my GO TO EVERYDAY fragrances right now...(perfumes I actually wear)

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  • @Coastalhamptonstyle
    @Coastalhamptonstyle 2 місяці тому +132

    Next video should be “Biggest Dents” in my perfume collection (perfumes that are halfway).

  • @adabunny5212
    @adabunny5212 2 місяці тому +62

    I would actually be interested in hearing more of your "fresh, clean, out of the shower scents", the market is so overfed with gourmands (I love them) and I need a palate cleanser LOL I'd like to know the good ones!!!!

  • @scentedbeauty
    @scentedbeauty 2 місяці тому +46

    Love your darker hair!!!

    • @chiefgl1161
      @chiefgl1161 2 місяці тому +3

      Perfectly compliments your beautiful eyes❤

    • @Nessescapades
      @Nessescapades 2 місяці тому +4

      Color’s so gorgeous on her

  • @lilagood1963
    @lilagood1963 2 місяці тому +10

    I have enjoyed seeing your tastes evolve over the years! I can say my taste aligns with your preferences these days ❤️

  • @glennanderson8267
    @glennanderson8267 2 місяці тому +36

    Aventus for her is seriously underrated it smells incredible!

    • @giammydedo6767
      @giammydedo6767 2 місяці тому +2

      Unfortunately, the persistence is very low

  • @cindyo6298
    @cindyo6298 2 місяці тому +12

    I'm obsessed with Orpheon now, it's so smooth. I've also gotten into Diptyque in the last year. Also, I really like your makeup.

    • @archodiatsoulakidou129
      @archodiatsoulakidou129 2 місяці тому

      Same, I love love love Orpheon! But I recently bought Diptyque's Christmas fragrance set and fell in love with Fleur de Peau as well!🥰 Thinking of buying it in the Christmas edition.

  • @keonilee777
    @keonilee777 2 місяці тому +21

    The GOAT of the fragrance community is backkkk

  • @karin191
    @karin191 2 місяці тому +9

    Another amazing fresh aldehydic fragrance - Frederic Malle Iris Poudre!
    I'm wearing Orpheon today. 😀 Tres Chère is one of my HGs! I need to try some of the others you mention, though I wore enough Chanel No 5 in my younger days. 🙂
    Thanks for continuing to create content, Demi! I love these top ten fragrance videos.

  • @Journeyofamomdoc
    @Journeyofamomdoc 2 місяці тому +8

    Yes Demi is the OG
    Everyone else is trying hard to match her … but it can’t happen
    Love the dark hair too ❤
    You brought back my love for fragrance …

  • @AScentedSoul
    @AScentedSoul 2 місяці тому +6

    Aventus for Her is such a good floral musky scent that no one ever knows what it is. But they always really like it. I repurchase for me for sure.

  • @Sophie-Emotion-Scented
    @Sophie-Emotion-Scented 2 місяці тому +24

    Fleur de Peau is the most melancholic fragrance I've ever smelled. It reminds of of profound heartbreak on a cloudy, grey Parisian morning / mourning. It's a compelling scent, but the mood is so powerful, I don't think I could ever buy a bottle.

    • @demirawling
      @demirawling  2 місяці тому +3

      That description is so perfect. I totally agree with you 🥹♥️

  • @AfonsoDC
    @AfonsoDC 2 місяці тому +7

    Great advice for N5 Eau Premiere! Persistence is key to broaden our taste.

  • @natashaarnfield2788
    @natashaarnfield2788 2 місяці тому +1

    I am currently wearing Aventus for her a lot recently and I love it especialty in this cold crisp weather. I am loving Blanche Bete too recently, as it is so comforting. I think it depends on mood , occassion and weather. Thanks for the video and your hair looks fabulous 😊

  • @tinastanley9215
    @tinastanley9215 2 місяці тому +4

    Love the darker brown hair, btw. You look amazing young lady!

  • @kristinfragrances
    @kristinfragrances 2 місяці тому +2

    Loooove all these recs thank you so much. Especially Sur Tes Levres I can’t wait to smell it one day 🤎

  • @noora1214
    @noora1214 2 місяці тому +2

    Was surprised not to see Delina or La Rosee in there :) it was the first perfume I bought after following you and must admit I’m still in love with!

  • @japhie5755
    @japhie5755 2 місяці тому +6

    6 years ago you talked about Très Cher so I bought it and like!!! Thanks!!!

  • @haolieu3884
    @haolieu3884 2 місяці тому +6

    Love Cozy (warm hug) perfumes, now for me: Glossier you, Love delight, Accident a la vanille, Sweet praline, Hundred silent ways and X, Intense café, atomic Rose.
    Chic moments: dama bianca, Valaya, Gabrielle essence,…

  • @applepie1021
    @applepie1021 9 днів тому

    Demi, one of your best videos! Thank you. :)

  • @Gloria0667
    @Gloria0667 2 місяці тому +6

    Orpheon and Parade are on constant rotation for me too. They’re perfect day to day fragrances. 😊

    • @nicolettagilardoni9455
      @nicolettagilardoni9455 2 місяці тому

      I just bought the holiday edition of Orpheon; I find it really light and I can't smell it even after 12 sprays. Maybe they have changed the composition....

    • @Gloria0667
      @Gloria0667 2 місяці тому +1

      @ oh no! Mine will last for hours and while the scent is not as strong the longer I wear it, I will get whiffs throughout the day. I bought my bottle last December.

    • @nicolettagilardoni1557
      @nicolettagilardoni1557 2 місяці тому

      Thanks, 😊 ​@@Gloria0667

  • @pauledmonds4141
    @pauledmonds4141 2 місяці тому +1

    We’re always doing really well when the new Demi video drops. As always, Demi paints a beautiful visual tapestry in her description. And I always come away knowing a little bit more about perfumery❤

    • @demirawling
      @demirawling  2 місяці тому +1

      Thank you so much Paul! 🥹♥️

  • @mandaxleslie
    @mandaxleslie Місяць тому

    Demi never recommended a bad scent. The best ❤

  • @isabelisabel6796
    @isabelisabel6796 2 місяці тому +3

    Demi, you are absolutly right.....Sur Tes Levres, by Dominique Ropion, Maison D,orsay , its amazing i have mine and i love this fragrance, its a gorgeous , creation of Dominique Ropion,very elegant,chic, my everyday scent.

  • @natpaler883
    @natpaler883 2 місяці тому +8

    Demi, can you please do a video about how do you test a new fragrance and decide to buy it. The whole process, from online research, stepping into the store and try it for the first time etc. 🙏

    • @demirawling
      @demirawling  2 місяці тому +6

      Honestly I just go the mall and smell fragrances! Whatever I like I test on my skin and if I like the evolution I’ll think about buying. Usually I try to source from a discounter if it’s possible then I’ll purchase. For me it’s all about discovery not trends. ❤

    • @almatoledo1608
      @almatoledo1608 2 місяці тому +1

      Great suggestion!

  • @kendallcooper1075
    @kendallcooper1075 2 місяці тому

    i am SO glad to see you talking about 1957!!! i’ve been talking about this perfume for so long and i feel like it’s such an underrated gem!!! to me it’s like glossier you, but make it chanel!

  • @stephanienelly90
    @stephanienelly90 Місяць тому

    I love Chanel no 5 l’eau and No 5 EDT!
    Absolutely stunning scents.❤

  • @kendallcooper1075
    @kendallcooper1075 2 місяці тому +2

    demi pls pls pls try musc outreblanc by guirlain! at first you may think it’s just another powedery classy musk BUT after it really adjusts to the skin, this really delicate milky note comes through and adds such a subtle sweetness but it’s still so clean and classy i truly feel like you’d love it! i didn’t think i needed it and then my bf got it for me and i’ve gone through half the bottle lol!

  • @melindagenitempo2359
    @melindagenitempo2359 2 місяці тому +2

    Great lineup of chill vibe fragrences. Would love to see a best of the house video.

  • @VanessaMaddoux
    @VanessaMaddoux 2 місяці тому +5

    You were the first person I heard talking about Orpheon. I likely would have never stopped to smell it had you not recommended it. However, I was in Saks recently and once I smelled it, it was an immediate buy. Like… okay, I want that one, now ring me up!❤❤❤❤❤

    • @archodiatsoulakidou129
      @archodiatsoulakidou129 2 місяці тому +1

      Same! Bought Orpheon after one of Demi's videos! 😊

    • @majas841
      @majas841 2 місяці тому

      Can you please compare it with something else (at least in same direction) for us who would like to blind buy it possibly?

    • @archodiatsoulakidou129
      @archodiatsoulakidou129 2 місяці тому +1

      @@majas841 I honestly can say it doesn't remind me of any other perfume. That's why I love it so much! I would describe it as the most elegant, light woody perfume I've personally ever smelt. It smells powdery (not the cloying type), woody/earthy, clean (but not soapy), and you also get the hint of the jasmine, all balanced in a very sophisticated way in my opinion. It's not one of the beast mode fragrances, projection is moderate, but honestly a very classy fall fragrance, which I personally see myself wear most time of the year (very easily in the UK). I think it is definitely quiet luxury!

    • @VanessaMaddoux
      @VanessaMaddoux 2 місяці тому +1

      @@archodiatsoulakidou129 great description. Definitely quiet luxury. I don't have anything that smells like it. It's clean without being soapy. Maybe more on the airy herbal side but not especially green. Hard to explain. I could have blind bought this and been happy but I am glad I smelled it first.
      It will be a year round fragrance for me.

  • @jennrossotti8920
    @jennrossotti8920 2 місяці тому +2

    I smelled Imagination for the first time on someone else this weekend and it really is that good.

  • @xSBAx
    @xSBAx 2 місяці тому +1

    Hi Demi, I always look forward to your recommendations and favourites as you always introduce me to some amazing fragrances. I’m definitely picking up a few from this list. Thank you ❤ all the very best health and happiness to you Demi ❤

  • @delphihanna2618
    @delphihanna2618 2 місяці тому +2

    I hope you also are doing well... you are shining....and keep shining! 😍♥️

  • @michaelbullock8011
    @michaelbullock8011 2 місяці тому +2

    Great video and I enjoyed it and me and my wife are going to try these fragrances and have a blessed day

  • @Cubalibre-v6b
    @Cubalibre-v6b 2 місяці тому +5

    I absolutely adore Chanel 1957 ❤

  • @juliettirina6829
    @juliettirina6829 2 місяці тому +6

    I am obsessed with Comète by Chanel.

  • @waterbase7
    @waterbase7 2 місяці тому +1

    This hair color is so beautiful on you😍

  • @leilaadam6531
    @leilaadam6531 2 місяці тому +1

    Finally demi I have been waiting for a new video ,I keep going to UA-cam to check 🤔,here you are so happy watching you ❤❤

    • @demirawling
      @demirawling  2 місяці тому +1

      awh you’re so kind! Thank you 🥹♥️

  • @AbbyBlissWhite
    @AbbyBlissWhite 2 місяці тому +1

    THANK you for sharing! We have such similar tastes and it is just fun to see what you are wearing and loving! I have all the same scents except for 2! LOL! Love them all and now have 2 other ones to get my nose on! I hope you are doing well, Demi! xoxo

    • @demirawling
      @demirawling  2 місяці тому +1

      Thank makes me so happy to hear! Thank you so much Abby. Hope you’re doing well too 🥹♥️

  • @ScentsforJoy1122
    @ScentsforJoy1122 2 місяці тому +1

    Hi Demi !! Nice to see you 💜 I love Orphéon and Fleur de Peau 💜

  • @almatoledo1608
    @almatoledo1608 2 місяці тому

    I live in a cold 🏜 and I recently discovered Caffe Amore: the debut spray is delicious and the dry down gorgeous vanilla as in a special Baking shop spicy vanilla. Cold weather is a must for it.

  • @cafeespresso8345
    @cafeespresso8345 2 місяці тому +1

    Of course you would hope people are having a great day. I’m not sure why people say anything weird to you. You’re always going to hope the best for people! Keep doing you you’re doing great

  • @DrewBuckler
    @DrewBuckler 2 місяці тому

    I went through 200ml of Immagiantin while working in Italy over the summer! I adore it and LOVE the discounted refill price.

  • @marie-eveanctil7953
    @marie-eveanctil7953 2 місяці тому

    I need fleur de peau on my collection and at moment i always wear l’eau papier and i’m obessed by this perfume ❤❤❤

  • @sweetpeace5
    @sweetpeace5 2 місяці тому +1

    Thanks for the update on Soleil Neige in the parfum as I’m a huge fan of the original (as I’ve gushed before) was curious about the new ones performance because that’s the sad part- it’s definitely lacking in the original. Good I have big bottle & travel sizes to freshen up❤

  • @lubnaalsaati5364
    @lubnaalsaati5364 2 місяці тому +1

    I have been wearing Imagination since 2021. I love it

  • @mikaylajohnson5170
    @mikaylajohnson5170 2 місяці тому

    Chanel Eau Premiere has been my favourite for years and I’ve been babying my bottle because I thought it was discontinued; only recently learned that is was relaunched! Wearing a dozen sprays today lol

  • @natalieloy3668
    @natalieloy3668 2 місяці тому

    Your descriptions are incredibly helpful, thank you. Loved the vibe of this video 🎉

  • @MKK-wg7fz
    @MKK-wg7fz 2 місяці тому +1

    I have a large bottle of Aventus for her. It’s stunning however it’s strange how different one bottle is to the next. I had one that was more resinous & I preferred it and this bottle has quieter resins but very pungent Apple notes. I especially love grabbing a jacket or sweater that has Afh on it from a day or two prior. It dries down so beautifully.

  • @anitabotha3398
    @anitabotha3398 2 місяці тому +3

    Love Aventus for her and layered with Casilli

    • @demirawling
      @demirawling  2 місяці тому +1

      Oooo that sounds amazing! I have to try it 😍♥️

  • @nishani3
    @nishani3 2 місяці тому +1

    Great to see you, Demi!

  • @insaneandvain6188
    @insaneandvain6188 2 місяці тому

    Thank you for mentioning Fleu de Peau….this was a love at first smell for me ..and I own over 6 bottles

  • @magdieus
    @magdieus Місяць тому

    The Aventus for Her dent is extra impressive because imho it requires fewer sprays. I really love it.
    I found Imagination very under whelming, but I can barely smell ambroxan. Ah, now I get it.

  • @lovli31
    @lovli31 2 місяці тому +1

    Hey Demi!❤❤ absolutely love Chanel 1957😊

    • @demirawling
      @demirawling  2 місяці тому

      Yes!!! Its so beautiful 🥹♥️

  • @FayeCNL
    @FayeCNL 2 місяці тому

    Fragrance certainly captures a mood 💓

  • @justanotherfraghead
    @justanotherfraghead 2 місяці тому

    Orpheon has been on my rotation For well over two year! So the recent hype around it makes me feel like my best kept secret has been exposed 😅😂 I’ve been sampling Parade and Soleil neige recently and I love both❤ + I’m also loving the Celine cologne francaise, bright and fresh and perfect for the hot Singapore weather!

    • @demirawling
      @demirawling  2 місяці тому

      Hahaha me too !!! I bought it in Paris last year before the hype so I’m sad too 😅 thank you for your comment 🥰♥️

  • @esscitaaa
    @esscitaaa 2 місяці тому +1

    if you crave imagination, please try luis vuitton LOVERS!!!! it has that addicting smell as well

  • @naty9948
    @naty9948 2 місяці тому

    So happy to see the UA-cam perfume queen getting into perfume tiktok 🙌🏻

  • @Deem57
    @Deem57 2 місяці тому +1

    Your hair is lovely and really set off your eyes.

  • @cesar1836
    @cesar1836 2 місяці тому

    Hi Demi, love the video and audio quality ❤❤❤❤, flawless, Aventus for her sounds delicious, you have a great test, ❤❤❤❤

  • @jessqf9633
    @jessqf9633 2 місяці тому

    Love this video❤❤❤ and your hair colour is beautiful 😍

  • @IATH12
    @IATH12 2 місяці тому

    Your hair looks so good!
    Curious to hear your thoughts on House of Bo

  • @joannabukowska2198
    @joannabukowska2198 2 місяці тому +1

    Demi, it would be fantastic if you made d'orsay house overview :*

  • @riomointi9902
    @riomointi9902 2 місяці тому

    I can’t stop wearing 1957 on top of Molecule 01 to zhuzh up the performance.. or wearing it with Le Lion, Jersey, Boy, or Coromandel ♥️

  • @titadgraillet458
    @titadgraillet458 2 місяці тому +5

    I used to hate Chanel no 5, but i dont know if it’s that i’m older haha or what happened but now i reallly like it

    • @analove9453
      @analove9453 2 місяці тому +2

      The Leau version is so good

    • @cindyo6298
      @cindyo6298 2 місяці тому +1

      I like the Premier version

    • @analove9453
      @analove9453 2 місяці тому +1

      @ i love that one too my first flanker was the premier and i bought the body oil which was amazing they still have it

    • @demirawling
      @demirawling  2 місяці тому +1

      Me too!!! 😂❤

    • @mrscluedo7597
      @mrscluedo7597 2 місяці тому +1

      You should try Calèche soie de parfum by Hermès! It’s so beautiful with strong Chanel n°5 vibes 😍

  • @anac2314
    @anac2314 2 місяці тому +1

    I love your hair!
    What color is this?
    Looks fierce and gorgeous.

    • @demirawling
      @demirawling  2 місяці тому +2

      That’s so sweet thank you!!! Actually this is my natural colour but my hairdresser put in a toner to match my roots while I wait for the blonde to grow out 😫 I can ask what the colour is next time I go! ❤

  • @DarwinShortsYT
    @DarwinShortsYT Місяць тому

    I love these fragrances alot

  • @laurabouman9279
    @laurabouman9279 2 місяці тому +6

    Fleur de Peau❤❤❤❤ I only wear this for months now! I love it so much, so beautiful❤

  • @salmanqureshi9893
    @salmanqureshi9893 2 місяці тому +2

    Super superb awesome maam always killer looks 🔥💯

  • @salmanqureshi9893
    @salmanqureshi9893 2 місяці тому +3

    May God bless u always 🙏

  • @Studio8Worx
    @Studio8Worx 2 місяці тому +1

    I got Reptile from Celine...awesome scent

  • @candiezcm
    @candiezcm 2 місяці тому +1

    Love ur vid! Could u help recommend bridal perfume? My signature scent is Delina Exclusif 💗🥰

  • @malcatavalentim
    @malcatavalentim 2 місяці тому

    Hi Demy I only discover Orpheon now, and I’m in love ❤❤with

  • @salmanqureshi9893
    @salmanqureshi9893 2 місяці тому +1

    Awesome video maam always 😊

  • @ReneeBrown-c7n
    @ReneeBrown-c7n 2 місяці тому +2

    Imagination is amazing! I purchased it off of your previous recommendations and it’s soooo good!

    • @demirawling
      @demirawling  2 місяці тому +2

      Awh yay! That makes me so happy to hear. It’s absolutely incredible 🥹♥️

  • @SparkleinSac
    @SparkleinSac 2 місяці тому +2

    What do you mix tres chere with?

  • @TheTopNote
    @TheTopNote 2 місяці тому

    So many great ones in this list. Lovely to see D’Orsay getting some love, I bought Vouloir être ailleurs last summer, a gorgeous linden blossom scent and cannot wait to dig it out again in the warmer months over Christmas!

  • @dakikmister10
    @dakikmister10 2 місяці тому

    Demi you are the GOAT! Question, I purchased aventus for her and it has the gold bottle like yours. However, I’ve seen other bottles with white caps. Any ideas or thoughts on this?

  • @laurajebe3362
    @laurajebe3362 2 місяці тому

    Good category!
    You look great

  • @TonnyRespect
    @TonnyRespect 2 місяці тому

    French scents is something else... Diptyque, S. Lutents, F. Malle are unique, timeless, elegant and classy. Diptyque isn't really my cup of tea bc I find them too soapy so I have just samples. Wear them from time to time to treat myself.

    • @demirawling
      @demirawling  2 місяці тому +1

      Exactly!! I adore so many French brands 🤌🏼♥️

  • @yahainHotPink
    @yahainHotPink Місяць тому

    Thank you Demi.

  • @Wynter84
    @Wynter84 2 місяці тому

    Over The Musk is the besttttt

  • @salmanqureshi9893
    @salmanqureshi9893 2 місяці тому +2

    Diptque Best 😊

  • @TonnyRespect
    @TonnyRespect 2 місяці тому

    Jacques Cavallier-Belletrud, the perfumer of Louis Vuitton is a true master. He also designed Noir de Noir and many other great scents. One of my favourite designers.

    • @demirawling
      @demirawling  2 місяці тому +1

      He is an incredibly talented perfumer ♥️

    • @TonnyRespect
      @TonnyRespect 2 місяці тому

      @ I just remembered, he’s the creator of Bvlgari Tygar, it’s just a masterpiece and blows my mind away 😍

  • @mustafaquraishy2392
    @mustafaquraishy2392 2 місяці тому

    @Dewi Rawling
    Could you please do a video 10 fragrances for the rest of my life for 10 or Top ten men colognes of all the time. I would really appreciate it.

  • @jasnatumbas
    @jasnatumbas 2 місяці тому

    Fleur de Peau has the same vibe as DG Feminine a parfume that I loved sooo much 25 years ago😅

  • @elbamessuti5925
    @elbamessuti5925 2 місяці тому

    Dear Demi any suggestion for fragrance to travel and also combine them for night,with other fragrance , so I wont take with me so many frangances . Thank you ❤

  • @analove9453
    @analove9453 2 місяці тому

    Love your reviews i love fragrance and some of the fragrances you talk about ive never heard about so its nice to see something different
    Just got discovery set from celine in LOVE PARADE!!!!!!!

  • @eiko-tropicana
    @eiko-tropicana Місяць тому

    Can you also talk about good affordable fragrance that’s long lasting ?

  • @paulbeatty4859
    @paulbeatty4859 2 місяці тому

    EAU DE COLOGNE FROM THE LES EXCLUSIFS IS ALSO A BEAUTIFUL SCENT.

    • @TheSmokey1523
      @TheSmokey1523 2 місяці тому

      Agree 👍 it’s also got very decent lasting power for a citrus heavy freshy

    • @analove9453
      @analove9453 2 місяці тому

      @@TheSmokey1523recently tryed it its so good

  • @Yezebnesh_Maharat
    @Yezebnesh_Maharat 2 місяці тому +2

    Hey, Demi and everyone.

  • @esperancasabater3398
    @esperancasabater3398 2 місяці тому +1

    Hi Demi, my favorite fragances are fresh and clean. Will try some of those. Thanks ❤

  • @scentsual7752
    @scentsual7752 2 місяці тому +2

    your next video should be “all the fragrances I recommended 5 years ago that all the TikTok Frag reviewers piggybacked off me & took credit for” 😂 I’m so petty

  • @KK-00808
    @KK-00808 2 місяці тому +1

    Have you smelled Tonka Hysteria from D’Orsay? Would love to know what your thoughts are about this fragrance. Love your videos and have purchased Althair based on your recommendation. ❤

    • @demirawling
      @demirawling  2 місяці тому +2

      Ooo yes!!! Tonka Hysteria is incredible. My second fave from the extraits 🤌🏼♥️

  • @SCENTsess
    @SCENTsess 2 місяці тому +1

    demi what can you say about the creed queen of silk? Need your opinion as im having doubts in buying it.

    • @demirawling
      @demirawling  2 місяці тому +1

      I’m not a fan of it personally but if you love it then my opinion shouldn’t matter 🥰♥️

    • @SCENTsess
      @SCENTsess 2 місяці тому

      @demirawling thank you 😂 i just bought it while smelling the sample that theyve sent me. 😆

  • @dalirusia6457
    @dalirusia6457 2 місяці тому

    Yeah, I was also hearing “I heard you’re doing really well” 😂

  • @alyshaevans1133
    @alyshaevans1133 2 місяці тому

    Hi Demi,
    I’m going to Dubai in April and would LOVE some perfume reccomendations!

  • @ditsygirl5409
    @ditsygirl5409 2 місяці тому

    I think I’m the only one who hates Orpheon. But the rest like Imagination, 1957 and tres chere I adore so much!

  • @pepemau5
    @pepemau5 2 місяці тому +3

    LV Imagination and LV Symphony, both unisex, both leaning to each side of sex, both masterpieces, both musthave, both not 11/10 both are 20/10, out of this world

  • @GinaAngels
    @GinaAngels 2 місяці тому +2

    Demi which Diptique fragrance is more year round friendly

    • @demirawling
      @demirawling  2 місяці тому +2

      I’d say Orpheon, L’eau Papier, Eau de Sens, Eau Rose ❤

    • @GinaAngels
      @GinaAngels 2 місяці тому +1

      @ thank you so much

  • @MadameMurri
    @MadameMurri 2 місяці тому

    And what is your opinion about Mizensir's Poudre d'or ?