Amazing Old School CARPENTRY/FRAMING Tip & Trick That Is ON ANOTHER LEVEL!
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- Опубліковано 11 жов 2024
- Amazing Old School CARPENTRY/FRAMING Tip & Trick That Is ON ANOTHER LEVEL! In this video we show the #verycoolgang an amazing old school carpentry and framing tip that uses a tool that some people will not know about. This carpenter trick/tip is on another level because it will help you increase your skills and knowledge. Let us know in the comments section below if you knew about this amazing old school carpentry trick already or if this framing tip was new too you.
As a bricklayer I firmly believe in the value of the plumb bob
Yep, the ol plumb bob. First learned with that back in the 90's just before lasers became more affordable. Thanks for the old school cool content Vince and God bless! 😁👍✌️
I guess I'm showing my age. When I started my company in 1982 we had a Plumb Bob as our logo lol and still today the same logo. Thanks for the video Vince you're the man. I always use a spirit level to hang doors but Plumb Bob always for top plate bottom plates as you demonstrated and for footing foundation marks on concrete and batter boards
Thanks Chip, we appreciate it!
I always use a level and a plumb Bob for setting door frames. "A plumb Bob never lies"
Even though lasers and levels have come a long way they can easily get knocked out of whack. I use a laser when I'm setting a bunch of frames in a row (hallway) to align the heads but I still check each one with a 2' level.
Call me old school but most of time my doors don't need to be adjusted.
Everyone had their own way this is mine I'm a young old schooler lol.
I’m not a carpenter, but a newer diy gal. I’ve never heard of a plumbob before. Pretty cool. I strongly believe that sometimes the old school ways or the simplest ways are the best. Thanks for sharing!
Always have a plumb bob handy, its quicker than getting the laser out the box, and of course a chalk line, which work on the same principle, are invaluable outdoors in sunlight. Plus, you can run a very long line. Handy bit of kit.
Vince,
This tool has been around longer then that. The Egyptians used this same tool to built the pyramids, LOL...
He knows, all he was saying is if you where born after 1990 “you may not know it exists”
I think every carpenter old or new should have a plum bob! Ppl they are at Lowe’s or HD for like $10-15. Smash that like button. Hope everyone in the gang is healthy and staying safe! Thanks for the continuing videos @VCG construction!! # JUST SAYING lol!
Wow great tips. I have never really used a plumb bob. I know I tried it a couple times when I was really young. My grandfather used one all the time. Great video and tips more needs to come
Don’t hang/install doors with a plum bob anymore, but it’s how I was taught, back in the day. I much rather use my levels & lasers, since they’re faster.....but that doesn’t mean I don’t carry one; for those situations when ya need it(can do quite a few tasks with a speed square & plum bob)😉
Cheers🤙🏼
Thanks Aepek!
Aepek how’s everything going bro?
I have use and love the DeWalt green 3 beam laser. It's only fallacy is not having the micro adjusting knobs other lasers have.
Cant lie. Born in 95 and didnt know what it was. I was brought up with the level. Great demonstartion Vince!!
Thanks Tyler!
Im a field engineer, so I always have my plumb bob on me. Love learning new uses for it!
I’m sorry but if u don’t know about these “tricks” regardless of age... u aren’t a carpenter
Not sure what they are teaching the young guys these days. Im sure most of them never heard of a plumb bob.you cant blame an apprentice if their teacher only uae them as cheap labour
Great tip. I'm one of those old guys(50) and learned that from my Dad and Grandpa back when I was, maybe 6 years old when I "helped" build on the extension to our house. We only had 1 level between both so it was easier to use the Plum bob and a brad nail to hang it with, and a lot easier to carry around than that 3 foot level back then.
Found two plumb bobs at walmart a couple of months back on clearance when they cleared out everything to make room for hart. $1.50 each.
I knew how a plum bob worked, but never actually used one! Thanx for the vid VCG!
Viedo was great ....I like lurning how to do the old ways as mutch as the new and yes I do own 3plumb Bob's....thanks again for doing all the great viedos.
Here's something my uncle showed me recently, if you don't have a plumb bob but you have an old chalk box like all aluminum from 20+ years ago you can use it as a makeshift plumb bob.
Noe Buentello most chalk boxes have a point for that reason just FYI it’s awesome how we all share knowledge tho
You could use a rock for a plumb on if you measure to the string
Plumb Bobs are great...and never need calibrating! ...been around for thousands of years and always will point to the center of the earth : ) I love lasers and often use my three-plane, green laser Bosch. However, when working in bright light conditions or uneven ground or transferring an exact corner from top to bottom...there are times when it is just easier to be old school : )
Again, I'm not a builder, I'm a communications guy, but the few times I have built walls, I did the ceiling first, and then used a plumb bob to set the bottom plate. Never did I consider putting the bottom in first and then trying to line up the top. Going forward, should I need to build a wall, I will still start at the ceiling because I can't see how starting at the floor make it easier, only harder.
The first time I was every part of building a wall, it was with my dad and someone else at the building we had just bought for the family business. We built the wall laying and the floor and then stood it up.
Never tried Vince but I have used one and I have the same one you used in the video. Be safe
Great. Very Informative. Thank You for taking the time to make this video.
Glad it was helpful!
I have used them in the past, they certainly have their time and place even in 2020. That being said, if I'm in the shop il grab my digital level first, and if I'm in the field il bring a few spirit levels that I don't mind taking a fall.
Another good video presentation! Keep up the good job!👍🧰👍😍
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Great video Vince I been using plum bobs for years
As a Glazier I still carry a couple plumb bobs in my box 👍 just in case my laser takes a dump. Nice video VCG
i got mine plum bob back when they made them out of brass and i still use it today
A good one is still brass. They settle much faster and are non magnetic that can be important some times.
Worked construction in the 1970s. Churches, homes, and military facilities all had additions that relied on plumb bobs.
I use plumb bobs for your first example, I never knew there are laser levels that did that, but I've always used levels for door jams
If you’re goin old school, do a vid on water levels. I’ve been using a plumb bob for 45 years. I have a 12oz,16oz,24oz and a 32oz for structural steel framing.
I'm go to guy with the laser, but the plumb bob is always in my back pocket
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I’ll use a level for knockdown frame. But for welded frames when tucking the dry wall behind the frame it’s plum bob.
I never seen one of those plumb bob! Good video 😊
I still use both depending on the job site and I'm only 30
I use a plumb bob when I’m framing long walls. And my laser as well. But on doors definitely a level!!
Yes I use one, but I am a vintage quality professional Carpenter, I started doing carpentry at 5 years ago in my father's workshop, back in 1965, and worked as a Carpenter on site and as a Foreman running site's, and I have worked in a workshop making Furniture too, so using a plumb Bob is normal for me , but my two Sons are qualified professional Carpenter's too, and wouldn't know what a plumb Bob is lol best wishes from England .
Water levels were the go-to in the tile trade before the Lazer levels. The Lazer is the game changer for layout.
Water levels can go around corners and are 100 percent accurate 100 feet away.
I was still using a plumb bob in 2005, but by then i only used them to set out windows on 2nd level to line them up with 1st level windows. Ive been using stabila levels for my doors for over 20 years. Actually i set the hinge side and set lock side to the door after iver hung it. We dont commonly use pre hung doors as they are usually garbage construction.
That's the way I do it,I've seen it done alot of ways,but I set the hinge side close the door and set the rest by eye
I've been a Carpenter for 40 year's ( I'm retired now ) but I was tought using a plum Bob to hang doors... now I use a Stabila magnetic leval.
I haven’t used anything but the plumb! Semper Fi
A 22 oz plumb bob works the best ,with a braided string , the green lasers a e easier to see in bright sunlight , when your framing in a 50 or more story building. Due to the curve of the earth a level and plum Bob can be off ,the higher you go the more it's off , the surveyors puts bench marks on the steel framing , all measurements are taken off their mark , I did a building in NYC 1500 feet to the Roof , from the foundation to the roof it can be off 10 plus degrees
I'm 27 and I've had a plumb bob for years. I'm a 1994 baby - so contrary to his original comment, I not only have heard of a plumb bob, I have one! Only problem, is that I don't know where it is currently, so I was hoping for another trick or tip. I don't have any string or rope that I could use to hang something else either, or I would make a makeshift plumb bob. Dang. Guess I'm gonna have to go digging...
the batteries died in my lazer so i did this with my chalk box. my apprentice couldn't believe it i had to explain thats why they have a point on the other end
And there are no batteries to replace.
@@erickeith6591 that’s true, of the thousands of times I’ve used a chalk box, I never once thought people would be using them as plumb bob! Probably wouldn’t use it if I were setting refinished prenung doors however, you’d be spending just as much time cleaning all the chalk off the doors/jambs, assuming the chalk was removable chalk..
Love from India brother
Good old plum Bob to the rescue
You can also use your laser the same way as the plum Bob . And also the water line . I am an old timer and I use a laser . Done it all ways
Chalk boxes work as plumb bobs too. not as accurate as a dedicated bob, because the chalk box doesn't come to a sharp point, but is still good.
Good energy
Always, thanks
In thinking about it a plumbob seems like a good way if you need to transfer a line down onto the floor for whatever reason
*_ah yeah_*
You should show how to use a plumb Bob and speed square as a level. It's how I was taught to level a door header
I remember seeing an old boy drop a plumbob down the outside of 4 story building in to a bucket of water that kept it from swinging about all measurements were then taken from string
Can you show the elements of concrete form work with tie rod.
I install industrial and commercial garage doors, Ive spent 1000’s of dollars on lazer levels and spirit levels,but I always seem to fall back to my great grandfathers brass plumb bob
You can also stick your magnetic level onto a stud ....slip the stud into the bottom track or mark and then plump it up for your top track... also a speed square up top with a plump bob makes it a little faster .... with the stud one man can do it just clamp the stud in that way it stays in place get up on the baker and plumb her up....Your making me miss the old days on the job with the whole crew I only worked at a few companies so after a few years you would have a real commandery ....Keep up the great videos Vince Love emmm....
Can't beat gravity! That said, both a plumb bob and spirit level both rely on it. Also, I hadn't heard it called a spirit level before. Only bubble level or just level.
I’m showing my age🤣🤣
I'm not sure they all have alcohol anymore,could be why?
I have the magnetic attachment for my bob it goes to 108’’ and works awesome
You can plumb a door pretty fast with it
Hey Vince good video! I have been seeing videos on the Little Giant King Combo ladder. If you haven't checked it out, I think it would be a great asset for the type of work you do.
Still use a plumb bob to plumb walls when framing.
Still use a plumb bob that's older than I am (53) and it's still accurate. Except in a windy location.
If it's not a firewall we usually just screw the top track right to the grid, then you use mud on wall angle as trim along the top. Once it's finished it looks just like wall angle
Good video bro , ever try a tape measure in millimeters? Should try it ! Cheers from NZ
Back in 1995, when me and my pops built our old house, I wasn't even aware of spirit levels. All levels and plumb bobs.
1995 and you haven't heard of a spirit level? I think you are confused on what a spirit level is. A spirit level is a regular level. The kind where you look at the bubble in the fluid contained in a vial. It is called a spirit level because the liquid in the vial is alcohol (called spirits, like "wine and spirits.")
@@xenonram Ah I thought it was the laser level. But yah the bubble framing levels are what we used.
It's been so long since that experience I forgot a lot, which is why I got hooked on this channel. Now moved to the Phlippines, construction is weird here, substandard at it's very best.
Loving the in field content brother! What kind of belt is that you use? I haven’t been able to find it anywhere.
No seriously though I haven’t been able to find a belt like that! My old ones getting tired!
Now that I've never seen before that's why I love watching these videos there's always something new to be learned
2001-2002 I was working for a carpenter and we hung doors like this. Last time I’ve used a plum bob though.
could some of ya'll help me. i'm trying to decide between Milwaukee or Makita, for wich brand should i go?
Wich ever one you want lol. Wont disappointed either way you go that's for sure
I’m a milwaukee guy because I do a bunch of different types of work and they have the most battery powered tools. But, if you’re strictly a carpenter, I’d probably go with Makita as they are way ahead in strictly carpentry tools like plunge cut saw/ track saws. Milwaukee will eventually come out with one but for now they have the basic carpentry stuff like miter saws and jigsaws and what not.
I still use my plumb bob regularly. Often faster than setting up the laser.
vince colin buckley here a cab driver in cork ,thats a city in ireland , really like ur channel a question for you , i want to buy a compound mitre saw ,not ur dewalt milwaukee festool,as i said im a cab driver ,which brand would u buy if u were me
What are your options?
VCG Construction we have evolution . Lumberjack, jcb , I was just wondering if you knew which is the better in the mid range price ps great channel
Still, a must-have and cheap too.
Man i still use it and I'm younger than that laser, man I even used plumbo to adjust wraping robot
I used to be on a survey crew and still have my plumb bob.
Hang the plumb line dead center and you can do both doors at the same time. There are also plumb bobs that have a magnetic base for HM frames. The other benefit is you can hang your line and plumb the jamb while installing your shims. Try doing that with a level.
How's your plum, Bob?
Sorry. Couldn't resist.
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you can also run your bottom plate take a studs and level up on each end mark and snap thats how i was thought
A plumb bob would be a very handy tool if you had to build something with only the stuff on your back like if you were in the jungle.
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Gotta have a plumb bob 👍🏻by the way what kind of tape measure u use in the video
Found it lufkin night eye that’s sweet looking
ao Bobs plumb. I Was born in 67, The first time i can rememberers a pumb bob was in the 70s.
Hey guys,
I wanted to see if it was just a coincidence that a bought a Dewalt Dw511 drill and fresh out of the box on the drill option, It started to smoke within less than a minute. Maybe it came out defective, so went for a replacement. New drill and on the first attempt, it started smoking again. I hope y'all make a video about this cause two brand new drills smoke on the first try.
I am on the ladder with the string in my hand but i cannot see where the plumb bob is pointing on the floor..any ideas please
Got to know the old school ways. U just never know when ur helper/you breaks something and in a pinch.
I never knew u can use that for doors u blew my mind
Tajima plumb rite magnetic plumb bob fast and accurate can’t beat it. Commercial carpenter for 25+ years. Young guys are trying to use lasers set frames and see way to many frames out of plumb and wonder why they can’t make the door work. Plumb bobs are a little slower than a laser but you will make up for it when you can walk up and swing the door the first time without shimming. Lasers are to fat of line to be accurate with. Way I do it is level the head, use a appropriate spreader for the bottom, and plumb bob the hinge side and done.
No. The laser thickness is just as thick as a plumb bob line, and you compensate for it in the same exact way. Lasers are more accurate than a plumb bob if you use it correctly. (Plumb bobs have errors in the hang point and errors from it needing to be held off the ground, which means you need to eyeball the line from the tip of the bob to the floor, also causing it to swing if you touch it. If you lower it to just barely touching the ground, this also introduces error.) If you don't know how to use a laser, that's operator error, not equipment error. Same goes for a plumb bob.
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>Lasers are more accurate than a plumb bob
Never. They are inherently less accurate. Lasers rely on tiny pendulum that is supposed to be very precisely aligned with a laser beam. Have ever heard about checking laser accuracy and calibration? I bet you did (or at should be). Have you ever heard about checking plumb bob accuracy and calibration? No, this is nonsense.
But. Lasers are very accurate in 99% of situations.
>bobs have errors in the hang point and errors from it needing to be held off the ground
WTF are you talking about?! The principle is exactly same as with a laser: you measure the distance to a straight vertical line at top and at bottom.
I had no idea
Bro where did you get that measuring tape??
I was born in 93, used an old school plum bob more than a laser!
Old school
I still use a plumb Bob to hang door's
wow....so VCG is a real construction company and not just a you tube channel 😂😂
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@@VCGConstruction 😂
Pls 180 or the 6g are pretty nice lasers
#1 rule of being a carpenter, is always remember to humble yourself my brother :)
I always use a Plum-bob when I’m installing power poles from the ceiling onto gondolas. To me theres nothing more accurate as lasers are dependent on the top rails of the gondolas being perfectly level. Let’s face it, not a easy thing to get or keep level.
two foot magnetic level on the head and pin the high side where she sets and shim the low side up before you drive the drive rivets in the crete; three 2 man teams set 750 doors at a casino job; use a plumb maybe once a year
Use all three
Hard to beat a plumb bob. The longer the length of line you use, the more accurate the measurement. Compared to fixed length levels.
I went to Lowes last week and asked 2 different older men that worked in tools where the plumb bobs were and neither knew what I was talking about. I'm 42, they were 60+ working at Lowes and in tools and didn't know! 🙄
A plumb bob I like to know how did they come up with that name but I still use one of those today I like the plumbob it's very inexpensive and very accurate it is a two-man operation because it likes to swing a little bit so but still I use it today
Think about it,plumb is plumb,and the thing just kind of bobs there
#Varrycoolgang
Never used a plumb bob, taught it was a silly old tool, but them old imers knew what they were at,