Soviet subway that doesn't exist

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  • Опубліковано 16 лис 2021
  • The history of the Volgograd Metrotram is truly unique. As you know, in cities with a population of more than a million people in the Soviet years, it was supposed to start the construction of the subway. At one time Volgograd did not quite reach this figure, but the city really wanted to build a metro. Then a compromise was found - to make an underground light rail line in the city center. The construction of the line was carried out according to the metro norms with the prospect of launching it on the metro train line. Today the Volgograd high-speed tram is the most important mode of transport connecting several districts of the city.
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  • @jirislavicek9954
    @jirislavicek9954 2 роки тому +37

    It's not a bad idea for smaller cities, underground tram is faster than street trams, but cheaper than metro. Similar concept was originally considered for Prague but later it was changed in favour of a regular metro.
    Always happy to see Tatra T3 trams, they will run forever. 👍

    • @loopoo2006
      @loopoo2006 2 роки тому +5

      I love Praha's Tatra's, and metro of Praha is very nice as well, stations like Mustek or Muzeum, at very deep underground, are fabulous, as well as the trains! Marian from Bucharest, Romania 🇷🇴

  • @andrewweitzman4006
    @andrewweitzman4006 2 роки тому +18

    There's just something about "chandeliers in a subway station" that makes it seem so authentically "Russian".

  • @AmbivalentMind
    @AmbivalentMind 2 роки тому +12

    They were really ahead of their time with that metrotram concept.
    It is now widely adapated in a lot of cities worldwide, as it is cheaper and more flexible to build light rail than metros, if you don't need the high capacity of a heavy rail metro.

    • @ivantrainsLIVE
      @ivantrainsLIVE  2 роки тому +7

      Agree, this concept is widely spread worldwide. However, this is the only metrotram in Russia. There are also some tram stretches in various Russian cities with an increased speed limit but they don't include underground sections.

    • @dzarkadas
      @dzarkadas 2 роки тому +1

      Toronto is building a very similar system, The Eglinton Crosstown.

  • @ub5168
    @ub5168 2 роки тому +13

    I love this channel, these videos are so genuine and about simple yet very uncommon subjects. Its very interesting

  • @greenvillehauser3792
    @greenvillehauser3792 2 роки тому +21

    Thanks for your videos! I love that you are telling the history of the stories behind the places, and breathing life into lifestyles that weren't all that long ago. I just found your channel, and am binging on your content. Spacibo bolshoe u prodolzhaite pozhaluista!

  • @ggurks
    @ggurks 2 роки тому +10

    We have the very same system in Cologne: trams that go underground in the city center but otherwise drive above ground. Just a few stations are "subway" stations. But it seems enough for a city of that size

    • @sotirzvanidjubre4109
      @sotirzvanidjubre4109 2 роки тому +1

      Belgrade too...as a matter of fact one station is 80m under ...

    • @zenshy2139
      @zenshy2139 Рік тому

      There's also one in Helsinki. I remember going in a tram under the airport and getting off at the central railway station.

  • @Reichenberg1985
    @Reichenberg1985 2 роки тому +6

    Hello. Our Czech Tatras T3. 👍🏻

  • @todlichreiter
    @todlichreiter 2 роки тому +5

    Wow! Great informative video. Also I loved the editing and the ending .
    Glorious Volgograd !
    Greetings from Greece

  • @player3prime
    @player3prime 2 роки тому +3

    This reminds me of Zurich where they started building a metro but the population declined it in a vote and now some tram routes have a few underground tram stops. The trams cross over an "X" before entering the tunnels to have the doors open on the right side when entering the station.

  • @GORGINIOUScrniExploring
    @GORGINIOUScrniExploring 2 роки тому +5

    Greetings.
    Great shots of this underground system. The baroque lights stood out the most. They do not fit on the ceiling of these stations. These 6 side lights were kind of normal to see 😀.
    Enjoy your journey and stay safe. 🚂

  • @catsup27
    @catsup27 2 роки тому +2

    They have nice chandeliers in their stations. Very fancy!

  • @robertxmugabe666
    @robertxmugabe666 2 роки тому +1

    Beautifully informative video as ever, your channel is Amazing!

  • @kookookala6251
    @kookookala6251 Рік тому

    Great videos! Be safe and keep on trucking!

  • @BengtHansves
    @BengtHansves 2 роки тому +6

    The older (?) "trams" have similarities with Tatra T3 ...

    • @ivantrainsLIVE
      @ivantrainsLIVE  2 роки тому +8

      There some T3 in the video, modernized in Moscow and sent to Volgograd in 2018. They are called MTTA.

  • @KRich408
    @KRich408 2 роки тому +10

    So much infrastructure compared to what the USA has today 🥺 we once had plenty of trains to get around city's most of it's long gone torn out, street cars are only left in a few places, if you're lucky you can still see old tracks and what's left of the pantagraph wires , a former politician in control took out a lot of rail systems in the 80s they are now trying not put back into service what they can problem is most of it's been completely torn out and turned into walking paths way to expensive to put rail back in and will anger people that want to use it for walking 🥺 the more I watch Russian YT to more I wish I lived there you have a lot not love for the things that make it great. Loved the video keep em coming..

  • @mikechudzinski6629
    @mikechudzinski6629 2 роки тому +3

    Amazing statue at end.. Wow...

  • @christianfreedom-seeker934
    @christianfreedom-seeker934 2 роки тому +1

    USA: "We need public transportation between here and here" Planner: "A bus should do just fine" RUSSIAN FEDERATION PLANNER: "Nyet! Make tram, bus and railway and electric bus between those points!"

  • @daveshongkongchinachannel
    @daveshongkongchinachannel 2 роки тому +1

    Great video and good to see something a bit different but still train related. One thing it seems nobody asked you in the comments - how did you get the footage outside the train as it was moving through the tunnels? Know who you are and what you normally get up to on freight trains, perhaps this is a dumb question but I would have thought it would be harder to do without getting caught on such a system.

  • @fahad203
    @fahad203 2 роки тому +3

    Was this city formerly known as Stalingrad?

    • @Garmoniyamirai
      @Garmoniyamirai 7 місяців тому +1

      Да, это Сталинград, Волгоград современное название города.

  • @flemmingsorensen5470
    @flemmingsorensen5470 2 роки тому +10

    Looks very good, but with amazingly few people onboard?

  • @PREPFORIT
    @PREPFORIT 2 роки тому +1

    That was an interesting subway journey.

  • @simonb6982
    @simonb6982 Рік тому

    Stuttgart has replaced its tram system with a very similar system (mainly independent tracks, bigger vehicles, but still crosses some roads)

  • @kpb96m
    @kpb96m 2 роки тому +3

    YAAAAY!! Volgograd!! I LOVE YOU!!

  • @iljaoblomov
    @iljaoblomov 2 роки тому +1

    volgograd is indeed worth visiting :)

  • @RussianPinoy
    @RussianPinoy 2 роки тому +4

    I would call a NYC subway system weird because majority of it actually runs above ground, and some underground, It has some of the ugliest stations in the world, has no adequate ventilation, very dirty and has huge rat problem. Volgograd subway is light years ahead of New York City Subway system. Because I rode both systems. And still prefer the one in Volgograd. In Volgograd subway you will not be stabbed and no one is going to push you over to your death from the platform to the tracks and you will not suffocate due to lack of ventilation in Volgograd unlike NYC subway

    • @RussianPinoy
      @RussianPinoy 2 роки тому

      The OP changed the title since I posted this lol.

    • @markvogel5872
      @markvogel5872 2 роки тому +1

      Well that system is over 100 years old so it's pretty outdated and underfunded. However it is a very dirty hot experience and also quite expensive.

  • @andreipopa5540
    @andreipopa5540 2 роки тому +2

    Koln in Germany has a similar system

  • @feltongailey8987
    @feltongailey8987 Рік тому

    Where is everybody!? I cannot see how they can afford to keep that running. It is in such good condition too. Thanks for this vid!

    • @skoppppppppka
      @skoppppppppka Рік тому +2

      These trams trams carries more passengers than any other public transport in this city. Rush hour is terrible in these trams.

  • @RoboJules
    @RoboJules 2 роки тому +1

    Reminds me of Edmonton's light rail network.

  • @markvogel5872
    @markvogel5872 2 роки тому

    Boston / Toronto / San Francisco / Philadelphia / Strasbourg all have tunnel sections for trams.

  • @sisneki2022
    @sisneki2022 2 роки тому

    same I was wondered by Madrid metro after experience just with soviet style metro... speed as a tram and no any wind in hair

  • @phatmeow7764
    @phatmeow7764 2 роки тому +2

    hi i've never taken a tram so 75 kph is high speed for trams then?

    • @skoppppppppka
      @skoppppppppka 2 роки тому

      Really high. In fact, trams rarely go over 50 km/h

  • @Badmike53
    @Badmike53 2 роки тому

    Similar to the Edmonton light Rail System, but these stations are fancier than the ones of Edmonton.👍👍

  • @ducknorris233
    @ducknorris233 2 роки тому

    The four doors all equally open a bit was odd.

  • @dancer1
    @dancer1 2 роки тому +1

    I wish America had more metros :(

  • @herosstratos
    @herosstratos 2 роки тому

    In the 70s in many cities in Western-Germany such Metro-Tram-Systems were build.

  • @noddy8607
    @noddy8607 2 роки тому

    Cool.

  • @SeverityOne
    @SeverityOne 7 місяців тому

    So what will they do if and when they eventually run a proper metro? Lower the tracks? Because the trams are low-floor trams, and there's no such thing as a low-floor metro.

  • @King_Steffon_II
    @King_Steffon_II 2 роки тому +1

    From Russia With Love

  • @abbeystump
    @abbeystump 2 роки тому +7

    Russia has a transport system to be proud of. Dam your outside the tram?Volgograd is on my list to see that statue.Thanks again for the information.

  • @lleander_
    @lleander_ 2 роки тому

    I prefer overground Tram lines but this is cool.

  • @Visalcon
    @Visalcon Рік тому

    Well, platforms height is too low for (future) subway...

  • @glazedbeachbro3926
    @glazedbeachbro3926 7 місяців тому

    The Motherland Calls

  • @glypnir
    @glypnir 2 роки тому

    I know that Pittsburgh, Pennsylvania in the US had a somewhat similar system, where the tram system got a subway section for downtown. For a while they were even operating the old tram cars, called PCC cars in the system. Now I believe they have switched to light rail cars. I know that Dallas has a light rail system which is similar, in that it has light rail which sometimes runs on the street, sometimes at ground level, sometimes elevated, with a short subway section with one station on the subway, and one in a deep cut. It has three car units, however, rather than single tram cars. And all power is overhead. Some of the tracks run on or next to heavy rail or former heavy rail rights of way. I think this approach is fairly common, especially where population density doesn't really justify a subway. It's not ideal, primarily because an accident on the road can block the tram. Before the pandemic, I rode the Dallas system fairly frequently, so I am set up to get emails for any issue, and it seems that issues with either a car accident blocking the road, or, in winter, issues with the overhead wires too, are fairly frequent.
    However, the cost of subways is very high, which probably means the energy cost and carbon footprint for construction is very high. I looked at the amount of concrete being used to build the new Paris subway system, and at least using one estimate, the concrete carbon footprint for construction is very large. A significant fraction of the annual carbon footprint for France as a whole. For the center of Paris, the density probably justifies it, but the suburbs where the new stuff is being built are not as dense, and it may not be necessary to bury it. Something like this system may be better for the planet.

  • @stokes8626
    @stokes8626 Рік тому

    Wish you had got close to the statue to give us a better idea of its immense 85m size and maybe a tour round any bullet scarred buildings that are left. One of the major Russian things you hear about in the west is the Battle of Stalingrad.

    • @ivantrainsLIVE
      @ivantrainsLIVE  Рік тому +3

      It's something that I filmed but haven't edited yet :(

  • @benolifts
    @benolifts 2 роки тому

    You forgot to surf it

  • @christianfreedom-seeker934
    @christianfreedom-seeker934 2 роки тому

    Okay I was confused until I realized that it was built in the Soviet Union and Russian Federation. 🤣😆

  • @michaelbastion
    @michaelbastion 2 роки тому

    The guy at 8:19 has a tissue stuck up his nose lol It's good to see the different transport styles in different cities. Good job

    • @PREPFORIT
      @PREPFORIT 2 роки тому

      take better meds for your A.D.D!

    • @skoppppppppka
      @skoppppppppka 2 роки тому

      Cuz his nose bleeds.

  • @pripyat.sadboi8092
    @pripyat.sadboi8092 2 роки тому +2

    1st
    10k subs on Dec im calling it
    edit, 10k this week.

  • @christianfreedom-seeker934
    @christianfreedom-seeker934 2 роки тому +1

    Old USSR: OVERBUILD EVERYTHING!!!!!!

  • @sotirzvanidjubre4109
    @sotirzvanidjubre4109 2 роки тому

    So..How its not underground? Go love your country,stop doing YT shit!