2 :p

    • @eddiehimself
      @eddiehimself 4 роки тому +10

      Check out this lad's channel if you're into old PC restoration videos btw.

    • @PilkScientist
      @PilkScientist 4 роки тому +3

      yeah, but every time that happens and they restore it, there's one less now

    • @LGR
      @LGR  4 роки тому +16

      Hey, thanks for watching @RetroSpector78! Your own 5162 videos were an inspiration to finally tackle this project.

    • @RetroSpector78
      @RetroSpector78 4 роки тому +5

      LGR I am humbled sir .... glad you got it up and running. Nice machines. I have a garage full of these types of projects that I want to finish up one of these days. Like you said in the video, it sometimes takes a lot of time to get these things done, but through the magic of editing it always seems like this was just a quick 20 minute project ;)

  • @itaybron
    @itaybron 4 роки тому +85

    One of these days were going to witness Clint restore a mainframe

    • @jayhill2193
      @jayhill2193 4 роки тому +39

      and have them print out "farts" on punch cards

    • @NostraDavid2
      @NostraDavid2 4 роки тому +12

      @@jayhill2193 I can already hear him giggle.

    • @nickwallette6201
      @nickwallette6201 4 роки тому +3

      Probably AkB.. Tech Tangents first. :-)

    • @colombianguy8194
      @colombianguy8194 4 роки тому +3

      Do you already checked courious marc channel?, if not, he and his GENIUS friends restore an IBM 1401, a Xerox Alto, and the Apollo guidance computer.

  • @PistonAvatarGuy
    @PistonAvatarGuy 4 роки тому +2

    THAT'S THE SOUND!!!! I've been looking for a video of a HDD that sounds like that for AGES! That's exactly what my XT sounded like, I DEEPLY regret selling it.

  • @amberbutitta7261
    @amberbutitta7261 4 роки тому +24

    7:58 That's a re-badged AcuMOS AVGA card! Good performers, those! Also, they derive their clock from the ISA bus clock, so they're somewhat overclockable. One of the fastest 16-bit ISA VGA cards made.

    • @JovinRepairs
      @JovinRepairs 2 роки тому

      I was just thinking this same thing. I have an AcuMos in my ISA video card inventory.

  • @gentuxable
    @gentuxable 4 роки тому +413

    LGR turns on two IBMs
    Whole city: Did the light just got dimmer or is it me?

    • @rwdplz1
      @rwdplz1 4 роки тому +19

      My IBM 5150 actually will not run on GFCI circuits

    • @jackkraken3888
      @jackkraken3888 4 роки тому +15

      Where we're going we don't care about TDP.

    • @awilliams1701
      @awilliams1701 4 роки тому +4

      can't be any more power than my 2014 volt takes.

    • @KiraSlith
      @KiraSlith 4 роки тому +15

      Amusingly, at the chip level old computers actually run more efficiently power-wise than the average desktop i5. It's just the awful power factor and efficiency of the power supplies that pumps up the power draw.

    • @Akotski-ys9rr
      @Akotski-ys9rr 4 роки тому +1

      I was expecting the safety switch to trigger

  • @carrollmontgomery
    @carrollmontgomery 4 роки тому +202

    "A lot of these are made by Kraft". They missed a huge opportunity by not manufacturing the Mac n' Cheese PC.

    • @DavidWonn
      @DavidWonn 4 роки тому +12

      Kraft also missed an opportunity later in the mid 1990s with the Macarena.
      Then again, that might’ve extended the lifespan of that particular song, so perhaps it was for the better that they didn’t.

    • @ThePilgrums
      @ThePilgrums 4 роки тому +1

      Yeah, Project Blue Box got scrapped. A real shame...

    • @richkawaiipikachu
      @richkawaiipikachu 4 роки тому +7

      @@DavidWonn There was a sceensaver called "Macaroni" where a hole bunch of animated macaroni dancing to the tune of Macarena.

    • @DavidWonn
      @DavidWonn 4 роки тому +1

      richkawaiipikachu I was unaware this existed. I suspect its popularity peaked around the time of the song ('96?)

    • @summerlaverdure
      @summerlaverdure 4 роки тому +3

      the Macintosh n' Cheese

  • @hotlavatube
    @hotlavatube 4 роки тому +27

    I'm reminded of when my dad powered up an old full-height scsi hard drive he was testing. It sounded like a prop plane starting up. Womp womp womp womp womp whirr whirr whirrr...

  • @johnpriceuk
    @johnpriceuk 4 роки тому +16

    IBM build quality in the 80s was just something else, talk about 'over-engineered' !!

    • @UNSCPILOT
      @UNSCPILOT 3 роки тому

      Honestly I crave some over engineering in modern gear, so many things feel flimsy or underwhelming to hold, or break themselves internally due to shooty parts that die from normal usage

  • @padawanmage71
    @padawanmage71 4 роки тому +115

    "What day is it? I honestly didn't know.."
    You and the rest of us, Clint.." =P

    • @desther7975
      @desther7975 4 роки тому +1

      I woke up thinking it was Saturday already. Good thing I work at home!

    • @Tinker001
      @Tinker001 4 роки тому

      @@desther7975 Doesn't EVERYBODY these days?

    • @aidancommenting
      @aidancommenting 4 роки тому

      Technically, it's already Saturday.

    • @glossymouse7712
      @glossymouse7712 4 роки тому

      Scott Miller No. A ton of people are “essential workers” and cannot work from home. For example what if you work at a store, how will you work from home?

  • @donk2c
    @donk2c 4 роки тому +281

    LGR: does literally everything
    That one panel: *bro I’m outta here*

    • @carnivorebear6582
      @carnivorebear6582 4 роки тому +5

      That will be fixed with a good tug and the adhesive that follows

    • @Walczyk
      @Walczyk 4 роки тому

      huh that panel was fine by the end?

    • @ctwilli0950
      @ctwilli0950 4 роки тому +1

      Gen Z memers, no one will understand...

  • @CMDR_John_Crichton
    @CMDR_John_Crichton 4 роки тому +51

    12:06
    "Hey Flurblenurp, what time is it?"
    "It's 11:08"

    • @Veezyjung
      @Veezyjung 4 роки тому +5

      A fine name for an AI assistant.

    • @daMgame19
      @daMgame19 4 роки тому +1

      I couldn’t tell if it was the Google Assistant or Alexa, probably Alexa though because you can change the wake word on it unlike Google

    • @redpup6931
      @redpup6931 3 роки тому +1

      @@daMgame19 Definitely Alexa

  • @ecarter2747
    @ecarter2747 4 роки тому +3

    This brought back so many memories of my IBM XT 8088 as a teenager (which I really wish I could have held on to, but life got in the way). A very impressive restoration. Loading "Wheel of Fortune" was the icing on the cake.

  • @RetroSpector78
    @RetroSpector78 4 роки тому +26

    Is it just me or is it simply amazing how this 35+ year old tech just switches on and continues to just chug along. Besides the odd tantalum cap exploding or hard drive failing, most of these old IBMs simply work after setting them up again. Even with these old MFM hard drives I’ve had a decent success rate. Great pieces of engineering.

    • @thomasneal9291
      @thomasneal9291 4 роки тому +5

      MFM drives were like tanks. I could often get ones that were ten years old going again no problem.

    • @redmage777
      @redmage777 4 роки тому +7

      Computers in general don't wear out from age so much as they become obsolete. The Hardware of most computers if will continue to work so long it isn't subject to unreasonable abuse. Software may need to be reinstalled and unfortunately some of the media it is recorded on does degrade...

    • @zdanee
      @zdanee 4 роки тому +8

      Sectors are so big on those you can drill a hole in the platter and tell the head to just go around and all you loose is 1 bit of data.

    • @zdanee
      @zdanee 4 роки тому +2

      @@redmage777 That's mostly true to old equipement that doesn't require cooling, since the most usual failing point is the solder, and when something heats up to 90C then back down to 20 several times a day for years and years, that will kill the joints after a time. So your new shiny Macbook Pro will be in the garbage in a decade tops, while these machines will still work just fine.

    • @RetroSpector78
      @RetroSpector78 4 роки тому +4

      @@redmage777 There were some periods like the early nineties (first gen leaky electrolytic SMD caps) and late nineties (bad quality / cheap leaking / bulging electrolytic caps) that gave PC manufacturing a bad rap.

  • @ctre97
    @ctre97 4 роки тому +81

    That little Windows Movie Maker cutaway music made me laugh pretty hard

    •  4 роки тому +14

      It's from Utopia Windows sound scheme (included first with Windows 95).

    • @CaveyMoth
      @CaveyMoth 4 роки тому +5

      LGR's editing has improved significantly

  • @demonic477
    @demonic477 4 роки тому +9

    when you started both of the systems it sounded like the job center I went to in the early 90's . that unmistakable back ground drone from the power supply's would fill a room fast when you had ten IBM's going at once

  • @Ferg13
    @Ferg13 3 роки тому +2

    I just started watching your videos not to long ago. This one so far is my favourite. I’ve been into computers since 2000. Self taught. Can be very frustrating at times but in the end if it all works out. That’s the reward. Love seeing these old pc’s still living. Keep up the awesome job. I still have lots to learn. And over learn lots In little time I’ve began watching your videos. And I’ll keep watching as king as you out then out there.

  • @StevenIngram
    @StevenIngram 4 роки тому +18

    It never ceases to amaze how fast Planet X3 is on just about anything under the sun. LOL

  • @xxoanna603
    @xxoanna603 4 роки тому +83

    I'd love to hear more about those Hard Cards and (hopefully) see one in action in a future LGR Video or Blurb!

    • @TheLegoPerson
      @TheLegoPerson 4 роки тому +2

      Me too!

    • @EvilishDem0nic8732WhatItDo
      @EvilishDem0nic8732WhatItDo 4 роки тому +4

      *BLURB* *MAUUUUUUUU*

    • @benh.635
      @benh.635 4 роки тому +1

      Would be fun to try sticking an SSD in one of those Hard Cards. Not really anything practical, but would certainly be fun if possible! :3

    • @EvilishDem0nic8732WhatItDo
      @EvilishDem0nic8732WhatItDo 4 роки тому +2

      @@benh.635 right!

    • @benh.635
      @benh.635 4 роки тому

      @@EvilishDem0nic8732WhatItDo In a way the Hard Card does live on with the ISA cards that can hold CF cards and such

  • @LovingMyJourney
    @LovingMyJourney Рік тому

    I don't understand a lot you talk about, but I still like to watch. I like computers, but I'm not knowledgeable about electronics. I bought my first computer in '93 and have loved them ever since.

  • @TheTweakshot
    @TheTweakshot 4 роки тому +1

    Hi LGR, I found your video of you visiting that computer place in Dallas, I really like how you talk about old shit you find and I can tell you have a passion for sharing your thoughts/opinions/information. I don't delve into stuff that pre-dates the early 90's but I was excited along with you opening these things up and seeing just how easy they are to fix with the large traces, large chips of silicon. I liked listening to the sounds of retro hardware/software, it all sounded like it means business

  • @vwestlife
    @vwestlife 4 роки тому +79

    The slow but musical-sounding Seagate ST-225 is one of the most reliable hard drives ever made. But the huge, clunky ST-4038... not so much. I don't think I've ever come across a fully working one. They draw so much power that they like to burn out resistors on their circuit board.

    • @douro20
      @douro20 3 роки тому

      I have a ST-4096 and it works very well. It took a few power cycles to get it to unlock the first time but it hasn't given me any trouble ever since.

    • @KameraShy
      @KameraShy 3 роки тому +1

      Still have my ST-225

    • @douro20
      @douro20 2 роки тому +1

      @@KameraShy I have one as well. It is in storage along with the mating controller.

  • @Birdassasin
    @Birdassasin 4 роки тому +20

    >vid starts with subtitles on
    >*classy computer repairing music*
    ....okay, I chuckled at that

  • @rickseiden1
    @rickseiden1 4 роки тому

    So many memories! From the sound of them booting up to the cramped space inside the case. The through hole architecture. The (resulting) physical size of everything. I mean, that disc controller was enormous! It was just so much fun watching this video. Thanks so much!

  • @nerysk3255
    @nerysk3255 4 роки тому +1

    The final result is incredibly satisfying. It looks brand new.

  • @taya86334
    @taya86334 4 роки тому +40

    I love it when the panel keeps falling down

    • @SpearM3064
      @SpearM3064 4 роки тому +1

      It looks like someone had merely hot-glued it, and over time the glue dried up and wouldn't hold the panel in place.

    • @tomypower4898
      @tomypower4898 4 роки тому

      Edward Cai oh yees! is diet

  • @TheLegoPerson
    @TheLegoPerson 4 роки тому +46

    Wahoo! I love watching these classic computers get the love they deserve, restoration videos are always welcome!

    • @konstantingrujevski7358
      @konstantingrujevski7358 4 роки тому +3

      Yea!

    • @zanite8650
      @zanite8650 4 роки тому +2

      I really like when he replaces the older parts with shiny new ones. E.g. the screws for the floppy disk drive.

    • @TheLegoPerson
      @TheLegoPerson 4 роки тому +1

      @@zanite8650 me too! It's very satisfying

  • @saturn580
    @saturn580 4 роки тому +4

    That hard drive needs to put out a mixtape. 🔥

  • @whoremoan6841
    @whoremoan6841 4 роки тому

    I had one of these. It was my very first PC that I bought off someone I worked with in about 1991. Brought back a lot of memories.
    My Hard Disk made exactly the same noise!
    Awesome video.

  • @jamesmcdonough854
    @jamesmcdonough854 4 роки тому +21

    The hard disk bring back memories of working a lab full of those machines in the early 1990's
    I recall playing karateka and doing lotus 123 and Word Perfrect.

    • @kingneutron1
      @kingneutron1 4 роки тому +1

      WordStar and COBOL ;-)
      / still kinda miss 123
      // but not their blasted copy protection

    • @jamesmcdonough854
      @jamesmcdonough854 4 роки тому +2

      I recall the college I worked for the early 1990's. At that time people were doing COBOL and asembly Language for y2k. I used 8088's. with No hard drives. if you used 5 1/4 inch floppy drives hard disks were not as available back then. You were not guaranteed to have a hard disk in the computer that you were sitting at. Networking was rare too. You tubers who own vintage systems today have really pimped them out. If you were lucky you had a hard drive. A good chunk of that time you eather had cga or hurcules graphics and two 360k floppy disk. I do recall using a pc Jr network in the middle school Library . I regret I wasn't able to do COBAL

    • @aidancommenting
      @aidancommenting 4 роки тому

      I dunno if this counts as vintage, but I'm in the midst of building a retro gaming system. As of now I've got an ASUS M2N32-SLI Deluxe Wireless Edition motherboard, an Athlon 64 X2 5200+, 4GB DDR2, and a GT730 (I didn't have anything better and thought I'd at least get decent graphics.) I just lost a hard drive tho, granted it had a long ten years of life. Bought a new one and threw Windows 10 Pro back on it (I was dualbooting with Ubuntu 18.04 LTS before the drive died) and I'm currently setting up all my VMs again.

    • @aidancommenting
      @aidancommenting 4 роки тому

      Forgot to mention I also threw a Creative Sound Blaster PCI CT4810 in there. Not sure what model it is, only reason I installed it in the first place was because my Windows 98SE VM was feeding me errors with the sound driver.

    • @MrJest2
      @MrJest2 4 роки тому +1

      I ran a software QA lab for a famous but now defunct company. There's nothing like those sounds....

  • @Mad3011
    @Mad3011 4 роки тому +79

    13:22 I like that this has become a meme

    • @raggededge82
      @raggededge82 4 роки тому +14

      When the Beck graphic appeared I cracked up

    • @thinygamer9408
      @thinygamer9408 4 роки тому +1

      Where is that sound actually from though?
      I've definitely heard it before

    • @poble
      @poble 4 роки тому +8

      B E C K

    • @Mad3011
      @Mad3011 4 роки тому +8

      @@thinygamer9408 It's a default Windows sound. The joke is a reference to Clint's previous video.

    • @Schwarzorn
      @Schwarzorn 4 роки тому +1

      I almost cried. Hahaha

  • @Mr3ff
    @Mr3ff 4 роки тому

    Watching you restore computers, giving them a good cleaning, getting excited about getting them powered up... it really soothes my soul. Thanks always, Clint.

  • @eggburtjones3333
    @eggburtjones3333 4 роки тому +2

    Lovely restoration... the XT cleaned up beautifully and runs a champion! I love the simplistic, no-nonsense design of this era of machines... there’s something just so satisfying about the XT/AT/PS2 design and I’d love to build a sleeper in one if I could get a case.

  • @andi
    @andi 4 роки тому +50

    There's really nothing better than a 37 minute LGR video on a Friday :D

  • @davidewhite69
    @davidewhite69 4 роки тому +6

    unbelievable the prices fetching for these, thirty two years ago my work sent fifty of them to the tip when we got brand new 386s, if only we kept them, we'd be rich!

  • @DarkestAngel2ndCh
    @DarkestAngel2ndCh 2 роки тому +2

    We have such compatiable all around hardware that is so fast and plays everything... Watching the older hardware and seeing all it took to get it running, the cords, the cards, the connections, all the floppies, even some machines used special ram, it's just so fascinating to watch the process of getting these older machines to run proper

  • @Not-Great-at-Gaming
    @Not-Great-at-Gaming 4 роки тому +13

    Back in the day, my friend played that version of Wheel of Fortune so much, he knew all of the answers as soon as they appeared. I think there were only a about 200 puzzles.

  • @dan3a
    @dan3a 4 роки тому +94

    flat head screw : disintegrates
    LGR : Ok let's take the allen driver
    Allen part of the screw : *DISINTEGRATES*

    • @suborbitalprocess
      @suborbitalprocess 4 роки тому +17

      LGR with the angle grinder: You're coming off. _That's not a request._

    • @amirpourghoureiyan1637
      @amirpourghoureiyan1637 4 роки тому +2

      @Marginally Sapient Cactus It wasn't on and it's already survived decades of neglect so I don't think it would've hurt to drill through the old screws, as in some cases it will create less mess than a dremmel

    • @qwave54
      @qwave54 4 роки тому +1

      @@suborbitalprocess [scene missing] Okay, we'll take that off later.

    • @HappyBeezerStudios
      @HappyBeezerStudios 4 роки тому

      he could also just disintegrate the rest of the screw.

    • @amirpourghoureiyan1637
      @amirpourghoureiyan1637 4 роки тому

      @@HappyBeezerStudios the rust extended to the bottom case so he's gonna have a bad time removing the power supply

  • @d1zzypaw
    @d1zzypaw 4 роки тому

    This was so nice and relaxing and educational, as always. Had a stressful week, so this was much needed! Those old computer noises are heavenly. These were a bit before my time but they remind me so much of childhood computers and the comforting noises they make. A nice place to go back to with how things are now!
    I need to find a good resource for cleaning products to use when cleaning electronics. Want to open up some old consoles and clean em up a bit.

  • @punkmeisterjeff3638
    @punkmeisterjeff3638 4 роки тому +1

    Thank you LGR for bringing back to life the technology of yesterday. I really enjoy your videos! Keep it up man! :D

  • @FoxyLittleNuggets
    @FoxyLittleNuggets 4 роки тому +19

    The sound of that keyboard brings back so many memories from working on one in my office back in the lat 80s!
    You could use that keyboard as a bat'leth!

    • @e.s.l5861
      @e.s.l5861 4 роки тому +1

      David Coulter hahaha your comment was appreciated by all the alpha-nerds watching
      It sure made me chuckle

    • @clackmannan
      @clackmannan 4 роки тому

      I still use on a daily basis :)

    • @aCivilServant
      @aCivilServant 4 роки тому +1

      I use the IBM Model M keyboard as shown in the video as my daily driver. Really good IBM quality.

  • @mkelly0x20
    @mkelly0x20 4 роки тому +76

    > 30 Minutes Later
    [Windows ME Music]
    heheheh

    • @ketonblaziken
      @ketonblaziken 4 роки тому

      With a couple frames of BECK

    • @fredcommandeur8809
      @fredcommandeur8809 4 роки тому

      I think that piece of music was a fragment of tetris 4000 by starting a level, then you hear that same music part.

  • @deitybob
    @deitybob 4 роки тому +3

    It's 2 in the morning, and I am watching Clint wash his cases in the sink.

  • @daveinthailand
    @daveinthailand 3 роки тому +1

    Great video, my first PC my mate showed me this PC and I offered him my Amiga as a swap he looked at me like I was stupid he agreed and ran out of the house with my Amega I was more than happy because I always wanted a PC and you could get more pro packages wow this brings back memories I think I would love one now for nostalgia

  • @rastusbojangles
    @rastusbojangles 4 роки тому +59

    that hard drive looks like it would survive reentry into the Earth's atmosphere

    • @catriona_drummond
      @catriona_drummond 4 роки тому +1

      I had one of those exploding at me a few days ago. Tantalum capacitor...

    • @kingneutron1
      @kingneutron1 4 роки тому +3

      I remember replacing the original 20MB disk on my 286 clone with 100MB - probably paid over $120 for it back in the day
      I. Jones: " IT BELONGS IN A MUSEUM! "

    • @MrJest2
      @MrJest2 4 роки тому

      Old Seagates are the bomb. I swear they will run forever if you treat them nice.

    • @randywatson8347
      @randywatson8347 4 роки тому +1

      It could kill an elephant.

    • @Filip_Phreriks
      @Filip_Phreriks 4 роки тому +1

      @@kingneutron1 What did you need so much capacity for?

  • @JTCgmail9
    @JTCgmail9 4 роки тому +10

    Boy are those machines A-blast from my past. Those of the 1st P c's I actually repaired when I got into computer repairs. Thanks for the video in memory lane run.

  • @stridermt2k
    @stridermt2k 4 роки тому

    Very enjoyable!
    I think you got a taste of the best and the worst with those machines, but VERY glad it worked out for you!
    The results speak for themselves. THANKS!!

  • @celebratelife865
    @celebratelife865 Рік тому

    This is such a beautiful video. Thanks for making it. Just getting into old computers and I love seeing your content. So freaking cool. 🎉

  • @eumoria
    @eumoria 4 роки тому +259

    "Hey Flerpelnerp"
    ...excuse me?
    :::Flerpelnerp Answers::
    ...k

    • @troyBORG
      @troyBORG 4 роки тому +1

      how do you set that up?

    • @stevenA44
      @stevenA44 4 роки тому

      @@troyBORG Yea I'd like to know what that is and how to do that as well.

    • @Grimm-Gaming
      @Grimm-Gaming 4 роки тому +4

      @@stevenA44 Google home lets u call it whatever u want vs Alexa wont listen to anything you ask.

    • @stevenA44
      @stevenA44 4 роки тому +1

      @@Grimm-Gaming Well, looks like I'm going to have to get me a Google Home then! My Alexa is dumb as hell sometimes! LOL

    • @Grimm-Gaming
      @Grimm-Gaming 4 роки тому

      @@stevenA44 Same thats y i disabled it on my Sonos soundbar

  • @ggezlol-
    @ggezlol- 4 роки тому +38

    Clint "I have two of them"
    I would expect nothing less sir

  • @ToTonyProductions
    @ToTonyProductions 4 роки тому

    Great job! Looks fresh off the PC showroom floor. Have been a fan for a few years now. Gotta start participating more in the new videos. Always appreciate what you do!

  • @tripdefect87
    @tripdefect87 4 роки тому

    Love your restoration/upgrade videos Clint. Hope to see more

  • @macro820
    @macro820 4 роки тому +29

    "I like the way it snaps." Spoken like a true killer

    • @aidancommenting
      @aidancommenting 4 роки тому +2

      Not to mention the way he chuckles in every video, lol

  • @drew8235
    @drew8235 4 роки тому +47

    3:41 My actual reaction when anything goes wrong on my computer.

  • @johnnylochs6704
    @johnnylochs6704 4 роки тому

    @LGR The subtitles are fantastic “Chill assembly music” “whirs loudly to life” great stuff!

  • @TheSilent333
    @TheSilent333 4 роки тому

    What a fantastic find, and a great video! Stay safe, and please keep them coming!

  • @JL3001
    @JL3001 4 роки тому +6

    Laughed out loud @ the Windows Me noise and the Beck graphic from that CLASSIC movie used at 13:23.

  • @christopherlange4475
    @christopherlange4475 4 роки тому +29

    ibm was probably using overstock of xt cases up to make these "bargin" 286's

    • @LGR
      @LGR  4 роки тому +9

      That's a popular theory, actually! It's never been proven though.

    • @c128stuff
      @c128stuff 4 роки тому +2

      @@LGR I was at IBM in the late 80s, on the PC (or by that time mostly PS/2) side of things. Nobody there has ever been able to explain this one to me.

  • @Dnosirrom
    @Dnosirrom 4 роки тому

    These retro restoration video's are cathartic, thank you.

  • @BentleyWilkinson
    @BentleyWilkinson 4 роки тому

    That happy smile after cleaning everything and setting it up made my day!

  • @Lee01Mr
    @Lee01Mr 4 роки тому +6

    Aaahhhhh a relaxing video with a cup of tea, thank you Clint!

  • @GzeeBRII
    @GzeeBRII 4 роки тому +91

    Dad always asks me: "Why do you have so much computers?"
    Dad will never understand the pleasure in making then race against each other.
    The only race where the slower gets the prize

    • @SoKette
      @SoKette 4 роки тому +1

      "Of course this 20 year old can run 5 miles ! But what about this 103 year old grampa ?" ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)

  • @fullis
    @fullis 4 роки тому

    Thanks @LGR i have had XT 286 for 2 years now waiting for project. Now i got it from storage, hit dos bootdisk in and gsetup. everything was working like charm after that... Now waiting for new cmos battery.

  • @AkosJaccik
    @AkosJaccik 4 роки тому +22

    Ah, HDD Instant Type 2. The good stuff.

  • @joerig96
    @joerig96 4 роки тому +6

    Damn 1991, remind me a lot of my middle school years, playing those late 80s - early 90s dos pc games with 286 IBM compatible machine 😎✌️

  • @Stolkie1337
    @Stolkie1337 4 роки тому +3

    Can I just say that every time one of these videos gets released my hearts skips a beat of happiness and excitement. Something that feels normal and like home in times that absolutely nothing is normal 😂

  • @rommelgalicia7283
    @rommelgalicia7283 4 роки тому

    Awesome video once again Clint! Had fun watching the restoration of these classic computer! Looking forward to more vintage PC restorations bro'! Anyway, stay safe (due to COVID-19), more power, and God bless from the Philippines!

  • @fensoxx
    @fensoxx 4 роки тому

    Dude.. Been a longtime viewer and this was one of your best videos imho. Thank you!

  • @aquilux-vids
    @aquilux-vids 4 роки тому +8

    For that rusted case, look into getting some evapo-rust. They've got a liquid you can immerse things in and a gel you can spread. Does a great job of dissolving away iron corrosion and at least the liquid can be used more than once.

  • @Madness832
    @Madness832 4 роки тому +16

    Haven't watched this dude in awhile, but I still think he sounds like either a used car salesman or a game show host!

  • @champ666ZA
    @champ666ZA 4 роки тому +1

    beautiful startup sounds. the floppy sound especially gave me huge nostalgia.

  • @cooloutcoexist
    @cooloutcoexist 4 роки тому

    I saw so many old PC restoration videos by yourself and some other UA-camrs over the years at this point, still can't figure out why it is so satisfying to me. Please keep it up, let me waste away my life like this. I don't regret it at all :-D

  • @TheKreAt0r
    @TheKreAt0r 4 роки тому +13

    Soon as video start, hears first LGR Foods music. Gets confused as to why I'm hungry, except looking at vintage pc

  • @rsp6549
    @rsp6549 4 роки тому +11

    The Navy bought 10's of thousands of those. I remember them well.

  • @Yamigata
    @Yamigata 4 роки тому

    I'm so glad your channel exists. Thank you for your videos

    • @LGR
      @LGR  4 роки тому

      Thank you for watching!

  • @rOSScOGITANS
    @rOSScOGITANS 3 роки тому

    i love your mission, restoring old tecnology there is memory , respect for the origins and a real understanding of our world

  • @thejackal007
    @thejackal007 4 роки тому +9

    Now every time I hear that sound at 13:23, I think of that goofy video with the kid crawling through the tube (and Beck).

  • @yuanchiwang
    @yuanchiwang 4 роки тому +8

    The profile picture finally comes alive.

  • @AFishNamedBob
    @AFishNamedBob 4 роки тому +1

    WOW Hearing that Wheel of Fortune start-up music instantly took me back to being a kid!!! Thank you for that.

  • @nikebafe
    @nikebafe 3 роки тому

    Really brings up the memories.. my first computer but with monochrome screen.. Mother bought it for my 11th or 12th birthday, i remember i couldnt get sleep cause of excitement and in the morning straight from bed switching big red button and browsing through Norton Commander playing games like Prince of Persia, Eagle, Street Rod and others. Eventually i start to neglect school and mother locked PC lock and hide keys but i found the way to open it with the casing of a pen. Tnx Clint for your effort reviving those childhood feelings.