Thibs will never change his ways, and he will never win because of it. You can't run your players ragged all year and expect them to have lots of gas in the tank for the playoffs.
@@marquesemitchell365 It's not about the millions. The fact is that he's is wearing down his players bodies way too early in the season. Thibs acting like this is a 40 yard dash when it's a whole marathon. No other team is even close to the amount of minutes this starting 5 is playing.
@ it is about it ! Its their profession its their job being in th best shape ready & available every nite 2 compete ! So now yall want thibs 2 load manage ??? Which one is it ?? Th more u play th more u build stamina not lose it lol btw players wanna play not sit
@BrutusJrThe3rd oh 100%!! The fact that they've gotten no regular burn is ridiculous. Specifically, Huk and Pacome, who both contributed to a win against BKN early in the season.
Thank you KG and Paul for speaking truth to power! Thibs used his bench last night and expanded to a 9-man rotation. You may have just saved the Knicks season (and knees).
ESPN SHOULD ADD PAUL PIERCE AND KG TO THEIR BASKETBALL COVERAGE, STEPHEN A SMITH HAS NO PRACTICAL EXPERIENCE TO UNDERSTAND THIS AND THOSE WNBA PLAYERS LNOW NOTHING ABOUT AND 82 GAME GRIND
The Boston Celtics are Going through The Same Thing. Their Defensive Intensity has Dropped, Their Legs are Tired and you see it in Their 3Pt Shooting and They are Mentally-Fatigued, as The Senseless Turnovers keep Piling Up.
Exactly but this is the non thinking man's go to criticism of Thibs. They said the SAME EXACT thing last year when the Knicks didn't have a single guy in the top 10 in MPG. They still had injuries in the playoffs cause injuries happen. Also he's said himself that the game isn't the only place you can manage minutes.
He was bound to get hurt.. he had a terrible diet filled with sugar, which led to constant inflammation. His body was fragile and very vulnerable to injury.
Great video. I'm about to copy/paste this on my Knicks channels. I've been saying this, and KAT had an issue with this in Minnesota. All the Knicks podcasts are saying that the Knicks just don't have a bench. The Knicks have a good bench it's just that Thibs doesn't want to use them because most of them are young.
I' m a Knick's fan, Kevin Garnet you made some great points about Thibs, He's my coach and I stand by him ,but you make excellent points , the team looked tired last couple of games , except for Hart he's from another planet. Pierce who I don' t agree with most of the time when he talks about the Knicks(like He didn't know who mitch Robinson was on the Knicks)He made a few good comments. Starting five does need some rest 'and there are some players( Knicks have Rookies) showing some serious skills if hr let's them play more in game. Example', Knicks where blowing out a team out west by 30 and didn't sub the starters out until 3mins left in the game. I'm at the garden and the crowd has to chant let players in the game like Tyler Kolek and a real Jewel a player name Ariel Hukporti who 7 foot tall blocks shots like Mitch and make people think twice about going down the lane for lay up . one game he had 3 block shots in 9 mins but Thibs is not playing him.I love Perious but he's 6 foot 7 with heart but he won't play back up center if Ariel played. I scratch my head on that one ! anyway GO KNICKS
Though I’ve disagree with both of you. You’re 110% correct. Problem is guys like Hart who get off on being an iron man. However fans notice to do it He coasts a lot. And come 4th quarter they have nothing else.
You think Thibs would have learned after D Rose. The Bulls had the #1 spot locked up with 2 weeks left before the playoffs and SNAP, there goes D Rose ACL. All because Thibs didn’t rest him.
That had NOTHING to do with the coach. STOP THE LIE. And I'm saying that respectfully because that is a lie. Rose, getting injured was not due to that coach or the minutes. He's already gone on record and said it. Plus if it did, why would he play for this coach wherever he's gone if he's hurt him SO badly?!
This is not even the biggest issue. The biggest issue is how Leon Rose & Thibs constructed this roster with 1 shot creator in Brunson. The Knicks have minimal shot creation, limited athleticism on the perimeter & limited depth. The Knicks are gonna be screwed in the playoffs when the game slows down. You can’t compete versus a team like Boston who can operate in the halfcourt with 4-5 guys on the ball who can get their own & create for their teammates. Depth is a big issue too bc other teams can also stagger lineups with more weapons than NY can put on the floor and the obvious of being tired.
The Knicks don’t even practice, so this narrative is tired. I agree, Thibs can be rigid with his rotations, but the truth is, this team lacks much-needed depth as current constructed. Grimes, Randle, Donte, and IHart in exchange for KAT and Bridges leaves us thin especially with Mitch still unavailable. We’re worse defensively also, and with Bridges being an unreliable 3rd option, we can’t just outscore opponents. Unlike the casuals, I’ve watched games where Thibs played the bench, and they were completely incapable of generating any offense, so what should he do? Continue to play them and watch leads evaporate. The front office needs to do its job and put together a roster that the coach feels confident in.
It’s going to be the same situation like last year in The Playoffs! They’re going to have 6-7 players available and they’re more than likely going to be tired and injured once May comes around
You realize that had nothing to do with minutes, right? That injuries do happen regardless of the team or the coach. The fact that these injuries happened were not even remotely due to minutes
As a Knick fan I agree... And those two have talked alot about how practices are back in the day and they know about intense basketball. They are not appologists for the new game at all-- but they are stating facts... THIS IS NOT 1990's or early 2000's!!!!! THIS IS A FAST PACED GAME! Not only that- one thing not mentioned-- is all those minutes-- equals exposure to injury!!!!! -- why in gods name are starters on the court when the team is either up 20 or down 20? There have been some situations this year when the players hurt themselves and have no business being on the court. Thank god it hasn't been serious. Starters IMO as a Knick fan who watches them EVERY GAME- is that most if not all of them are playing hurt. Brunson is a game away from pulling his calf- he's playing with a calf issue and shoulder issue... KAT will be playing with bone chip in his thumb, and also back and jumpers knee issue... OG is NOT the same player, something is wrong and nobody knows what it is-- I think he's burned out but I think it's more. Bridges is a mutant- never missed a game since high school- but damn I think he has hip issue. They rushed Deuce back, he's dealing with hamstring. Hart, who knows- he's always a lightning bolt for us- thank god for him! But the bench isn't bad at all. They need time!! This is bull man.. I think All Star game will help rest some guys. I Agree with Big Ticket and Truth.
We don't have any bench at the moment so no ot many alternatives. We have like a 3 yr window with this team. Once we add a few reserves we'll be okay. We're only like 2 games behind the reigning champs and 3rd overall in the east.
They won't be limping into the playoffs this year. And that's a full-blown fact. They're actually a lot healthier than they were last year, which is another fact. I love how everybody likes to complain about minutes but seems to forget how these players are PAID to PLAY. Some of them don't play even remotely many games and sit often. Everyone wants to preach injuries yet every team has a player or players that can get injured regardless of minutes. But sunshine still wants to throw shade at the coach as often as can be
A team that’s 5 deep will never beat a team that’s 8 deep. Your bench should be almost as good as your starters or just move some starters to the bench & commit to not over playing them.
I never thought I'd see the day, when the two people who when I see their face represent the team I hate most in all of sports would say something about the Knicks and I'd agree with them completely. This is a sad day.
How do they make a trade? The reason the Wolves dumped KAT is becsuse his contract sucks in the new CBA. The Knicks are locked in on this squad for the next 3 years at least, unless they trade one of their starters. After that, players like OG and Mikal are going to leave for a bag that NY can't give them.
no he isn't a great coach....a great coach can recognize the he/she isn't always right, a great coach would know that you CANNOT, CANNOT play players 40 plus minuets and expect them to not be leg and mind weary at the end of games........ so don't give me that contradictory bullshit, how you gonna say he a great coach but in the same breath you say he's stubborn and stuck in his ways.........you running ur players into the ground how does that equate to a great coach????? MAKE IT MAKE SENSE
@heisenberg2966 have you noticed how liberal they are resting the main guys for minor injuries since the beginning. Championship teams have a switch man, they're playing the long game and they're a lock for the 2 or 3 seed. Going .500 midseason isnt really a big deal. Not even a boston fan btw.
@ This Celtic Team( My Team ), is not a Team that Plays Well when They are NOT The Top Seed. They Adopt a “ Light-Switch “ Mentality, and They Don’t have The Mental Toughness to “Turn it On”.
KG AND PIERCE GIVING " 360 DEGREES OF NBA TRUTH, STRAIGHT WITH NO CHASER " STEPHEN A SMITH CAN'T GIVE YOU THAT BECAISE HE NEVR PLAYED BASKETBALL... IN HIGH SCHOOL, COLLEGE OR THE NBA
If gregg popovich Phil Jackson or Erik spoelstra would have been the coach in Chicago when rose was in his prime they probably would have two or three championships but they had thibs aka mr minutes😂😂 and now we have him😮
The problem is Thibs! He has to go! Robinsuck returning will not make a difference. It's the coach! Cleveland replaced their coach. The team's roster remained the same. They're better. The Kings replaced their coach. The team's roster remained the same. They're better. The Knicks replace Thibs, perhaps with Rick Brunson, and their fortunes will change. Thibs is in his 14th season as a coach. He hasn't won one championship. He hasn't even been to a division championship. The Knicks have a bench. They don't have a coach. Garnett nailed it!
Thibs will never change his ways, and he will never win because of it. You can't run your players ragged all year and expect them to have lots of gas in the tank for the playoffs.
Facts
Facts
They get paid millions knock it off wit this goofy ass narrative !
@@marquesemitchell365 It's not about the millions. The fact is that he's is wearing down his players bodies way too early in the season. Thibs acting like this is a 40 yard dash when it's a whole marathon. No other team is even close to the amount of minutes this starting 5 is playing.
@ it is about it ! Its their profession its their job being in th best shape ready & available every nite 2 compete ! So now yall want thibs 2 load manage ??? Which one is it ?? Th more u play th more u build stamina not lose it lol btw players wanna play not sit
First time pierce gave a honest opinion without hating
Nah first time you listened to him talk. You kids think everyone is like you and hates Paul lmao stfu
Knicks fan here, they right. No championship team played their starting 5 all post season. We have a decent bench too not being utilized.
I don't think the bench is decent. Regardless, they still should be utilized and developed.
@ Knicks suck
@@collider12shut up hater
@@phamawathey’re decent enough to play 5-10 mins at least.
@BrutusJrThe3rd oh 100%!! The fact that they've gotten no regular burn is ridiculous. Specifically, Huk and Pacome, who both contributed to a win against BKN early in the season.
Thank you KG and Paul for speaking truth to power! Thibs used his bench last night and expanded to a 9-man rotation. You may have just saved the Knicks season (and knees).
ESPN SHOULD ADD PAUL PIERCE AND KG TO THEIR BASKETBALL COVERAGE, STEPHEN A SMITH HAS NO PRACTICAL EXPERIENCE TO UNDERSTAND THIS AND THOSE WNBA PLAYERS LNOW NOTHING ABOUT AND 82 GAME GRIND
Smith had beef with the truth since 2008. Espn gonna lean towards what Smith says
KG's Thibs impersonation 10/10 🤣🤣🤣🤣
The Boston Celtics are Going through The Same Thing. Their Defensive Intensity has Dropped, Their Legs are Tired and you see it in Their 3Pt Shooting and They are Mentally-Fatigued, as The Senseless Turnovers keep Piling Up.
Exactly but this is the non thinking man's go to criticism of Thibs. They said the SAME EXACT thing last year when the Knicks didn't have a single guy in the top 10 in MPG. They still had injuries in the playoffs cause injuries happen. Also he's said himself that the game isn't the only place you can manage minutes.
Olympics
They don’t train properly
Where’s the rest of this convo? Need the full pod.
I’ll never forgive tibbs for what he did to D.Rose 😤
This is what coach Tibs does he runs his players into the ground case in point with Derrick Rose. 🤷
Rose was injured. It wasn't an endurance injury. Smh.
He was bound to get hurt.. he had a terrible diet filled with sugar, which led to constant inflammation. His body was fragile and very vulnerable to injury.
And Noah
Trade the COACH!!!
Fire the coach! He will never change...
Great video. I'm about to copy/paste this on my Knicks channels. I've been saying this, and KAT had an issue with this in Minnesota.
All the Knicks podcasts are saying that the Knicks just don't have a bench.
The Knicks have a good bench it's just that Thibs doesn't want to use them because most of them are young.
Exactly!!!
I' m a Knick's fan, Kevin Garnet you made some great points about Thibs, He's my coach and I stand by him ,but you make excellent points , the team looked tired last couple of games , except for Hart he's from another planet. Pierce who I don' t agree with most of the time when he talks about the Knicks(like He didn't know who mitch Robinson was on the Knicks)He made a few good comments. Starting five does need some rest 'and there are some players( Knicks have Rookies) showing some serious skills if hr let's them play more in game. Example', Knicks where blowing out a team out west by 30 and didn't sub the starters out until 3mins left in the game. I'm at the garden and the crowd has to chant let players in the game like Tyler Kolek and a real Jewel a player name Ariel Hukporti who 7 foot tall blocks shots like Mitch and make people think twice about going down the lane for lay up . one game he had 3 block shots in 9 mins but Thibs is not playing him.I love Perious but he's 6 foot 7 with heart but he won't play back up center if Ariel played. I scratch my head on that one ! anyway GO KNICKS
Though I’ve disagree with both of you. You’re 110% correct. Problem is guys like Hart who get off on being an iron man. However fans notice to do it He coasts a lot. And come 4th quarter they have nothing else.
You think Thibs would have learned after D Rose. The Bulls had the #1 spot locked up with 2 weeks left before the playoffs and SNAP, there goes D Rose ACL. All because Thibs didn’t rest him.
That had NOTHING to do with the coach. STOP THE LIE. And I'm saying that respectfully because that is a lie.
Rose, getting injured was not due to that coach or the minutes. He's already gone on record and said it. Plus if it did, why would he play for this coach wherever he's gone if he's hurt him SO badly?!
Gave all that money to OG and now they stuck
This is not even the biggest issue. The biggest issue is how Leon Rose & Thibs constructed this roster with 1 shot creator in Brunson. The Knicks have minimal shot creation, limited athleticism on the perimeter & limited depth. The Knicks are gonna be screwed in the playoffs when the game slows down. You can’t compete versus a team like Boston who can operate in the halfcourt with 4-5 guys on the ball who can get their own & create for their teammates. Depth is a big issue too bc other teams can also stagger lineups with more weapons than NY can put on the floor and the obvious of being tired.
The Knicks don’t even practice, so this narrative is tired. I agree, Thibs can be rigid with his rotations, but the truth is, this team lacks much-needed depth as current constructed. Grimes, Randle, Donte, and IHart in exchange for KAT and Bridges leaves us thin especially with Mitch still unavailable. We’re worse defensively also, and with Bridges being an unreliable 3rd option, we can’t just outscore opponents. Unlike the casuals, I’ve watched games where Thibs played the bench, and they were completely incapable of generating any offense, so what should he do? Continue to play them and watch leads evaporate. The front office needs to do its job and put together a roster that the coach feels confident in.
Can was goin off last game. .played 4 minutes in the second half .. explain that Mr know-it-all
They don’t train properly during the off season and they don’t train at all during the season
@@mannyneva1760 How should these professional athletes train?
@ refer to Tim Grover..that’s how they don’t work today they go half speed don’t train their endurance and it shows in their body fat index
It’s going to be the same situation like last year in The Playoffs! They’re going to have 6-7 players available and they’re more than likely going to be tired and injured once May comes around
You realize that had nothing to do with minutes, right?
That injuries do happen regardless of the team or the coach. The fact that these injuries happened were not even remotely due to minutes
As a Knick fan I agree... And those two have talked alot about how practices are back in the day and they know about intense basketball. They are not appologists for the new game at all-- but they are stating facts... THIS IS NOT 1990's or early 2000's!!!!! THIS IS A FAST PACED GAME!
Not only that- one thing not mentioned-- is all those minutes-- equals exposure to injury!!!!! -- why in gods name are starters on the court when the team is either up 20 or down 20? There have been some situations this year when the players hurt themselves and have no business being on the court. Thank god it hasn't been serious. Starters IMO as a Knick fan who watches them EVERY GAME- is that most if not all of them are playing hurt. Brunson is a game away from pulling his calf- he's playing with a calf issue and shoulder issue... KAT will be playing with bone chip in his thumb, and also back and jumpers knee issue... OG is NOT the same player, something is wrong and nobody knows what it is-- I think he's burned out but I think it's more. Bridges is a mutant- never missed a game since high school- but damn I think he has hip issue. They rushed Deuce back, he's dealing with hamstring. Hart, who knows- he's always a lightning bolt for us- thank god for him!
But the bench isn't bad at all. They need time!! This is bull man.. I think All Star game will help rest some guys. I Agree with Big Ticket and Truth.
It’s not fast paced like you think, the problem is they don’t train properly. Body fat index says it all..Brunson is about 5-10 pounds too heavy
YALL WAS RIGHT
We don't have any bench at the moment so no ot many alternatives. We have like a 3 yr window with this team. Once we add a few reserves we'll be okay. We're only like 2 games behind the reigning champs and 3rd overall in the east.
I agree they are tired. Knicks need a bench. That is my problem with Tibs. Smdh
We don’t got sharp shooters and that was missing last year in the playoffs. Also yeah we limped into the playoffs last year and I can see that again…
They won't be limping into the playoffs this year. And that's a full-blown fact. They're actually a lot healthier than they were last year, which is another fact.
I love how everybody likes to complain about minutes but seems to forget how these players are PAID to PLAY. Some of them don't play even remotely many games and sit often.
Everyone wants to preach injuries yet every team has a player or players that can get injured regardless of minutes. But sunshine still wants to throw shade at the coach as often as can be
I hope he this goes viral!!;!!!
The playoffs last year they were dropping like flies. We would have beat Indiana.
A team that’s 5 deep will never beat a team that’s 8 deep. Your bench should be almost as good as your starters or just move some starters to the bench & commit to not over playing them.
I never thought I'd see the day, when the two people who when I see their face represent the team I hate most in all of sports would say something about the Knicks and I'd agree with them completely. This is a sad day.
All these mins for starters , NEVER WORK. EVER
Knicks is the only team that doesn’t have a bench and the coaches job is to win games tough position for any coach
They do have a bench. Coach is just too stubborn and prideful to use it.
Thibs be tryna' fight his detractors thru his players vicariously and it never ends well ( for his tenure or their health longevity wise )
If the Knicks could have kept donte divinci with this roster. It could have worked 🍿🔥
Facts
How do they make a trade? The reason the Wolves dumped KAT is becsuse his contract sucks in the new CBA. The Knicks are locked in on this squad for the next 3 years at least, unless they trade one of their starters. After that, players like OG and Mikal are going to leave for a bag that NY can't give them.
We will never advance to the conference finals if we keep him as our coach
That new upload as KG said or data was false! Even Adam silver said load management and watching minutes led to more injuries.
We here a bench
Thibs loves to run his guys into the ground
Bruson taking a play cut looks pretty stupid now, huh? If you don’t get the bag or the ring, what are you even doing?
I'm still wondering when James Dolan or one of his assistant coaches will pull him to the side and tell him these guys are playing to many minutes
Never
Look at their bodies..carrying too much body fat means they don’t train their cardio properly
no he isn't a great coach....a great coach can recognize the he/she isn't always right, a great coach would know that you CANNOT, CANNOT play players 40 plus minuets and expect them to not be leg and mind weary at the end of games........ so don't give me that contradictory bullshit, how you gonna say he a great coach but in the same breath you say he's stubborn and stuck in his ways.........you running ur players into the ground how does that equate to a great coach????? MAKE IT MAKE SENSE
Knicks have a bench but thibs don't use them
Father's off the court..
Yup, CLE and BOS can go 9 when needed and they do.
Boston is Tired too.
@heisenberg2966 nah boston is coasting bro
@ Boston is 7-7 in their last 14 Games; How is that “ Coasting “?
@heisenberg2966 have you noticed how liberal they are resting the main guys for minor injuries since the beginning. Championship teams have a switch man, they're playing the long game and they're a lock for the 2 or 3 seed. Going .500 midseason isnt really a big deal. Not even a boston fan btw.
@ This Celtic Team( My Team ), is not a Team that Plays Well when They are NOT The Top Seed. They Adopt a “ Light-Switch “ Mentality, and They Don’t have The Mental Toughness to “Turn it On”.
KG AND PIERCE GIVING " 360 DEGREES OF NBA TRUTH, STRAIGHT WITH NO CHASER " STEPHEN A SMITH CAN'T GIVE YOU THAT BECAISE HE NEVR PLAYED BASKETBALL... IN HIGH SCHOOL, COLLEGE OR THE NBA
I’m a Knick fan & I can’t stand Thibs because of this. He ruined D Rose & didn’t learn shi
If gregg popovich Phil Jackson or Erik spoelstra would have been the coach in Chicago when rose was in his prime they probably would have two or three championships but they had thibs aka mr minutes😂😂 and now we have him😮
they simply don’t have a good bench
The problem is Thibs! He has to go! Robinsuck returning will not make a difference. It's the coach! Cleveland replaced their coach. The team's roster remained the same. They're better. The Kings replaced their coach. The team's roster remained the same. They're better. The Knicks replace Thibs, perhaps with Rick Brunson, and their fortunes will change. Thibs is in his 14th season as a coach. He hasn't won one championship. He hasn't even been to a division championship. The Knicks have a bench. They don't have a coach. Garnett nailed it!
I AM SATOSHI! Is KG a bitcoiner! Wow!
Starters across the league, especially stars all play significant minutes.. with that said no one averages 40 minutes per game.
When you are in your 20's there is no such thing as tired
It is with Thibs. He will Run a Baby into The Ground.
There is always such a thing. Thibs' teams been one of the worst in the 4th quarter since 2017 with Minnesota
16 minutes is 4 minutes a quarter. Wat ticcets talking bout.
Rs
Why does Paul keep making click bait videos talking down on the Knicks 😅
Paul pierce should never ever talk about the Knicks he's been a hater for over 20 years.. Stop not 1 Knicks fan cares what you say...
They getting millions to play a child game they be ok 😂